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Title: What will happen when BTC will get closer to 21M?!
Post by: Cartman720 on November 11, 2017, 10:27:26 AM
Hi Guys!

Recently I was thinking what will happen after 21M limit reaches?!

Whole bitcoin decentralization relies on miners, who compute for our transactions and so, but they should have their profit in that, cause nobody won't work for free ;)
As far as the limit getting closer the mining starting to be slow and profit is getting to be less.

I guess sooner or later a lot of miners will move to other cryptocurrencies like ETH and so, even if some non-profit organization take care about mining process the whole meaning of the decentralization will disappear.

I think there is no Bitcoin bubble in that meaning like was for dot.com (though for other currencies there is bubble IMHO:)), because the whole meaning of Bitcoin is anonymity and this is very important thing for humans in the our era, which means that even if Bitcoin reaches to the 21M there won't be significant deflation, but my concern is that as far that number getting closer as mining will become less profitable and miners will drop this useful and great process!

Hope I am wrong, because Bitcoin is great project!


Title: Re: What will happen when BTC will get closer to 21M?!
Post by: Xavofat on November 11, 2017, 10:35:22 AM
This is why we have a search function on the forum.  So that you don't have to make a collection of outrageously stupid assumptions based on a lack of knowledge.
As far as the limit getting closer the mining starting to be slow
The difficulty is adjusted every 2016 blocks so that a block is still mined approximately every 10 minutes.  So the "speed" will always be approximately the same.
and profit is getting to be less.
If some miners leave, the difficulty adjusts so that mining would still be profitable for the people that remain.
I guess sooner or later a lot of miners will move to other cryptocurrencies like ETH and so
ETH is ASIC-resistant and uses a different mining algorithm.  They would have to buy new hardware.
the whole meaning of Bitcoin is anonymity
Read the whitepaper.


Title: Re: What will happen when BTC will get closer to 21M?!
Post by: Hexcolyte on November 11, 2017, 10:39:44 AM
When the entire supply of Bitcoin has been mined, the miners have to rely on the transaction fee as the only source of profit. So maybe at that time the transaction fee will be way higher than now because the miners have earn more than their expenses. But there might be technology which allow faster and fairer mining method, who knows :P


Title: Re: What will happen when BTC will get closer to 21M?!
Post by: ViceOfBTC21 on November 11, 2017, 10:57:44 AM
Recently I was thinking what will happen after 21M limit reaches?!

This is very far future (2140), but I can try to predict.

The miners will be still needed but they will earn only transaction fees so most of them will move up to mining another PoW cryptocurrencies. If the miner is powerful enough for another crypto, then yes, they will mine it. If no cryptocurrencies will be that you can mine with this miner or miners will be too weak, then they will sell miners. Also the difficulty changes every 2016 blocks so remaining miners MAYBE can stay profitable. We can't predict that.


Title: Re: What will happen when BTC will get closer to 21M?!
Post by: Cartman720 on November 11, 2017, 11:05:28 AM
Yep of course it is too far, but speed of transactions getting slower and slower, right now there is no any fork for that.
Segwit2x isn't accepted by mostly of all exchanges so who knows what will happen with all this ecosystem.

then they will sell miners.

That's how deflation happens :)
All will start sell their hardware and price will go down for hardware, but no many people will buy them.


Title: Re: What will happen when BTC will get closer to 21M?!
Post by: Pa1n on November 11, 2017, 11:17:15 AM
Totally people get crazy :D Limit boundiries can push higher and higher no limit for BTC :D


Title: Re: What will happen when BTC will get closer to 21M?!
Post by: duongdaiduong on November 11, 2017, 11:19:44 AM
The Bitcoin price will be very high as the supply of Bitcoin is limited and the ownership of 1BTC at that time will be very difficult.


Title: Re: What will happen when BTC will get closer to 21M?!
Post by: Cartman720 on November 11, 2017, 11:22:09 AM
Totally people get crazy :D Limit boundiries can push higher and higher no limit for BTC :D

You are right :) anything created by human can be changed by human!  ;)


Title: Re: What will happen when BTC will get closer to 21M?!
Post by: Cartman720 on November 11, 2017, 11:29:10 AM
The Bitcoin price will be very high as the supply of Bitcoin is limited and the ownership of 1BTC at that time will be very difficult.

Yes you are right, in my opinion the blockchain and decentralization will exist, but not all people will find attractive to use, only those ones who have to keep their identity. Will they be good or bad people that is other question ;)

Problem is that whole system relies on miners and if they don't find profit they will leave system, though history shows that catastrophic situations from films (like all machines will rise against humans) don't happen.
During the time ASIC miners will become cheaper according to Moor's law, which is great!


