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Title: Is trust in USD finished?
Post by: PointHope on November 08, 2017, 12:46:01 PM
Seems a great many schills are trying to create doubt about bitcoin here..

The truth is as we speak the USD is printing currency like no tomorow.

The flat out honest truth is that USD should no longer be a trusted currency.


If deep reflection were to transpire, the USA government and associated currency should be declared a fraud right now as of this minute.


Title: Re: Is trust in USD finished?
Post by: masterbt on November 08, 2017, 12:49:58 PM
Banks trying every step to prevent that and try to undermine bitcoin value by creating a panic one way or another. There is long time to go for the btc to actually make this happen.


Title: Re: Is trust in USD finished?
Post by: trk on November 08, 2017, 12:52:57 PM
What do you mean? Government cant print az many cash as they want? You need to read more
There are a lot of requirement to create more cash, one of the requirement is gold reserve
So you cant just print cash as you wish


Title: Re: Is trust in USD finished?
Post by: 2fresh on November 08, 2017, 01:00:27 PM
What do you mean? Government cant print az many cash as they want? You need to read more
There are a lot of requirement to create more cash, one of the requirement is gold reserve
So you cant just print cash as you wish

You don't have to be a genius to see that what most countries are doing..
How do they even buy gold? Oh wait by printing more money.


Title: Re: Is trust in USD finished?
Post by: W4terhouse on November 08, 2017, 01:03:24 PM
That´s actual really risky what the us government is doing. But have a look at the European central bank, decreasing the pay tax and holding it stable on the ground. Makes the same inflation as the us is doing.


Title: Re: Is trust in USD finished?
Post by: affigne on November 08, 2017, 01:05:56 PM
Yesterday, I was watching an analysis about what's supporting the printing of USD. This guy said since late 30's the US government switched from gold reserves to oil reserves, and with some "reasoning" and "persuation", they"convinced" the arabs to sell their petroleum ONLY in USD, so that's how they support their currency.

But now that chinese are giving them the option of selling it in yuans with the promise of converting their money in gold anytime they want, they're weakening the old green paper.



Title: Re: Is trust in USD finished?
Post by: rodskee on November 08, 2017, 01:12:59 PM
i think this is fake news USA government have an strong regulation about the us dollar currency laws regulatded by us central bank approval by us president before make volume of money need, thats true bitcoin is one of the threat for the fiat money to replace them usd or any fiat cureency worldwide bitcoin become international currency.


Title: Re: Is trust in USD finished?
Post by: Red-Apple on November 08, 2017, 01:13:55 PM
i agree with all you said, but the world doesn't see it like that! USD is still a strong currency and the unit that is being used in many places to measure value of a lot of different things.
it is true they are printing it like crazy, it is also true that the US debt is growing to be a ridiculous number just to say! but it seems like none of it is changing much.

and besides i don't see why that is relevant to bitcoin. who created any doubt about bitcoin? and why is it related to this?!!


Title: Re: Is trust in USD finished?
Post by: LydiaBob on November 08, 2017, 01:15:49 PM
It is true that the banks will do everything in their power to prevent the value of bitcoin to rise. USD is "remarkable". They can print their own money (with the risk of inflation) whenever they want. Buy US bonds they will pay you back cause they will print their money! European Central Bank is more strict in these rules. Jokes aside, it is the trust in banks finished, hence in USD. And maybe this is one reason why BTC is more appealing to everyone


Title: Re: Is trust in USD finished?
Post by: Laurayaki on November 08, 2017, 01:15:57 PM
they can print as much bilet as they want but it's not good for the economy, and as bitcoin is not owned by the big banks ..


Title: Re: Is trust in USD finished?
Post by: Koadharber on November 08, 2017, 01:21:05 PM
Seems a great many schills are trying to create doubt about bitcoin here..

The truth is as we speak the USD is printing currency like no tomorow.

The flat out honest truth is that USD should no longer be a trusted currency.


