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Title: Bitpico , segwit2X going ahead as Planned!!!
Post by: AztekPhoenix on November 10, 2017, 04:01:15 AM
 ;)


Title: Re: Bitpico , segwit2X going ahead as Planned!!!
Post by: arranka on November 10, 2017, 04:16:28 AM
everyone is selling their altcoin, moving to btc to get free coins


https://bitcoin2x.org/

https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@cryp2me/urgent-bitcoin2x-continue-again


https://coin.dance/


Title: Re: Bitpico , segwit2X going ahead as Planned!!!
Post by: pooya87 on November 10, 2017, 04:27:11 AM
https://news.bitcoin.com/bitpico-claims-segwit2x-still-alive-despite-evidence-contrary/

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[]Reports of 2X’s death have been greatly exaggerated.
That’s according to a statement issued by little-known mining group Bitpico.
In a defiant message that appeared on a mailing list, Bitpico claimed to control 30% of the network hashrate and to be pressing ahead with the B2X fork regardless.[/color][/size]

being dead is not the same as not doing the hard fork on the predefined date. the original statement which was signed by most big guys! was clearly saying they may come back and try for the 2 MB hard fork when it was clear to everyone that there is more scaling than SegWit is needed.

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https://bitcoin2x.org/en/
this seems more like a scam to me. a poorly fork of bitcoin.org (since it is open source) without any link to any source code or wallet.
and forking with a tiny portion of the hashrate with no developer! there are still things such as replay protection which is mandatory since they have a tiny hashrate. btc1 didn't implement it because they had over 95% hashrate at the time. now even Antpool stopped signalling.


Title: Re: Bitpico , segwit2X going ahead as Planned!!!
Post by: target on November 10, 2017, 04:31:37 AM


So are BTC holders going to still receive these coins?


Title: Re: Bitpico , segwit2X going ahead as Planned!!!
Post by: CryptoBry on November 10, 2017, 04:32:52 AM
https://news.bitcoin.com/bitpico-claims-segwit2x-still-alive-despite-evidence-contrary/

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[]Reports of 2X’s death have been greatly exaggerated.
That’s according to a statement issued by little-known mining group Bitpico.
In a defiant message that appeared on a mailing list, Bitpico claimed to control 30% of the network hashrate and to be pressing ahead with the B2X fork regardless.[/color][/size]

being dead is not the same as not doing the hard fork on the predefined date. the original statement which was signed by most big guys! was clearly saying they may come back and try for the 2 MB hard fork when it was clear to everyone that there is more scaling than SegWit is needed.

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https://bitcoin2x.org/en/
this seems more like a scam to me. a poorly fork of bitcoin.org (since it is open source) without any link to any source code or wallet.
and forking with a tiny portion of the hashrate with no developer! there are still things such as replay protection which is mandatory since they have a tiny hashrate. btc1 didn't implement it because they had over 95% hashrate at the time. now even Antpool stopped signalling.

Common sense should be brought back to these people. They have to learn to respect the decision of the greater number of people and try to see the bigger picture for the good of the whole Bitcoin community. We could not go on like we can do things on our own regardless on what can happen in the future. There are grounds why opposition to SegWit2x is clearly visible anywhere in the Bitocin community and BitPico people know them.


Title: Re: Bitpico , segwit2X going ahead as Planned!!!
Post by: rommelzkie on November 10, 2017, 04:56:39 AM
I smell war on bitcoins

Lets see what happens.


Title: Re: Bitpico , segwit2X going ahead as Planned!!!
Post by: pooya87 on November 10, 2017, 05:33:59 AM
this seems more like a scam to me. a poorly fork of bitcoin.org (since it is open source) without any link to any source code or wallet.
and forking with a tiny portion of the hashrate with no developer! there are still things such as replay protection which is mandatory since they have a tiny hashrate. btc1 didn't implement it because they had over 95% hashrate at the time. now even Antpool stopped signalling.


https://github.com/segwit2x/segwit2x.github.io

https://github.com/btc1/bitcoin/tree/segwit2x

No one has pulled down the githubs.

╥Aztek

i am talking about that website you shared which has no link to any source code. and they are separate from original SegWit2x team. mostly an unknown group that never existed before!

and the github pages have not been "pulled down" because they have not abandoned the project. they postponed it.

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we believe it will eventually become
obvious that on-chain capacity increases are necessary. When that happens,
we hope the community will come together and find a solution, possibly with
a blocksize increase. Until then, we are suspending our plans for the
upcoming 2MB upgrade.


Title: Re: Bitpico , segwit2X going ahead as Planned!!!
Post by: pooya87 on November 10, 2017, 05:45:21 AM
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Some postponed it , that these latest group does not agree with, but as long as the finished code is up on github, nothing is stopping them or anyone else from using it.

As in most things , a few people don't speak for everyone. So if the remaining few want to switch none of you can stop them from trying.

Welcome to Decentralization.

╥Aztek

in that case this is the story of the past ~9 years and as long as bitcoin code is open source and under MIT license anyone can fork the project and create a new one. and they will be practically creating an altcoin since they are a "small group and with no support" exactly like what bitcoin cash did with a small group of people and miners.

and in case you didn't know, this is not the first time someone uses bitcoin's code to create an altcoin whether they use the blockchain or not doesn't matter. 667 altcoins so far (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2292712.0)


Title: Re: Bitpico , segwit2X going ahead as Planned!!!
Post by: krishnapramod on November 10, 2017, 05:48:27 AM
A guy bought 90 B2X futures for $85,000 expecting the SegWit2x coin will become Bitcoin and thus walking away with a substantial profit. I am sure a few more individuals bought B2X with the same hopes, but since the fork was cancelled their gamble didn't play off.

Did there was a 30% drop in hashrate? No. Bitpico, an individual or a group, claim to control 30% of hashrate, but they claimed in an email last month that their pool accounted for 1.72% of the global hashrate and that they are in the process of deploying an additional 3-4% by the end of October. Now it is suddenly 30%, a highly unlikely scenario. Seems like a price manipulation ploy by those who bought B2X futures.

https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-segwit2x/2017-October/000420.html


Title: Re: Bitpico , segwit2X going ahead as Planned!!!
Post by: cagdask on November 17, 2017, 05:06:49 AM


So are BTC holders going to still receive these coins?

What wallet should we put them? I don't know which wallets are supporting segwit2x coins after the resurrection.