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Title: Is Bitcoin Down Because of SegWit2x or Bubble?
Post by: RamesesLabs on November 09, 2017, 03:14:38 PM
As everyone has probably already heard, the SegWit2x is cancelled. After such controversy surrounding the way it was done, it seems as if Bitcoin is going to stay the same for the time being. While Bitcoin is down in early trading on the day after the announcement, so are other Bitcoin tied cryptos. BitcoinCash seems to be resilient. Does the botched attempt at trying to make blocks bigger make investors want to leave Bitcoin for newer blockchain technology?

Looking for insight for a news article I am writing for The Wall Street Bitcoin Exchange. If you haven't heard about the SegWit2x cancellation yet, we recommend you check out our article at: http://www.wallstreetbitcoinexchange.com/segwit2x_cancelled_by_bitcoin_news_headlines.html (http://www.wallstreetbitcoinexchange.com/segwit2x_cancelled_by_bitcoin_news_headlines.html) before voting. We look to do a more in depth piece based on feedback from our social media channels. Thanks in advance for the responses.


Title: Re: Is Bitcoin Down Because of SegWit2x or Bubble?
Post by: Xavofat on November 09, 2017, 06:07:14 PM
It's not that significantly down, but I'd say it was largely due to a bubble which was amplified by SegWit2x.

The incorrect notion that people could just get "free money", sell it and suddenly see an increase in their portfolio was irresistible to a lot of participants in the current bubble, because they're very new to investing (as are most people who take part in bubbles this deep in).

Perhaps stagnating hype may have an adverse effect on price over the coming weeks, but for now the fall hasn't been as significant as I was expecting.


Title: Re: Is Bitcoin Down Because of SegWit2x or Bubble?
Post by: gamerfan on November 09, 2017, 06:10:42 PM
It's not so down, just a little correction. But it's still over 7k. Also consider many altcoins are on the rise from yesterday, so many people are buying altcoins instead of BTC these days...


Title: Re: Is Bitcoin Down Because of SegWit2x or Bubble?
Post by: Mrengage on November 09, 2017, 06:11:38 PM
Segwit2x news will definately have an effect on the early bubble,would not be surprise if the price falls the more in the coming weeks


Title: Re: Is Bitcoin Down Because of SegWit2x or Bubble?
Post by: winspiral on November 09, 2017, 06:12:59 PM
If this is "down"...what will be the word if it is falling at $4000?
...where it should be.


Title: Re: Is Bitcoin Down Because of SegWit2x or Bubble?
Post by: dothebeats on November 09, 2017, 06:14:39 PM
Everyone was hyped about Segwit2x and bought tons of coins to make sure that they'd receive their S2X coins after the fork concludes and sell it after. The hype from the cancelled fork somewhat formed a small bubble which pushed the price to $7700+, but shortly after it was announced, the bubble popped and lo, we drove back down to $7200.

It's not as if the drop was the end of bitcoin, it's just a small correction happening after people bought loads of bitcoin due to the assumption that they'd make a quick buck on S2X. More and more people are getting into bitcoins lately. Watch out for insane price increases.


Title: Re: Is Bitcoin Down Because of SegWit2x or Bubble?
Post by: Harlot on November 09, 2017, 06:26:27 PM
Bitcoin is already a bubble but that is not the main reason why Bitcoin is down, I suspect that  it is the cancellation of the Segwit2X that made Bitcoin's price to decrease. It is really a significant news for people who have bought Bitcoin in order to participate the upcoming fork and it had created a minor correction as I see Bitcoin's price going back to 7200$ soon.


Title: Re: Is Bitcoin Down Because of SegWit2x or Bubble?
Post by: Washball on November 09, 2017, 06:28:00 PM
The price dropped a little after the announcement, but that does not matter. Bitcoin will go up again, when people realize and see the value. Actions may profit from all this, but Bitcoin remains the most important crypto and will be 10K this year.


Title: Re: Is Bitcoin Down Because of SegWit2x or Bubble?
Post by: Anonylz on November 09, 2017, 06:31:56 PM
I dont know why it has been dropping since the morning, but i am sure that it is going to recover soon, this whole dump can not be forever. It was more than $7,7k yesterday, it can still recover if there are some good news or anything else thate can pump the price for a while.
But $7,2k is not a good price if we think about it, it is almost over the all time high from last week, so it is not a bad price, but yes, it is very low compared to $7,7k.
But it will go up once that all this mess gets clarified.



