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Title: Catalyst 13.4 screwed 7970, how to sort out? Post by: kjib on June 18, 2013, 06:54:44 PM For once I decided to give my 7970 a rest & play a game which informed me that my driver was out of date so without think I just clicked the upgrade.
It seems that Catalyst 13.4 simply blew my VTX HD 7970 bios away, disabled the over clocking and screwed up the custom fan settings. Why the hell don't AMD at least offer you the option to leave this stuff alone! At this point I could still mine coins but SHA256 lost about 15% and scrypt about 50% with no ability to over clock. Even with the (now) hard wired fan setting the card ramped up the heat really quickly running 10+ degs hotter doing less. Thinking I could get around this I re-blew the bios myself but I got the wrong rom. Doh! Realising this I blew it again with what I believe to be the correct one. I also went back to Catalyst 13.1. MS After burner reports the ability to change settings on the card is now back so that's good. Now as soon as I try to get CGminer to do some mining (scrypt or SHA256) Windows 7 informs me that CGminer has crashed. One possibility is that I've semi-killed the card but I seem to be able to run Windows the same as usual, just I can't mine any more. I tried upgrading to the latest stable CGminer (3.1) and no joy. Suggestions to find the solution anyone? Title: Re: Catalyst 13.4 screwed 7970, how to sort out? Post by: LordTheron on June 18, 2013, 07:03:16 PM I had similar thing and in my case drivers reinstall or change wouldn't do anything but changed APP SDK from 2.8 to 2.6 and I could mine again :), a bit slower than usual so reinstalled 2.8 again and its back to how it was before all problems. Give it a go and see if it works for you.
Title: Re: Catalyst 13.4 screwed 7970, how to sort out? Post by: kjib on June 18, 2013, 07:53:51 PM Thanks for the suggestion about the SDK but that made no difference. :(
I did find this crash report, no idea what most of it is all about but it does refer to a module name: Quote Faulting Application Path: C:\cgminer-3.1.0-windows\cgminer.exe Problem signature Problem Event Name: APPCRASH Application Name: cgminer.exe Application Version: 0.0.0.0 Application Timestamp: 517d4469 Fault Module Name: StackHash_0a9e Fault Module Version: 0.0.0.0 Fault Module Timestamp: 00000000 Exception Code: c0000005 Exception Offset: 00000000 OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.1 Locale ID: 2057 Additional Information 1: 0a9e Additional Information 2: 0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789 Additional Information 3: 0a9e Additional Information 4: 0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789 Does that lot shed any light on the problem to anyone? :'( Any suggestions welcome... ??? Title: Re: Catalyst 13.4 screwed 7970, how to sort out? Post by: lbr on June 18, 2013, 08:03:07 PM give me 2 hours max, some reward and remote access(vnc/teamviewer) to ur pc and u will be hashing again at ur original rate or higher.
Title: Re: Catalyst 13.4 screwed 7970, how to sort out? Post by: Zanatos666 on June 18, 2013, 08:14:07 PM System restore back to before you did the AMD update and see where that takes you.
