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Post by: greenprateek on November 10, 2017, 05:59:47 AM
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Title: Re: B2X is not dead yet.
Post by: tutorroma on November 10, 2017, 06:24:36 AM
Whether it's true or not, 2X should support you as long as you have the courage to challenge it. I appreciate your courage, come on, get rid of the other forks. If you can kill bitcoin, the sky, dare not imagine... ;D


Title: Re: B2X is not dead yet.
Post by: TUs77777 on November 10, 2017, 06:25:53 AM
B2x has already returned in value, and at the moment is worth $ 500 so far it is far from dead!


Title: Re: B2X is not dead yet.
Post by: Herbert2020 on November 10, 2017, 06:59:15 AM
Is it really true?The mentioned website looks like the clone of official bitcoin.org website lol.If they are really doing it at least have and original website.  ::)

Yup its true , a group under name bitpico is behind this. they claim to control 30% hashing power

https://news.bitcoin.com/bitpico-claims-segwit2x-still-alive-despite-evidence-contrary/

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/mysterious-group-bitpico-threatens-to-execute-segwit2x-hard-fork/

i seriously doubt this unknown group control anything more than 5% hashing power to mine bitcoin. and if they try to fork bitcoin (SegWit2x) with that much hashing power (even with 30%) they are doomed to fail because first of all nobody supports SegWit2x anymore at this point so their fork will be an orphaned fork that nobody even wants and probably won't even be listed on any exchanges. it doesn't even have the necessary replay protection.
secondly because of the high difficulty of bitcoin with 5% (or even the fake 30% claim) they won't be able to find enough blocks to create a proper fork.
and not to mention the price of B2X which means they will be throwing away money if they try it at this point.


Title: Re: B2X is not dead yet.
Post by: trinketmage on November 10, 2017, 07:09:55 AM
"Critics of Bitpico’s proposal to revive Segwit2X were swift to attribute the group’s motivation to a black hole they may have futures traded themselves into."

Of course some people came up on the loosing side of this event, so it´s no surprise. But I doubt the fork will be successful


Title: Re: B2X is not dead yet.
Post by: Scorpion on November 10, 2017, 07:17:40 AM

Yeah I figured as much because I original believed it was just a suspension of B2X. They're relentless and would love to configure Bitcoin to their liking, but the community is strong and we'll resist once again.


Title: Re: B2X is not dead yet.
Post by: paytplay on November 10, 2017, 07:25:30 AM
oh well , say goodbye to the alt coin rally, if this is true the alts should be all red in no time



Title: Re: B2X is not dead yet.
Post by: Nwereonye on November 10, 2017, 07:27:55 AM
Don't really understand why they are confused about the fork?


Title: Re: B2X is not dead yet.
Post by: Zemomtum on November 10, 2017, 07:34:24 AM

https://bitcoin2x.org/en/

We have decided to continue with the fork as planned. We will not allow the destiny of Bitcoin to be controlled by 6 individuals.

Same date - November 15th.

https://twitter.com/cryptoexpertsin/status/928863685904252928


A lot of people already dumped bitcoin because thay thought that the fork was cancelled. So I guess bitcoin will be pumped again. Altcoins will turn red once more, would be a great time to go shopping for altcoins. I was about to dump all my bitcoins. Good thing I read this thread. Let's just see and wait what would be the final call for segwit2x.


Title: Re: B2X is not dead yet.
Post by: Pursuer on November 10, 2017, 08:52:19 AM
they are not going to do it because there is no time to change things, with the real 1.7% hashrate that this group has they need to implement some emergency difficulty adjustment before they fork and even if they really had 30% and forked with that, it means they will be giving up on about $100,000 per block they find (12.5BTC block reward + 0.5-1BTC fee * 7500) and that is assuming bitcoin price is not going to reach $8000+

oh well , say goodbye to the alt coin rally, if this is true the alts should be all red in no time

the altcoins will soon be in red with or without this fork.

that is what happens when you are talking about a pump and dump altcoins. one day you pump them and the other they get dumped.


Title: Re: B2X is not dead yet.
Post by: warboat on November 10, 2017, 09:10:41 AM
Only about 15% support currently for B2X by miners.
https://coin.dance/poli


Title: Re: B2X is not dead yet.
Post by: bbcolex on November 10, 2017, 09:18:31 AM
Is this a joke? Why would they cancel it in the first place? I really can't understand this drama between segwit2x , if they really wan't to proceed the fork then they should have not cancelled it when they first announce it, they just causing bitcoin to be pump and dump by bag holders and make ALTS bleed.


Title: Re: B2X is not dead yet.
Post by: asdlolciterquit on November 10, 2017, 09:19:02 AM

https://bitcoin2x.org/en/

We have decided to continue with the fork as planned. We will not allow the destiny of Bitcoin to be controlled by 6 individuals.

