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Title: BTC or BCH???
Post by: eugenefonts on November 12, 2017, 12:57:23 PM
Quite confusing!😂 Witch one is really the best investment!?😂


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: twofreckles on November 12, 2017, 01:46:27 PM
If from those two to pick only BTC. Thats an easy one. The real question is hold BTC or go after altcoin: NEO,RIPLE,MONERO just to name a few with big long potential.... 


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Inkognito on November 12, 2017, 02:24:23 PM
Quite confusing!😂 Witch one is really the best investment!?😂

There's better coins than BCH to get into, BCH is just another alt.
BTC is the king and WAVES,ARK...


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: xvacator on November 12, 2017, 02:28:29 PM
Quite confusing!😂 Witch one is really the best investment!?😂

i think i will only stick with bitcoin for a long investment but for daily trading or weekly trading, i think if bitcoin cash can give me more profit then i think i want to trade btc-bch or bch-fiat. as long as i can make real money from btc and bch, i think i can do buy and sell and finally make profit with that coins.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Jombitt on November 12, 2017, 03:02:55 PM
Quite confusing!😂 Witch one is really the best investment!?😂

BTC is better and the best for a long term investment and we already know that bch is only a clone of bitcoin and will be forever an altcoin. Bitcoincash price increase recently because some people want to take down bitcoin. They are dumping the bitcoin and make a hype for bitcoincash to increase the price of BCH


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Sports Bettor on November 12, 2017, 04:43:11 PM
BTC is king


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: maarx on November 12, 2017, 05:24:01 PM
Quite confusing!😂 Witch one is really the best investment!?😂
Bitcoin price is not going to drop too much and go blow $6k. As its a hardfork for BCH, the value is increasing which is causing BTC price decrease. Invest in BCH now. The team will surely keep BCH move forward with a standard growth. Ofcourse BTC will rarely have a chance to decrease too muchafter the hardfork ends. So, always its a good investment relying on BTC.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: HunterXZoldyck on November 12, 2017, 09:39:02 PM
I think I will still choose bitcoin for long-term investment


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: GasGeverij on November 12, 2017, 10:26:01 PM
Imagine actually buying into the "Satothi's Vision" big blocker scam lol
My only concern is the low hash rate which actually dropped like 50ish% when BCH started pumping.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: eugenefonts on November 12, 2017, 11:00:05 PM
Quite confusing!😂 Witch one is really the best investment!?😂
Bitcoin price is not going to drop too much and go blow $6k. As its a hardfork for BCH, the value is increasing which is causing BTC price decrease. Invest in BCH now. The team will surely keep BCH move forward with a standard growth. Ofcourse BTC will rarely have a chance to decrease too muchafter the hardfork ends. So, always its a good investment relying on BTC.


Indeed


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: pimvinken on November 13, 2017, 12:14:58 AM
I dont think i will choose bitcoin cash for long term invesment, because BCH is so new to the community, no one has enough brave to invest in alone, despite it has more advantages than btc, but btc price now are so high that can easily attract investors to it, so i think i will need time to change my view to use BCH.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: junoreactor on November 13, 2017, 12:58:33 AM
It is a difficult question to answer: Bitcoin Cash is superior because of block size, transactions speed, and low fees. But it is very young.
Bitcoin is here since 2009, I don't believe Bitcoin will crash so I would still go for Bitcoin and hope the teams behind do something to accelerate transactions very soon.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: shibob on November 13, 2017, 02:25:29 AM
I want to make it quick about future developments of BTC and BCH for reference:

BTC core: Segwit, LN, Mast, Tumblebit, Roostock, Schnorr sigs...
BCH: 8MB block, 8MB block, 8MB block, 8 MB block....

I would not support BCH for its Chinese behind. So what's your choice?


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: huoxuanjyphl591 on November 13, 2017, 03:39:30 AM
I choose BTC, BCH or BTG are only fund management, they should be called altcoin, not much things to do with btc. But it indeed influence the market.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: kissme09 on November 13, 2017, 04:13:14 AM
bitcoin is the number one and coin is quite good and cheaper than bitcoin cash eth is a good option price of eth does not overshadow too much when bitcoin is too high it is cultured from 286-300 but eth has pretty recovered fast when bitcoin stops rising. Bitcoin cash is a pretty good coin bch has faster bitcoin trading speed but does not mean it is the most popular. I think the price of bitcoin cash has suddenly risen dramatically and it's just a drama that will surely return to its old value soon.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: ana zay on November 13, 2017, 08:44:38 AM
Of Bitcoin
because Bitcoin is the most popular and legitimate digital currency.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: kskaclord on November 13, 2017, 09:24:50 AM
Of course, Bitcoin is king. BCH is a total bullshit.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Cordillera on November 13, 2017, 09:47:03 AM
for me Btc is much better to invest than Bch because Btc has the higher in demand therefore it has potential  high rate in the future.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: techjcv on November 13, 2017, 10:14:00 AM
stay loyal, support and choose bitcoin forever. we can be like this, gathered in this forum and become rich because of bitcoin. don't forget it. BTC is like a sea and BCH, BTG is just a divided tributaries.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: PalindromemordnilaP on November 13, 2017, 10:19:39 AM
Quite confusing!😂 Witch one is really the best investment!?😂