Title: Re: Catalyst 13.4 screwed 7970, how to sort out? Post by: kjib on June 18, 2013, 08:20:02 PM give me 2 hours max, some reward and remote access(vnc/teamviewer) to ur pc and u will be hashing again at ur original rate or higher. Well I have about 50 PPcoins but not in a position to mine anything new now! I can't offer access to the PC as it has work stuff on it & I'd get dragged over hot coals if something got trashed. If you have suggestions I'm happy to try them & if you provide the solution that works for me, give me a PPC address & they're yours. Title: Re: Catalyst 13.4 screwed 7970, how to sort out? Post by: kjib on June 18, 2013, 08:20:59 PM System restore back to before you did the AMD update and see where that takes you. Good suggestion but you guessed it, no restore to restore from. :o Title: Re: Catalyst 13.4 screwed 7970, how to sort out? Post by: kjib on June 18, 2013, 08:31:05 PM In case it helps, here is what Catalyst reports:
Code: Driver Packaging Version 9.012-121219a-154961C-ATI Title: Re: Catalyst 13.4 screwed 7970, how to sort out? Post by: lbr on June 18, 2013, 08:31:29 PM give me 2 hours max, some reward and remote access(vnc/teamviewer) to ur pc and u will be hashing again at ur original rate or higher. Well I have about 50 PPcoins but not in a position to mine anything new now! I can't offer access to the PC as it has work stuff on it & I'd get dragged over hot coals if something got trashed. If you have suggestions I'm happy to try them & if you provide the solution that works for me, give me a PPC address & they're yours. though video of s1 getting dragged over hot coals sounds like fun > : ) Title: Re: Catalyst 13.4 screwed 7970, how to sort out? Post by: Zanatos666 on June 18, 2013, 08:34:50 PM Thanks for the suggestion about the SDK but that made no difference. :( I did find this crash report, no idea what most of it is all about but it does refer to a module name: Quote Faulting Application Path: C:\cgminer-3.1.0-windows\cgminer.exe Problem signature Problem Event Name: APPCRASH Application Name: cgminer.exe Application Version: 0.0.0.0 Application Timestamp: 517d4469 Fault Module Name: StackHash_0a9e Fault Module Version: 0.0.0.0 Fault Module Timestamp: 00000000 Exception Code: c0000005 Exception Offset: 00000000 OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.1 Locale ID: 2057 Additional Information 1: 0a9e Additional Information 2: 0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789 Additional Information 3: 0a9e Additional Information 4: 0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789 Does that lot shed any light on the problem to anyone? :'( Any suggestions welcome... ??? Update to the latest version of cgminer, 3.2.2, see if that doesnt change something. Title: Re: Catalyst 13.4 screwed 7970, how to sort out? Post by: kjib on June 18, 2013, 08:36:09 PM I tried running CGMiner with verbose output and even without doing anything (I was doing this):
Code: cgminer --benchmark -D --verbose 2>logfile.txt this is the entire extent of the logfile: Code: [2013-06-18 21:13:10] Started cgminer 3.1.0 Clearly this is not giving much away but I guess it does tell us that it's quite early on in what cgminer does to set things up... Title: Re: Catalyst 13.4 screwed 7970, how to sort out? Post by: kjib on June 18, 2013, 08:39:01 PM Quote Update to the latest version of cgminer, 3.2.2, see if that doesnt change something. Same problem with 3.2.2 but thanks for the suggestion. Title: Re: Catalyst 13.4 screwed 7970, how to sort out? Post by: zyk0 on June 18, 2013, 08:43:09 PM Try a) deleting the .bin files from cgminer's directory (cached compiled opencl kernels) b) making sure you have matching openCL drivers for version. 1) uninstalling Catalyst 13.1 2) manually deleting amdocl*.* from C:\Windows\System32 and if x64 C:\Windows\SYSWOW64\ 3) reinstalling Catalyst 13.1 AMD likes to leave those files behind and not replace newer versions. Title: Re: Catalyst 13.4 screwed 7970, how to sort out? Post by: kjib on June 18, 2013, 08:48:52 PM I tried following the CGminer debug instructions which work but did not generate anything that means a lot to me:
Code: cgminer_debug.exe caused an Access Violation at location 7564c9f1 Reading from location 00000000. If it means something to you, let us know... Title: Re: Catalyst 13.4 screwed 7970, how to sort out? Post by: kjib on June 18, 2013, 08:51:25 PM Try a) deleting the .bin files from cgminer's directory (cached compiled opencl kernels) b) making sure you have matching openCL drivers for version. 1) uninstalling Catalyst 13.1 2) manually deleting amdocl*.* from C:\Windows\System32 and if x64 C:\Windows\SYSWOW64\ 3) reinstalling Catalyst 13.1 AMD likes to leave those files behind and not replace newer versions. I give that a go, thank you. Title: Re: Catalyst 13.4 screwed 7970, how to sort out? Post by: LordTheron on June 18, 2013, 08:57:25 PM Do you have any errors or warnings in system or application logs?
