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Title: Re: What is your opinion on Bitcoin Cash?
Post by: aquantivis86 on November 11, 2017, 01:43:01 AM
I wouldn't mind bitcoin forks that test out new technology.  It may be adopted by the main bitcoin chain if it results in significant improvement.  I don't think any will take over bitcoin but may have a future in the altcoin community after this.


Title: Re: What is your opinion on Bitcoin Cash? Scam, bubble?
Post by: redcrystal on November 11, 2017, 01:44:50 AM
I think bubble, but have bought in a little right now to sell at the top of the upswing :)


Title: Re: What is your opinion on Bitcoin Cash? Scam, bubble?
Post by: Savik on November 11, 2017, 01:56:56 AM
Lol! BTC has gone 7x in 7months and you guys are bitching about bubbles? Yes, BCH wont go up forever, there will be a drop, but it will continue its climb long term and BTC will come down from the top of the mountain.


Title: Re: What is your opinion on Bitcoin Cash? Scam, bubble?
Post by: Savik on November 11, 2017, 02:24:33 AM
Lol! BTC has gone 7x in 7months and you guys are bitching about bubbles? Yes, BCH wont go up forever, there will be a drop, but it will continue its climb long term and BTC will come down from the top of the mountain.
I am the only one wishing bitcoin cash to have a fiery death? Bitcoin cash is just a copy clone of real BITCOIN.

 Bitcoin Core are the rightful owners of Bitcoin development, and theymos is a true homeboy for Bitcoin.

I dont give a shit about the devs or theymos. I'm sure they are great guys, but the fact is BTC has fallen behind in terms of technology.

Question for those who only support BTC, is there ANYTHING that BTC could do which would make you change your opinion about it?


Title: Re: What is your opinion on Bitcoin Cash? Scam, bubble?
Post by: serian on November 11, 2017, 03:40:39 AM
I don't think so. Miners mine which is most profitable. And for now it is BTC. BTC doesn't scale very well. Transactions getting slower and fee higher.


Title: Re: What is your opinion on Bitcoin Cash? Scam, bubble?
Post by: bitfools on November 11, 2017, 04:01:03 AM
I don't think so. Miners mine which is most profitable. And for now it is BTC. BTC doesn't scale very well. Transactions getting slower and fee higher.

Just two days ago SEGWIT2 was declared dead!

Why? Because the 'experts' & bitcoin-core ppl now realize that Satoshi was right, that there is NO way in hell you can herd a bunch of cat's especially 51%, when there are millions of cats in a open desert.

All forks are dead,

WRT to the argument about fee's, slow transactions, ...

Fee's are a problem, but U don't have to pay the fee, and if you just wait until the next block u go into the front of queue,

Slow-transactions, again these are problems of fools, certainly 10 minutes or 2 hours is not bad if your moving $1M USD from a to b, what's the hurry?

WRT to buying coffee, well then use BTC-Z, its a penny coin that is essentially 100% BTC with equihash (GPU),

I think BTC will continue to be a 'rich mans' coin, no way in hell the average joe can own a coin, no more than the average joe can own an ounce of gold,

The average american don't have $500 USD in the bank, who in the hell is fooling who here?

NO BTC fork will ever get the 51% consensus, the writing is on the wall.

New Forks, or clones have to be VERY GOOD in order to surpass BTC, very good.

PPL forget these debates are not new, back in the 1990's or 1980's with PC's it was first that mattered, and best, and fastest, you had to be one of the three to be a king,

Same now BTC was first, and there they will stay, as for next tier u must be "BEST" who that be? Fastest again, as all is just a cheap clone, ...

I think 2nd gen BTC will come from somebody who rolls a new block-chain paradigm from scratch and resolves all the problems,

For now BTC will be the MODEL-T, perhaps it will have a 20+ year life, ... who knows, most likely it will become the rich mans gold,

Missing for most people is 'privacy', only they say Monero offers privacy, but it doesn't, thus IMHO the next COIN for the rich will be ...


1.) Fast
2.) Best
3.) Privacy, nobody knows, no public ledger, nobody knows whos rich
4.) untouchable by GOV, not even the NSA can break

Doing 1-4 above will require a team of people who are not sucking NSA cock, or being spoon fed by CIA, or MOSSAD.

Almost all coin including BITCOIN is uncomfortably too close to NSA, same for Monero and its questionable choice of EDSCA integers

IMHO the next BTC will come from some kid in Mexico or Laos, on his PC running his GPU, and he'll develop an ALGO that satisfy's 1-4

The problem with all coin to date, is that it all has vested interest by the "Powers that Be"

Take BITCOIN-GOLD, just a worthless piece of shit, but being pumped by richest guys in china, russia, and bulgaria, ... go figure; None of these are giving the little people what they need & want.

