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Title: I have been stolen 10 btc by fake scam electrum website
Post by: hlissnake on November 07, 2017, 09:33:41 AM
Hi, I have been stolen the 10 bitcoins in my electrum wallet!!
Because I have used a fake application or malware that coming from electrumdesktop.org, and I think there is another fake scam website: electrumbitcoin.org

Please be careful, or we can find out those scam website publisher.

Also, I found an interesting thing here:
I've followed the thief's transaction flow. And finally found my balance has flowed into this three address:

https://blockchain.info/address/1N52wHoVR79PMDishab2XmRHsbekCdGquK
https://blockchain.info/address/12cgpFdJViXbwHbhrA3TuW1EGnL25Zqc3P
https://blockchain.info/address/17A16QmavnUfCW11DAApiJxp7ARnxN5pGX

They are all such a huge amount bitcoins address. Is that possible that they are exchange service account?
Is there any way to ask each exchange service to verify if those addresses belong to them? with the policeman's help

Thank you very much!


Title: Re: I have been stolen 10 btc by fake scam electrum website
Post by: ufalo3 on November 07, 2017, 09:58:50 AM
My friend there is so little chance to return you money back neither with police or other methods...
We need to be super caution in cryptocurrency world...
good luck to you


Title: Re: I have been stolen 10 btc by fake scam electrum website
Post by: TheQuin on November 07, 2017, 10:11:17 AM
If you use blocktrail.com rather than blockchain.info they have a mentions tab for each address where it shows you if the address shows up in an internet search.

Of the 3 addresses you listed, the first was mentioned in this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=878727.msg21694998#msg21694998 in another scam. The other two seem to be linked to Polinex.

You could try and contact Polinex support but I wouldn't hold out much hope of a response. You could also contact your local police but the chances of them even understanding your problem let alone being able to help are again very small.

In the end we are all responsible for taking care of the security of our own Bitcoins.


Title: Re: I have been stolen 10 btc by fake scam electrum website
Post by: ejswift on November 07, 2017, 10:16:13 AM
Omg really? Its too much expensive u just waste your money but sorry for that by the way


Title: Re: I have been stolen 10 btc by fake scam electrum website
Post by: Passive Coin on November 07, 2017, 10:36:57 AM
It's always sorry to hear such stories.
10 BTC is not small sum of money, nowadays.
Browser wallets are easy-to-use ... but also vulnerable to scams, fake sites, phishing, etc.
ALWAYS CHECK URL IN BROWSER WHERE YOU HEADING!!!!!


Title: Re: I have been stolen 10 btc by fake scam electrum website
Post by: asriloni on November 07, 2017, 10:39:55 AM
You could also contact your local police but the chances of them even understanding your problem let alone being able to help are again very small.

In the end we are all responsible for taking care of the security of our own Bitcoins.

I don't think if that will work, the bitcoin is not regulated and it can't be considered as the criminal for the official institution due to the most of country just try to argue about the bitcoin as another illegal coin or investment.
I doubt if the police will take care about that, You just waste your time in there if you want to do that. And about the amount already sent to the exchange site. which the hacker already did money laundry to the OP's amount.


Title: Re: I have been stolen 10 btc by fake scam electrum website
Post by: TheQuin on November 07, 2017, 10:49:08 AM
You could also contact your local police but the chances of them even understanding your problem let alone being able to help are again very small.

In the end we are all responsible for taking care of the security of our own Bitcoins.

I don't think if that will work, the bitcoin is not regulated and it can't be considered as the criminal for the official institution due to the most of country just try to argue about the bitcoin as another illegal coin or investment.
I doubt if the police will take care about that, You just waste your time in there if you want to do that. And about the amount already sent to the exchange site. which the hacker already did money laundry to the OP's amount.

