Title: Bad idea ??? integration- Indian Sub forum into South Asian sub Forum. Post by: subvolatil on June 17, 2013, 03:40:42 PM Ok from my earlier post, in the bangladesh thread i had discussed with a few members about the integration of the India forum into a South asian forum , that takes all the south asian countries under its wing, There by creating a larger community and increasing then number of members comming in .
What i am looking at is to increase the collaboration of members of different countries, and giving it a platform. I know i said, i raise my hands. but what's the harm in discussing this out . I find open dialog to be highly productive when problems needs to be solved . and right now for the Indian community the problem is the low volume of people and also low volumes of btc. opening up to a south asian nation would help tremendously. and the second thing, i also pointed out is that on the Bitcointalk, all local forums are language specific, not country . So looking at that, the India section is the only odd one out. it is not language specific ckz every one speaks English, except our own sub forum , which you all know has not taken off that well. Ahaaa .... well the beauty about problems is the solutions that come about . remember these solutions will only work when a community spirit is fostered. I am all about creating a open and friendly community. Creating, to many sub forums will only divide the bitcoin community which is not a good thing. We the few members are now in the forefront to having a cross border community, and then flood of new ideas and changes that come with it. greater collaboration and faster growth. Now if you are against reaching your hand over the border and integrate the south asian members, then i dont know how an isolationism of The indian community would help us in the long run . OK. speaking on hypothetical terms, although i feel greatly that it is possible. but.... ok back to what i was saying Hypothetically A South asian integrated group (English speaking) (May be sub-forum for national languages) Effect : Members increase , Participation on the forum increase . Ideas and solution to trade start to take place. Bitcoin trade increases (legendster you benefit from this) Mining collaboration may increase . New services start up to cater to the problems that come up .(Solutions to problems every one is talking about) We can't always go and say "our group, no one dare enter it, my country my say i don't like sharing". But, what we have to say is "au contraire". I always say, sharing is loving, and to love thy neighbor is the noblest of all attributes. I think this calls for a new thread proposing this idea. Title: Re: Bad idea ! integration. Post by: legendster on June 17, 2013, 11:49:21 PM Ok from my earlier post, in the bangladesh thread i had discussed with a few members about the integration of the India forum into a South asian forum , that takes all the south asian countries under its wing, There by creating a larger community and increasing then number of members comming in . What i am looking at is to increase the collaboration of members of different countries, and giving it a platform. I know i said, i raise my hands. but what's the harm in discussing this out . I find open dialog to be highly productive when problems needs to be solved . and right now for the Indian community the problem is the low volume of people and also low volumes of btc. opening up to a south asian nation would help tremendously. and the second thing, i also pointed out is that on the Bitcointalk, all local forums are language specific, not country . So looking at that, the India section is the only odd one out. it is not language specific ckz every one speaks English, except our own sub forum , which you all know has not taken off that well. Ahaaa .... well the beauty about problems is the solutions that come about . remember these solutions will only work when a community spirit is fostered. I am all about creating a open and friendly community. Creating, to many sub forums will only divide the bitcoin community which is not a good thing. We the few members are now in the forefront to having a cross border community, and then flood of new ideas and changes that come with it. greater collaboration and faster growth. Now if you are against reaching your hand over the border and integrate the south asian members, then i dont know how an isolationism of The indian community would help us in the long run . OK. speaking on hypothetical terms, although i feel greatly that it is possible. but.... ok back to what i was saying Hypothetically A South asian integrated group (English speaking) (May be sub-forum for national languages) Effect : Members increase , Participation on the forum increase . Ideas and solution to trade start to take place. Bitcoin trade increases (legendster you benefit from this) Mining collaboration may increase . New services start up to cater to the problems that come up .(Solutions to problems every one is talking about) We can't always go and say "our group, no one dare enter it, my country my say i don't like sharing". But, what we have to say is "au contraire". I always say, sharing is loving, and to love thy neighbor is the noblest of all attributes. I think this calls for a new thread proposing this idea. The reasons for which India isnt language specific are : 1 we cannot type our own languages on english keyboard, maybe transliterate it. 2 India has just TOO many languages, Hindi, Bengali,Tamil are not the ONLY ones so its really not possible to make a forum for a country with so many widely used languages. 