Once again, lets remind all of Satoshi's Vision.

1.) Free banking for all on earth

2.) little to no fee

3.) no transaction cost

4.) anonymous, nobody knows who has money and where

5.) no theft, nobody can steal your money

All governments on earth are organized criminals intent on robbing the sheep, thus the GUYS/GALS to who satisfy the needs of the sheep will NOT come from the status-quo educated elite.


Title: Re: What is your opinion on Bitcoin Cash? Scam, bubble?
Post by: pjhom on November 11, 2017, 04:06:56 AM
Seems like it is in full pump and dump mode.  All the alt coins are down and it is up.  Not a lot of new money coming into the crypto space.  Just moving around.  In chasing the most popular crypto of the day you end up buying at the top.


Title: Re: What is your opinion on Bitcoin Cash? Scam, bubble?
Post by: jbautistangina on November 11, 2017, 04:08:41 AM
The ICO of BitcoinCash was successful thats why the price is getting doubled time by time,the miners are adopting BCH from BTC.


Title: Re: What is your opinion on Bitcoin Cash? Scam, bubble?
Post by: rigel on November 11, 2017, 05:13:25 AM
The ICO of BitcoinCash was successful thats why the price is getting doubled time by time,the miners are adopting BCH from BTC.

ICO?

Do you know what are you talking about?


Title: Re: What is your opinion on Bitcoin Cash? Scam, bubble?
Post by: pinoyden on November 11, 2017, 05:20:59 AM
The ICO of BitcoinCash was successful thats why the price is getting doubled time by time,the miners are adopting BCH from BTC.

ico? wtf, are you high? bitcoincash doesnt have an ico.


Title: Re: What is your opinion on Bitcoin Cash? Scam, bubble?
Post by: KryptoKai on November 11, 2017, 09:38:41 AM
Looks like a classic case of pump and dump. Whales have finished playing with bitcoin so they are now doing it with bitcoin cash. Market manipulation and good for investors if you time it right, but it will be dumped so watch daily and get ready to dump.


Title: Re: What is your opinion on Bitcoin Cash? Scam, bubble?
Post by: sufferer123 on November 11, 2017, 09:46:28 AM
Bitcoin cash is not scam, of course. But it's not a bitcoin at the same time. Because of forking, people are transferred to bitcoincash because they will get free token. Everyone likes the free product, lol. After forking, everything will be back to its old point.


Title: Re: What is your opinion on Bitcoin Cash? Scam, bubble?
Post by: BaliScript on November 11, 2017, 10:24:36 AM
Just had a shock when I saw the chart. I think the supporters of segwit2x are now supporting bcash since the fork is cancelled.


Title: Re: What is your opinion on Bitcoin Cash? Scam, bubble?
Post by: alpsea on November 11, 2017, 11:15:53 AM
I did'nt change my mind about bitcoin cash
I absolutely don't believe and never invest my money
We should'nt believed from the very beginning.


Title: Re: What is your opinion on Bitcoin Cash? Scam, bubble?
Post by: 3x2-2 on November 11, 2017, 11:19:19 AM
There are better alternatives, i still dont understand why people invest in that sh**, if you want to invest then atleast invest in a better tech.


Title: Re: What is your opinion on Bitcoin Cash? Scam, bubble?
Post by: anasso on November 11, 2017, 11:21:17 AM
i think that bitcoin whales and miners are preparing a massive abandon of BTC.

they will jump in BCH and it will skyrocket!


Title: Re: What is your opinion on Bitcoin Cash? Scam, bubble?
Post by: squatter on November 11, 2017, 11:36:54 AM
I don't think so. Miners mine which is most profitable. And for now it is BTC. BTC doesn't scale very well. Transactions getting slower and fee higher.

It'll be interesting to see if some subset of miners ends up mining the 2x chain, further drawing hashrate away from BTC (as the bitcoin2x.org site states). That seems unlikely, but Bitmain is certainly capable of playing games with the hash distribution. A lot of people shrug it off, but I think the recent spam attacks with sustained high fees are having some effect on investors.

Anyway, I'm selling my BCH into this rise..... just sold at $1040-1050. The chart looks really healthy, but there was massive volume today. I'm expecting a correction (which would coincide with a healthy bounce in BTC).