I already said that it most likely will not work. Of course it can be considered as criminal, bitcoin has value and is, therefore, an asset irrespective of any "official institution" definition. Theft of an asset is a crime in any country. The problem is only that the police will lack any means to investigate and the perpetrator will be almost impossible to track down and probably out of jurisdiction. The OP did not say where they are but if it is the US then as Polinex is registered there the chances of getting Polinex to do something are slightly improved if the police could be persuaded to approach them.


Title: Re: I have been stolen 10 btc by fake scam electrum website
Post by: hieu81 on November 07, 2017, 10:51:29 AM
You should use sites you trust, especially not to store too many BTC on a wallet, so you will be safer! There are currently many scams: BTC, ETH and Altcoin


Title: Re: I have been stolen 10 btc by fake scam electrum website
Post by: Lucius on November 07, 2017, 11:25:22 AM
Hi, I have been stolen the 10 bitcoins in my electrum wallet!!
Because I have used a fake application or malware that coming from electrumdesktop.org, and I think there is another fake scam website: electrumbitcoin.org

Please be careful, or we can find out those scam website publisher.

Also, I found an interesting thing here:
I've followed the thief's transaction flow. And finally found my balance has flowed into this three address:

https://blockchain.info/address/1N52wHoVR79PMDishab2XmRHsbekCdGquK
https://blockchain.info/address/12cgpFdJViXbwHbhrA3TuW1EGnL25Zqc3P
https://blockchain.info/address/17A16QmavnUfCW11DAApiJxp7ARnxN5pGX

They are all such a huge amount bitcoins address. Is that possible that they are exchange service account?
Is there any way to ask each exchange service to verify if those addresses belong to them? with the policeman's help

Thank you very much!

You download your Electrum wallet from fake site since the only legitimate site to download Electrum is : https://electrum.org

There are many fake sites who in this way cheating users and stealing their coins,and since you lost 10BTC I assume that their business is going great these days.Before any download of wallet things should be checked several times,any mistake can be costly paid.

You can try to report this to police since it is lot of money,they can try to find who is the owner of that site.Possibility to return your BTC is very small,but if you have the will,money and some luck there is a possibility.


Title: Re: I have been stolen 10 btc by fake scam electrum website
Post by: CherryICO on November 07, 2017, 11:53:25 AM
Quite an informative thread, thanks for sharing your experience! Hope such incidents would never repeat again!


Title: Re: I have been stolen 10 btc by fake scam electrum website
Post by: baedrill on November 07, 2017, 12:01:36 PM
Sorry man, I doubt there's anything you can do. It's good that you posted it though, as you may have saved other potential victims. Most exchanges come with warnings to make sure they're always on the correct URL, and if only people paid attention to those warnings, there wouldn't be any phishing sites.


Title: Re: I have been stolen 10 btc by fake scam electrum website
Post by: Teemotje on November 07, 2017, 12:03:35 PM
I am sorry bro. These times there are a lot of hackers and scammers trying to steal your bitcoins. Its so sad that they are doing this and hurting some people with this.

I think they are crazy in their heads they want quick money with this we need to stop this.


Title: Re: I have been stolen 10 btc by fake scam electrum website
Post by: salihno71 on November 07, 2017, 12:14:41 PM
10 BTC is a lot of money to lose, i'm sorry for your loss. There is a very little chance to get the coins back, hopefully you will succeed.


Title: Re: I have been stolen 10 btc by fake scam electrum website
Post by: Lecam on November 07, 2017, 12:17:21 PM
Hi, I have been stolen the 10 bitcoins in my electrum wallet!!
Because I have used a fake application or malware that coming from electrumdesktop.org, and I think there is another fake scam website: electrumbitcoin.org

Please be careful, or we can find out those scam website publisher.

Also, I found an interesting thing here:
I've followed the thief's transaction flow. And finally found my balance has flowed into this three address:

https://blockchain.info/address/1N52wHoVR79PMDishab2XmRHsbekCdGquK
https://blockchain.info/address/12cgpFdJViXbwHbhrA3TuW1EGnL25Zqc3P
https://blockchain.info/address/17A16QmavnUfCW11DAApiJxp7ARnxN5pGX

They are all such a huge amount bitcoins address. Is that possible that they are exchange service account?
Is there any way to ask each exchange service to verify if those addresses belong to them? with the policeman's help

Thank you very much!