Title: Re: Catalyst 13.4 screwed 7970, how to sort out? Post by: kjib on June 18, 2013, 09:11:50 PM Do you have any errors or warnings in system or application logs? No warnings etc, no. In case anyone is getting excited about the offer of PP coins, sorry, it is Terra coins (TRC) that I have. I don't think there's a massive difference in value anyway.... Title: Re: Catalyst 13.4 screwed 7970, how to sort out? Post by: kjib on June 18, 2013, 09:17:52 PM Try a) deleting the .bin files from cgminer's directory (cached compiled opencl kernels) b) making sure you have matching openCL drivers for version. 1) uninstalling Catalyst 13.1 2) manually deleting amdocl*.* from C:\Windows\System32 and if x64 C:\Windows\SYSWOW64\ 3) reinstalling Catalyst 13.1 AMD likes to leave those files behind and not replace newer versions. zyk0, you are the winner. Let me have a TRC address if you'd like some coins. On the downside, I am still not back up to full speed with scrypt mining (only about 400K when 6-700 sounds more like the norm). Any further suggestions on that one, (it's slower than it was before I installed 13.4 and now that's gone along with my KH >:( ). Title: Re: Catalyst 13.4 screwed 7970, how to sort out? Post by: zyk0 on June 18, 2013, 09:28:29 PM zyk0, you are the winner. Let me have a TRC address if you'd like some coins. On the downside, I am still not back up to full speed with scrypt mining (only about 400K when 6-700 sounds more like the norm). Any further suggestions on that one, (it's slower than it was before I installed 13.4 and now that's gone along with my KH >:( ). Just glad I could get you 1/2 way there. What's your worksize, gpu-thread-concurrency, engine&memory clocks, gpu-threads & intensity set to? and is the GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT envrionment variable set to 100? Title: Re: Catalyst 13.4 screwed 7970, how to sort out? Post by: kjib on June 18, 2013, 09:53:20 PM zyk0, you are the winner. Let me have a TRC address if you'd like some coins. On the downside, I am still not back up to full speed with scrypt mining (only about 400K when 6-700 sounds more like the norm). Any further suggestions on that one, (it's slower than it was before I installed 13.4 and now that's gone along with my KH >:( ). Just glad I could get you 1/2 way there. What's your worksize, gpu-thread-concurrency, engine&memory clocks, gpu-threads & intensity set to? and is the GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT envrionment variable set to 100? GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT is at 100. For SHA256 I have Core clock = 1160MHz, Memory clock = 1050 and everything else on default. For scrypt I typically have Core clock = 1130MHz, Memory clock = 1550 and -I 13 --shaders 2048 --thread-concurrency 8192 --lookup-gap 2 -g 4 -w 256 Title: Re: Catalyst 13.4 screwed 7970, how to sort out? Post by: kjib on June 18, 2013, 09:56:02 PM Forgot to give approx #
GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT is at 100. For SHA256 I have Core clock = 1160MHz, Memory clock = 1050 and everything else on default. For scrypt I typically have Core clock = 1130MHz, Memory clock = 1550 and -I 13 --shaders 2048 --thread-concurrency 8192 --lookup-gap 2 -g 4 -w 256 This gives around 400K# for scrypt and about 649M# for SHA256. Title: Re: Catalyst 13.4 screwed 7970, how to sort out? Post by: zyk0 on June 18, 2013, 10:20:08 PM I haven't had a 7950 or 7970 to play with, but I generally need a much higher intensity for scrypt and have seen gains using less threads and smaller work sizes.