Title: Re: What is your opinion on Bitcoin Cash? Scam, bubble?
Post by: adzino on November 11, 2017, 11:43:17 AM
I think Bitcoin cash is a shitcoin that is using bitcoin's name to make it rise further. I think the rise is just a trap, do not buy into the trap. I
already sold all my Bcash for BTC because Bcash is trying to undermine bitcoin.
It's just an altcoin taking advantage of bitcoin, who keeps on dreaming to take over bitcoin very soon which won't be happening anytime. The price is also just a bubble which will shatter(burst) like its dream.
The ICO of BitcoinCash was successful thats why the price is getting doubled time by time,the miners are adopting BCH from BTC.
Lol. There was no ICO for BitcoinCash. It was created from a fork. Use google before you type shits about the things you don't know.


Title: Re: What is your opinion on Bitcoin Cash? Scam, bubble?
Post by: alyssa85 on November 11, 2017, 12:14:02 PM
I don't think so. Miners mine which is most profitable. And for now it is BTC. BTC doesn't scale very well. Transactions getting slower and fee higher.

It'll be interesting to see if some subset of miners ends up mining the 2x chain, further drawing hashrate away from BTC (as the bitcoin2x.org site states). That seems unlikely, but Bitmain is certainly capable of playing games with the hash distribution. A lot of people shrug it off, but I think the recent spam attacks with sustained high fees are having some effect on investors.

Anyway, I'm selling my BCH into this rise..... just sold at $1040-1050. The chart looks really healthy, but there was massive volume today. I'm expecting a correction (which would coincide with a healthy bounce in BTC).

There isn't going to be a 2x chain - that bitcoin2x site is fake.

Regarding bitcoincash - the previous ATH was about 0.21btc - so I think they're aiming to go past that.


Title: Re: What is your opinion on Bitcoin Cash? Scam, bubble?
Post by: nevermindthebotox on November 11, 2017, 12:18:22 PM
40-50% of 24h BCHvolume coming from one korean exhange:

and yes, pair is BCH-KRW :

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-cash/#markets

oh, and top six has three exhanges with BCH-KRW...


looks legit forming of a value ::)



Title: Re: What is your opinion on Bitcoin Cash? Scam, bubble?
Post by: Patatas on November 11, 2017, 12:34:23 PM
Bitcoin Cash is another name for Trash.The coin which couldn't offer anything like the initial promises and apparently they tried to be better than bitcoin but failed miserably.If I could take one coin out of the altcoin scene,it would be bitcoin cash.That also includes any other coin forked from bitcoin core.


Title: Re: What is your opinion on Bitcoin Cash? Scam, bubble?
Post by: Hammonds on November 11, 2017, 12:44:57 PM
I also think it is a bubble, bch has a very striking rise and I think will go back down again but can not be determined the right time.


Title: Re: What is your opinion on Bitcoin Cash? Scam, bubble?
Post by: Sithara007 on November 11, 2017, 12:49:01 PM
40-50% of 24h BCHvolume coming from one korean exhange:

and yes, pair is BCH-KRW :

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-cash/#markets

oh, and top six has three exhanges with BCH-KRW...


looks legit forming of a value ::)



40% of the volume comes from Bithumb, which is a Korean exchange with signifiant number of Chinese users (especially after the exchange ban in mainland China). But#2 on that list is Bitfinex, which is based in Taiwan (and once again with large number of Chinese users). #3 is the Korean based Coinone, and #4 is the US-based Bittrex.


Title: Re: What is your opinion on Bitcoin Cash? Scam, bubble?
Post by: DevelopmentBank on November 11, 2017, 01:00:33 PM
It seems bitcoin cash introduces block sizes that could be more usable in the real world transactions. But what I really don't like about bitcoin cash is that it goes about upgrading technology in a very hostile and negative way. The people behind it seem like complete tools who are in it for the money. I want my bitcoin unmanipulated and decentralized. Not controlled by some miners who decide changes for everyone.


Title: Re: What is your opinion on Bitcoin Cash? Scam, bubble?
Post by: 1 currency now on November 11, 2017, 04:52:31 PM
I think Bitcoin cash is a shitcoin that is using bitcoin's name to make it rise further. I think the rise is just a trap, do not buy into the trap. I already sold all my Bcash for BTC because Bcash is trying to undermine bitcoin.

https://i.imgur.com/ydsSKV5.png
Bitcoin Cash is pretty much done, there is nobody really trying to flip that coin for anything that has a large price attached to it.


Title: Re: What is your opinion on Bitcoin Cash? Scam, bubble?
Post by: DRVX on November 12, 2017, 08:22:53 PM
I am almost shocked that Bitcoin Cash costs so very much these days. I guess it will be wiser to change it for some other crypto – for instance, Waves, Ethereum Classic, Monero. Maybe BCC is not a bubble, but it will not grow constantly and soon might fall.