 The chance is too small because bitcoin transactions are irreversable and I doubt if they are kind enough to return what they stole from you. You should just be careful when storing your bitcoin because there'a lot of fake wevsite or application.


Title: Re: I have been stolen 10 btc by fake scam electrum website
Post by: Denker on November 07, 2017, 12:19:14 PM
Hi, I have been stolen the 10 bitcoins in my electrum wallet!!
Because I have used a fake application or malware that coming from electrumdesktop.org, and I think there is another fake scam website: electrumbitcoin.org

Please be careful, or we can find out those scam website publisher.

Also, I found an interesting thing here:
I've followed the thief's transaction flow. And finally found my balance has flowed into this three address:

https://blockchain.info/address/1N52wHoVR79PMDishab2XmRHsbekCdGquK
https://blockchain.info/address/12cgpFdJViXbwHbhrA3TuW1EGnL25Zqc3P
https://blockchain.info/address/17A16QmavnUfCW11DAApiJxp7ARnxN5pGX

They are all such a huge amount bitcoins address. Is that possible that they are exchange service account?
Is there any way to ask each exchange service to verify if those addresses belong to them? with the policeman's help

Thank you very much!

Oh man!That's terrible!
That's why you always have to check twice at least if you download something from the original website.
There are many scams from several wallets out there.
However the real and original ones are easy to know and find. If you're unsure check twitter and ask. All they big wallet providers are there and have support you can ask.
Your coins are very likely gone forever!!

Advice: The more Bitcoin will be worth in the future the more you should expect hackers trying to fool and steal from!!


Title: Re: I have been stolen 10 btc by fake scam electrum website
Post by: hasmukh_rawal on November 07, 2017, 12:21:13 PM
Sorry for your loss mate but there is really nothing you could do about it. Once your coins are lost, they are gone.
You can be sending mails to every exchange service asking for information about a particular address.
They won't be responding to you at all and if they do there won't be anything you could do about it since it will involve legal documents of authority which will be difficult to job.


Title: Re: I have been stolen 10 btc by fake scam electrum website
Post by: Layonk on November 07, 2017, 12:42:14 PM
My friend there is so little chance to return you money back neither with police or other methods...
We need to be super caution in cryptocurrency world...
good luck to you

this case is very often happen so thats why sometime there is warning to use bitcoin carefully since no way to return the money if get stolen.


Title: Re: I have been stolen 10 btc by fake scam electrum website
Post by: sathvik112 on November 07, 2017, 12:52:14 PM
Thanks for the share of your experience and care on people in our bitcoin forum.
Do ensure that u set up some software to block such antivirus, Malwares etc.
Do not worry take this as an experience and play your investment nicely  like invest on some genuine website and gain some profit and remove your capital invested.
Experience makes you strong so, win it with success with a good management plan.


Title: Re: I have been stolen 10 btc by fake scam electrum website
Post by: CyberKuro on November 07, 2017, 12:59:08 PM
If you use blocktrail.com rather than blockchain.info they have a mentions tab for each address where it shows you if the address shows up in an internet search.

Of the 3 addresses you listed, the first was mentioned in this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=878727.msg21694998#msg21694998 in another scam. The other two seem to be linked to Polinex.

You could try and contact Polinex support but I wouldn't hold out much hope of a response. You could also contact your local police but the chances of them even understanding your problem let alone being able to help are again very small.

In the end we are all responsible for taking care of the security of our own Bitcoins.


Indeed, everyone should be aware of any fraudulent activity. How could you fall into a trap of "fake wallet" in the first place?
Glad to know about the fake site, and hopefully you can trace your bitcoin before it is sold even though you have small chance to get it back.
I've tried to check this fake site, but couldn't be accessed anymore.