Title: Re: What will happen when BTC will get closer to 21M?!
Post by: Xervo on November 11, 2017, 11:35:13 AM

I think when the miners collect all 21 million bitcoins, the price for them will start to grow very much. The owners of bitcoins will begin to dictate their terms for sale and it will be similar to an auction


Title: Re: What will happen when BTC will get closer to 21M?!
Post by: dificanovi on November 11, 2017, 11:38:04 AM
it's a very high prediction for the current bitcoin, it is not possible in the near future the bitcoin will go up that far. I think bitcoin rises as high as that in 2050. if we meet at such a high bitcoin price, I think the poor are gone.


Title: Re: What will happen when BTC will get closer to 21M?!
Post by: sofi@ on November 11, 2017, 11:42:39 AM
If bitcoin will reach it maximum limit in supply the value will surely increase so that bitcoin will become available in the market and continue to be part of the circulation also if that happens a lot of alt coins can possibly increase in value and gets a high demand because people needs to divert their market. I don't if this will be a good thing about bitcoin but I think we are closer to the day that all bitcoin will be mine and distributed around the world.


Title: Re: What will happen when BTC will get closer to 21M?!
Post by: noictib on November 11, 2017, 11:56:29 AM
Hi Guys!

Recently I was thinking what will happen after 21M limit reaches?!

Whole bitcoin decentralization relies on miners, who compute for our transactions and so, but they should have their profit in that, cause nobody won't work for free ;)
As far as the limit getting closer the mining starting to be slow and profit is getting to be less.

I guess sooner or later a lot of miners will move to other cryptocurrencies like ETH and so, even if some non-profit organization take care about mining process the whole meaning of the decentralization will disappear.

I think there is no Bitcoin bubble in that meaning like was for dot.com (though for other currencies there is bubble IMHO:)), because the whole meaning of Bitcoin is anonymity and this is very important thing for humans in the our era, which means that even if Bitcoin reaches to the 21M there won't be significant deflation, but my concern is that as far that number getting closer as mining will become less profitable and miners will drop this useful and great process!

Hope I am wrong, because Bitcoin is great project!
I don't think any new Change we will see than what we are seeing in the bitcoin . In these days the demand of the bitcoin getting high and supply is going down . But as the time will spent more and more then with that time demand will get like fiat currency in the local world . I means to say that price of the bitcoin will increase constantly and the transaction fee will play a big roll in that case when no mining will happen , frommthe Google source I found that after the stop of 21 M supply , the fee will be goes directly to miners for the transaction and no one system will work between the another system of bitcoin network , so in that time the person have bitcoin will grow his money value easily by doing nothing than hold in Wallet.


Title: Re: What will happen when BTC will get closer to 21M?!
Post by: richmcrich on November 20, 2017, 02:34:52 PM
it's a very high prediction for the current bitcoin, it is not possible in the near future the bitcoin will go up that far. I think bitcoin rises as high as that in 2050. if we meet at such a high bitcoin price, I think the poor are gone.
It will happen soon in future, the speed which bitcoin is showing in raising its price is much more and is predicting that it has much to achieve yet and its not the end. People are getting more into it its worth is getting high due to the increasing numbers of investors in the market who are increasing its demand


Title: Re: What will happen when BTC will get closer to 21M?!
Post by: whitemacna on January 07, 2018, 03:26:26 PM
Totally people get crazy Limit boundiries can push higher and higher no limit for BTC
Problem is that whole system relies on miners and if they don't find profit they will leave system, though history shows that catastrophic situations from films (like all machines will rise against humans) don't happen.During the time ASIC miners will become cheaper according to Moor's law, which is great!


Title: Re: What will happen when BTC will get closer to 21M?!
Post by: NABILA AKTER SHILA on March 28, 2018, 01:36:23 PM
Bitcoin prices will increase rapidly when BTC gets closer to 21m. Then Bitcoin authorities will sell their condition and call it auction. Bitcoin will be used worldwide. People will use Bitcoin in general. According to the needs of the people get Bitcoin in the market.


Title: Re: What will happen when BTC will get closer to 21M?!
Post by: Thanasis on March 28, 2018, 01:42:50 PM
Bitcoin prices will increase rapidly when BTC gets closer to 21m. Then Bitcoin authorities will sell their condition and call it auction. Bitcoin will be used worldwide. People will use Bitcoin in general. According to the needs of the people get Bitcoin in the market.
Who is that bitcoin authority?

Bitcoin is an decentralized technology so no one can own it and when reaches that 21M of bitcoins the price maybe high because as per the calculation last bitcoin will be mined at 2140.So that time most of the people will be using if bitcoin says until so the price also will be high.But after that also the same process but miners will be getting rewarded only through transaction fees.