Title: Re: What is your opinion on Bitcoin Cash? Scam, bubble?
Post by: South Park on November 12, 2017, 08:51:48 PM
I think Bitcoin cash is a shitcoin that is using bitcoin's name to make it rise further. I think the rise is just a trap, do not buy into the trap. I already sold all my Bcash for BTC because Bcash is trying to undermine bitcoin.

https://i.imgur.com/ydsSKV5.png
It is obvious a bubble many people have been saying that bitcoin is in a bubble despite the fact it took it months to reach this high price, while bitcoin cash reached that amount in a matter of days, that price is not sustainable and I will be surprised if bitcoin cash price was able to remain above 1000 dollars.


Title: Re: What is your opinion on Bitcoin Cash? Scam, bubble?
Post by: Legendari on November 12, 2017, 08:56:30 PM
It seems to me that bitcoin is money is a bubble now and it will never replace bitcoin.


Title: Re: What is your opinion on Bitcoin Cash? Scam, bubble?
Post by: CoinPowerProject on November 12, 2017, 09:42:49 PM
I think Bitcoin Cash has future and will equally used as Bitcoin , maybe more


Title: Re: What is your opinion on Bitcoin Cash? Scam, bubble?
Post by: winkywobble on November 13, 2017, 09:48:08 AM
I can tell all right now BTrash is a SCAM.   

 https://pastebin.com/n0aGBMQr  - This was posted THREE months before today. Nobody could have forseen the exact events that have unfolded three months ago.
 They are attempting a hostile takeover of Bitcoin.  The Bitcoin mempool has been spammed for days, and Roger Ver himself has been dumping 1000's of BTC on Bitfinex and buying Btrash. Do NOT buy Bitcoin Cash, hold onto your Bitcoin for dear life. If you don't believe me, go look at all the comments on his Twitter posts. People know whats up and they're angry!  I was banned from bitcoin.com for pointing this out. There are shills everywhere there.  Also go look up Roger Ver's criminal history, and his friend who claims he's the real Satoshi. Go watch his friend (Craig Write) cussing and getting defensive on youtube, that is definitely NOT the real Satoshi.

FAIR WARNING PEOPLE. I suggest you tell everyone who will listen, this is a fight for the future of Bitcoin and Crypto's as a whole!


Title: Re: What is your opinion on Bitcoin Cash? Scam, bubble?
Post by: sgenuine on November 15, 2017, 01:42:13 PM
No one can call this alt scam or bubble – people manage to earn on it, and even this fact proves that Bitcoin cash is also a cryptocurrency that interests many investors. Anyway its price for now is higher than it must be.


Title: Re: What is your opinion on Bitcoin Cash? Scam, bubble?
Post by: rajuahmed330 on November 15, 2017, 02:12:40 PM
Just had a shock when I saw the chart. I think the supporters of segwit2x are now supporting bcash since the fork is cancelled.
I was also surprised at you when I went to coinmarketcap and saw the price of Bitcoin Cash about 2500 USD.
It is really a matter of surprise that suddenly its price has increased so much.


Title: Re: What is your opinion on Bitcoin Cash? Scam, bubble?
Post by: Ertetert on November 15, 2017, 02:24:22 PM
Its just economics. Think of original BTC and BTC cash as of two competing companies. If one of them drives prices up then second one gets more customers.

BTC has too damn high commissions. For actual trade other altcoins are better and their market slowly rising. But some of them may randomly spike causing greater fool market cascade.


Title: Re: What is your opinion on Bitcoin Cash? Scam, bubble?
Post by: ZhuldyzKaladinova on November 15, 2017, 02:25:20 PM
I think Bitcoin cash is a shitcoin that is using bitcoin's name to make it rise further. I think the rise is just a trap, do not buy into the trap. I already sold all my Bcash for BTC because Bcash is trying to undermine bitcoin.

I share the same opinion.  It's definitely a shit-coin and their plot was/is utterly ridiculous.


Title: Re: What is your opinion on Bitcoin Cash? Scam, bubble?
Post by: kaeluxdeuz on November 15, 2017, 02:29:37 PM
I could agree with the above statements - BitcoinCash is a bubble, and soon about to pop! We've seen it happen before... think about it... I mean if Bitcoin can go from almost $8K to $6K in half a night, whats going to stop BCash from crashing too?


Title: Re: What is your opinion on Bitcoin Cash? Scam, bubble?
Post by: Jhon3438 on November 15, 2017, 02:41:43 PM
For me btc is not a scam because it defends on how you use it and on how you get btc token because there are some project is scam and other are just a frank so for me it is not a scam.


