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Title: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: frankbitcoin on November 11, 2017, 09:42:17 PM
what the heck is going on?  https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: sebastianpenguen on November 11, 2017, 09:43:18 PM
what the heck is going on?  https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions

They do this on purpose, intentionally. They try to show the vulnerability of bitcoin to make BCC strong.

People won't get fooled because of jihan wu's manipulative actions. Once again, we won't get fooled into your BCC garbage.

The community will maintain strong even in the bad days and bitcoin will born from its ashed like a phoenix!


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: Vaflia on November 11, 2017, 09:46:42 PM
I think that the miners deliberately trying to destabilize the market and to pump up the BCC.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: frankbitcoin on November 11, 2017, 09:47:07 PM
what the heck is going on?  https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions

They do this on purpose, intentionally. They try to show the vulnerability of bitcoin to make BCC strong.

People won't get fooled because of jihan wu's manipulative actions. Once again, we won't get fooled into your BCC garbage.

The community will maintain strong even in the bad days and bitcoin will born from its ashed like a phoenix!

but couldnt those 134k unconfirmed transactions tank the BTC market in the coming day as the transactions become confirmed?  or am I being silly?  (honest question since i don't understand it)


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: bonosurgut on November 11, 2017, 09:48:30 PM
I'm starting to get really worried about this. Me too bro. I make some transactions in last days and already have 0 confirmations.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: frankbitcoin on November 11, 2017, 09:54:44 PM
I'm starting to get really worried about this. Me too bro. I make some transactions in last days and already have 0 confirmations.

yeah, this is starting to really freak me out.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: yaking on November 11, 2017, 10:02:46 PM
Hi,

Don't worry it's just people panic selling their BTC due to the drop today. it happens every now and then.

 :-\


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: franky1 on November 11, 2017, 10:14:39 PM
yawn
people only screaming about the price

temporary price drama.
if people are checking the price several times a day, they are literally asking to give themselves mental anxiety issues.

the cure. dont invest more than you fear losing and dont check the price daily


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: Rotellian on November 11, 2017, 10:18:38 PM
Quick question, how long does it take to process a transaction with current level of unconfirmed transactions?   


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: uray on November 11, 2017, 10:28:36 PM
They do this on purpose, intentionally. They try to show the vulnerability of bitcoin to make BCC strong.

People won't get fooled because of jihan wu's manipulative actions. Once again, we won't get fooled into your BCC garbage.

The community will maintain strong even in the bad days and bitcoin will born from its ashed like a phoenix!
The mining community is an integral part of the bitcoin community :P and if they start playing games the network will suffer and so is the reason we are seeing right now,i expected this after the 2x fork and since it is canceled they started their tricks to stifle the network as there is a sharp decline in the hashrate in the past couple of days.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: Hydrogen on November 11, 2017, 10:33:18 PM
They attack btc with unconfirmed spam transactions everytime one of their agendas like segwit2x isn't accepted.

There are massive spikes in the number of unconfirmed transactions whenever something like this happens:

https://i.imgur.com/9Nr8hRe.jpg

This goes back as far as 2014.

I sent btc yesterday & it confirmed quickly. I think I might have been able to confirm in 24+ hours with a transaction fee of 0.0001 which isn't too bad.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: frankbitcoin on November 11, 2017, 10:35:11 PM
Quick question, how long does it take to process a transaction with current level of unconfirmed transactions?   

it's being mined at about one block per hour, and one block handles around 2K transactions.  So with 100K  transactions backlogged, you can expect that to be about 50 hours.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: hase0278 on November 11, 2017, 10:51:49 PM
but couldnt those 134k unconfirmed transactions tank the BTC market in the coming day as the transactions become confirmed?  or am I being silly?  (honest question since i don't understand it)
It can tank the btc market if they are transactions headig to exchanges. Also, those spams causes uncertainty as you can see so even if they are unconfirmed, it will surely dump price a little, I am sure that there are some who will sell their btc now because of those unconfirmed transactions causing uncertainty. You are not being silly for asking this questions OP as this kind of events does not happen often. It should take more than 50hrs IMO to get all those transactions confirmed.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: jacobmayes94 on November 12, 2017, 12:00:27 AM
Ill be honest, the endless wait for my funds to confirm (even waited 24 hours+) with a 5 USD fee, this has me and my clients transacting in NEM and Litecoin. 5 USD TX fee is more expensive than PayPal.




Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: bitfools on November 12, 2017, 12:16:38 AM
Ill be honest, the endless wait for my funds to confirm (even waited 24 hours+) with a 5 USD fee, this has me and my clients transacting in NEM and Litecoin. 5 USD TX fee is more expensive than PayPal.




That's probably the truth of this entire SCAM is "Occam Razor", the simplest explanation is that the miners that control +80% of BTC in CHINA, are pushing people to pay More in Transaction fees, there is MORE money now in fee's than in mining, this is where the profit lay's.

Always a new way to make a fast-buck, changes seasonally now it fee's, yes they're getting VERY painful, but remember that BTC is a rich-mans crypto, so a $5 fee, on $5,000 USD transaction isn't bad,

The problem is these $1 transactions, paying a 0.99 fee; somebody is either stupid or its planned.

I think a combination of CHINA-ASICS colluding to drive up the transaction fee profits, but its also these 2,000 shit-coin alt btc-clones, where people buy&sell 100's of 1,000's of shit-coins a day, but they use BTC as the primary currency

The average idiot has 0.05 BTC, but that 100,000 BTC-Z

Most MORONS have been told to TRADE alt-coins, but bank in BTC's, ... what is obvious is there needs to be an established 'banking crypto' for the little people, and a use BTC for the 'rich peoples' crypto.


***

The majority of traders hold 20 alt-coin shit-cryptos they trade daily 0.01 BTC hoping that one will go to 0.5 BTC, of course it never happens, but this is the source of the ++100,000 BULLSHIT transaction per day

Sadly BTC is fucked, Satoshi would have never wanted BTC to be overwhelmed by idiots playing monopoly.

Something MUST be done to kill this use of BTC as the bank of "CRYPTO-GAMBLING"

The best thing is "FEES" perhaps given the same ppl, buy/sell 0.001BTC all day long, they should have to pay a fee of 0.001BTC that will put an end to this BULLSHIT, they will have to find another coin as their MAIN-BANK.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: ponicita on November 12, 2017, 12:38:50 AM
I'm not worried
I've seen more unconfirmed transactions in the past



Everybody is in panic mode today??  ???


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: kaizerblitz on November 12, 2017, 12:39:24 AM
Learn to be patient the reason of that is the traffic in every trasanction in blockchain. But sooner it will confirmed just wait.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: bitcoincollector03 on November 12, 2017, 01:40:26 AM
what the heck is going on?  https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions

Miners move to what is profitable. So we have less miners now in btc and blockchain priotize only those who paid more transaction fee.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: rohqit on November 12, 2017, 02:31:57 AM
And the chorus is still singing " bitcoin is decentralized, come join the revolution" lol


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: Bitcoexplorer on November 12, 2017, 02:59:22 AM
Actually seeing that some people can manipulate the market this way is very disappointing.
It looks like much worse than fiat currencies, where we are in the willing of central government banks and big financial institutions.
Here we are in the hands of a bunch of miners?
I thought the cryptocurrency world was something different.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: Jombitt on November 12, 2017, 03:07:45 AM
what the heck is going on?  https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions

I thought i was the only few who have a delay of transaction confirmation. Its already a day ago when i sent my transaction and still i only got 0 confirmation :/ I hate miners they are manipulating again and choosing only who had better fees. Is it time to panic now? i know this is some of the hard time struggle.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: imteaz on November 12, 2017, 03:13:33 AM
transferred bitcoin from coin base to brittrex, been 6 hours, still pending... this looks scary.. huge backlog..


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: Scorpion on November 12, 2017, 03:21:30 AM

Like people are saying it's all out attack on Bitcoin, we all know who is up to it too if you follow the tracks. They wanted SegWit2x for a complete take over of Bitcoin now they're trying to sway away influence from the real Bitcoin to Bitcoin Cash since all of their fingerprints all over that one.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: timikulit on November 12, 2017, 03:26:40 AM
OMG if this unconfirmed transaction reaches into half a million and so on

Then many people will loose confidence in bitcoin.

This is bad. we better switch to other coins. stay away from btc as of the moment

137 K unconfirmed transaction and increasing  too fast!!!


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: pooya87 on November 12, 2017, 03:47:31 AM
Quick question, how long does it take to process a transaction with current level of unconfirmed transactions?   

it's being mined at about one block per hour, and one block handles around 2K transactions.  So with 100K  transactions backlogged, you can expect that to be about 50 hours.

if by "it" you are referring to bitcoin then you are mistaken. there are still the same 5-6 blocks per hour on average which is 1 every 10 minutes being mined. there was a gap about an hour ago which is normal and apart from that things were "near normal" meaning there are still 5-6 blocks being mined every hour like always with some drops in total daily. maybe 10-15 less out of 144.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: BitcoinNewsMagazine on November 12, 2017, 03:57:01 AM
BCH difficulty will increase 400% in less than 20 hours according to https://fork.lol/pow/retarget so miners will switch back to mining bitcoin and the memory pool will clear. If you have a stuck transaction and paid an adequate fee it should confirm soon after that.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: Dummsaus on November 12, 2017, 04:20:03 AM
You mean all your BTC is frozen now? Even with all those hype transactions BCH is fast as shit.
It didnt take half an hour to have a small amount transferred from Poloniex to Bitfinex, fully confirmed and ready to go.
Though the fee still was more than I expected.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: puremage111 on November 12, 2017, 04:42:14 AM
Most people are aware of the BCH pump

If you checked on the Blockchain Hashrate

We can clearly see that the Hashrate of Bitcoin from 11M is now 5.4M

More than 50% Of the Hashrate were flew to BCH hmm


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: Chyton on November 12, 2017, 04:50:26 AM
Don't panic, it's just couple of groups that has special agenda on their hands. In the past we have seen more transaction spikes because some people are testing the blockchain if I remember correctly. When the BCC drama has ended, I'm pretty sure that Bitcoin is going to grow further.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: harri74 on November 12, 2017, 05:04:46 AM
BCH difficulty will increase 400% in less than 20 hours according to https://fork.lol/pow/retarget so miners will switch back to mining bitcoin and the memory pool will clear. If you have a stuck transaction and paid an adequate fee it should confirm soon after that.

Thanks for this.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: phexchanger on November 12, 2017, 05:16:06 AM
All switches or transactions from BTC to BCC will add to more unconfirmed transactions.
It is nice if your BTC is in the trading platform but what if your BTC is in your wallet, how can you switch?


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: sammrheza on November 12, 2017, 05:20:26 AM
everyone get out from abandoned bitcoin boat , and join into bitcoin cash rocket ..


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: skorupi17 on November 12, 2017, 05:27:08 AM
what the heck is going on?  https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions

We've been there many times before. We even had over 200k pending transactions and did it even make Bitcoin crash? Significantly no. It seems that some are attacking Bitcoin's weak spot at the moment in order for some people to find an alternative. Bitcoin had overcame this struggle before and it will do it again.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: chuckblocker on November 12, 2017, 12:01:37 PM
2 days without confirm, maybe someone can help

https://blockchain.info/tx/470eed8c0118e02d8b3accec1a3b041fb32683496f7cf33e33234a29d29e2fbf


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: Get-Paid.com on November 12, 2017, 12:09:17 PM
2 days without confirm, maybe someone can help

https://blockchain.info/tx/470eed8c0118e02d8b3accec1a3b041fb32683496f7cf33e33234a29d29e2fbf

That's bad.
You sent a BTC transaction 2 days ago with a fee of $5 approx. and it hasn't been confirmed yet.

We don't recall seeing something like this in the past.
Bitcoin is in big trouble.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: Bittoshi on November 12, 2017, 12:12:33 PM
Unconfirmed transactionsa re down to 16.000 but this is still a lot. They need to increase the block size one day before this problem damages the trust in BTC.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: gentlemand on November 12, 2017, 12:13:04 PM
It's because the creators of BCH want you to abandon Bitcoin by spamming the blockchain to make it unusable. May was far higher in terms of arterial cloggage. It cleared eventually as will this too. You can do your part by tweeting a photo of your sphincter to Jihan Wu and Mr. Ver.  


Unconfirmed transactionsa re down to 16.000 but this is still a lot. They need to increase the block size one day before this problem damages the trust in BTC.

If the block size was increased they'd just spam it some more.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: ratiobitcoin on November 12, 2017, 12:16:26 PM
is there any graph showing the number of unconfirmed transactions over time over the pasts?