If deep reflection were to transpire, the USA government and associated currency should be declared a fraud right now as of this minute.
You cant do nothing you can able to give comments or your own views but stopping the thing would really be nearly impossible.If you dont trust USD currency then im sure lots of people do trust it same as i do. Bitcoin or crypto can really give us the independence when handling our assets or cash holdings but the reality would really still remain strong no matter what. Fiat cant be replaced its being backed and government wont really allow such thing.


Title: Re: Is trust in USD finished?
Post by: tomahawk9 on November 08, 2017, 01:28:50 PM
Seems a great many schills are trying to create doubt about bitcoin here..

The truth is as we speak the USD is printing currency like no tomorow.

The flat out honest truth is that USD should no longer be a trusted currency.


If deep reflection were to transpire, the USA government and associated currency should be declared a fraud right now as of this minute.
to say that the USD shouldn't be a trusted currency is pure rubbish. You're saying this to the strongest world currency and pretty much THE global currency.
I'm all in about letting everyone know how crooked the US govt and Central Banks are, but let's not talk nonsense about the USD.
You say people are trying to creat doubt about bitcoin? let's be real, there is no way that BTC will replace the USD, let alone stop the govt from printing currency. This is coming from someone who wants to see Bitcoin replacing fiat currency in the near future.


Title: Re: Is trust in USD finished?
Post by: worldofcoins on November 08, 2017, 01:30:33 PM
Seems a great many schills are trying to create doubt about bitcoin here..

The truth is as we speak the USD is printing currency like no tomorow.

The flat out honest truth is that USD should no longer be a trusted currency.


If deep reflection were to transpire, the USA government and associated currency should be declared a fraud right now as of this minute.

Yep you are right, the democracy has failed us Americans, Our forefathers did not even intend for this to happen, nor they probably think that the government would get corrupted, from the banks all the way to the white house.  Governments borrowing money from banks, and everything else is a disgrace.  you know they might get rid of fiat though, I can see a future without paper money.  Everything is gonna be digital one day and that is how they are gonna hide behind the mess they left.


Title: Re: Is trust in USD finished?
Post by: SyGambler on November 08, 2017, 01:32:34 PM
any nation currency shouldn't be trusted that much , but let's face it USD is still one of the most trusted worldwide so can't see that people lost trust in it
but in small countries where local currencies suffered ( like my country ) the currency basically is kinda worthless now so USD may suffer that too oneday , the odds of that aren't great IMO but still there is a possibility


Title: Re: Is trust in USD finished?
Post by: irfanmalik04 on November 08, 2017, 02:13:31 PM
I am very happy to see bitcoin as a powerful currency, now time to down usd value


Title: Re: Is trust in USD finished?
Post by: PointHope on November 09, 2017, 12:08:17 AM
I am very happy to see bitcoin as a powerful currency, now time to down usd value

Me too, America/USA started out as good idea.

It just got co-opted by greedy motherfuckers. (Who crucified Jesus?) (Think on that)

Bitcoin is going through a similar gestation. (Jesus did not have the puritty of mathematics)
Unlike the USA and the other corrupt motherfucker government which infest the planet.

Bitcoin has a truly original mathematical purity which cannot be corrupted.

Be aware how the corrupt greedy cunts governments are going to spread doubt about the mathematical purity of bitcoins.

Bitcoin is pure logic and truth..

Fuck government, fuck the greedy assholes!


Title: Re: Is trust in USD finished?
Post by: ismart1 on November 09, 2017, 12:30:51 AM
The trust and distrust is a very thoughtful issue and it´s just a mix of feeling depending on whom you´ll ask. Tha facts are that USD still the primary coin for international market otherwise the US would be broken a long ago. The fact is that the US has the economics of all world using its currency as a pattern just like every token created right now will always revolve around bitcoin, no matter what, you may hate bitcoin or dollars but when it comes to reference of value you´ll go back to dollar and bitcoins liking or not.