my 6970 & 5850s are at intensity 19 and 7770, 7790 & 6850s are at intensity 17 Title: Re: Catalyst 13.4 screwed 7970, how to sort out? Post by: tdslot on August 20, 2013, 11:47:28 AM Hello,
I have problem. :) Who can help me? I have mining rig hardware:
Software:
My cgminer.conf Code: "api-allow" : "W:127.0.0.1", With this configuration 3x GPU cards running stable. But when I connect 4 card and run cgminer works very bad and turnoff motherboard. But PSU still running. Who can help me with this problem? Maybe not impossible run rig with 4x GPU's? Maybe my configuration is wrong? Or I forget something to install? Than you in advance, TDS Title: Re: Catalyst 13.4 screwed 7970, how to sort out? Post by: Zanatos666 on August 20, 2013, 02:22:51 PM Hello, I have problem. :) Who can help me? I have mining rig hardware:
Software:
My cgminer.conf Code: "api-allow" : "W:127.0.0.1", With this configuration 3x GPU cards running stable. But when I connect 4 card and run cgminer works very bad and turnoff motherboard. But PSU still running. Who can help me with this problem? Maybe not impossible run rig with 4x GPU's? Maybe my configuration is wrong? Or I forget something to install? Than you in advance, TDS With this config you should be able to run those cards, but the problem could be either something with Windows when connecting the 4th card. I believe I have seen posts on this. But, it also could be a heat issue.If the cards are not breathing properly, then they are overheating, and your mining is getting shut down. Title: Re: Catalyst 13.4 screwed 7970, how to sort out? Post by: tdslot on August 21, 2013, 05:27:11 AM With this config you should be able to run those cards, but the problem could be either something with Windows when connecting the 4th card. I believe I have seen posts on this. But, it also could be a heat issue.If the cards are not breathing properly, then they are overheating, and your mining is getting shut down. Hi, Thought in first time about high temperatures, but XFX7950 its in design with high temperatures. I thought put on then water block but other mining rigs owners run this cards without problems and same setup. And other owners run more than 4 cards. Maybe this could be risers problems? Maybe I need change risers into powered? Title: Re: Catalyst 13.4 screwed 7970, how to sort out? Post by: sikman on August 21, 2013, 12:00:22 PM OK try these settings for 7970 cards
change your -g 4 to -g 2 if that fails: run "AMD Catalyst Un-install Utility" : http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/Pages/catalyst-uninstall-utility.aspx (reboot PC) install 13.3beta3 drivers : http://www.guru3d.com/files_get/amd_catalyst_13_3_beta_2_download,1.html (reboot PC ) Batch file: setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100 setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1 cgminer --scrypt -o stratum+tcp://coinotron:3334 -u XXX -p XXX --auto-fan --temp-target 70 --gpu-engine 1044 --gpu-memclock 1500 --thread-concurrency 8192 -I 13 -g 2 -w 256 these settings above work for all my Gigabyte 7970 at a stable 710kh/s or try your settings for the overclock setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100 setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1 cgminer --scrypt -o stratum+tcp://coinotron:3334 -u XXX -p XXX --auto-fan --temp-target 70 --gpu-engine 1130 --gpu-memclock 1550 --thread-concurrency 8192 -I 13 -g 2 -w 256 Title: Re: Catalyst 13.4 screwed 7970, how to sort out? Post by: sikman on August 21, 2013, 12:04:52 PM Hello, I have problem. :) Who can help me? I have mining rig hardware:
Software:
My cgminer.conf Code: "api-allow" : "W:127.0.0.1", With this configuration 3x GPU cards running stable. But when I connect 4 card and run cgminer works very bad and turnoff motherboard. But PSU still running. Who can help me with this problem? Maybe not impossible run rig with 4x GPU's? Maybe my configuration is wrong? Or I forget something to install? Than you in advance, TDS TDS 1. Your shaders 2048 is all wrong, those are for 7970 cards, 7950 is 1792 2. gpu-powertune, change it to 20 3. Lower intensity to 19 when you set your voltage from 1.250 down to 1.087 you need powertune to keep it stable give that a try, if it dosent help let me know Title: Re: Catalyst 13.4 screwed 7970, how to sort out? Post by: tdslot on August 24, 2013, 11:29:56 AM TDS 1. Your shaders 2048 is all wrong, those are for 7970 cards, 7950 is 1792 2. gpu-powertune, change it to 20 3. Lower intensity to 19 when you set your voltage from 1.250 down to 1.087 you need powertune to keep it stable give that a try, if it dosent help let me know 1. I did. changed 2. I did. Also changed. 3. Also. Now I have about on 3 cards 590kh/s is limit over I can't squeeze . But with XFX7950 I can not under volt It's always keep voltage at: 0. Voltage 1.169 1. Voltage 1.250 2. Voltage 1.169 but in config I set vddc 1.087. I tryed with Trixx, Afterburner no of these program helps me to down voltage. Maybe I need some different soft? |