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: Prodigan786 on November 12, 2017, 12:19:13 PM
Even I have done transaction set around 10$+ transaction fees even it took more than half a day for transaction confirmation it’s really making me worry about bitcoin may The action by bcc promoter but it’s not good sign at all.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: Get-Paid.com on November 12, 2017, 12:31:11 PM
It's because the creators of BCH want you to abandon Bitcoin by spamming the blockchain to make it unusable. May was far higher in terms of arterial cloggage. It cleared eventually as will this too. You can do your part by tweeting a photo of your sphincter to Jihan Wu and Mr. Ver.  


Unconfirmed transactionsa re down to 16.000 but this is still a lot. They need to increase the block size one day before this problem damages the trust in BTC.

If the block size was increased they'd just spam it some more.

It could be other parties than "the creators of BCH", could be governments or other officials ... so many of them don't like Bitcoin so it doesn't sound like this is going to get fixed unless something major is going to happen.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: gentlemand on November 12, 2017, 12:38:52 PM
It could be other parties than "the creators of BCH", could be governments or other officials ... so many of them don't like Bitcoin so it doesn't sound like this is going to get fixed unless something major is going to happen.

Look for who benefits, who can afford it and who has the ability.

All of the above point to Jihan Wu and friends and pretty much no one else.

Governments have much more important things to do and I believe Bitcoin can kill itself without state intervention.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: chuckblocker on November 12, 2017, 12:55:46 PM
2 days without confirm, maybe someone can help

https://blockchain.info/tx/470eed8c0118e02d8b3accec1a3b041fb32683496f7cf33e33234a29d29e2fbf

That's bad.
You sent a BTC transaction 2 days ago with a fee of $5 approx. and it hasn't been confirmed yet.

We don't recall seeing something like this in the past.
Bitcoin is in big trouble.


Yes, It sucks badly. I actually use btc for work making small payments to shops, receiving small payments. Now blockchain is asking for 1000/sat fee which is like 14$. Hope will improve but don't feel like it tbh.

Might be good for investors who are holding but us guys who just transfer/cashout/use with normal 50-500$ ammounts are getting shafted.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: Sithara007 on November 12, 2017, 01:03:29 PM
Now blockchain is asking for 1000/sat fee which is like 14$. Hope will improve but don't feel like it tbh.  

Whoa!!!!

$14 for a single transaction? Now that is crazy. 1,000 Sat/Byte is the highest ever fee recorded in the 8 years of history of Bitcoin (if I am not wrong). No wonder that the exchange rates are down by almost 20% and Bitcoin Cash is now trading at $1,500 per coin (from $300 per coin a few days back).


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: vv181 on November 12, 2017, 01:06:35 PM
Most people are aware of the BCH pump

If you checked on the Blockchain Hashrate

We can clearly see that the Hashrate of Bitcoin from 11M is now 5.4M

More than 50% Of the Hashrate were flew to BCH hmm
The hashpower movement is a red flag for me that there is some dirty playing going on here. Whatever is going to happen in the future is real dirty.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: PointHope on November 12, 2017, 01:08:17 PM
I made two ETH to BTC buy transactions today over the Exodus wallet/exchange, smooth as a baby's bottom! 8)

Sometimes I wonder if all these crybabies are for real, or paid bots!


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: jacobmayes94 on November 12, 2017, 01:13:27 PM
2 days without confirm, maybe someone can help

https://blockchain.info/tx/470eed8c0118e02d8b3accec1a3b041fb32683496f7cf33e33234a29d29e2fbf

That's bad.
You sent a BTC transaction 2 days ago with a fee of $5 approx. and it hasn't been confirmed yet.

We don't recall seeing something like this in the past.
Bitcoin is in big trouble.


Same thing happened to me, a 5 USD equiv fee which took 24 hours. A week ago, a 8 USD fee which took 8 hours to confirm. Me and my clients have had enough of the high fees.

It is in trouble, and i cannot bury my head in the sand, i was recieving payments in BTC from clients and business customers for the past two years from across the world, we have now moved to NEM/Litecoin, as I cannot take the volatility in price nor this endless high fee with nothing serious being done to address it, many people wanting prices to go up/down to benefit THEM, at the expense of the currencies utility and endless debates and arguing with nothing done, even the segwit implementation did very little thus far. This is not unlike the dotcom boom, in its current state, its viable for nothing more than digital gold. I mine a bit, but for the most part, i use it as it was intended, a digital payment system which worked well from across the world, its even cheaper for us to use PayPal at the moment for our TX sizes. Increasing the block size isn't enough. Imagine a whole towns worth of transactions every second. This would choke the Bitcoin network even with huge blocks, now try and expand that globally. Yes, there is serious trouble. And this isn't FUD, for me a drop in price is not good given the fact I make from GPUs to pay for the winter heating and a bit extra, for me a drop in price isn't beneficial, but how long can everything run on hot air and mania for? There needs to be solid steps for its PRACTICAL utility as a currency, or it will forever be a store of digital gold, and i would rather own physical gold and silver over a digital version, as you have something thats tangible.

You have people selling their HOUSES, their security that they OWN and taking out second mortgages to get on this train. If that isn't mania, I do not know what is. Even if i had a 99% chance of a profit, i would NEVER gamble that roof over my head, that security where if i owned no rent to pay, no risk of losing my home, that comfort and security is worth too much to me, but people ARE gambling this. I saw someone trying to get a £5k loan on here to get onto the mining train.

I will admit, i cashed out around £10k to help me move to this city and set up here with my partner and a business. I missed out on £50k had I held which is a bit of a bummer. But do i hold regrets? No. I have stability in my life and not uncertainty, an amazing home with my partner, and I have been expanding my reach for my meditation and spiritual seeking group too, keeping a balance. raw cash alone will not be enough to lure me in, im perfectly content with my life.

Don't get greedy. I have been investing a bit per month into digital currency, but its not gambling what i cannot afford to lose, but to see where it goes. I do not spend all day on a forum endlessly speculating, nor getting red-eyed in front of charts all day, its not healthy for the mind, and creates apathy. I even see people gloating on forums like this when the prices rise/falls, apathy to the fact that some lost for their gains. Apathy to those outside of the cryptoland, its addiction and is not unlike a gambling problem, hence why I took some time out from the digital currency world to balance myself, the mental health improvement has been worth more than £40k. Seeing the world, seeing my friends, spiritual meditation and channeling groups, seeking.

Thats been worth it, but I am also into IT as a hobby and therefore am mining a bit with GPUs with the power cost negated by the need to heat, investing a few quid a week into currencies like NEM, and seeing where the wind takes me. Everyones path is sacred to them however, whatever they chose. But this is my stance on the current state of Bitcoin, and thus direct much energy to trying to improve the world at large as endlessly speculating will do nothing, everyone i see is waiting for change, rather than looking within to help it be expressed.



Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: Sithara007 on November 12, 2017, 01:15:13 PM
Most people are aware of the BCH pump

If you checked on the Blockchain Hashrate

We can clearly see that the Hashrate of Bitcoin from 11M is now 5.4M

More than 50% Of the Hashrate were flew to BCH hmm
The hashpower movement is a red flag for me that there is some dirty playing going on here. Whatever is going to happen in the future is real dirty.

A few hours ago, I read that right now it is much more profitable to mine Bitcoin Cash when compared to Bitcoin. So this migration of hash power doesn't surprise me much. After all, the miners are money minded like you and me. If by changing a few lines of code they can earn 20% or 25% more, then why should they refrain from doing that?


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: pri3oner on November 12, 2017, 01:18:35 PM
it's made by concrete aim - destabilize the system, of course. Ppl try to make transactions successfully therefore increasing the amount of comission up to 20$. It's disgusting!  :-X It shows the disadvantage of technology.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: gentlemand on November 12, 2017, 01:21:18 PM
The hashpower movement is a red flag for me that there is some dirty playing going on here. Whatever is going to happen in the future is real dirty.

The dirty play is the BCH pump to tempt Bitcoin miners. Most Bitcoin miners are so mindless they don't know what they're mining. They just switch automatically between whatever provides the most cashola that particular second.

All you have to do to hijack them is lure them away with more profit. That's why I don't see how two major SHA256 coins can exist in the long run without making both intolerable to use.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: eaLiTy on November 12, 2017, 01:22:49 PM
A few hours ago, I read that right now it is much more profitable to mine Bitcoin Cash when compared to Bitcoin. So this migration of hash power doesn't surprise me much. After all, the miners are money minded like you and me. If by changing a few lines of code they can earn 20% or 25% more, then why should they refrain from doing that?
The big miners are certainly playing a factor here ,they just pumped the bitcoin cash to unprecedented levels and now we saw a good correction in that too,the mining hash rate is really low for bitcoin in the past few days and so is the reason the network is stagnated and the amount of unconfirmed transaction keeps on increasing and thereby the transaction fees.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: Get-Paid.com on November 12, 2017, 01:23:25 PM
I made two ETH to BTC buy transactions today over the Exodus wallet/exchange, smooth as a baby's bottom! 8)

Sometimes I wonder if all these crybabies are for real, or paid bots!

We run Get-Paid.com - since 2008, we pay users incentives to complete offers.
We paid one of our users 2 days ago with a fee of $0.70 as suggested by Blockchain system:

https://blockchain.info/tx/cf912968ebc5373e6393be5c7819a1ddee93e4b763e2c4c7f2e529a0c4a01c87

It hasn't been confirmed yet.

Do you think we have nothing else to do other than write all this?
It's a serious issue.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: webvn2k on November 12, 2017, 01:25:06 PM
something happen with miner ,   sell or buy so long time  3 days ,  i think a reason bitcoin cash with support of miner   .


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: jacobmayes94 on November 12, 2017, 01:29:15 PM
I made two ETH to BTC buy transactions today over the Exodus wallet/exchange, smooth as a baby's bottom! 8)

Sometimes I wonder if all these crybabies are for real, or paid bots!

We run Get-Paid.com - since 2008, we pay users incentives to complete offers.
We paid one of our users 2 days ago with a fee of $0.70 as suggested by Blockchain system:

https://blockchain.info/tx/cf912968ebc5373e6393be5c7819a1ddee93e4b763e2c4c7f2e529a0c4a01c87

It hasn't been confirmed yet.

Do you think we have nothing else to do other than write all this?
It's a serious issue.


It is a serious issue, as i stated above, it is negating Bitcoins utility as a payment system.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: The One on November 12, 2017, 01:30:51 PM
https://blockchain.info/charts/avg-block-size

People wanted seggy weggy and they don't use it.

Hence unconfirmed txs goes up, so do fees.

Seggy weggy doesn't help at all at the moment.  ;D ;D ;D

Because no one trust it, except for the derps.

Bitcoin cash has no problem.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: jacobmayes94 on November 12, 2017, 01:34:05 PM
I did post about a potential on here for starting up a crypto based grocery store, and on many other places. Interest was next to zero, I did market research to find no one wanted it, and thus I ended up doing another business. I had a vision for practical USE of the currency to buy and deliver non perishable food and shopping parcels to peoples homes with bitcoin, but market research found little interest to those in the Bitcoin world, nor outside of it, hence I bailed, it did not pass the feasibility study at that time.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: Ilegendph on November 12, 2017, 01:51:59 PM
what the heck is going on?  https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions

I thought i was the only few who have a delay of transaction confirmation. Its already a day ago when i sent my transaction and still i only got 0 confirmation :/ I hate miners they are manipulating again and choosing only who had better fees. Is it time to panic now? i know this is some of the hard time struggle.
This kind of problem is normal in a decentralized sytem. It can be manipulated by someone else. But I still believe in bitcoin that it will recover from this kind of problem because its still the preffered cryptocurrency of newbies or new to this kind of technology.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: surix on November 12, 2017, 01:59:48 PM
It's not a SPAM attack as usual?

It happened in the past before, and lasted quite long.

I'm a bit worried but not too much.

Idea is not to cash out the BCH dividend but keep it in hand, so you can sleep well in case of any of them wins.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: Get-Paid.com on November 12, 2017, 02:04:59 PM
https://blockchain.info/charts/avg-block-size

People wanted seggy weggy and they don't use it.

Hence unconfirmed txs goes up, so do fees.

Seggy weggy doesn't help at all at the moment.  ;D ;D ;D

Because no one trust it, except for the derps.

Bitcoin cash has no problem.

Who are those "people" who wanted Segwit2x?
Who decides if it's allowed or not?

If you can't answer these questions then Bitcoin is truly centralized and not decentralized.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: 1NV3ST0NM3 on November 12, 2017, 02:09:00 PM
Dont quite know whats happening around you see bitcoin flashing around $6000 again and with this lot of unconfirmed transactions. Moreover BCH emerging as a very big competitor. I really cant understand what is happening to bitcoin. Are these some after effects of abandoning segwit2x?


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: Newar on November 12, 2017, 02:11:31 PM
is there any graph showing the number of unconfirmed transactions over time over the pasts?

http://188.68.53.44/


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: gentlemand on November 12, 2017, 02:12:16 PM
Are these some after effects of abandoning segwit2x?