Title: Re: What will happen when BTC will get closer to 21M?!
Post by: jack8989 on March 28, 2018, 04:03:15 PM
Bitcoin prices will increase rapidly when BTC gets closer to 21m. Then Bitcoin authorities will sell their condition and call it auction. Bitcoin will be used worldwide. People will use Bitcoin in general. According to the needs of the people get Bitcoin in the market.
I do not think that. Bitcoins are not available for sale because no one runs them. The person who created it is said to have died and no one can decipher the bitcoin. But I can assure you that the bitcoin will never cost $ 21m. That's an unrealistic number and the sharks can not pump the price of such high bitcoin.


Title: Re: What will happen when BTC will get closer to 21M?!
Post by: Netnox on March 28, 2018, 04:25:12 PM
Just relax... we are a long way off.. The maximum limit will be reached by 2140, and none of us will be alive by then. If Bitcoin survives that long, then I guess Satoshi, rather than BTC or mBTC will be the preferred denomination for doing transactions.


Title: Re: What will happen when BTC will get closer to 21M?!
Post by: ranochigo on March 28, 2018, 04:29:00 PM
As the supply decreases, the transaction fee would increase to compensate for that. It does not mean that the transaction fee per size would increase given the possible optimizations to the protocol. It would most likely hit an equilibrium and most miners would still be mining on it with their ROI'd ASICs.

Its also very possible that the decrease in supply would result in the upward pressure on the price and thus the price would likely be hovering at even higher prices. Obviously this is hypothetical and it would largely depend on the attractiveness of Bitcoin to the general public.


Title: Re: What will happen when BTC will get closer to 21M?!
Post by: mOgliE on March 29, 2018, 07:41:16 AM
Hi,

I guess that once the limit is reached, miners will be paid differently.

For the moment, they have a chance to get a part of what has been mined... Well, they could get a part of what has been exchanged.

Anyway (and this is already true), in most Western countries today no individual mines, because the price of electricity is too high compared with what can be earned. So I guess that we don't have to worry for the large mining compagnies!


Title: Re: What will happen when BTC will get closer to 21M?!
Post by: Xester on March 29, 2018, 07:45:44 AM
If the miners have already mined all blocks and bitcoin reaches 21 million then miners can no longer mine bitcoins. But instead of mining bitcoin blocks they will be processing bitcoin transactions and confirming it. This kind of activity is not new since it was launched few years ago to avoid double spending of bitcoins. Thus after the 21 million will be mined, miners will be focusing on confirming transactions and they will be paid for it and we call it miners fee.


Title: Re: What will happen when BTC will get closer to 21M?!
Post by: Bitcionsky69 on March 29, 2018, 08:32:00 AM
Hi Guys!

Recently I was thinking what will happen after 21M limit reaches?!

Whole bitcoin decentralization relies on miners, who compute for our transactions and so, but they should have their profit in that, cause nobody won't work for free ;)
As far as the limit getting closer the mining starting to be slow and profit is getting to be less.

I guess sooner or later a lot of miners will move to other cryptocurrencies like ETH and so, even if some non-profit organization take care about mining process the whole meaning of the decentralization will disappear.

I think there is no Bitcoin bubble in that meaning like was for dot.com (though for other currencies there is bubble IMHO:)), because the whole meaning of Bitcoin is anonymity and this is very important thing for humans in the our era, which means that even if Bitcoin reaches to the 21M there won't be significant deflation, but my concern is that as far that number getting closer as mining will become less profitable and miners will drop this useful and great process!

Hope I am wrong, because Bitcoin is great project!
Just say the word supply the demand and demand of supply? I still beleave that the cryptocurrencies process will not change. And i know there is a way for such expansions and the fear of some will not happen just what will happen if the total ot bitcoin is ever hit.


Title: Re: What will happen when BTC will get closer to 21M?!
Post by: DBronze98 on March 29, 2018, 08:37:08 AM
I think it's nearing its limit that will be good news for everyone. Try to own as many Bitcoins as you can, as the number of Bitcoin owners is increasing, but the number of Bitcoins is close to the limit. So in the future Bitcoin reaches the threshold, Bitcoin prices will increase dramatically.


Title: Re: What will happen when BTC will get closer to 21M?!
Post by: Roukawa on March 29, 2018, 08:45:59 AM
Hi Guys!

Recently I was thinking what will happen after 21M limit reaches?!

Whole bitcoin decentralization relies on miners, who compute for our transactions and so, but they should have their profit in that, cause nobody won't work for free ;)
As far as the limit getting closer the mining starting to be slow and profit is getting to be less.

I guess sooner or later a lot of miners will move to other cryptocurrencies like ETH and so, even if some non-profit organization take care about mining process the whole meaning of the decentralization will disappear.