Title: Re: I have been stolen 10 btc by fake scam electrum website
Post by: mk4 on November 07, 2017, 01:02:22 PM
Do not worry take this as an experience and play your investment nicely  like invest on some genuine website and gain some profit and remove your capital invested.

I heavily disagree with this. It's definitely not a good idea to invest your bitcoin on those so called "investment sites" or "cloud mining sites". They're always either a Ponzi scheme, or a straight up scam. You want to invest? Simply hold your bitcoin on a well-secured wallet.


Title: Re: I have been stolen 10 btc by fake scam electrum website
Post by: rahul10948 on November 07, 2017, 01:05:11 PM
I already said that it most likely will not work. Of course it can be considered as criminal, bitcoin has value and is, therefore, an asset irrespective of any "official institution" definition. Theft of an asset is a crime in any country. The problem is only that the police will lack any means to investigate and the perpetrator will be almost impossible to track down and probably out of jurisdiction. The OP did not say where they are but if it is the US then as Polinex is registered there the chances of getting Polinex to do something are slightly improved if the police could be persuaded to approach them.

agree with the above statement...its really bad what happen to you
 


Title: Re: I have been stolen 10 btc by fake scam electrum website
Post by: Phoenixpple on November 07, 2017, 01:29:56 PM
A lot of fraud websites now. I also met one today. Recently, a lot of such suspicious links, we should pay attention to, liar is really too much, a lot of immoral people.


Title: Re: I have been stolen 10 btc by fake scam electrum website
Post by: CryptoTamer on November 07, 2017, 01:34:47 PM
Hi, I have been stolen the 10 bitcoins in my electrum wallet!!
Because I have used a fake application or malware that coming from electrumdesktop.org, and I think there is another fake scam website: electrumbitcoin.org

Please be careful, or we can find out those scam website publisher.

Also, I found an interesting thing here:
I've followed the thief's transaction flow. And finally found my balance has flowed into this three address:

https://blockchain.info/address/1N52wHoVR79PMDishab2XmRHsbekCdGquK
https://blockchain.info/address/12cgpFdJViXbwHbhrA3TuW1EGnL25Zqc3P
https://blockchain.info/address/17A16QmavnUfCW11DAApiJxp7ARnxN5pGX

They are all such a huge amount bitcoins address. Is that possible that they are exchange service account?
Is there any way to ask each exchange service to verify if those addresses belong to them? with the policeman's help

Thank you very much!
I think the hacker uses an exchange service account to sell your Bitcoin, although I doubt this problem can be solved with the policeman's help, but there is no harm in trying because your losses are too much.


Title: Re: I have been stolen 10 btc by fake scam electrum website
Post by: eann014 on November 07, 2017, 01:44:35 PM
Always be careful on what we are giving the details of our account. We need to be observant especially if they are already demand on your private keys or password. Don't be so greedy so we are not going to be a victim of scammers.


Title: Re: I have been stolen 10 btc by fake scam electrum website
Post by: raysa on November 07, 2017, 01:47:38 PM
Really, wow that will be huge amount and you can buy a house with that. So So Sorry to hear that.

Please, on internet people are smart, use 2FA for safety !


Title: Re: I have been stolen 10 btc by fake scam electrum website
Post by: coin5haker on November 07, 2017, 03:20:28 PM
Thank you for sharing. Sorry for you loss, good that people read such posts and would become more careful. Keep your precious BTC secure!


Title: Re: I have been stolen 10 btc by fake scam electrum website
Post by: lionelho on November 07, 2017, 03:56:36 PM
I am sorry to hear that, my friend. But honestly this is really hard to return the money as it's crypto currency. Thank you for sharing the info so people can be more careful. Good luck to you!


Title: Re: I have been stolen 10 btc by fake scam electrum website
Post by: ardhigalau on November 07, 2017, 04:07:48 PM
I know how you feel, that's really very annoying. but this is the world of crypto, no transactions can be canceled. You should be more careful next time, because more and more hackers and scammers are lurking us.