Yes. I don't think this BCH pump or this blockchain spamming would be happening if 2X had passed.

The last few years have all been about attempting to wrest control of Bitcoin's direction away from Core. 2X was the latest and it failed. This is the crudest attempt yet.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: Raask on November 12, 2017, 02:23:39 PM
170041 Unconfirmed Transactions  :P

Damn,  my normal fee I use 208 S/byte  has my transactions stuck since friday.  Will they ever time out?  I have not seen a delay like this for a long time.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: chuckblocker on November 12, 2017, 02:38:05 PM
Fee per byte   288.276 sat/B
Fees   0.00064862 BTC
2017-11-10 17:47:59

no confirm, just stuck since friday. No one mining btc anymore it seems, all switch


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: acquafredda on November 12, 2017, 02:43:16 PM
Miners are following the most profitable coin with their hashrate at the moment. We only have to wait and see. Bitcoin Cash blocks are empty and they come one after the other while Bitcoin Blocks are full and mempool is spammed heavily.
These are the most difficult days for bitcoiners.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: Vatimins on November 12, 2017, 02:58:35 PM
I did post about a potential on here for starting up a crypto based grocery store, and on many other places. Interest was next to zero, I did market research to find no one wanted it, and thus I ended up doing another business. I had a vision for practical USE of the currency to buy and deliver non perishable food and shopping parcels to peoples homes with bitcoin, but market research found little interest to those in the Bitcoin world, nor outside of it, hence I bailed, it did not pass the feasibility study at that time.


What in the fader faking fak are you talking about man? People reading into this thread couldn't care any less about what sorts of bullcrap you have posted about businesses and marketing using bitcoins. Because hello!? This is a completely different topic! You should go and try to make a thread yourself and talk about what you wanna say instead of doing this. Tss -:-. Really didn't want to rain on your parade, but you should consider respecting the op.



Anyways, this number of unconfirmed transactions really worries me a lot also to be honest. Even when i know better. Because let's face it, even when we know this is just a scheme, we are the ones that experience the hassle of these unconfirmed transactions. And when emergencies come, this will really be a big problem. So my solution is to stock emergency fund on a different currency and give fund to btc holdings. That is what i do.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: aqaq715 on November 12, 2017, 03:03:42 PM
Just wait, there is nothing new about this problem.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: sqid on November 12, 2017, 03:10:16 PM
I did post about a potential on here for starting up a crypto based grocery store, and on many other places. Interest was next to zero, I did market research to find no one wanted it, and thus I ended up doing another business. I had a vision for practical USE of the currency to buy and deliver non perishable food and shopping parcels to peoples homes with bitcoin, but market research found little interest to those in the Bitcoin world, nor outside of it, hence I bailed, it did not pass the feasibility study at that time.

This is pretty much what the BCH team are saying is the problem with BTC.  Its usability in the real world.   Frankly its a made up problem.   Crypto currencies as the above poster explained are not yet acceptable to main street.  Sure we need to sort out these delays and fees but we don't have to do it this week.

I expect there to be many more pending transactions before this attack is over,

For now hang tight.  It's really a minor problem in the scheme of things.  But for the future we need to make sure this type of thing cannot and wont happen again.   FWIW check out BTG - trying to curb the influence of big miners


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: nadrian on November 12, 2017, 03:12:33 PM
Waiting since yesterday for a small transaction to confirm, payed $5 in fee and still nothing after 24hrs. It's very worrying to see 172k total unconfirmed transaction and growing by the second.
Seems like the wise choice is to switch to bitcoin cash or some other alt...


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: arseaboy on November 12, 2017, 03:14:08 PM
well it seems that old holders are not being scared or worried about this things since it was happen before and its just repeating the same scene, we just needed to keep calmed and be patience for sure there's still some ways to improved the transactions system, I guess its the miners who really taking the advantage mining those high profits coins and abandoned btc for a while, let see how long those miners will support bcc.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: cantoro on November 12, 2017, 03:17:18 PM
Currently sitting around 174k.

BCH difficulty adjustment in a few hours so will get a fair bit of hashrate back to clear down the unconfirmed transactions. However, the people doing this are in it to win it so I expect we will have some surprises over the next few days.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: The One on November 12, 2017, 03:17:47 PM
https://blockchain.info/charts/avg-block-size

People wanted seggy weggy and they don't use it.

Hence unconfirmed txs goes up, so do fees.

Seggy weggy doesn't help at all at the moment.  ;D ;D ;D

Because no one trust it, except for the derps.

Bitcoin cash has no problem.

Who are those "people" who wanted Segwit2x?
Who decides if it's allowed or not?

If you can't answer these questions then Bitcoin is truly centralized and not decentralized.


I am not talking about segwit2x.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: Halcyon Days on November 12, 2017, 03:18:39 PM
Now it increased to 172912 unconfirmed transactions.

What a move to push Bitcoin cash and show the weakness of BTC, especially, after Segwit2x was called off. Not sure, if peoplel will fall for this. Hopefully, things will calm down soon.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: CuriousGeorge on November 12, 2017, 03:24:06 PM
BCH difficulty will increase 400% in less than 20 hours according to https://fork.lol/pow/retarget so miners will switch back to mining bitcoin and the memory pool will clear. If you have a stuck transaction and paid an adequate fee it should confirm soon after that.
Well, if that's obvious, it's good, atleast some of miners will come back to bitcoin, even though I'm not sure that the difficulties adjustment in the bitcoin blockchain will come soon
even before the diffuclty of BCH adjusted and increase 400%, it's just matter of time then.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: SynAck on November 12, 2017, 03:25:48 PM
Wow now the count is at almost 174k unconfirmed transactions... seems like many will loose faith in bitcoin and move to other coins....


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: Sithara007 on November 12, 2017, 03:27:59 PM
Now it increased to 172912 unconfirmed transactions.

What a move to push Bitcoin cash and show the weakness of BTC, especially, after Segwit2x was called off. Not sure, if peoplel will fall for this. Hopefully, things will calm down soon.

Whether BCH benefits or not, the blame is on the core developers of Bitcoin. They were sleeping over this scaling issue for the past many weeks. I have heard about guys paying as much as 1,000 Sat/Byte to get their transactions confirmed. Very soon, the number of unconfirmed transactions is going to cross the 200K mark, and the average fee needed for instant confirmation will rise further, to the stratosphere.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: drwhobox on November 12, 2017, 03:29:40 PM
This happens a little bit often some hodlers of bitcoin that want's to reveal Bitcoins's vulnerability when it comes to confirming transactions most of them set the transaction fee to the lowest for them to send alot of transactions so more and more unconfirmed transactions can be in into the blockchain network. this would be resolve just wait for the miners to confirm them all don't worry about this one. It's not even that serious.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: alyssa85 on November 12, 2017, 03:30:17 PM
I don't understand why the Core team arn't digging out their old miners and trying to mine bitcoin to get rid of the backlog. Sure they'd be mining at a loss, but isn't allowing the mempool to grow potentially more expensive in the long run?


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: felipe04 on November 12, 2017, 03:31:07 PM
Try to contact them if you have unconfirmed transactions then if they answer why that happen.Try what your going to do to confirm the transaction then if they not answer that do a complaints that all you can do if you experience like that and its money so you need to retrieve that so do everything to make it good


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: LeGaulois on November 12, 2017, 03:33:33 PM
I made a transaction less than 24 hours ago and It has been credited within 1 hour. Anyway this scenario already happened and the same will happen, miners will come back to Bitcoin in 1 or 2 days. Not much to be worried about. There are surely lot of people selling their bitcoins in hurry right now.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: bettor_earth on November 12, 2017, 03:34:15 PM
That is just a signal, you guys better sell bitcoin quick or will crying in tear soon.

I am the person with very high connected with the group who are control the whole banking and bitcoin system.
The reason Bitcoin going to false and false quickly because of 2 reason:
1. The global money reset. There will be a brand new money system will replace the current one.
2. The environment, mining bitcoin is extremely harm the environment

If you want to know more about the Global Currency Reset, read this:
https://angelteam.wordpress.com/2017/11/05/100-truth-about-global-currency-reset

On the bright sight,
Bitcoin used to be cheap just like Zimbabwe money note now...

If you want to become rich, you just need to listen to me. Go buy a Zimbabwe note, there will be a group going to buy 1 million GBP per Zimbabwe note very very soon.

Remember Zimbabwe money note is very very limited and it all printed and finished long ago already.

Imagine there is a news on the media like that? Zimbabwe money note picture used to be laugh for the entire world will be brought back !!! And this time it is much much more fun and entertainment.

I highly recommended all of you going to buy Zimbabwe money note right now, or you will miss the once in lifetime, and this chance will never comeback again !!!

more information about this topic: https://angelteam.wordpress.com/2017/11/09/official-final-zimbabwe-money-note-exchange-guide-rate-and-more/

There is no any kind of donation or any kind of commercial on that blog.

Feel free to discuss

Regard,
Bettor Earth


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: BrewMaster on November 12, 2017, 03:36:06 PM
BCH difficulty will increase 400% in less than 20 hours according to https://fork.lol/pow/retarget so miners will switch back to mining bitcoin and the memory pool will clear. If you have a stuck transaction and paid an adequate fee it should confirm soon after that.
Well, if that's obvious, it's good, atleast some of miners will come back to bitcoin, even though I'm not sure that the difficulties adjustment in the bitcoin blockchain will come soon
even before the diffuclty of BCH adjusted and increase 400%, it's just matter of time then.

additionally it will come down to the price of bitcoin cash. they can not keep miners over there with a dropping price, they will leave and the chain will be fucked for a while before it adjusts the difficulty again.

and don't forget that since there are lots of blocks being mined there are that much new BCH coins being released to miners who will dump them and that causes a big sell pressure and can crash the price pretty nice.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: lupinvn on November 12, 2017, 03:41:35 PM
what the heck is going on?  https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions

They do this on purpose, intentionally. They try to show the vulnerability of bitcoin to make BCC strong.

People won't get fooled because of jihan wu's manipulative actions. Once again, we won't get fooled into your BCC garbage.

The community will maintain strong even in the bad days and bitcoin will born from its ashed like a phoenix!
I hope so, but do you think miners would come back to bitcoin like before? Maybe they just move to BCH for tomorrow fork and then go back? And why did they do that, I mean there are many miners who decided to move to BCH and that makes bitcoin dump so bad.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: sqid on November 12, 2017, 03:43:52 PM
BCH difficulty will increase 400% in less than 20 hours according to https://fork.lol/pow/retarget so miners will switch back to mining bitcoin and the memory pool will clear. If you have a stuck transaction and paid an adequate fee it should confirm soon after that.
Well, if that's obvious, it's good, atleast some of miners will come back to bitcoin, even though I'm not sure that the difficulties adjustment in the bitcoin blockchain will come soon
even before the diffuclty of BCH adjusted and increase 400%, it's just matter of time then.

Don't think it is that easy.   I understand that BCH ghas a fork tomorrow to readjust their difficulty settings.   Muth@#$%^&^ers.  Bitcoin doesn't have an adjustment scheduled for a couple of weeks, we just had one.

Just have to wait this one out.   Does any one remember the TV show 'Dad's Army' -   
                                              "Don't panic"!


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: sqid on November 12, 2017, 03:46:01 PM
That is just a signal, you guys better sell bitcoin quick or will crying in tear soon.

I am the person with very high connected with the group who are control the whole banking and bitcoin system.
The reason Bitcoin going to false and false quickly because of 2 reason:
1. The global money reset. There will be a brand new money system will replace the current one.
2. The environment, mining bitcoin is extremely harm the environment

If you want to know more about the Global Currency Reset, read this:
https://angelteam.wordpress.com/2017/11/05/100-truth-about-global-currency-reset

On the bright sight,
Bitcoin used to be cheap just like Zimbabwe money note now...

If you want to become rich, you just need to listen to me. Go buy a Zimbabwe note, there will be a group going to buy 1 million GBP per Zimbabwe note very very soon.

Remember Zimbabwe money note is very very limited and it all printed and finished long ago already.

Imagine there is a news on the media like that? Zimbabwe money note picture used to be laugh for the entire world will be brought back !!! And this time it is much much more fun and entertainment.



I highly recommended all of you going to buy Zimbabwe money note right now, or you will miss the once in lifetime, and this chance will never comeback again !!!

more information about this topic: https://angelteam.wordpress.com/2017/11/09/official-final-zimbabwe-money-note-exchange-guide-rate-and-more/

There is no any kind of donation or any kind of commercial on that blog.