I think there is no Bitcoin bubble in that meaning like was for dot.com (though for other currencies there is bubble IMHO:)), because the whole meaning of Bitcoin is anonymity and this is very important thing for humans in the our era, which means that even if Bitcoin reaches to the 21M there won't be significant deflation, but my concern is that as far that number getting closer as mining will become less profitable and miners will drop this useful and great process!

Hope I am wrong, because Bitcoin is great project!
2140, the projected year that the whole bitcoin supply will be mined. As of now, it does not a big problem because aroung 16 million of bitcoins are circulating in our economy and every 4 years there is a difficulty in mining every blocks of bitcoin.
If time will come and all of bitcoins were circulated in our economy, it is possible that miners will move to altcoins but they must change also their hardwares because bitcoin mining processor is different from others. And maybe, miners will just add a transaction fees if ever it will happe. Anyway, that is the problem of the 22nd century people.


Title: Re: What will happen when BTC will get closer to 21M?!
Post by: charlotte04 on March 29, 2018, 08:55:16 AM
Hi Guys!

Recently I was thinking what will happen after 21M limit reaches?!

Whole bitcoin decentralization relies on miners, who compute for our transactions and so, but they should have their profit in that, cause nobody won't work for free ;)
As far as the limit getting closer the mining starting to be slow and profit is getting to be less.

I guess sooner or later a lot of miners will move to other cryptocurrencies like ETH and so, even if some non-profit organization take care about mining process the whole meaning of the decentralization will disappear.

I think there is no Bitcoin bubble in that meaning like was for dot.com (though for other currencies there is bubble IMHO:)), because the whole meaning of Bitcoin is anonymity and this is very important thing for humans in the our era, which means that even if Bitcoin reaches to the 21M there won't be significant deflation, but my concern is that as far that number getting closer as mining will become less profitable and miners will drop this useful and great process!

Hope I am wrong, because Bitcoin is great project!

I think when that day comes people will tend to Hold their Bitcoins since there will be no more to be mined and it will be priceless.


Title: Re: What will happen when BTC will get closer to 21M?!
Post by: ThisIsUserName on March 30, 2018, 07:55:08 PM
I think BTC will die and a new blockchain can change all!


Title: Re: What will happen when BTC will get closer to 21M?!
Post by: ipuy on March 30, 2018, 08:08:58 PM
I think if bitcoin has reached max supply it will be more expensive, because peoples want to collect it by trading. It will be a chance for altcoin that for a pair trade with.


Title: Re: What will happen when BTC will get closer to 21M?!
Post by: Daveeoff on March 30, 2018, 08:17:24 PM
This won't be happening anytime soon. Bitcoin probably will get replaced by another cryptocurrency sooner than that.


Title: Re: What will happen when BTC will get closer to 21M?!
Post by: senin on March 30, 2018, 08:49:44 PM
The Bitcoin price will be very high as the supply of Bitcoin is limited and the ownership of 1BTC at that time will be very difficult.
What will happen to the price of bitcoin, when it will be extracted all 21 million, this has always been a contentious issue. Many say that its price will rise, as its offer will be severely limited. However, the question arises: who will need a very high cost bitcoin, if by that time there will be many promising digital coins of low value that will yield a much larger profit than bitcoin? Do not forget about the volatility of bitcoin, which is likely to be even higher than now. If bitcoin will fall by 40-60 percent in its value, then someday it can provoke a big panic and bitcoin in a short time simply depreciate. Are investors ready to invest large sums in bitcoin, then to worry about its course?


Title: Re: What will happen when BTC will get closer to 21M?!
Post by: Dread Pirate Roberts on March 30, 2018, 08:58:16 PM
it's still long way process for it . and seems to be economically system. high demand low supply will implement and the price will continue to rise until there is no more btc made and the price will continue to rise as demand increases. and all there is no miner anymore just traders make the market more active.


Title: Re: What will happen when BTC will get closer to 21M?!
Post by: bncbnc on March 30, 2018, 09:00:28 PM
I think if bitcoin has reached max supply it will be more expensive, because peoples want to collect it by trading. It will be a chance for altcoin that for a pair trade with.
I think that the people are already doing preparation for that, they are now saving their bitcoins and trying not to sell it, because they know the importance of bitcoin and hope that bitcoin price will very reach to moon because of the unavailability of bitcoin in market, people will even try to buy bitcoin on black and will be ready to buy it at any price but still they will find it hard to buy bitcoin.


Title: Re: What will happen when BTC will get closer to 21M?!
Post by: Dread Pirate Roberts on April 01, 2018, 10:45:29 PM
This won't be happening anytime soon. Bitcoin probably will get replaced by another cryptocurrency sooner than that.

It is impossible. bitcoin will always be the main currency of crypto. and the recognition of 21 million supply is still very much to say by continuing to grow with large mining can reach in 2100+ new can reach max supply. it is unlikely that the one currently living here is alive or not.