Title: Re: Is Bitcoin Down Because of SegWit2x or Bubble?
Post by: bamboylee on November 09, 2017, 07:24:33 PM
Actually I was expecting it to drop after the hardfork when holders got their segwit2x and they would take advantage of the low price of altcoins. It just got pushed ahead because of the cancellation of segwit2x. Not it is just profit taking and getting hold of some cheap altcoins. The money will roll back to bitcoin after this phase.


Title: Re: Is Bitcoin Down Because of SegWit2x or Bubble?
Post by: coiner495 on November 09, 2017, 08:09:35 PM
This is not down, it's rather flat. One may say it's down if the price goes under $6800.
If something related to the word "bubble" starts to happen, you will see BTC around $3000. Bubble burst is when nobody believe in future of Bitcoin. But for this kind of scenario something dramatic should happen.


Title: Re: Is Bitcoin Down Because of SegWit2x or Bubble?
Post by: bitjoin on November 09, 2017, 08:18:54 PM

Im pretty impressed its still where it is because i was under the impression people were buying up the market for the free airdrop coins. Next week will be very interesting.


Title: Re: Is Bitcoin Down Because of SegWit2x or Bubble?
Post by: Don Pedro Dinero on November 09, 2017, 08:27:00 PM
If this is "down"...what will be the word if it is falling at $4000?
...where it should be.

I think exactly the same. We have had 1000% return in a year and it seems that we are “down” because it has fallen some hundreds since last ATH.

People who think like OP expect bitcoin to go constantly up and are the first to panic if it goes down, not like now, but for example if it fell to $4000, as you say. In that case, many people would see an opportunity to buy, whereas the others would panic and sell.


Title: Re: Is Bitcoin Down Because of SegWit2x or Bubble?
Post by: dewi91 on November 09, 2017, 08:41:17 PM
Up and down the price of bitcoin is not a big problem because the value of bitcoin is fluctuate.. sometimes the prices a little down and Will be rise up again.. now bitcoin is more strongly, don't worry about the price


Title: Re: Is Bitcoin Down Because of SegWit2x or Bubble?
Post by: scottykarate on November 09, 2017, 08:48:24 PM
It seems to me like Bitcoin is actually doing great considering the huge move into alts. I thought it would dip toward mid $6k USD, so I'm actually highly impressed with it's resiliency.


Title: Re: Is Bitcoin Down Because of SegWit2x or Bubble?
Post by: Faroxx on November 09, 2017, 08:51:38 PM
I think that now bitcoin is falling because of the abolition of the S2X. Until the end of the year, the bubble still have time to swell to 10 000$ . IMHO.


Title: Re: Is Bitcoin Down Because of SegWit2x or Bubble?
Post by: bitart on November 09, 2017, 09:40:03 PM
If this is "down"...what will be the word if it is falling at $4000?
...where it should be.

I think exactly the same. We have had 1000% return in a year and it seems that we are “down” because it has fallen some hundreds since last ATH.

People who think like OP expect bitcoin to go constantly up and are the first to panic if it goes down, not like now, but for example if it fell to $4000, as you say. In that case, many people would see an opportunity to buy, whereas the others would panic and sell.

It's not a real problem, as long as there are a bit more opprotunity buyers  then panic sellers... There are so many possible problems that could come up until the mass adoption happens (government regulations, banks returning cashouts via wire transfers to exchanges, etc), that if the price will fall to $4000, most people will not be sure that the way forward is still the up... and this is why the price is still very volatile.
Just imagine, a lot of people invested this year, the price was around $2000 or $3000, so they won't care about $4000, but if someone invested at $6000... I would prefer a slower but steady increase instead of the "to the moon"...


Title: Re: Is Bitcoin Down Because of SegWit2x or Bubble?
Post by: Reid on November 09, 2017, 09:42:36 PM
It will be the recent. The segwit being cancelled.
We know a lot of people have been hoping for a good airdrop after it and now that it will not come true it is time to go back to the altcoins that they have been suporting to.
With new ICOs that came this could also be a good reason they are exchanging their bitcoins.


Title: Re: Is Bitcoin Down Because of SegWit2x or Bubble?
Post by: Crypdon on November 09, 2017, 09:45:27 PM
Investors are still in the wait and see mode, but when it goes under $7000 then the bear run will really begin.