Feel free to discuss

Regard,
Bettor Earth


ROGER -  Just give me a break!!! :D


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: bpcommunity on November 12, 2017, 03:50:55 PM
Wow now the count is at almost 174k unconfirmed transactions... seems like many will loose faith in bitcoin and move to other coins....
Yeah!, This is a really worrying issue


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: aso118 on November 12, 2017, 03:54:24 PM
BCH difficulty will increase 400% in less than 20 hours according to https://fork.lol/pow/retarget so miners will switch back to mining bitcoin and the memory pool will clear. If you have a stuck transaction and paid an adequate fee it should confirm soon after that.
Well, if that's obvious, it's good, atleast some of miners will come back to bitcoin, even though I'm not sure that the difficulties adjustment in the bitcoin blockchain will come soon
even before the diffuclty of BCH adjusted and increase 400%, it's just matter of time then.

additionally it will come down to the price of bitcoin cash. they can not keep miners over there with a dropping price, they will leave and the chain will be fucked for a while before it adjusts the difficulty again.

and don't forget that since there are lots of blocks being mined there are that much new BCH coins being released to miners who will dump them and that causes a big sell pressure and can crash the price pretty nice.

The price does have a big role to play implies that those with the money bags will call the shots. If you manage to pump up the price, it will attract miners and the other branch will struggle to find blocks. The money definitely seems to be on the side of bitcoin cash.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: SynAck on November 12, 2017, 03:54:54 PM
Wow now the count is at almost 174k unconfirmed transactions... seems like many will loose faith in bitcoin and move to other coins....
Yeah!, This is a really worrying issue

Most of the people I know switched to BCH alerady, I am pondering that move too... Can't put my faith in bitcoin anymore, sure some say this happened in the past etc etc, but still its my finances in the game and I dont think it's wise to risk everything on "it happened before and it will pass this time too"...


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: buwaytress on November 12, 2017, 03:58:38 PM
Wow. Seriously. I have never seen so many Bitcoin Cash shills in my short time on this forum. Anyway, I somehow feel a lot better about myself (purely psychological, of course) to see the outlandish accusations. Bitcoin the crypto bank. The stash of crypto gambling. Why core doesn't just step in to fix the mempool.

Funny that so many of them take the trouble to create new accounts to say their mind. They do realise this is an open forum where everyone is free to air opinion right?

Funnier still, when they finally decide to cash out their Bitcoin Cash, they're going to have to buy Bitcoin to fiat it out anyway.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: Anarc Senior on November 12, 2017, 03:59:35 PM
That is just a signal, you guys better sell bitcoin quick or will crying in tear soon.

I am the person with very high connected with the group who are control the whole banking and bitcoin system.
The reason Bitcoin going to false and false quickly because of 2 reason:
1. The global money reset. There will be a brand new money system will replace the current one.
2. The environment, mining bitcoin is extremely harm the environment

If you want to know more about the Global Currency Reset, read this:
https://angelteam.wordpress.com/2017/11/05/100-truth-about-global-currency-reset

On the bright sight,
Bitcoin used to be cheap just like Zimbabwe money note now...

If you want to become rich, you just need to listen to me. Go buy a Zimbabwe note, there will be a group going to buy 1 million GBP per Zimbabwe note very very soon.

Remember Zimbabwe money note is very very limited and it all printed and finished long ago already.

Imagine there is a news on the media like that? Zimbabwe money note picture used to be laugh for the entire world will be brought back !!! And this time it is much much more fun and entertainment.

I highly recommended all of you going to buy Zimbabwe money note right now, or you will miss the once in lifetime, and this chance will never comeback again !!!

more information about this topic: https://angelteam.wordpress.com/2017/11/09/official-final-zimbabwe-money-note-exchange-guide-rate-and-more/

There is no any kind of donation or any kind of commercial on that blog.

Feel free to discuss

Regard,
Bettor Earth

Oh no you are trolling here too ?

Who the f***k are you to troll this forum spreading fault information and trying to scam people ?

Name one person in connection that you know ? Roger Ver ? ha ha .

Has it occured to you that this kind of language sounds really bad and most normal English speaking people could recognize you right away ??   "I am the person with very high connected with the group who are control the whole banking and bitcoin system"

By the way your name should be "Better Earth" not "Bettor Earth" you idiot !!




Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: Variogam on November 12, 2017, 04:16:25 PM
Bitcoin is mostly usefull as speculation investment only, so once people stop using Bitcoin excessively, then Bitcoin investors can send their coin to exchange once in a while without any drama of confirmation times again.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: MarioLuck990 on November 12, 2017, 04:17:14 PM
And this is what happen in a Centralized system, I hope you started realizing what BTC and every other clone of it really is.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: SynAck on November 12, 2017, 04:19:08 PM
And this is what happen in a Centralized system, I hope you started realizing what BTC and every other clone of it really is.
^^ +1


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: khokon150 on November 12, 2017, 04:28:59 PM
My 700$ BTC pending up to 15 hours but i did't know about 134k transaction still unconfirmed.I am very disappointed for my transaction is unconfirmed.
I hope within 24 hours this problem is solved.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: NeonXL on November 12, 2017, 04:31:16 PM
My 700$ BTC pending up to 15 hours but i did't know about 134k transaction still unconfirmed.I am very disappointed for my transaction is unconfirmed.
I hope within 24 hours this problem is solved.
Miners will be returned to BTC tomorrow because BCH blockchain will have 400% difficulty.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: cozk on November 12, 2017, 04:32:06 PM
A genuine BTCtalk thread.

Very entertaining.

Bitcoin cash. Let me laugh.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: maimainguyen05 on November 12, 2017, 04:34:23 PM
I think it's the result of increasing difficulty in Bitcoin mining. It make Bitcoin harder to mine so almost miners is changing to mine other coin with lower difficulty and BCH is what they chose. When there are less miner in BTC that mean the less block founded so it made the number of stuck transaction increase.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: bpcommunity on November 12, 2017, 04:37:08 PM
i also have one unconfirmed transaction on coinbase.
So far I have 4 unconfirmed transaction, total amount 11btc


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: SynAck on November 12, 2017, 04:38:45 PM
My 700$ BTC pending up to 15 hours but i did't know about 134k transaction still unconfirmed.I am very disappointed for my transaction is unconfirmed.
I hope within 24 hours this problem is solved.
Miners will be returned to BTC tomorrow because BCH blockchain will have 400% difficulty.
Don't forget there is a fork tomorrow to  fix just what you said ;)


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: websoftwareengineer on November 12, 2017, 04:43:09 PM
I think that there are a lot of people who are using bitcoins and a lot of them are exchanging their coins to fiat that's why this kind of traffic occurs. There is a huge down on the value of bitcoins lately and i think that it is one of the cause.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: dndssc on November 12, 2017, 04:49:06 PM
I have the same problem with a transaction of 0,05btc on coinbase


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: Anarc Senior on November 12, 2017, 04:57:51 PM
Wow now the count is at almost 174k unconfirmed transactions... seems like many will loose faith in bitcoin and move to other coins....

I have, I am a small-time miner that is in it for profit, will bills coming up I need trade bitcoin to a fiat to get cash. With this uncertainty that my bitcoin will  be stuck for weeks I have switched from mining at nicehash to other pools that pay to a exchange wallet, I will then convert Zcash, BCH, and XMR to Litcoin or ether and maybe buy the pump. But in reality it is the only way to get cash out of the market for bills and other cost. It will better the altcoin market to a fair value after all the negative news and panic sale that have happened this year

With 174k unconfirmed transaction and 3 blocks to 2 a hour, that queue will just keep growing, there no FIFO, it is based on a fee market, high fees win which means less profit for me, and I also don't have the time to waste on waiting, already $450 down the drain that be $200 if and when I get it.

Hello:

I didn't know that a private person could still mine and make a living.  I haven't sold any BTC during the last couple days but I bought quite a bid even up until late last night and did not experience any delay...do you want to sell your BTC directly to me - I'd be gladly to buy it off your hand if the price is right ?😊

I always want to ask a miner:  if the large pool miners leave BTC, how quickly the difficulty level drop ? Wouldn't that be beneficial for you with less competition ?

Is there a best way for someone like me to start mining ? I know the equipment is getting so ridiculous- but if I could invest some money to mine my own I wouldn't mind...



Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: JumPerz09 on November 12, 2017, 05:04:42 PM
its funny how other tell us not to worry on unconfirmed transactions.
I mean man how can you trade if you cant confirm? where it the trading there? how can it grow?
having 100k plus unconfirmed transactions if not solve will kill bitcoin itself..

high fees and slow confirmation then we are doom :( sad


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: Anarc Senior on November 12, 2017, 05:09:59 PM
I have the same problem with a transaction of 0,05btc on coinbase

Coinbase is a Segwit 2X supporter - of course they we'll slow you down... I bought some BTC up until late last nigh on Bittrex - no problem of waiting there !!


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: ismart1 on November 12, 2017, 05:13:15 PM
what the heck is going on?  https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions

They do this on purpose, intentionally. They try to show the vulnerability of bitcoin to make BCC strong.

People won't get fooled because of jihan wu's manipulative actions. Once again, we won't get fooled into your BCC garbage.

The community will maintain strong even in the bad days and bitcoin will born from its ashed like a phoenix!

When the BCash was released I read an article that completely made sense and that´s exactly what is going on right now. The article predicted that the hard fork (the update, not a new coin) now in November would be crucial to keep BCash of no importance or to build up its network, unfortunately Bitcoin worked against its own interest, in this case I must say, when did not raise the capacity of its block from 1MB to 2MB. That raise in the block size would be fundamental to stop the clog and the bottleneck of the transaction amount. Keeping the block small does not serve the interest of the users, only of the miners who can charge or select only the higher fees to push the confirmation. With that mentality soon one will be forced to pay a $100 fee just to make a fast transfer of bitcoin, the anti-bitcoin ideal when it was created. I believe if the 2X entered into effect you´d be seeing bitcoin prices close to the $10000 in no time.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: Serellyn on November 12, 2017, 05:14:15 PM
its funny how other tell us not to worry on unconfirmed transactions.
I mean man how can you trade if you cant confirm? where it the trading there? how can it grow?
having 100k plus unconfirmed transactions if not solve will kill bitcoin itself..

high fees and slow confirmation then we are doom :( sad

We tell you not to worry because this is not the first it has happened and it will surely happen again, if you really need to trade that much, pay an above average fee or use one of those services that will mine your transaction for you once the fee isn't too small. As said, this has happened before, this will not have long term effects on bitcoin.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: NeonXL on November 12, 2017, 05:16:37 PM
My 700$ BTC pending up to 15 hours but i did't know about 134k transaction still unconfirmed.I am very disappointed for my transaction is unconfirmed.
I hope within 24 hours this problem is solved.
Miners will be returned to BTC tomorrow because BCH blockchain will have 400% difficulty.
Don't forget there is a fork tomorrow to  fix just what you said ;)
Now it`s A LOT OF BLOCKS per hour. Fork will fix it too, so miners`ll leave it.
BCH is big fucking pumped Chinese and Korean SCUM.
Roger Ver is Antichrist. Follow BTC holy way!
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Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: ismart1 on November 12, 2017, 05:18:56 PM
i also have one unconfirmed transaction on coinbase.
So far I have 4 unconfirmed transaction, total amount 11btc

Are those all your transactions? I may know someone who might help, PM


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: Taskford on November 12, 2017, 05:33:25 PM
I also made a transaction to send more than $300 but until now it is not yet confirmed and i am starting to worry also because i believe that bitcoin is faster and even better than before so i think that it will not have a stuck confirmation but until now there is a lot of unconfirmed transaction and i hope that in the next few days, all of the unconfirmed transaction will be alright.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: Netnox on November 12, 2017, 05:46:01 PM
It has increased to 173,372 transactions. Considering a single block can accommodate ~2,000 transactions, it is going to take another 80-90 blocks to clear this backlog. And I have noticed something really weird. Check this:

https://blockchain.info/blocks

Check block # 494078 (mined by Bitfury). They wasted around 800 KB. Seriously? Right now they need to do that?


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: SynAck on November 12, 2017, 06:03:03 PM
Looking at fork.lol charts BCH hashrate just went to double that of BTC, its currently more than 50% of the total hashrate.
It seems like most of the miners moved to BCH and more are following, at this pace bitcoin core will be dead very soon since it will be even more difficult to confirm transactions.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: gentlemand on November 12, 2017, 06:11:02 PM
Looking at fork.lol charts BCH hashrate just went to double that of BTC, its currently more than 50% of the total hashrate.
It seems like most of the miners moved to BCH and more are following, at this pace bitcoin core will be dead very soon since it will be even more difficult to confirm transactions.

In two hours BCH will be 4x harder to mine. The miners will migrate back to BTC. They only care about which coin makes them the most money and this was all coordinated to mess with Bitcoin as much as possible.

Soon enough things will be back to relative normal. You can't coerce an entire system with those tactics.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: Snub on November 12, 2017, 06:18:54 PM
It is 176.7k already)
that number will decrease in a couple of hours, when miners will go back from BTCash


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: Platonicus on November 12, 2017, 06:22:05 PM
Agree.