Title: Re: Is trust in USD finished?
Post by: Silverdewz on November 09, 2017, 01:07:22 AM
Bitcoin has more and more influence on banks and financial circles. They can no longer underestimate the impact of bitcoin. The traditional currency is bound to be hit, so it is still very optimistic about the future development of bitcoin.
 :-\


Title: Re: Is trust in USD finished?
Post by: michellee on November 09, 2017, 01:10:41 AM
Seems a great many schills are trying to create doubt about bitcoin here..

The truth is as we speak the USD is printing currency like no tomorow.

The flat out honest truth is that USD should no longer be a trusted currency.


If deep reflection were to transpire, the USA government and associated currency should be declared a fraud right now as of this minute.

there is many people still doubt about bitcoin and they still hold USD because they can USD with free and they only use bitcoin in a limited place. but I don't think that trust in usd is finished because USD is still using as some adjustment for another fiat and its different than bitcoin which is only using in internet. but soon after many country is realize the benefits crypto currency especially bitcoin, I think they will use bitcoin too like what we did.


Title: Re: Is trust in USD finished?
Post by: virtfund on November 09, 2017, 01:27:26 AM
Until 1960, the United States had kept every dollar against gold in the central bank. Since 1971  gold wasn't  kept and plenty of unrequited dollars were sold to the whole world. Currently, no country, including the United States, is satisfied with this situation. USD purchasing power has decreased by 97% since 1933, confidence in USD is already over. So, decantralized  digital money, which is not monopolized by any country, will start its era.


Title: Re: Is trust in USD finished?
Post by: wagi on November 09, 2017, 01:41:48 AM
Every country i think has rule when they can print their paper money.
Its not that easy mate. They should calculate many aspect in economy section before doing it.
It also happen to USD, so that reason is not right as standars.


Title: Re: Is trust in USD finished?
Post by: jseverson on November 09, 2017, 04:33:11 AM
Why would you say trust in USD is finished? Fact is, USD is still far more trusted worldwide than Bitcoin. I have no information that pertains to the United States printing cash like no tomorrow, but I'm fairly sure they know what they're doing. The USD has been doing pretty well for months now.

That being said, I trust Bitcoin as well, despite all the FUD. You don't have to be against Bitcoin to trust fiat. They both have their pros.


Title: Re: Is trust in USD finished?
Post by: Fatanut on November 09, 2017, 05:19:48 AM
What do you mean? Government cant print az many cash as they want? You need to read more
There are a lot of requirement to create more cash, one of the requirement is gold reserve
So you cant just print cash as you wish

You don't have to be a genius to see that what most countries are doing..
How do they even buy gold? Oh wait by printing more money.

I don't know about the other guy but as long as you are not living in the past, then you are wrong. Gold reserve is a thing of the past. If you haven't read about the Nixon Shock, then I suggest that you go ahead and do a quick search for it. In 1970s, Richard Nixon removed the requirement for gold reserve for people to print money. Nowadays, a lot of countries have tons of debts in major countries so they are left with no choice but to print money continuously. As you might probably notice, literally all of the goods and services (or simply commodities) have a rising price. You can often hear people saying that things are now more expensive than ever but the truth is, it's our money that has a problem. Since there's no more requirement for printing dollars or any other currency, the government can just print as much money as they want and never have to worry about it. And that simple action inflates our money. There's a lot of new money coming in, thus the value of it decreases.

So is the trust for USD finished? I want to say it "should" be finished right after the Nixon Shock but at that time they have no other choice but to continue using it since there was no other alternative for it. Now, we have bitcoins, and it's time for people to wake up to this truth that we shouldn't trust our fiat money as much as we are doing so right now.


Title: Re: Is trust in USD finished?
Post by: Kakmakr on November 09, 2017, 05:35:38 AM
The USD will be one of the global reserve currencies of this world, until the fiat system collapse and Bitcoin can scale to handle such a volume of transactions. < not even sure if this is possible anymore > I think most of these governments will be going cashless soon and it will be replaced with private Blockchain technologies.

