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I would like to get involved in any groups or campaigns which might be raising awareness of the truth behind the current attempt of BCH to takeover BTC, and how BCH is fundamentally a scam, or at best, a centralised coin.

Other than the obvious posting on Reddit and Twitter, does anyone here know where I should go to optimise my efforts to raise awareness for newbies?

Cheers

bitcoin boat has abandoned , they all move to bch , sooner or later bch will reach btc prize and vice verza  8)

worrying  ???

Most people really wouldn't care. They hold equal amounts of Bitcoin Cash and Bitcoin, so price appreciation benefits them.
In any case, this forum will be sanitized of any Bitcoin Cash supporting campaigns, unless they are restricted to the altcoin board. So no danger here.

whales already accumulated tons of bitcoin cash at 600$ per bch even roger ver i think has tons of holding bch, this is clearly a whale game, once this hype is done watch how they will dump their bch again pity to those who will buy at  this bch hype

So true mate! I got to know about the situation and know that the whales are pumping the price. They just created a hype in the market saying that Bitcoin cash will be the next Bitcoin and this hype has influenced many users. Pretty sure it will never reach upto Bitcoins price and will dump really hard kicking everbody's asses out. I hope it does! Bitcoin has been the legend and must remain the same forever.

Keep telling yourself this!  lol.   Too bad you didn't understand that the real scam is SegWit coin.  Keep on HODLING your BTC!!!  lol.  

Maybe if you use all CAPS when you call BCH a scam, people will believe you more.

Why all caps when you can make a  bold statement (no pun intended) easily with all lowercase letters

Why do you hate caps so much?  Besides, you have to be a computer hacker to figure out the codes to do that shit.  With Caps, you just use the shift key.  No complex codes.

Does BCH support Segwit?

Even though 2x is called off, doesn't Segwit in combination with Rootstock allow for a massive scale in transactions?
So basically in a couple of month BTC will be capable of becoming a real currency for everyone and not only a store of value!?

Why do you think bch is a fraud? I do not think so. The evidence is that it survived. and still quite hot. BCH is a long story. let's see. That is my opinion. I just comment :-\ :-\

some fair points there. I was getting worried, but now am a bit less, for myself anyway. I reckon that the BCH rhetoric and pump is just well timed with the long expected BTC correction, to try to convince noobs that there is a BCH flippenning which is causing the BTC 'crash'/correction. It isn't.

i laugh when people say "what group can i join to do X"
its like asking what cabin can i trap myself in and circle jerk the same thoughts to others who think the same. whereby the outside world hears nothing.

but to answer the OP's question. he can suck eggs with core devs if he really wants to circle jerk the narrow mindset.

P.S if you really idolise decentralisation avoid joining core, avoid grouping yourself together in a small part of the internet, avoid trying to control the narrative with propaganda campaigns and instead spend your time actually learning what things are

Do you really think that is what is happening?
Just a little bump to the price of the coin you are supporting and you are already a full pledged BCH supporter?
I hope you are better than that.
You are supporting a controlled coin and anytime you might see yourself broke if they dump it.
Go put all your funds there if you really have the balls to do it.
Leave bitcoin please.

BCH go tothemoon. BTC down. I will buy BTC on 4500$

while I'm not into BCH and I sold all my share at the beginning , I still don't know why some people try to call it scam
where is the scam with it ?? it wasn't premine and if you were btc holder you already got your share so people didn't even pay for it in the past ??

I started to feel like some people are regretting that they sold their share early and now they are shocked with the price , cause you can call BCH whatever you want but not scam at all !!

Bcash is not a scam, it's a shitcoin that uses a lot of well timed manipulation, shills and fomo. The team exists out of a few corrupted money and powerhungry head-figures in the BTC world that want a decentralized coin and they are capable of manipulating the masses with blatant lies on a lot of official channels.

Personally I'm not worried that BCC will take the place of BTC, I am sure that this will not happen. You know why? BCC is a centralized coin. This is enough to understand that the BCC is trash.