Same date - November 15th.

https://twitter.com/cryptoexpertsin/status/928863685904252928


just to ask... i don't think that if a low percentage of miners will support btc x2 you can say that only 6 individuals control BTC. Can you explain more how can you say something like that?


Title: Re: B2X is not dead yet.
Post by: rafajunior99 on November 10, 2017, 09:22:23 AM

https://bitcoin2x.org/en/

We have decided to continue with the fork as planned. We will not allow the destiny of Bitcoin to be controlled by 6 individuals.

Same date - November 15th.

https://twitter.com/cryptoexpertsin/status/928863685904252928


A lot of people already dumped bitcoin because thay thought that the fork was cancelled. So I guess bitcoin will be pumped again. Altcoins will turn red once more, would be a great time to go shopping for altcoins. I was about to dump all my bitcoins. Good thing I read this thread. Let's just see and wait what would be the final call for segwit2x.

Not only others who think so, I also think like that, because I have run out of sense to see all that, maybe with me looking at this thread, I changed the decision to sell my Bitcoin and will hold it in some time.


Title: Re: B2X is not dead yet.
Post by: jamesbo on November 10, 2017, 09:36:58 AM
How is this info not on the front page of coindesk?? Interesting times indeed


Title: Re: B2X is not dead yet.
Post by: talkbitcoin on November 10, 2017, 09:37:34 AM
Only about 15% support currently for B2X by miners.
https://coin.dance/poli

it is 56% in past 24 hours, you are looking at it the wrong way: https://coin.dance/blocks

and that is unreliable because most miners does not even run a compatible with 2 MB clients. they just let the world know of their intentions in their coinbase transaction. and also it takes time for most of them to upgrade their servers and remove the NYA from their coinbase to show they no longer support it.


Title: Re: B2X is not dead yet.
Post by: AndriyPilipyak on November 10, 2017, 09:40:28 AM
all this news about segwit 2 can be manipulate game, and even more they did not plan this)


Title: Re: B2X is not dead yet.
Post by: DBronze98 on November 10, 2017, 09:41:13 AM

https://bitcoin2x.org/en/

We have decided to continue with the fork as planned. We will not allow the destiny of Bitcoin to be controlled by 6 individuals.

Same date - November 15th.

https://twitter.com/cryptoexpertsin/status/928863685904252928

LOL. You are really a positive person. Can B2x survive long enough or will it continue to die? I think, do not try to do anything when you know it's impossible.


Title: Re: B2X is not dead yet.
Post by: cropcream on November 10, 2017, 09:55:58 AM
How is this info not on the front page of coindesk?? Interesting times indeed
good question, just about as good as why is bch pumping so crazy hard


Title: Re: B2X is not dead yet.
Post by: illinest on November 10, 2017, 09:59:42 AM
https://bitcoin2x.org/en/

We have decided to continue with the fork as planned. We will not allow the destiny of Bitcoin to be controlled by 6 individuals.

Same date - November 15th.

https://twitter.com/cryptoexpertsin/status/928863685904252928

That's cute, but why would anyone care about this? The reasons 2x was a threat was due to a majority of miners and most of the major services leaving the legacy BTC chain. Jihan Wu signed the cancellation memo, so we can remove "majority of miners" from the equation. Without the mandate of having the strongest chain, how could they even begin to make the argument that 2x is "Bitcoin?"

That said, it's interesting that Coinbase said they were "monitoring" the situation 12 hours after the announcement came out -- almost as if they have an interest in pushing forward with the fork.

The reality is that the fork will happen because BTC1 nodes are already in the wild, and there are likely also other patched nodes set to fork at Block #494,784. But will anybody notice? That's the only question now....


Title: Re: B2X is not dead yet.
Post by: passwordnow on November 10, 2017, 10:05:02 AM
It will just become a simple alt coin that will be traded with smaller fractions by day traders. It was popular before because a lot of support is from majority of the bitcoin core miners. And now because of the cancellation, many did jumped off and get back to alt coin, bitcoin cash and other coins that are profitable to them. It may have a price but it's value will not be the same as bitcoin, so if you are into supporting B2x so say hello to another shite* coin out there.


Title: Re: B2X is not dead yet.
Post by: Xervo on November 10, 2017, 10:05:27 AM
Very interesting statement. And what to do in this case to all of us, ordinary investors? I'm very interested in how this will end, but I do not want to risk my money.


Title: Re: B2X is not dead yet.
Post by: FameBroker on November 10, 2017, 10:06:33 AM
There are so many conflicting information about this fork. There are articles saying that is cancelled, others saying it is suspended, and now this. Does anyone really know what is going on?  ???