I think the thing holding them back is scaling and finding the technology that would handle such traffic and also educating the consumers. As soon as scaling is sorted out, more regulation will be passed to pave the way for a cashless society. 


Title: Re: Is trust in USD finished?
Post by: imamimam1234 on November 09, 2017, 05:36:22 AM
Not finished. Many aspects still using this currency in huge amount in huge business also many country use this currency as a parameter how develop the country is (gdp), dont forget many people only know bitcoin but don't want get involved or using bitcoin,they still believe and have high expectation in usd or other fiat currency. CMIIW :)


Title: Re: Is trust in USD finished?
Post by: GreenBits on November 09, 2017, 06:39:24 AM
Seems a great many schills are trying to create doubt about bitcoin here..

The truth is as we speak the USD is printing currency like no tomorow.

The flat out honest truth is that USD should no longer be a trusted currency.


If deep reflection were to transpire, the USA government and associated currency should be declared a fraud right now as of this minute.

The USD aint printing sht ;D but the US gov is breaking its fucking neck to inject more fiat into the system; there are benevolent and sinister reason for doing this. just like bitcoin, through user error fiat leaves circulation (fires, torn bills, etc). so new bills have to be inserted into the supply to cover the fiat destroyed, or the supply would dwindle and the value would artificially deflate.


govs also actually need to be able to inflate and deflate the supply at will. its important that a gov can keep a handle on its value; the wealth and security of all its citizens rests on this.

but blockchain technology will be the backbone of digital finance. just not all finance.


Title: Re: Is trust in USD finished?
Post by: SUDARMONO on November 09, 2017, 08:36:27 AM
this is very good, this is the value of the bitcoin currency that many later on most of the people in this world including me, bitcoin currency is not inedible inflation the price of goods is very profitable to have and to place invest in the future, the currency that never monopolized by a country.


Title: Re: Is trust in USD finished?
Post by: Opquar on November 09, 2017, 08:49:02 AM
Bitcoin is absolutely not replacing the USD in the next few decades. The gap of usage between the two is simply insurmountable. The USD is not going anywhere and it is not going to be declared a fraud.


Title: Re: Is trust in USD finished?
Post by: romero121 on November 09, 2017, 08:53:25 AM
The trust over USD is found, that won't decrease in a short or long as that's the one which governs the economy. Recent days the value of usd has been declining. Just based on that, users might be thinking that USD is finished. Maybe when cryptocurrency becomes more popular the value decrease might continue for a longer time period.


Title: Re: Is trust in USD finished?
Post by: YuginKadoya on November 09, 2017, 09:15:22 AM
The trust over USD is found, that won't decrease in a short or long as that's the one which governs the economy. Recent days the value of usd has been declining. Just based on that, users might be thinking that USD is finished. Maybe when cryptocurrency becomes more popular the value decrease might continue for a longer time period.

Yup! Dollar can not be replace by bitcoin for now I really think it is too early to adapt bitcoin and many people that I have talk too doesn't have any idea about bitcoin they think that it is just a thing so you can earn money, there are a lot to discuss about it and knowledge to gain with bitcoin for people to really adapt it, and USD is a well known usable thing for transaction even in other countries USD will not diminish into nothing.


Title: Re: Is trust in USD finished?
Post by: cah ndablek on November 09, 2017, 09:21:48 AM
Seems a great many schills are trying to create doubt about bitcoin here..

The truth is as we speak the USD is printing currency like no tomorow.

The flat out honest truth is that USD should no longer be a trusted currency.


If deep reflection were to transpire, the USA government and associated currency should be declared a fraud right now as of this minute.
Let us not panic after such news Because we must be sure that bitcoin will experience a very fast movement every time.So it is necessary to have patience in realizing it.