4500$ won't happen, you should be happy if we go down to 5000$ in the coming one or two weeks before the uptrend starts again.

If the 2x camp dumps enough BTC, the previous post fork target may be revised downward, could see 3000$

Once the miners start jumping ship for real BTC will have few blocks mined a day and 2x camp won't even have to spam transactions anymore. There will be an enormous selling pressure which will be exacerbated by slow transaction times.

There is also a chance of a rewrite attack of the weaker chain, this is the nuke of the cryptoworld. If it happens everybody will be scared of any coin.   

Bitcoin needs to invest in Media. I have several times experienced bad things happening to good people due to lack of investment in media. Media and Lies are why the crooks thrive easily. Here are some advice that could help:
* Invest heavily in media.
* Counter every one of their lies and propaganda. Never leave the community in the dark.
*  They fight very nasty and hardly give up. Fight nasty too but covertly. Try to be civil publicly.
*  Always anticipate their next attacks and fix all vulnerability that may be exploited.
* Brainstorm on important matters.
*  Unite the community more. Don't tolerate any form of divisiveness.

* Continue  negotiating with reasonable rivals secretly . Provide them with offers they can't easily resist even protection from crooks may be important , sometimes the rivals are being blackmail to act against the community.

* Don't tolerate  disloyalty,  lawlessness, bribery, lies and propaganda at this critical moment.

Absulutely false bud. This was they same situation last September when the first fork was launch. Everybody was in chaos when btc was dropping. But surprisingly bitcoin was able to recover and even hit the $7000 mark. No wonder bitcoin will increase again in few days.

It's a matter of great concern. But I think Bitcoin is not a cash scam. Because it is actually because of Bitcoin Fork. So it's really hard to say that Bitcoin Cash Scam So it is necessary to study without hearing anything.

BCH is not a scam. A scam is telling others bch is a scam just because you don't like the coin. If you don't like the coin, don't buy it. I am not a whale, but nothing stopped anyone from accumulating. I bought some $300. The truth is that people need to stop listening to stupid advice. BCH has better fundamentals than most coins. People must realise bch is here to stay.

I do not agree, al exchanges are running on BTC and this fact can not change without them changing to BCH in concert.
dont see this happening. + we must not forget what Bitcoin has done for us, if we do it will be a big mistake.

just imagine that BTC will fall what trust can we have in any coin?

When do you think it will be dump?

Legacy Bitcoin is the true sham.

Bitcoin Cash has now surpassed Ethereum in Market cap!

https://twitter.com/BitCoinBCH/status/929557140796329985

None at all. You are correct there is no way we can be 100% sure that btc core is not going to turn out scam, but since it's the first coin people tend to lean towards it. I think at this point it's best if you are holding both BCH and BTC. I never sold my BCH after the fork, I was planing to sell now but I think I am going to wait this out.

BCH is a whale game, just hold tight to your real bitcoin and don't get duped into donating your coin.

You have to consider that bitcoin is worth what it is because of 8 years of adoption across the globe.  Once the games end then bch will get dumped hard because at the end of the day there is nothing you can actually do with it.

BCH was made for hype and speculation for the most part. Roger Ver isn't "Bitcoin Jesus". He is just a rich person who exploits the market as strong as he can. Fundamental value of BCH isn't stronger than original BTC for sure. They timed it now because there is no certain plan for BTC right now. They will pump it and than dump it. Just my opinion.

Perhaps we cannot call Bitcoin Cash as a scam, because it wasn't swindling money from anyone, and the truth it gave an equally amount for anyone who own Bitcoin.

What ever the reason of Bitcoin Cash drastic soaring value are cannot be tell by anyone. If you own BTC during the fork, you definitely enjoying now.   

Yeah, they don't swindle, but if you lose your money the feeling is the same.