3 people in India that use the internet know how to speak and read english as it is our official language and hence there is really no need for language specificity. Why an integrated forum would fail ? : Because the idea of a local forum is to enable ease of cash transfer and the possibility of meetups, which a South Asia United Forum wont be able to successfully integrate because of the obvious border issues. 90% of people using internet in India know english, but that isnt the case with people from other south asian countries. Plus lets be honest, everyone in South Asia pretty much hates Indians, its a documented fact, I know cuz I did some digging around sometime ago. On the contrary if there is a payment system that integrates all the countries in SAARC and enables easy payment to individuals for both small and large amounts, then definitely we can see some progress. I DO think this is as a good idea, i just dont see how it would work. Title: Re: Bad idea ! integration. Post by: subvolatil on June 18, 2013, 02:12:07 PM The reasons for which India isnt language specific are : 1 we cannot type our own languages on english keyboard, maybe transliterate it. 2 India has just TOO many languages, Hindi, Bengali,Tamil are not the ONLY ones so its really not possible to make a forum for a country with so many widely used languages. 3 people in India that use the internet know how to speak and read english as it is our official language and hence there is really no need for language specificity3. Why an integrated forum would fail ? : Because the idea of a local forum is to enable ease of cash transfer and the possibility of meetups, which a South Asia United Forum wont be able to successfully integrate because of the obvious border issues. 90% of people using internet in India know english, but that isnt the case with people from other south asian countries. Plus lets be honest, everyone in South Asia pretty much hates Indians, its a documented fact, I know cuz I did some digging around sometime ago. On the contrary if there is a payment system that integrates all the countries in SAARC and enables easy payment to individuals for both small and large amounts, then definitely we can see some progress. I DO think this is as a good idea, i just dont see how it would work. Rebuttal 1. yes you can type in the National language of India which is Hindi. 2 To many languages . yes but the national language being Hindi is expected from most. 3. dont know what you meant by that . but Language specific forums are there to help people speaking in that language. India having the internet users, are mainly english educated hens English being the proffered means to communicate. taking that into context the users involved in bitcoins in india is low. participation is low ,(THE MAIN PROBLEM) Why an integrated forum would NOT fail ? Quote Because the idea of a local forum is to enable ease of cash transfer and the possibility of meetups, which a South Asia United Forum wont be able to successfully integrate because of the obvious border issues. You are looking at this only through the lens off trading bitcoins for fiat. obviously this would mean problems in transaction in a particular foregin currency would become difficult. but the number of indian users would remain the same , more members from the neighboring countries would be involved. and even add to your trading profit. so no harm here. Quote 90% of people using internet in India know english, but that isnt the case with people from other south asian countries. Plus lets be honest, everyone in South Asia pretty much hates Indians, its a documented fact, I know cuz I did some digging around sometime ago. Well if you think every one from south asia hates indians then we need to be able to extend our hands and show how much of a friendly people we truly are. changing perception comes through individual act. and yes most of the south asian do speak English. Quote On the contrary if there is a payment system that integrates all the countries in SAARC and enables easy payment to individuals for both small and large amounts, then definitely we can see some progress. Again you are looking at it in the prospective of you own business , the number of Indians wont reduce for you, So your business is still safe .. Integration is to help and get help in more community participation. Quote I DO think this is as a good idea, i just dont see how it would work. How it works ? simple we integrate. What i am aiming at :- 1. Greater participation of people . 2. Giving help and getting help from neighboring country members. 3. An International collaboration, working between people cross country forming partnerships. Resulting effect:- larger community problems gives rise to newer and better solutions (tow heads are better than one) friendly ties with neighboring countries (after all a peaceful nation is a better nation ) Why Am i promoting this idea. Because Our indian community is far to small, it cannot sustain on its own . trust me it needs to be integrated and have a wider community outreach. My question to all is why would you oppose it ? and i will try to give a reasonable rebuttal to your opposition. lets talk people. |