From my own point of view, I would always choose BITCOIN above Bitcoin Cash in the sense that Bitcoin is very stable and been there in the cryptoworld dominating all the time. Though BCH scares BTC holders recently, but it is just not enough to prove that BTC will hand over the torch it's holding for a long time.
If you have noticed the market value of BTC that went down recently, then that's the right time for you to invest on it since as of this writing, BTC's market value started to rise again while BCH's falls down back.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: anjohyx on November 13, 2017, 11:47:45 AM
If looking for long term holding , my opinion is BTC because it's a king , how about holding 50% BTC and 50% BCH  ???


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: eugenefonts on November 13, 2017, 12:11:16 PM
If from those two to pick only BTC. Thats an easy one. The real question is hold BTC or go after altcoin: NEO,RIPLE,MONERO just to name a few with big long potential.... 

The best altcoin for me is neo,lisk,iota,strat,ark and gnt


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: ayuwick on November 13, 2017, 02:02:22 PM
I choose BTC .. because any coins it is in the end to BTC also .. but if for BCH trading is very good and potential
if for the long term I choose BTC


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: |Admiral| on November 13, 2017, 04:06:47 PM
Definitely btc is best but don't take bch lightly because they are backed by some of the hard core people from Bitcoin ecosystem. Maybe in years after today both will be parallel in value this could be true.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Qorio on November 13, 2017, 06:08:18 PM
BTC all the way!


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: RoyaLunique on November 13, 2017, 08:22:56 PM
I choose too BTC ...


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: .nuke on November 13, 2017, 09:24:01 PM
BTG & BCH can't offer anything except huge blocks and less fees for now. No smart contracts or anything else. It's silly to determine them as non speculative tools, IMHO.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: FunshareNesialMLMPenipu on November 13, 2017, 09:53:44 PM
iam still choose BTC
but if Btc not improve about sending fee, incraese confirmation time, i think someday BCH can replace BTC position the best crypto curency


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: psibenik on November 13, 2017, 11:39:42 PM
BTC long term.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: taufik123 on November 13, 2017, 11:52:58 PM
Of course, I prefer BTC.
BTC is still king, BCH will not be able to match BTC.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Gerald23 on November 14, 2017, 12:02:58 AM
BITCOIN for me because BITCOIN is the king of all crypto maybe BCH value is easy to get higher but BITCOIN is more legend than BCH


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: uDwcHYO on November 14, 2017, 01:27:59 AM
you can always diversify assets and divide them between these coins in some parts. This can be the capitalization or the degree of confidence in them


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: 4p0l4k4y on November 14, 2017, 04:42:26 AM
Btc is the number one option bud however bch is now gaining its popularity and some people are even speculating that it will replace btc as the main cryptocurrency. It depends on you where to invest and which one is more profutable for you in the long run.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Rosewater Foundation on November 14, 2017, 04:43:21 AM
bitcoin gold is now?


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: SriNr on November 14, 2017, 05:20:31 AM
i think btc is better for investment in the future,,,  and i hope i can get more btc from this.. ;D


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: WhatsBitcoin on November 14, 2017, 06:02:52 AM
https://i.redditmedia.com/cd_b3G1EUQWU2jsXLCQtXFGmI1A2NecQ6IogQocT2TY.jpg?w=918&s=b885a2bca4f9a1cbf9c3335778ad2d98


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: ImHash on November 14, 2017, 06:34:18 AM
How in the hell that little Chinese managed to do all of the stuff very well explained and exposed on the picture above? :D He must have been very smart to do this all by himself. Honestly I don't mind any bitcoin fork, They have provided me with a decent profit over the past few month, I'm just mad because I wasn't able to dump some of my BCH during the ATH yesterday.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: WhatsBitcoin on November 14, 2017, 06:36:51 AM
How in the hell that little Chinese managed to do all of the stuff very well explained and exposed on the picture above? :D He must have been very smart to do this all by himself. Honestly I don't mind any bitcoin fork, They have provided me with a decent profit over the past few month, I'm just mad because I wasn't able to dump some of my BCH during the ATH yesterday.