Title: Re: Is Bitcoin Down Because of SegWit2x or Bubble?
Post by: xBitHodler on November 09, 2017, 10:10:32 PM
Give it a few days. The price will quickly recover and reach $8000. I'm quite surprised how the things turned out. What a shame I don't keep any money on the exchange so I couldn't sell some of my BTC. If I had had some, I would have earned a lot. SegWit2x was indeed one of the reasons why the price has increased.


Title: Re: Is Bitcoin Down Because of SegWit2x or Bubble?
Post by: soham on November 09, 2017, 10:18:45 PM
As everyone has probably already heard, the SegWit2x is cancelled. After such controversy surrounding the way it was done, it seems as if Bitcoin is going to stay the same for the time being. While Bitcoin is down in early trading on the day after the announcement, so are other Bitcoin tied cryptos. BitcoinCash seems to be resilient. Does the botched attempt at trying to make blocks bigger make investors want to leave Bitcoin for newer blockchain technology?

Looking for insight for a news article I am writing for The Wall Street Bitcoin Exchange. If you haven't heard about the SegWit2x cancellation yet, we recommend you check out our article at: http://www.wallstreetbitcoinexchange.com/segwit2x_cancelled_by_bitcoin_news_headlines.html (http://www.wallstreetbitcoinexchange.com/segwit2x_cancelled_by_bitcoin_news_headlines.html) before voting. We look to do a more in depth piece based on feedback from our social media channels. Thanks in advance for the responses.

Yes, probably that is the reason for bitcoin price to go down to this current level. I had expected more dip, around at $6800 level, but I am glad that didn't happen. This is only a slight dip and will be recovered soon. A lot of investors worldwide started stacking up bitcoins in the hope of getting free segwit2x coins. When it was called of yesterday, I expected a lot of such investors will pull out their funds. But there is a second story that supported the bitcoin price to stay at this level.

CME group is a well known name is derivatives market. So once they will actually enter the market, bitcoin will take another step to become main stream. It will promote the bitcoin to the mass as well as a lot of real world white money investment will flow into it. That is the reason the market is still surviving with a big hope. I don't think the market price of bitcoin will go any further down. It is just accumulating strength to take the next leap.


Title: Re: Is Bitcoin Down Because of SegWit2x or Bubble?
Post by: Halcyon Days on November 09, 2017, 10:38:37 PM
After it rose and rose up to 7k and hitting an all time high, the current price is not really down. Down would be 2-3k and even this is still a major plus from the beginning of the year.
I would not worry too much. If it goes up, it has to go down, too, before rising even higher. As long as it swings, this is healthy growth.


Title: Re: Is Bitcoin Down Because of SegWit2x or Bubble?
Post by: gundala on November 09, 2017, 10:42:31 PM
just like any other expectation. I am sure after hardfork bitcoin price will be higher. however, usually the price will drop first before finally sliding away to reach the highest price.


Title: Re: Is Bitcoin Down Because of SegWit2x or Bubble?
Post by: eaLiTy on November 09, 2017, 10:42:53 PM
I think we would see some hibernation time before seeing another rally as the price of bitcoin is soaring for a long time without any major correction and i expect a correction before another rally and in the wake of another fork people were investing in it to take advantage of split coins and at least those who got into for the extra dough will move to other coins since the fork is canceled and that is what i think.


Title: Re: Is Bitcoin Down Because of SegWit2x or Bubble?
Post by: Indrawan77 on November 09, 2017, 11:09:22 PM
It is down because of the b2x cancellation, many people are enthusiastic about the forking so a lot of them are holding bitcoin to get the free coin, when it is cancelled, most of  them  will used  bitcoin to buy alt, so it had caused bitcoin price to go down, but there is still chances that bitcoin going to pass $8000 before 2018


Title: Re: Is Bitcoin Down Because of SegWit2x or Bubble?
Post by: rodskee on November 09, 2017, 11:27:21 PM
the segwit2x hard fork was cancelled because goes in favor into the miner's if i'm not wrong have many trials from bitcoin bitcoin in my observation every time have an problems facing of bitcoin he still stand ontop as number in cryptocurrency, but i think nobdy can predict today its comes double or down the price value, but hoping no increase no down still in same value are also good for us. but remember i said nobody can predict the bitcoin value today.