Title: Re: What is your opinion on Bitcoin Cash? Scam, bubble?
Post by: slavosme on November 15, 2017, 03:35:52 PM
Both Scam and bubble.

https://blog.bitmex.com/bitcoin-cash-futures-now-live/

STRONG SELL before zero value


Title: Re: What is your opinion on Bitcoin Cash? Scam, bubble?
Post by: iLatios on November 15, 2017, 03:41:16 PM
As for me, BCH is a wonderful bonus for those who own Bitcoin. Imagine you have got some Bitcoins and you earn the same amount of BCH for free. It's like to make a fortune or inherit something!


Title: Re: What is your opinion on Bitcoin Cash? Scam, bubble?
Post by: pageraji on November 15, 2017, 03:44:59 PM
i think its another son of bitcoin , when bitcoin drop is rise, just another way to exchange when price get fluktuatif, but i dont have any bitcoin cash..


Title: Re: What is your opinion on Bitcoin Cash? Scam, bubble?
Post by: ZhuldyzKaladinova on November 15, 2017, 04:14:46 PM
i think its another son of bitcoin

'Bitcoin' Cash is absolutely not a 'son of bitcoin'. It's a parasitic shitcoin that steals the name.


Title: Re: What is your opinion on Bitcoin Cash? Scam, bubble?
Post by: sconklin321 on November 15, 2017, 04:18:25 PM
Perhaps most of this forum thinks Bitcoin Cash is a balloon and I think that it is a fair share of justice. Because he still can not prove himself. Brand awareness does not seem too high.


Title: Re: What is your opinion on Bitcoin Cash? Scam, bubble?
Post by: Marvell1 on November 15, 2017, 04:21:53 PM
I think it's conspiracy. BCH supporters have decided to try to shift BTC from top-1. As I know they've made huge amount of fake transactions with big fees to prevent the confirmation of "normal" transactions an BTC network recently. So it looks like some kind of scam.


Title: Re: What is your opinion on Bitcoin Cash? Scam, bubble?
Post by: Vaskiy on November 15, 2017, 04:42:00 PM
i think its another son of bitcoin

'Bitcoin' Cash is absolutely not a 'son of bitcoin'. It's a parasitic shitcoin that steals the name.
That's not fair, bitcoin cash got into existence from main chain. There are several other altcoins that carry the name of bitcoin but those doesn't gained the market same as bitcoin cash. The growth seems to be partially real as it is right now stabilizing.


Title: Re: What is your opinion on Bitcoin Cash? Scam, bubble?
Post by: Gosha.day on November 15, 2017, 05:33:13 PM
Too many bitcoin forks
Support BTC
Boycott BCC


Title: Re: What is your opinion on Bitcoin Cash? Scam, bubble?
Post by: dunfida on November 15, 2017, 05:36:24 PM
I think Bitcoin cash is a shitcoin that is using bitcoin's name to make it rise further. I think the rise is just a trap, do not buy into the trap. I already sold all my Bcash for BTC because Bcash is trying to undermine bitcoin.

https://i.imgur.com/ydsSKV5.png
Its not totally a shitcoin since its still being traded and there are still some people who do make engagement with it but only on the purpose of making money not totally changing their loyalty to bitcoin. Bitcoin cash isn't a shitcoin considering and looking on its price we can say that it is capable but not totally enough to make names or even surpass bitcoin because this thing is really just an another altcoin in the market which you can possible get it or trade with it so that you would able to make money on its moving prices.


Title: Re: What is your opinion on Bitcoin Cash? Scam, bubble?
Post by: th3nolo on November 15, 2017, 06:44:26 PM
It has been interesting to see that BCC's rise was inversely proportional to BTC which had its brief fall, this showed the market's movement due to the refusal to accept the hard fork of segwit2x, which led to the exit of large investors in disagreement with not accept the update of BTC, however there must be another reason as a cause in the rise of BCC because its price stabilized and bitcoin recovered (currently with an uptrend).


Title: Re: What is your opinion on Bitcoin Cash? Scam, bubble?
Post by: South Park on November 15, 2017, 11:47:44 PM
Bitcoin Cash is another name for Trash.The coin which couldn't offer anything like the initial promises and apparently they tried to be better than bitcoin but failed miserably.If I could take one coin out of the altcoin scene,it would be bitcoin cash.That also includes any other coin forked from bitcoin core.
I would like to do that as well, but it seems some people are falling in the scam, it is a shame but some people are actually buying BCH at these high prices, I do not think those that bought when bitcoin cash reached its peak are ever going to be able to get profits or to break even.