It is 176.7k already)
that number will decrease in a couple of hours, when miners will go back from BTCash


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: TimeHacker on November 12, 2017, 06:22:48 PM
I really don't like that the BCH supporters use such practices as spamming Bitcoin with thousands of fake transactions to damage it. They really think that this way they will convince people to switch to BCH? If nothing else, this is the reason I never want to have anything to do with BCH.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: MatrixMining on November 12, 2017, 06:26:26 PM
The guys behind bitcoin cash are just a bunch of manipulators who just want to earn quick money, even if it means damaging the whole bitcoin community. Hopefully they will spend all their bitcoins on this crap very soon and leave us alone with full bags of useless BCH shitcoins.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: emberbekas on November 12, 2017, 06:33:33 PM
I'm starting to get really worried about this. Me too bro. I make some transactions in last days and already have 0 confirmations.

I have one transaction that hasn't get a confirmation yet after two days. But I remain calm because in the past I ever get a confirmation after a very long waiting. As bitcoin user I am aware that something like this can happen at anytime.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: SynAck on November 12, 2017, 06:37:36 PM
I'm starting to get really worried about this. Me too bro. I make some transactions in last days and already have 0 confirmations.

I have one transaction that hasn't get a confirmation yet after two days. But I remain calm because in the past I ever get a confirmation after a very long waiting. As bitcoin user I am aware that something like this can happen at anytime.

I don't think that this situation where 178k+ transactions are not confirmed (and growing) ever happened in btc history.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: crazyivan on November 12, 2017, 06:39:46 PM
We have had this before, these manipulators will get tired in a few days, especially now when Bitcoin cash pump s over. Fucking manipulators and scammers.

Then people come and say we should all switch. Yeah, right!


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: SynAck on November 12, 2017, 06:46:41 PM
We have had this before, these manipulators will get tired in a few days, especially now when Bitcoin cash pump s over. Fucking manipulators and scammers.

Then people come and say we should all switch. Yeah, right!
Excuse me but when did we had 179k+ unconfirmed transactions before in the past? I don't recall such thing and I'm with bitcoin since its birth...


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: J. Cooper on November 12, 2017, 06:46:54 PM
We have had this before, these manipulators will get tired in a few days, especially now when Bitcoin cash pump s over. Fucking manipulators and scammers.

Then people come and say we should all switch. Yeah, right!
It's a really cheap attempt of promoting and convincing more people to use the currency. It's really sad it has come to this but i saw this coming from a mile away. I think i even read about potential spamming of the network back in August when I joined this forum. Manipulation is not the way to overcome your competition, Bcash lost this fight when they started it.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: gentlemand on November 12, 2017, 06:50:34 PM
Excuse me but when did we had 179k+ unconfirmed transactions before in the past? I don't recall such thing and I'm with bitcoin since its birth...

It was well over 200,000 unconfirmed transactions in May. That was in the past.

Satoshi, is that you? What happened to your English, brah?


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: SynAck on November 12, 2017, 06:54:20 PM
Excuse me but when did we had 179k+ unconfirmed transactions before in the past? I don't recall such thing and I'm with bitcoin since its birth...

It was well over 200,000 unconfirmed transactions in May. That was in the past.

Satoshi, is that you? What happened to your English, brah?
:D


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: Bummers on November 12, 2017, 07:01:20 PM
Last night at 7pm I transferred 2btc to coinbase (well, tried to) at 8am this morning it had 0 confirmations.

I ended up paying an accelerator company $50 to push it through :'( :'(

Worked though, within 4 hours all confirmations came through and I had my coins on gdax...just in case!

If I sell it's only to buy back at a lower price.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: margarete11 on November 12, 2017, 07:13:47 PM
I really don't like that the BCH supporters use such practices as spamming Bitcoin with thousands of fake transactions to damage it. They really think that this way they will convince people to switch to BCH? If nothing else, this is the reason I never want to have anything to do with BCH.
Agree this proves the wrong motives of bitcoin cash , it just all business If they already make enough money out if it they will dump all of it , I really don't get why some folks are really being serious with bitcoin cash since there is nothing wonderful about it.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: Saimabutterfly on November 12, 2017, 08:20:32 PM
Is it still unconfirmed or now it has been resolved?


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: SakinaPrincess on November 12, 2017, 08:29:42 PM
This is the most weird day in my crypto life. First those btc and bch wars and then these unconfirmed transactions issues. whats next ;D


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: ene1980 on November 12, 2017, 09:03:10 PM
The guys behind bitcoin cash are just a bunch of manipulators who just want to earn quick money, even if it means damaging the whole bitcoin community. Hopefully they will spend all their bitcoins on this crap very soon and leave us alone with full bags of useless BCH shitcoins.
Yes there is manipulation in the entire cryptocurrency market,it is not solely confide to bitcoin cash alone ,yes there is a huge battle going on between bitcoin and bitcoin cash and bitcoin is under threat with all the move to test the network from the whales who are supporting bitcoin cash and this is hurting every user with the higher transaction charges.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: ahmadakbari on November 12, 2017, 09:07:49 PM
Is it still unconfirmed or now it has been resolved?

There are about 170000 unconfirmed transactions at the time of posting. Seems that the problem hasn't solved yet. But I am sure that everything will go back to normal soon.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: Pennywis3 on November 12, 2017, 09:34:21 PM
Its going down, miners are comming back.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: chichigirl on November 12, 2017, 10:24:39 PM
what the heck is going on?  https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions

I guess someone just want to manipulate the market. That is very ridiculous and very unprofessional. Doing something for your own benefits is unbelievable.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: mr_enoc on November 12, 2017, 10:42:53 PM
what the heck is going on?  https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions

Whats happening in the crypto currency world? Is there someone behind this unconfirmed transactions? I hope this problem may resolve immediately.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: Bforce on November 12, 2017, 11:08:59 PM
It is very sad when u see BTC is not protected and people want and tryng to damage its reputation..  something must be done about this!
Unconfirmed transactions is decreasing very fast...  Miners are back


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: GreenBits on November 13, 2017, 12:54:13 AM
Learn to be patient the reason of that is the traffic in every trasanction in blockchain. But sooner it will confirmed just wait.

NO,

quit being a pansy and paying 20X more than what is needed and waiting 20X as long to receive it.

Use Bitcoin Cash or Litecoin both of them work fast at a fraction of segshitcoin prices.


There is a difference between being Patient and just being a downright Fool.


╥Aztek

lol that was harsh, but I have to agree. there is little sense in paying extra for pretty much an unavoidable outcome. if you are trying to do some transacting in a timely and safe manner at the moment, there is only like 500+ other blockchains you can choose from. not so keen if you are trying to buy something with btc at them moment, but why the fuck would you be doing that, given the state of the network? personally, all the bitcoins are on my list atm, so using everything but.

but really though, this is an entire ecosphere. not just bitcoin, im all about bitcoin, but use all of the advantages we are provided. doge is fast af, and damn near free to boot, as an additional example.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: javadsalehi on November 13, 2017, 12:58:53 AM
Unconfirmed transactions is decreasing very fast...  Miners are back

It doesn't look like that. Although I am sure that this problem will be solved soon, but there is more than 14000 unconfirmed transactions.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: chuckblocker on November 13, 2017, 01:03:38 AM
Nothing is decreasing, this seems to be a neverending story. Bet I will wake up tommorow and still find my transaction unconfirmed. I wish all the shops I use would take anything other then btc so i can move on from this garbage. Paying 4$ fee for a 20$ transaction on friday and it's almost monday now. Jokes on me.



Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: vv181 on November 13, 2017, 01:05:26 AM
The hashpower movement is a red flag for me that there is some dirty playing going on here. Whatever is going to happen in the future is real dirty.

The dirty play is the BCH pump to tempt Bitcoin miners. Most Bitcoin miners are so mindless they don't know what they're mining. They just switch automatically between whatever provides the most cashola that particular second.

All you have to do to hijack them is lure them away with more profit. That's why I don't see how two major SHA256 coins can exist in the long run without making both intolerable to use.
Yeah, we should be very concerned about that, So I wouldn't call it just a pump because there is major disagreement to which is the real bitcoin. The miners will decide its simple. no matter what is happening there is great manipulation and its done right and perfectly.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: pushups44 on November 13, 2017, 01:08:09 AM
Bitcoin needs to scale, and this is nothing new. It will serve to boost interest in altcoins, including Bitcoin Cash. Segwit needs to be more widely implemented into the network and the Lightning Network will have to be integrated eventually. No matter what the near-term problems, bitcoin is here to stay.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: Granslam on November 13, 2017, 01:11:08 AM
what the heck is going on?  https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions
This is not good but i know that bitcoin will solve this problem i know that bitcoin is a strong crypto and it will rise again so we neeed to wait and don't panic .


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: aoihs00 on November 13, 2017, 07:35:06 AM

Ohh God dam you people! Stop panicking with this shit. This is what making the bitcoin cash very strong at this point and the founder is being happy about it. If this chain reaction continues then it will take very short time for the bitcoin to collapse and then kiss the ass of BCH. Really I’m telling you this is what they are wanting from us, to cry and crawl towards the BCH and help it grow more. I have my unconfirmed transactions since week now but I don’t care much about it because I want those miners to get in line and confirm my transaction over the BCH, thats all! Then only things can come to normal. People fall for such things a lot and don’t really like it.





Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: saen on November 13, 2017, 08:01:20 AM
It isn't bad yet. I am concerned most of all by the commissions. Recently, I for one transaction have given $7. Is it normal? Bitcoin stops being a cryptocurrency standard


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: amspec on November 13, 2017, 08:17:54 AM
its true although im still holding it i knew that iit will be back to normal soon


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: EXITCORNER on November 13, 2017, 08:25:27 AM
hmm still 120k pending like this, im afraid doin transaction like this :| because some system payment if we deal with that amount price in $ / euro or etc and pending too long + fluctuate btc. i need pay more if btc change too much :(
i think btc will drop till this problem solved


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: jagdeepjd on November 13, 2017, 08:34:42 AM
what the heck is going on?  https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions

yeah man this is not good unconfirmed transactions are again piling up my transaction made on 10th november is not yet cofirmed . but i think all this problems are happening because of bitcoin cash coming up as a competitor and all the FUD created in the market about bitcoin core and huge pump of bitcoin cash..
hope to see things going stable in few days .


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: darkywis on November 13, 2017, 08:39:03 AM
what the heck is going on?  https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions

It's because people now are into bitcoin. It will take weeks or even months to confirm that kind of transactions.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: KuromaYoichi on November 13, 2017, 09:14:34 AM
what the heck is going on?  https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions
The same old fud, spam the network and then claiming that bch is the true bitcoin and better as digital currency compared to bitcoin itself. The people who don't know will switch to bch. This won't stop because people keep panicking everytime this happen and they can pump bch with this.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: ColdZerk on November 13, 2017, 09:17:35 AM
That`s the reason why BTC is old and non-mass technology and it need SegWit2x. Will wait for May 2018.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: Pan Troglodytes on November 13, 2017, 09:28:13 AM
It isn't bad yet. I am concerned most of all by the commissions. Recently, I for one transaction have given $7. Is it normal? Bitcoin stops being a cryptocurrency standard

Seven? It was chip! Average transaction fee is 19.2 USD at present (!!!). Average.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: Almat on November 13, 2017, 09:29:51 AM
124k at the moment. It has gotten a little better, at least. The BCH fad is starting to die down so I expect that things will get back to normal soon. For now, I will avoid moving BTC.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: chuckblocker on November 13, 2017, 11:57:21 AM
They finally confirmed my 290 sat/byte transaction from friday. Only took forever and now they asking again for the same 4.5/13$ fees (normal/priority). If the network ever gets back to normal I will be using again. At the current fees and wait times, no thanks.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: TangentC on November 13, 2017, 01:11:07 PM
124k at the moment. It has gotten a little better, at least. The BCH fad is starting to die down so I expect that things will get back to normal soon. For now, I will avoid moving BTC.

Fault lies with Core Devs.

Core Devs Lied and say segwit fix everything

Stupid people that pay $20 to send core btc coin when every other coin faster and cheaper, Do they think it fixxed?    :P


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: Pan Troglodytes on November 13, 2017, 01:16:58 PM
That`s the reason why BTC is old and non-mass technology and it need SegWit2x. Will wait for May 2018.

what happens May'18? I was not aware that any dates were set for anything, thought that 2x was on hold undefinitely


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: coinsontheroad on November 13, 2017, 04:47:37 PM
124k at the moment. It has gotten a little better, at least. The BCH fad is starting to die down so I expect that things will get back to normal soon. For now, I will avoid moving BTC.

Fault lies with Core Devs.