The way i look at it, it is somewhat a bait, any trader can interpret it and don't bite them for long term, its an aggressive attempt

No you don't Sir - you don't get to call the price - BTC has already gone up.  You have missed the boat !!

i agree i will hold on to my BTC...one problem must be solved before we all lose out...this chinees miners are tempering with our btc infrastructure...we should block them from mining BTC and give others a chance..this mining centralisation is bad news

looks like I touched a nerve... get your emotions in check and form a rational basis for discussion please. thanks.

I'm not idolising decentralisation. I simply recognise that it is possibly the most valuable characteristic to cryptocurrencies. To my mind, it is valuable because it prevents an individual or small group (cartel) from controlling it for their own means. Even if starting out with a hypothetical benevolent and trustworthy noble 'president', who has allot of control over what happens to the coin, as well as the mining, BCH will always be at risk, as that 'president' could be compromised, corrupted, or usurped. If that happens, and in time it always does inevitably given time (see fiat currencies!), then the currency looses its trustworthiness and value. 

Decentralised mining is even more important than decentralised leadership. Without decentralisation of mining, there's not actually any point to having a blockchain. You might as well just print a finite number of coins which are then run from a centralised server, like Ripple, which does fairly well for such purposes.

For these reasons, I would prefer Bitcoin Gold ideally, though its dev team seems to be too inexperienced at the moment. I actually consider BTC ASIC mining to be too centralised.



It's scammy because they are trying so hard to convince newcomers to buy into it as either the original Bitcoin, or the inevitable replacement of BTC, whereas in truth, it's a forked copy of bitcoin, with an entirely different team. Bitcoin Gold, on the other hand, are not trying to claim the 'Bitcoin' brand as it were, nor, unlike BCH, are they actively trying to attack BTC and confuse people as the BCH camp have obviously been doing. That's the difference between a friendly fork and a hostile fork. The guys running BCH are deliberately trying to mislead people. Had it not been for such underhanded tactics I might not be so against it! (I also hate r/Bitcoin as it's way to tightly moderated)

This is even worse with SegwitBitcoin. They are trying so hard to convince everyone that it is the original Bitcoin, yet, the team behind it has nothing to do with the original bitcoin, and they have made much greater changes to the protocol (than BCH).

And what segwit will lead to is Lightning Network. Lightning network will allow centralized hubs (banks) to make accounts and transactions for you, and the banks will settle on the blockchain.
So in essence, everyone will be robbed of the blockchain, because it will be for banks. Your account will then be controlled, regulated and censored.
Goodby freedom and decentralization.

And some people have the audacity to call this the original bitcoin. Its preposterous.

You can start here by actually stating a case!
How is Bitcoin cash trying to take over Bitcoin? I can see that they would like to take over from Bitcoin as the top cryptocurrency, but they can't take over Bitcoin...

To me Bitcoin cash is what it is. It is an Alt but it is also probably what Bitcoin should have become. Paying $20 to spend my Bitcoin isn't much fun. Basically whenever the mempool gets too full, Bitcoin Cash will look more attractive.

I don't think that Bitcoin Cash will ever take over from Bitcoin, but people buy it due to deficiencies in Bitcoin.

Or am I wrong?

thanks for the concern, but it is very obvious that bch is a total scam, i dont know why do people believe in this altcoin, or just because more and more investors are switching in bch just to get more profits in a smartest ways.  ;D then the other newbie are just following the flow that do not know what they really doing. for me i hate altcoins from the fork, they are just want to be rich by copying the others.

BHC Scam 8)
centralized with owners and promoters that are lyers and traitors.
they pump it around 2.2k and then they start dumping it, the scammers that they are.
the nubies that started buying around 1.7k are played by the scammers.

BCH has become a scam. Since its price growth is overhyped by those who already profited many also engaged into BCH and when the price drop many has lost their investments.

Bitcoin cash is actually a hard fork introduced by a group to give a hard competition to bitcoin, but truly its not a scam, it is a digital currency trying to make its way smooth to success and will try hard to take the throne from bitcoin, but my personal opinion is that it would not be able to replace bitcoin because bitcoin is more promising and is providing good chances to the investors