Title: Re: B2X is not dead yet.
Post by: cropcream on November 10, 2017, 10:11:39 AM
so do we get free coins with the fork again or not


Title: Re: B2X is not dead yet.
Post by: batang_bitcoin on November 10, 2017, 10:14:17 AM
so do we get free coins with the fork again or not
There's no free coin, if I'm not mistaken that is final that there will be no more B2x as it has been on the news with different crypto news website. Whomever is behind this does really want to push his B2x futures and maybe he bought a lot of it.

There are so many conflicting information about this fork. There are articles saying that is cancelled, others saying it is suspended, and now this. Does anyone really know what is going on?  ???

Yes, majority of the articles are saying that it is cancelled and to be more accurate let's wait for a day or two to get some more reliable source.


Title: Re: B2X is not dead yet.
Post by: krun4 on November 10, 2017, 10:23:03 AM
How is this info not on the front page of coindesk?? Interesting times indeed
good question, just about as good as why is bch pumping so crazy hard

Woow you are right I have just noticed what is happening with BCH, such a sudden sky limit increase...


Title: Re: B2X is not dead yet.
Post by: squatter on November 10, 2017, 10:24:05 AM
so do we get free coins with the fork again or not

Well, they plan on running the btc1 software, which copies the UTXO set from Bitcoin. So yes, you get the free coins. However, there will not be replay protection (which has been repeated ad nauseum). So be very careful trying to recover the B2X.

Since the fork was called off by the bigger companies, there is much less demand for coin splitting services, since most people expect the fork to be a non-event now. That's bad news for newbies trying to get their "free money."


Title: Re: B2X is not dead yet.
Post by: bitbunnny on November 10, 2017, 10:29:30 AM
This is ridiculous, really. So many different streams and groups within the Bitcoin community this can't be good. That is why I always say that not the banks or governments will destroy Bitcoin, this can only happen because of the community itself. This should be solved somehow before some biger damage is done, not just this mass confusion with the forks.


Title: Re: B2X is not dead yet.
Post by: sammrheza on November 10, 2017, 10:37:22 AM
so yesterday statement is just for make the market shock ? after they took profit from altcoin then they continue to do the fork , nice strategy , double profit  ;D


Title: Re: B2X is not dead yet.
Post by: dothebeats on November 10, 2017, 10:44:45 AM
How is this info not on the front page of coindesk?? Interesting times indeed

Simply because it is irrelevant?

It's quite impressive that a single entity controls 30% of the entire network hashing power, but stats don't lie and as of late, the total support for B2X is 15%, far from their actual claim. They could push through with their plan. But the million dollar question is, would people actually believe it again after the 'cancellation' they've made before?

As long as consensus isn't reach (which I highly doubt again in this case), no fork will happen.


Title: Re: B2X is not dead yet.
Post by: jubalix on November 10, 2017, 10:48:44 AM
I believe i stated this would happen as soon as 2x was "cancelled"


Title: Re: B2X is not dead yet.
Post by: jubalix on November 10, 2017, 10:50:03 AM
How is this info not on the front page of coindesk?? Interesting times indeed

Simply because it is irrelevant?

It's quite impressive that a single entity controls 30% of the entire network hashing power, but stats don't lie and as of late, the total support for B2X is 15%, far from their actual claim. They could push through with their plan. But the million dollar question is, would people actually believe it again after the 'cancellation' they've made before?

As long as consensus isn't reach (which I highly doubt again in this case), no fork will happen.

why?

some one can just run 2x if they want, mod out the % consensus reqs or similar


Title: Re: B2X is not dead yet.
Post by: Hartmas on November 10, 2017, 10:53:38 AM
The problem remained unsolved. And this suggests that this issue will soon emerge. I think that soon we will dream about B2X


Title: Re: B2X is not dead yet.
Post by: jamesbo on November 10, 2017, 11:29:40 AM
nothing official yet or is it a done deal


Title: Re: B2X is not dead yet.
Post by: endaiin on November 10, 2017, 11:53:24 AM
Why BTC need fork? I think BTC no need to fork... so many altcoin are created after bitcoin, they are a child of bitcoin too.


Title: Re: B2X is not dead yet.
Post by: squatz1 on November 10, 2017, 05:44:15 PM
Is it really true?The mentioned website looks like the clone of official bitcoin.org website lol.If they are really doing it at least have and original website.  ::)

Yup its true , a group under name bitpico is behind this. they claim to control 30% hashing power

https://news.bitcoin.com/bitpico-claims-segwit2x-still-alive-despite-evidence-contrary/

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/mysterious-group-bitpico-threatens-to-execute-segwit2x-hard-fork/

Craziest thing in what you wrote is that they 'claim' and people are actually still scared. You'd think that just saying that someone is making such a BS statement like that would toss up some red flags. I could also claim I own a million Bitcoins and that I'm just chilling here, good thing that's just a CLAIM.

B2X is dead, this is some BS by people who are trying to drive up the futures on HitBtc. So Rest in Peace futures buying on hitbtc, sucks to suck.