Core Devs Lied and say segwit fix everything

Stupid people that pay $20 to send core btc coin when every other coin faster and cheaper, Do they think it fixxed?    :P

My understanding is that segwit hasn't fully had a chance to prove itself yet. There are only about 7% segwit transactions. As that increases, the network will speed up. So it is too early to measure segwit success.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: chuckblocker on November 13, 2017, 04:55:48 PM
Why has this not been resolved yet?

On sunday there were talks of the bch difficulty going up which would turn the miners back to btc but i'm still seeing over 100k unconfirmed and high fee's all around. 4 days with this issue so far.

Is it ever going to improve?


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: jacobmayes94 on November 13, 2017, 04:59:21 PM
The high fees are doing my nut in as well, thing is i don't think all those were spam... The thing is, the network simply cannot handle the volume of transactions in its current state. Simply increasing the blocksize is a bandaid if bitcoin is to become large, where blocks would end up being several gigabytes if it was anywhere like the volume of visa/mastercard.

NEM and the lightning network do offer solutions to this problem, to a degree.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: freeElectron on November 13, 2017, 05:04:55 PM
The high fees are doing my nut in as well, thing is i don't think all those were spam... The thing is, the network simply cannot handle the volume of transactions in its current state. Simply increasing the blocksize is a bandaid if bitcoin is to become large, where blocks would end up being several gigabytes if it was anywhere like the volume of visa/mastercard.

NEM and the lightning network do offer solutions to this problem, to a degree.

Lightning network is patented bankster invention, and will be the end of decentralization.

"The simplest option would have been to raise the block size cap from 1 MB that Satoshi Nakamoto originally added as a temporary measure to prevent spam transactions. However the company BlockStream, backed by insurance giant AXA[ref] which now has the majority of developers controlling the Core repository did not want that. They wanted to stifle on-chain capacity so they could force users and transactions into using their patented side chain called Lightning Network[ref]. Not to mention that the Lightning Network will abandon the original Bitcoin vision for a fully decentralised payment system[ref] and move to a system which is more like regular banks which can be controlled, regulated and censored[ref]. This is a disgusting hostile corporate takeover attempt of Bitcoin and the goal is to kill it off as a decentralised currency."

https://theflippening.github.io/open-letter-to-bitcoin-miners-from-another-miner/


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: Monartis on November 13, 2017, 05:07:04 PM
Anyone have the latest count on unconfirmed transactions?


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: chuckblocker on November 13, 2017, 05:08:24 PM
~110k or so and slowly creeping the wrong way, upwards :(

Those downspikes on the chart are total BS, there was never a drop below 100k.

https://blockchain.info/charts/mempool-count?timespan=24h


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: gentlemand on November 13, 2017, 05:10:44 PM
Yeah, we should be very concerned about that, So I wouldn't call it just a pump because there is major disagreement to which is the real bitcoin. The miners will decide its simple. no matter what is happening there is great manipulation and its done right and perfectly.

Miners aren't qualified to decide. All they should do is mine. They don't have the vision or the intelligence to make decisions for everyone else.


Lightning network is patented bankster invention, and will be the end of decentralization.

Do you get a commission every time you post your wonderful link?


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: freeElectron on November 13, 2017, 05:21:08 PM

Lightning network is patented bankster invention, and will be the end of decentralization.

Do you get a commission every time you post your wonderful link?

Do you have something to say on the topic, or are you all in on ad hominem?


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: vv181 on November 13, 2017, 05:25:05 PM
Yeah, we should be very concerned about that, So I wouldn't call it just a pump because there is major disagreement to which is the real bitcoin. The miners will decide its simple. no matter what is happening there is great manipulation and its done right and perfectly.

Miners aren't qualified to decide. All they should do is mine. They don't have the vision or the intelligence to make decisions for everyone else.


In my opinion, Bitcoin is so flawed since BCH was created. It allows the miners to flip flop between coins at any time, so it's the miners that set the pump and dumps.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: burnedbyfees on November 13, 2017, 05:26:41 PM
Why has this not been resolved yet?

On sunday there were talks of the bch difficulty going up which would turn the miners back to btc but i'm still seeing over 100k unconfirmed and high fee's all around. 4 days with this issue so far.

Is it ever going to improve?

Because Bitcoin is still under attack this isn't over, the upside is that every time they try and fail they get weaker.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: Coldsnap4457 on November 13, 2017, 05:27:39 PM
The clogged up mempool is NOT the only PROBLEM!

I just paid close to $40 fee to send some BTC.

WTF?!?!

How the hell can Bitcoin be used as a currency or for buying anything?

If I was to pay someone in another country, I'd rather mail a check in an envelope.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: Dart18 on November 13, 2017, 05:31:07 PM
The clogged up mempool is NOT the only PROBLEM!

I just paid close to $40 fee to send some BTC.

WTF?!?!

How the hell can Bitcoin be used as a currency or commerce?

That is why you are paying much because of the damn traffic.
As long as you will pay more you will be the priority.
Pfft and you just knew tht now?.
I am not worried until now. This things already happened before.
 Are all who comments hdre are newvbies?


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: FrueGreads on November 13, 2017, 05:35:12 PM
Yeah, we should be very concerned about that, So I wouldn't call it just a pump because there is major disagreement to which is the real bitcoin. The miners will decide its simple. no matter what is happening there is great manipulation and its done right and perfectly.

Miners aren't qualified to decide. All they should do is mine. They don't have the vision or the intelligence to make decisions for everyone else.

I wouldn't say that miners lack the vision or intelligence to make decisions. I would just say that it's not just up to them, so they can't really decide anything alone. Yes right now they are swapping to BCH because it's more profitable to mine it, but if we prefer bitcoin, and don't sell our coins, BTC will still be more valuable, and as the difficulty adjusts, it will again be more profitable to mine BTC instead of BCH, and miners will switch back to BTC.

It's a business for them, and they are in it for the profit, I totally get it, but in the end they can't really decide anything. The market is ruled by supply and demand, so if the demand is still bitcoin, they will switch back to the most profitable coin to mine.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: Coldsnap4457 on November 13, 2017, 05:42:03 PM
The clogged up mempool is NOT the only PROBLEM!

I just paid close to $40 fee to send some BTC.

WTF?!?!

How the hell can Bitcoin be used as a currency or commerce?

That is why you are paying much because of the damn traffic.
As long as you will pay more you will be the priority.
Pfft and you just knew tht now?.
I am not worried until now. This things already happened before.
 Are all who comments hdre are newvbies?

Are you saying that Bitcoin is going to become less popular because traffic is going to down?  What happens when Bitcoin becomes more popular?  Will I pay $80 fees to get my BTC sent in a fast time?

Here's the latest block mined:  https://blockchain.info/block/0000000000000000000df6d1c8c0ddd830af3e56d53d03dee729196f57ae7397

Transactions Fees:  2,691.49305778 BTC

Number of Transactions:  2159

Average fee per transaction:  0.001755369 BTC

If BTC = $6,500, then average fee is $11.41.

A paper check in an envelope is cheaper.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: cryptodickhole on November 13, 2017, 06:01:51 PM
The tps rate has recovered slightly, miners are slowly moving back to btc as bch mining pools get more flooded and less profitable.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: barabut on November 13, 2017, 06:02:26 PM
what the heck is going on?  https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions
In general there is a play going on to make the bitcoin disreputable and BCC strong versus bitcoin. On the other hand this makes me uncomfortable I am so there is so many of you around like me.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: alyssa85 on November 13, 2017, 06:05:18 PM
Anyone have the latest count on unconfirmed transactions?

It's about a 100,000 and it's come down a lot. See the following graph:

https://jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/#24h

Note that at 7 p.m. GMT BCH does it's consensus hardfork to adjust it's difficulty adjustment. Their difficulty should drop which should see some miners switch back to them.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: Frank0209 on November 13, 2017, 06:06:11 PM
LOL. Maybe this is the main reason of Bitcoin price dump a lot. This case is the result of high mining difficulty of Bitcoin, because of the difficulty is too high, a lot of miners have changed to mine another cryptocurrency with lower difficulty, it made the number of block founded decreased and the number of stuck transaction increased. But for now I think people are finding the way to solve this problem that why the price of Bitcoin is rising back again.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: cl37007 on November 13, 2017, 06:11:17 PM
This is a very worrying state of affairs as it proves to some degree that this 'decentralized' currency is not fully decentralized if a few people can manipulate the system like this so easily. Makes me concerned for the future of BTC.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: burnedbyfees on November 13, 2017, 06:12:19 PM
Along with Bitcoin spam transactions they're also trying to make emergency adjustments to BCH mining difficulty while they pump BCH price. They also have "BCH much wow" sockpuppets roaming the web talking up to coincide with pump movements.

It's not something that's sustainable, they can only do it in burst and each burst gets more pathetic as the cryptocommunity wises up and tells them to fuck off.

Transactions will clear when they've burnt through too much money and give up, there's also only so long collaborators like Shapeshift can justify putting a hold on Bitcoin transactions.

Take note of what all of these people are doing now, remember who betrayed and tried to manipulate you when the dust settles.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: btcprospecter on November 13, 2017, 06:16:28 PM
People panicking isn't going to help the issue when they try taking their bitcoin out and putting it into something else. If I was mining bitcoin I probably would switch to bitcoin cash if it was more profitable.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: TMS123 on November 13, 2017, 06:17:09 PM
In all essence... this might be the game within the game? If the miners see every user is paying $10.00+ per every transaction.... someone is getting rich off of this. So why change it? This entire thing for a week smells like a test and setup.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: gentlemand on November 13, 2017, 06:17:51 PM
I wouldn't say that miners lack the vision or intelligence to make decisions. I would just say that it's not just up to them, so they can't really decide anything alone.

Well, plenty of them do feel that they can decide for everyone else and that's what they've been trying to repeatedly. I do not believe that one small subsection should have the power that they do.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: teamjk on November 13, 2017, 06:22:51 PM
146k  and trend is going up again

At the same time also it doesn't seem that miners have switched  from btc  to bch (at least for the last hours) as it was the case yesterday





Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: Netnox on November 13, 2017, 06:23:29 PM
It went to almost 200K and is now down to around 115,000. Even at this level, the fees is unsustainable. And do you know the worst thing about this whole episode? We can't blame the miners for this. It is not their fault. See this:

https://blockchain.info/blocks

All of them are making use of the 1 MB block size limit.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: Jkattt on November 13, 2017, 06:24:45 PM
Bitcoin is frequently attacked with spam transactions in order to create a bottle neck in the block chain and push people into panic mode.

No need to panic. Bitcoin is A Ok.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: slate_main on November 13, 2017, 06:26:13 PM
Hilarious OP, has no one stumbled across that page before, you know, the mempool one - it's fine, once this gets to a certain level, the BTC masternode comes in and hoovers up all the transactions, and fees  ;)


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: Haunebu on November 13, 2017, 06:31:42 PM
This is a very worrying state of affairs as it proves to some degree that this 'decentralized' currency is not fully decentralized if a few people can manipulate the system like this so easily. Makes me concerned for the future of BTC.
You got it all wrong. Every market can be manipulated to a certain degree(Stocks, Crypto etc). Everyone knows this. This does not mean that they can execute their plans successfully all the time. This also does not suggest that bitcoin is a centralized currency controlled by a particular group of people. Bitcoin is a complete decentralized currency which allows anonymous transactions to a degree which is far better than FIAT currencies. Don't let the bitcoin cash situation waver your faith in bitcoin.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: barabut on November 13, 2017, 06:41:02 PM
The fact that the number of unauthorized transactions is so great really puts Bitcoin's trademark value, its functionality at a point of dispute, and as we look at the value, Bitcoine hurts.
This process seems to be worked on the most BCC side. It may be useful not to use BTC for a while when exchanging money between exchanges. This situation increased both feelings and seriously affected the sending times. With the latest hard work, ETH allows even the smallest Gwei to do serious speeding.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: BitcoinPanther on November 13, 2017, 06:48:42 PM
People panicking isn't going to help the issue when they try taking their bitcoin out and putting it into something else. If I was mining bitcoin I probably would switch to bitcoin cash if it was more profitable.

I do agree, panic won't do a think or help speed up transaction, though voicing out something together with other user can at least get attention.  I think one of those 134k transaction were mine.  I send my BTC and took me more than 12 hours to confirm, I need to push it via accelerator and hoping to hasten the confirmation, even with the accelerator I still need to wait for another 3 hours for the first confirmation.  I think this is another spam from the opposing developer and if you can look at the scenario, these unconfirmed transaction pushes the price of BCH up.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: Coldsnap4457 on November 13, 2017, 06:49:31 PM
Along with Bitcoin spam transactions they're also trying to make emergency adjustments to BCH mining difficulty while they pump BCH price. They also have "BCH much wow" sockpuppets roaming the web talking up to coincide with pump movements.

It's not something that's sustainable, they can only do it in burst and each burst gets more pathetic as the cryptocommunity wises up and tells them to fuck off.