Title: Re: I have been stolen 10 btc by fake scam electrum website
Post by: Theb on November 07, 2017, 04:08:48 PM
There is no chance of retrieving it back if it came from a Phishing site. Also seeing the addresses' total received quantity of Bitcoin is huge which is pretty unusual for being undetected us it would be flagged by now, having an address with 3 million + Bitcoins received is an insane amount to see. And may I ask how did you chance upon the fake website "electrumbitcoin.org" to let other members here serve it as a warning in the future.


Title: Re: I have been stolen 10 btc by fake scam electrum website
Post by: Koadharber on November 07, 2017, 04:35:43 PM
Hi, I have been stolen the 10 bitcoins in my electrum wallet!!
Because I have used a fake application or malware that coming from electrumdesktop.org, and I think there is another fake scam website: electrumbitcoin.org

Please be careful, or we can find out those scam website publisher.

Also, I found an interesting thing here:
I've followed the thief's transaction flow. And finally found my balance has flowed into this three address:

https://blockchain.info/address/1N52wHoVR79PMDishab2XmRHsbekCdGquK
https://blockchain.info/address/12cgpFdJViXbwHbhrA3TuW1EGnL25Zqc3P
https://blockchain.info/address/17A16QmavnUfCW11DAApiJxp7ARnxN5pGX

They are all such a huge amount bitcoins address. Is that possible that they are exchange service account?
Is there any way to ask each exchange service to verify if those addresses belong to them? with the policeman's help

Thank you very much!
Why you did able to believe on such thing? Its really obvious that site was just a scam and try to phish users by inputting their important informations to access electrum and its normal for hackers to divide those funds to complete their anonymity and tracing up would really be hard because those coins are being scattered already.Sorry for your loss mate and this thing would really serve as a learning for you.


Title: Re: I have been stolen 10 btc by fake scam electrum website
Post by: Kizaki on November 07, 2017, 04:42:08 PM
What a waste! Thats too bad man. Losing that means no other ways to get it other than the one who got it changed their mind which they will not. Thats a large amount of money. You should be cautious around all sites and even on your own computer. Computers are easily hackable and malwares are still popping out day by day. Sorry for you but I think you should just try better next time so that it will not happen again. No policemen can help as it is untraceable or rather so secured. Also, most of them don't even know what is BTC. Good luck man.


Title: Re: I have been stolen 10 btc by fake scam electrum website
Post by: KEPLER99 on November 14, 2017, 06:35:58 AM
Omg really? Its too much expensive u just waste your money but sorry for that by the way
I really hate the scammers because the bitcoin is very expensive and it is very tough to make the bitcoin use as the bitcoin value and the bitcoin price will increase more and more, it is very hard to earn the bitcoin so it good to do the hard work and to earn the bitcoin instead of the scamming and stealing the bitcoin from the other people I hope the bitcoin will be the best currency it needs to make safe now.


Title: Re: I have been stolen 10 btc by fake scam electrum website
Post by: farwellbit on November 14, 2017, 01:41:33 PM
My friend there is so little chance to return you money back neither with police or other methods...
We need to be super caution in cryptocurrency world...
good luck to you

this case is very often happen so thats why sometime there is warning to use bitcoin carefully since no way to return the money if get stolen.
Its gloomy to get such a news but unfortunately we could do nothing for your betterment, as it is mentioned again and again that be wise during trading and keep your wallet offline while making a deal so that no one can get access to it, look now how much worthy a single bitcoin is and you have lost your 10, it is hard to recover the loss but be carefull next time


Title: Re: I have been stolen 10 btc by fake scam electrum website
Post by: sjyi on January 19, 2018, 04:19:09 AM
I just happened to follow another fund flow.  The address happened to be one of the three you mentioned.


http://bitcoinwhoswho.com/blog/2017/11/29/most-frequently-reported-bitcoin-scam-addresses/

You'll see the description as "Stolen btc for faking electrum website including malware"

The address' balance was over 100k btc.