Transactions will clear when they've burnt through too much money and give up, there's also only so long collaborators like Shapeshift can justify putting a hold on Bitcoin transactions.

Take note of what all of these people are doing now, remember who betrayed and tried to manipulate you when the dust settles.

I assume that you are saying that they are spamming Bitcoin?  Can you provide proof?


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: gentlemand on November 13, 2017, 06:52:51 PM
I assume that you are saying that they are spamming Bitcoin?  Can you provide proof?

Try sending a Bitcoin?

When BCH happened on August 1st the time leading up to that was yet another period when fees went through the roof. As soon as big blockers got what they wanted the mempool was empty and almost free transactions went through.

Now big blockers want to force Bitcoin users onto their chain and kill Bitcoin. What's the easiest way of doing that? Pump it and spam it again.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: Cutekittens21 on November 13, 2017, 07:01:04 PM
yawn
people only screaming about the price

temporary price drama.
if people are checking the price several times a day, they are literally asking to give themselves mental anxiety issues.

the cure. dont invest more than you fear losing and dont check the price daily

^

the only way to invest in crypto. stfu and hodl.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: gentlemand on November 13, 2017, 07:03:25 PM
yawn
people only screaming about the price

Some people actually want to use it for stuff. That's why it becomes a serious problem when it's too expensive to transact. BCH will never have this problem because no one uses it for anything.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: burnedbyfees on November 13, 2017, 07:19:51 PM
yawn
people only screaming about the price

Some people actually want to use it for stuff. That's why it becomes a serious problem when it's too expensive to transact. BCH will never have this problem because no one uses it for anything.

 ;D

When you look at BCH communities they honestly have no endgame. They are against a coin being a store of value and just rant about "superior tech".

The fact is that there are far superior coins out there to both currencies.

The only thing going for Bitcoin is that it's an accepted store of value, it was the coin that started it all and a reserve currency, the only thing going for BCH is that it's a fork of something valuable with a similar name. Neither coin are remarkable compared to newer coins they are both inferior.

If they destroy BTC, (which make no mistake, this is what they're aiming for, check their Reddit) it won't be their coin that claims the throne, at least not for more than a week.

They would destroy their own coin, they would destroy the concept of a "digital gold" store of value, and they would probably kill the whole market if that safety net is gone. Everything will look like tulipmania, twats like Jamie Dimon and Peter Schiff would be proven right and these plotters would go right back to being insignificant nerds, rather than nerds who got lucky.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: freeElectron on November 13, 2017, 07:43:22 PM
yawn
people only screaming about the price

Some people actually want to use it for stuff. That's why it becomes a serious problem when it's too expensive to transact. BCH will never have this problem because no one uses it for anything.

 ;D

When you look at BCH communities they honestly have no endgame. They are against a coin being a store of value and just rant about "superior tech".

The fact is that there are far superior coins out there to both currencies.

The only thing going for Bitcoin is that it's an accepted store of value, it was the coin that started it all and a reserve currency, the only thing going for BCH is that it's a fork of something valuable with a similar name. Neither coin are remarkable compared to newer coins they are both inferior.

If they destroy BTC, (which make no mistake, this is what they're aiming for, check their Reddit) it won't be their coin that claims the throne, at least not for more than a week.

They would destroy their own coin, they would destroy the concept of a "digital gold" store of value, and they would probably kill the whole market if that safety net is gone. Everything will look like tulipmania, twats like Jamie Dimon and Peter Schiff would be proven right and these plotters would go right back to being insignificant nerds, rather than nerds who got lucky.

The whole purpose of Segwit1x(BTC) is to stall the development, increase the transaction fees, and force people into centralized banks on the blockchain (lightningNetwork), which will do transactions off the blockchain.
If you like the decentralized bitcoin project, you should stop all support for the hijacked coin.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: durilup on November 13, 2017, 07:46:40 PM
It seems like bitcoin is outdated with these unconfirmed transactions . yesterday were like 200.000 transactions unconfirmed .
We need a good update for this and a smaller fee for transactions


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: burnedbyfees on November 13, 2017, 07:52:13 PM
yawn
people only screaming about the price

Some people actually want to use it for stuff. That's why it becomes a serious problem when it's too expensive to transact. BCH will never have this problem because no one uses it for anything.

 ;D

When you look at BCH communities they honestly have no endgame. They are against a coin being a store of value and just rant about "superior tech".

The fact is that there are far superior coins out there to both currencies.

The only thing going for Bitcoin is that it's an accepted store of value, it was the coin that started it all and a reserve currency, the only thing going for BCH is that it's a fork of something valuable with a similar name. Neither coin are remarkable compared to newer coins they are both inferior.

If they destroy BTC, (which make no mistake, this is what they're aiming for, check their Reddit) it won't be their coin that claims the throne, at least not for more than a week.

They would destroy their own coin, they would destroy the concept of a "digital gold" store of value, and they would probably kill the whole market if that safety net is gone. Everything will look like tulipmania, twats like Jamie Dimon and Peter Schiff would be proven right and these plotters would go right back to being insignificant nerds, rather than nerds who got lucky.

The whole purpose of Segwit1x(BTC) is to stall the development, increase the transaction fees, and force people into centralized banks on the blockchain (lightningNetwork), which will do transactions off the blockchain.
If you like the decentralized bitcoin project, you should stop all support for the hijacked coin.


The only hijacking is going on from Ver and cronies with their manipulation. Bitcoin Cash will  never be accepted as Bitcoin, not by our community or by outsiders looking in. The only thing they would do if they could pull a flip off (which they can't because it's less popular than cancer) is trash the concept of a store of value.

I could name a dozen coins, even coins derided as shitcoins that are "better tech" right now than both coins. There's only one Bitcoin and you ain't it.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: freeElectron on November 13, 2017, 07:58:26 PM
yawn
people only screaming about the price

Some people actually want to use it for stuff. That's why it becomes a serious problem when it's too expensive to transact. BCH will never have this problem because no one uses it for anything.

 ;D

When you look at BCH communities they honestly have no endgame. They are against a coin being a store of value and just rant about "superior tech".

The fact is that there are far superior coins out there to both currencies.

The only thing going for Bitcoin is that it's an accepted store of value, it was the coin that started it all and a reserve currency, the only thing going for BCH is that it's a fork of something valuable with a similar name. Neither coin are remarkable compared to newer coins they are both inferior.

If they destroy BTC, (which make no mistake, this is what they're aiming for, check their Reddit) it won't be their coin that claims the throne, at least not for more than a week.

They would destroy their own coin, they would destroy the concept of a "digital gold" store of value, and they would probably kill the whole market if that safety net is gone. Everything will look like tulipmania, twats like Jamie Dimon and Peter Schiff would be proven right and these plotters would go right back to being insignificant nerds, rather than nerds who got lucky.

The whole purpose of Segwit1x(BTC) is to stall the development, increase the transaction fees, and force people into centralized banks on the blockchain (lightningNetwork), which will do transactions off the blockchain.
If you like the decentralized bitcoin project, you should stop all support for the hijacked coin.


The only hijacking is going on from Ver and cronies with their manipulation. Bitcoin Cash will  never be accepted as Bitcoin, not by our community or by outsiders looking in. The only thing they would do if they could pull a flip off (which they can't because it's less popular than cancer) is trash the concept of a store of value.

I could name a dozen coins, even coins derided as shitcoins that are "better tech" right now than both coins. There's only one Bitcoin and you ain't it.

So you don't care that the BTC will become off limits to the users, and will only be for banks (centralized off chain hubs)?
You do realize this is where it is heading with segwit and lightning network?



Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: Yanisumin on November 13, 2017, 08:04:40 PM
what the heck is going on?  https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions

They do this on purpose, intentionally. They try to show the vulnerability of bitcoin to make BCC strong.

People won't get fooled because of jihan wu's manipulative actions. Once again, we won't get fooled into your BCC garbage.

The community will maintain strong even in the bad days and bitcoin will born from its ashed like a phoenix!

"People like to throw things on things that shine"
Bitcoin have been reigning the crypto world for the last 8 years and no one ever comes close to it. There are back and forth feedbacks, opinions and criticism that is being put into its name. Some early new is that famous people are calling it speculative and some physics thingy is making a scratch into its name. The dangerous part is that wrong information nowadays can still a very large dent on the hearts and mind of everyone, especially when things are getting rough, we all know that we have been in this part and we will be on this again in the future and this will continue.
I don't know if the traffic is intentional but I have some unconfirmed transactions too last week and I used CPFP just to make my BTC processed smoothly.
This community has a weakness because they are just riding on the tides of rally, if someone crumble then everyone will, thanks to those people who are remaining strong despite all of this and I'm hoping Sat wont withdraw his BTC on bulk because these will cause a distortion on the price.
Too early to say who will prevail in this era.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: 1969Dave on November 13, 2017, 08:06:08 PM
I would not worry that much, its seems that 'they' are deliberately trying to destabilize this market ....


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: burnedbyfees on November 13, 2017, 08:16:20 PM
yawn
people only screaming about the price

Some people actually want to use it for stuff. That's why it becomes a serious problem when it's too expensive to transact. BCH will never have this problem because no one uses it for anything.

 ;D

When you look at BCH communities they honestly have no endgame. They are against a coin being a store of value and just rant about "superior tech".

The fact is that there are far superior coins out there to both currencies.

The only thing going for Bitcoin is that it's an accepted store of value, it was the coin that started it all and a reserve currency, the only thing going for BCH is that it's a fork of something valuable with a similar name. Neither coin are remarkable compared to newer coins they are both inferior.

If they destroy BTC, (which make no mistake, this is what they're aiming for, check their Reddit) it won't be their coin that claims the throne, at least not for more than a week.

They would destroy their own coin, they would destroy the concept of a "digital gold" store of value, and they would probably kill the whole market if that safety net is gone. Everything will look like tulipmania, twats like Jamie Dimon and Peter Schiff would be proven right and these plotters would go right back to being insignificant nerds, rather than nerds who got lucky.

The whole purpose of Segwit1x(BTC) is to stall the development, increase the transaction fees, and force people into centralized banks on the blockchain (lightningNetwork), which will do transactions off the blockchain.
If you like the decentralized bitcoin project, you should stop all support for the hijacked coin.


The only hijacking is going on from Ver and cronies with their manipulation. Bitcoin Cash will  never be accepted as Bitcoin, not by our community or by outsiders looking in. The only thing they would do if they could pull a flip off (which they can't because it's less popular than cancer) is trash the concept of a store of value.

I could name a dozen coins, even coins derided as shitcoins that are "better tech" right now than both coins. There's only one Bitcoin and you ain't it.

So you don't care that the BTC will become off limits to the users, and will only be for banks (centralized off chain hubs)?
You do realize this is where it is heading with segwit and lightning network?



Again I disagree with your leading question, but the point I've made which you people don't seem to grasp or respond to is that you ain't Bitcoin, only Bitcoin is Bitcoin. And how centralized is it to have megalomaniac Roger Ver decide he wants BCH to be Bitcoin, even though no-one will accept it?

I can give you 1 Xios right now for 1 BCH, it's a fair trade as Xios is faster and less centralized, you can even run a masternode if you have 1000, such awesome.  ::)

We can call it Bitcoin Xios, get a few very rich people on board and we can fill our pockets. We'll be rich.  ::)





Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: freeElectron on November 13, 2017, 08:22:55 PM
yawn
people only screaming about the price

Some people actually want to use it for stuff. That's why it becomes a serious problem when it's too expensive to transact. BCH will never have this problem because no one uses it for anything.

 ;D

When you look at BCH communities they honestly have no endgame. They are against a coin being a store of value and just rant about "superior tech".

The fact is that there are far superior coins out there to both currencies.

The only thing going for Bitcoin is that it's an accepted store of value, it was the coin that started it all and a reserve currency, the only thing going for BCH is that it's a fork of something valuable with a similar name. Neither coin are remarkable compared to newer coins they are both inferior.

If they destroy BTC, (which make no mistake, this is what they're aiming for, check their Reddit) it won't be their coin that claims the throne, at least not for more than a week.

They would destroy their own coin, they would destroy the concept of a "digital gold" store of value, and they would probably kill the whole market if that safety net is gone. Everything will look like tulipmania, twats like Jamie Dimon and Peter Schiff would be proven right and these plotters would go right back to being insignificant nerds, rather than nerds who got lucky.

The whole purpose of Segwit1x(BTC) is to stall the development, increase the transaction fees, and force people into centralized banks on the blockchain (lightningNetwork), which will do transactions off the blockchain.
If you like the decentralized bitcoin project, you should stop all support for the hijacked coin.


The only hijacking is going on from Ver and cronies with their manipulation. Bitcoin Cash will  never be accepted as Bitcoin, not by our community or by outsiders looking in. The only thing they would do if they could pull a flip off (which they can't because it's less popular than cancer) is trash the concept of a store of value.

I could name a dozen coins, even coins derided as shitcoins that are "better tech" right now than both coins. There's only one Bitcoin and you ain't it.

So you don't care that the BTC will become off limits to the users, and will only be for banks (centralized off chain hubs)?
You do realize this is where it is heading with segwit and lightning network?



Again I disagree with your leading question, but the point I've made which you people don't seem to grasp or respond to is that you ain't Bitcoin, only Bitcoin is Bitcoin. And how centralized is it to have megalomaniac Roger Ver decide he wants BCH to be Bitcoin, even though no-one will accept it?

I can give you 1 Xios right now for 1 BCH, it's a fair trade as Xios is faster and less centralized, you can even run a masternode if you have 1000, such awesome.  ::)

We can call it Bitcoin Xios, get a few very rich people on board and we can fill our pockets. We'll be rich.  ::)





This is madness. With lightning network you can kiss the blockchain goodby.
It won't be for you anymore. You will do transactions via banks that settle on the blockchain. Your account can then be controlled, regulated and censored.
It is 100% goodby to decentralization and freedom. You can be shut down at any moment.
BCH is nothing of it. The blockchain is still there for us to use.



Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: ricknamer on November 13, 2017, 08:23:09 PM
I don't know.  Volatility and price swings don't bother me.

Unconfirmed transactions/not being able to react to something fast enough does.

We got down to about 100k unconfirmed this morning from about 181,000 - but we are back over 120,000.  And that with 94% of the hash being pointed at BTC still.

Only 4 blocks in the last hour and 5 minutes.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: burnedbyfees on November 13, 2017, 08:36:16 PM
I don't know.  Volatility and price swings don't bother me.

Unconfirmed transactions/not being able to react to something fast enough does.

We got down to about 100k unconfirmed this morning from about 181,000 - but we are back over 120,000.  And that with 94% of the hash being pointed at BTC still.

Only 4 blocks in the last hour and 5 minutes.

Hello Roger new account holder, you've joined at an opportune time to spread fud and make it seem like BCH has a following.

Welcome to the forum, I'm sure we can look forward to your presence for many years to come and not just during this BCH pump and coordinated attack on Bitcoin.

In the event you're actually a real person rather than one of these sockpuppets, look into the reasons why the transactions are unconfirmed.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: Sirait on November 13, 2017, 08:47:00 PM
what the heck is going on?  https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions
I'm not too worried about this incident, it's just like a little fear in my opinion
now see, Bitcoin prices have started to strengthen again ...


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: ricknamer on November 13, 2017, 09:04:44 PM
I don't know.  Volatility and price swings don't bother me.

Unconfirmed transactions/not being able to react to something fast enough does.

We got down to about 100k unconfirmed this morning from about 181,000 - but we are back over 120,000.  And that with 94% of the hash being pointed at BTC still.

Only 4 blocks in the last hour and 5 minutes.

Hello Roger new account holder, you've joined at an opportune time to spread fud and make it seem like BCH has a following.

Welcome to the forum, I'm sure we can look forward to your presence for many years to come and not just during this BCH pump and coordinated attack on Bitcoin.

In the event you're actually a real person rather than one of these sockpuppets, look into the reasons why the transactions are unconfirmed.

With all due respect - I've owned and supported bitcoin for over 2 years now.  Not as long as many many people here - but long enough that I'm not a total newb. I don't want to get into the antics of whose account is older (mine by 25 days) or who cares more.  But I don't own a single BCH - and I don't have time to list the ways I've supported the small scale mining community.

I'm simply pointing out, as I have in the past, that bitcoin is not decentralized in it's current state.  With a few major players holding all the hashpower the rest of us - and new comers too - are at their mercy at times. Every damn GekkoScience stick, every used antminer s3 we can find should be hooked up and mining in a pro-bitcoin pool.

True - hashpower does not dictate price.  I mentioned I'm not bothered by price volatility.  But it can totally cripple transaction volume.  That is scary

Let's drop the "mining isn't profitable - you're better off investing in bitcoin with fiat and hodling" mantra whenever anyone asks about mining. Of course that is true - but we need the diversified mining in order for bitcoin to remain decentralized!  We need people willing to spend $2000 that they may not see back for 2 years to keep the block chain running without interference.  Not one or two people either.  We need thousands of them.

Not everything we do needs to be for MAXIMIZED profit.  Sometimes we need to make a little less (running a mining rig instead of hodling) for the greater good of the entire community.

Just like the runs on the Greek banks.  Or the 2 hour wait lines in India to get $20 out of an ATM.  It is possible to slow this down (in it's current state) to a point where commerce can't exist.

Will that be fixed one day?  I bet it will.  But don't berate me because I simply mentioned I was concerned by not being able to move my BTC when I wanted to.

Shout out to SlushPool and CKPool for this past weekend.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: burnedbyfees on November 13, 2017, 09:29:41 PM
Okay fine you're not a sockpuppet account but you've still not really look into the reasons why...

https://i.supload.com/1200x0/Hyg0pn9LJz.jpg

It's not an entirely organic problem, it's a coordinated attack.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: ninche on November 13, 2017, 09:31:42 PM

 there are 124k unconfirmed transactions now. do not worry  ;D


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: ricknamer on November 13, 2017, 09:47:04 PM
Okay fine you're not a sockpuppet account but you've still not really look into the reasons why...

https://i.supload.com/1200x0/Hyg0pn9LJz.jpg

It's not an entirely organic problem, it's a coordinated attack.

But that is my whole argument!  I know it is coordinated.  Everyone does.

The problem is that a coordinated attack can take place.  That is the issue that needs to be solved.  How can bitcoin AVOID organized attacks.

Decentralize the mining!


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: chuckblocker on November 13, 2017, 09:49:34 PM
Guys check this site out
https://fork.lol/pow/hashrate

hashrate there, power not there, they barely making a dent, it's like there's not enough power to mine anymore


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: bpcommunity on November 14, 2017, 01:22:56 AM
Bitcoin has gone through the darkest hours and things are slowly coming back


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: romero121 on November 14, 2017, 02:02:39 AM
This unconfirmed transactions has added a value of more than 70 millions worth of bitcoin. Even in the past when price dump and pump takes place such an increased transactions can be seen on the network. This slowly gets decreased little by little and by this time transaction accelerators play a major role.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: yoseph on November 14, 2017, 02:08:47 AM
Bitcoin has gone through the darkest hours and things are slowly coming back
All those transactions are going to be confirmed when the miners realize their mistakes and get back to mining bitcoin once again instead of BCH.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: BAGOBO on November 14, 2017, 03:04:44 AM
what the heck is going on?  https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions
I'm very annoyed lately because my Bitcoin transactions are not successful, there is a transaction in blockchain swells. is this a game?. but I am very grateful for the wallet blockchain support Ethereum so I can make a transaction by swapping my Bitcoin to Ethereum.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: DaedRik3 on November 14, 2017, 05:07:46 AM
This is a huge problem.... still have my transactions unconfirmed since 2 days..


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: moonstash on November 14, 2017, 05:11:56 AM
it's above 170k now.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: Btcvilla on November 14, 2017, 05:16:26 AM
what the heck is going on?  https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions

They do this on purpose, intentionally. They try to show the vulnerability of bitcoin to make BCC strong.

People won't get fooled because of jihan wu's manipulative actions. Once again, we won't get fooled into your BCC garbage.

The community will maintain strong even in the bad days and bitcoin will born from its ashed like a phoenix!

I guess you're right. these few days bitcoin transactions are so slow. yes i think the same with you, this is deliberate to increase bcc.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: BitcoinNewsMagazine on November 14, 2017, 05:43:27 AM
I sent a transaction this afternoon with the fee recommended by https://bitcoinfees.earn.com/ and had confirmation within 20 minutes. People complaining about stuck transactions are not using high enough fees. Some wallets like blockchain.info set fees too low, you need to override and use a higher fee. The memory pool is getting better transactions in the queue are under 95,000 and slowly going down.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: Piercoin on November 14, 2017, 06:02:17 AM
I don't understand what these unconfirmed transaction actually imply.
That the value of BTC is (artificially) lower than in reality?
Or on the contrary, that BCH value will again increase after the transaction are confirmed?
  ???


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: Saha54 on November 14, 2017, 06:11:41 AM
My 4 transactions Stuck for the last 5 days and 0 conformation , is there any way i can add more Fess and make them confirm


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: moonstash on November 14, 2017, 06:34:29 AM
now it's less than 95k what changed so quickly?


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: sqid on November 14, 2017, 06:58:52 AM
I don't understand what these unconfirmed transaction actually imply.
That the value of BTC is (artificially) lower than in reality?
Or on the contrary, that BCH value will again increase after the transaction are confirmed?
  ???

Just means that the transaction has been started but because computer power is lower (gone over to mining BCH) it is taking longer for the transactions to get in a block and join the chain.   Once it is on the chain, it is considered permanent and you can't do anything about it - it is confirmed -   It is considered that 6 confirmations (6 added blocks after your transaction has been added) means that no group could undo the chain and is safe for big $ transfers.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: BingoDog on November 14, 2017, 07:09:44 AM
This issue with unconfirmed transactions is getting solved. Two days ago it was a big problem but I think that miners had some kind of protest because of the cancelled fork and bitcoin cash issue so they were demanding high fees and the whole network was actually stuck. But anyway it's always good to control the fees you are using for the transactions and it's true that sometimes they are not cheap but there is always a price that you have to pay for some service to be done. Bitcoin transactions are not the exception.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: Sithara007 on November 14, 2017, 07:12:31 AM
I sent a transaction this afternoon with the fee recommended by https://bitcoinfees.earn.com/ and had confirmation within 20 minutes. People complaining about stuck transactions are not using high enough fees. Some wallets like blockchain.info set fees too low, you need to override and use a higher fee. The memory pool is getting better transactions in the queue are under 95,000 and slowly going down.

Dude, are you saying that the fee is reasonable? One of my friends paid $20 for a single transaction yesterday, and his transaction got confirmed after 6 hours. And look at the number of unconfirmed transactions right now. It is still around 100K. And this is after a considerable reduction in the number of transactions during the past few days, due to the high fees.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: Pan Troglodytes on November 14, 2017, 08:17:01 AM
I sent a transaction this afternoon with the fee recommended by https://bitcoinfees.earn.com/ and had confirmation within 20 minutes. People complaining about stuck transactions are not using high enough fees. Some wallets like blockchain.info set fees too low, you need to override and use a higher fee. The memory pool is getting better transactions in the queue are under 95,000 and slowly going down.

Dude, are you saying that the fee is reasonable? One of my friends paid $20 for a single transaction yesterday, and his transaction got confirmed after 6 hours. And look at the number of unconfirmed transactions right now. It is still around 100K. And this is after a considerable reduction in the number of transactions during the past few days, due to the high fees.

true, I am refraining from broadcasting my transactions too. But the situation doesn't improve with time, unfortunately.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: cherrymobile on November 16, 2017, 06:32:09 AM
what the heck is going on?  https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions
I'm worrying about that because this is not a normal situation but actually 4 days? I have .001 that need to confirm 5 days before it confirm do i dont know if it happens again but its okay for me now because the transction in mine is now okay.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: secondgarlic on November 17, 2017, 11:41:31 AM
No reason to worry right now. The number has decreased to 40Ks as of now, and it's continuing to fall. So hopefully it was a temporary situation.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: stompix on November 17, 2017, 11:47:25 AM
I don't understand what these unconfirmed transaction actually imply.
That the value of BTC is (artificially) lower than in reality?
Or on the contrary, that BCH value will again increase after the transaction are confirmed?
  ???

None of the above.
It just means there are more transaction that the blockchain can process at the moment.
The price is just speculation.

Bitcoin has gone through the darkest hours and things are slowly coming back
All those transactions are going to be confirmed when the miners realize their mistakes and get back to mining bitcoin once again instead of BCH.

Most of them won't because have such a low fee they will never be processed.
And miners are already back mining the blockchain but the increase in speed won't be that enormous.
I think we wills till hover between 30k and 60k for at least a week.
And of course it depends if somebody is willing to burn another 100 bitcoins to spam the chain .



Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: coinsontheroad on November 17, 2017, 01:56:25 PM
I made a small transaction the other day. It was confirmed in about 10 minutes. No problems. I'm taking this as a good sign.


Title: Re: 134k unconfirmed transactions now. I'm starting to get really worried about this
Post by: Pan Troglodytes on November 30, 2017, 09:34:31 AM
I made a small transaction the other day. It was confirmed in about 10 minutes. No problems. I'm taking this as a good sign.

Maybe. But there are 70k+ transactions now, 90k+ transactions yesterday, and Bitcoin network evidently cannot handle the demand. I am waiting the 3rd day for my TX to confirm! So the proponents of 2X have been right. Bitcoin is heading to a disastrous waterfall and happy that the water got calm (2x has been cancelled).