Ever seen a fake Rolex? This is what they do best. Knock-offs.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Ridwan Fauzi on November 14, 2017, 08:34:10 AM
Until now i still belive in bitcoin, we know bitcoin is the parent of cryptocurrency, meanwhile bitcoin cash is fraction from bitcoin. Apart from yesterday's incident that's very impresive for bitcoin cash, but for the moment bitcoin cash back to dump.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: minldem on November 14, 2017, 08:41:05 AM
If you plan to invest nowadays, bch looks better than btc but you cannot be sure as bch increases steady like btc does for a long time. I think in the long run, btc always beats these coins. On the other hand, we cannot see the expected rates on btc recently. However, I would say btc at the end of the day. Obviously, this is not an investment advice.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: TorbiK on November 14, 2017, 11:54:49 AM
In financial markets, nothing is predicted ahead of time with a guarantee. The best option will always be to diversify the risks. Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash are not bad tools, in my opinion, invest in both.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: eugenefonts on November 14, 2017, 12:18:24 PM
It is a difficult question to answer: Bitcoin Cash is superior because of block size, transactions speed, and low fees. But it is very young.
Bitcoin is here since 2009, I don't believe Bitcoin will crash so I would still go for Bitcoin and hope the teams behind do something to accelerate transactions very soon.

Nice opinion 👍👌


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Bbhunter on November 14, 2017, 12:25:40 PM
Btc! Bhc wants to centralize it.. :/ everything btc stands against


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Zandar on November 14, 2017, 12:33:34 PM
BCH became popular because of it's transaction speed, but that is only at this time, by next year the 2MB block add will have been capped and their transactions will start to go slower and slower as well, so their speed is only temporary. Also the miners switch to whatever is more beneficial to mine, last week bitcoins difficulty was higher than BCH, so most miners switched to mining BCH which led to the rising of BCH price, now that the difficulty has catched up most miners switched back to BTC again. This happens now and then when miners see an alt coin being more profitable at the current time, they will switch into mining that untill it is not and switch again, it's pure bussiness.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: barisbayin on November 14, 2017, 01:13:48 PM
BCH is really popular this days. but If you know technical anaysis you can choose when you but BCH or BTC


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: darkr on November 14, 2017, 02:11:15 PM
Do not even hesitate. Do not pay much attention at this hype about Bitcoin Cash. BTC will go on growing, and as we see, since the night of November, 12 it has again strengthened its positions. Investing into BTC is better in my opinion.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Guber4 on November 14, 2017, 03:51:46 PM
BTC have more muscles even the technology is older.
Every where you go you will hear about Bitcoin. We have seen some weak spots during the recent attack of Bitcoin Cash.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: catapult on November 14, 2017, 04:56:33 PM
In financial markets, nothing is predicted ahead of time with a guarantee. The best option will always be to diversify the risks. Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash are not bad tools, in my opinion, invest in both.

I have never seen the bitcoin cash as a good investment way in the past and I think I will not in the future too. I think it is better to focus on bitcoin and ethereum.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: TorbiK on November 15, 2017, 07:15:23 AM
In financial markets, nothing is predicted ahead of time with a guarantee. The best option will always be to diversify the risks. Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash are not bad tools, in my opinion, invest in both.

I have never seen the bitcoin cash as a good investment way in the past and I think I will not in the future too. I think it is better to focus on bitcoin and ethereum.
The third cryptocurrency for capitalization will not just disappear and will not collapse in price. All the money to invest in it is everyone's business. But as a form of institutional diversification, the BCH option is not bad.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Bitsurfer333 on November 15, 2017, 07:52:11 AM
BTC will always stay on top of the game!


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: ahkiatt on November 15, 2017, 08:03:27 AM
In these uncertain times, may not be a bad idea to stay out of the BTC BCH drama and go for other established alts instead. ETH, XMR, XRP just to name a few. Lets me sleep better at night haha.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: elpiji on November 15, 2017, 08:15:33 AM
bch for now being popular and bitcoin is back in the starting position for now. but both have good potential in a profitable investment


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: truncus on November 15, 2017, 08:20:11 AM
BTC will always stay on top of the game!

always btc. because it is original.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Jorosss on November 15, 2017, 08:59:02 AM
Quite confusing!😂 Witch one is really the best investment!?😂

BITCOIN dude. BCH will always be a clown copy coin of BTC. Do not be trick by whale who only want is to get profit with bch.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: gikere on November 15, 2017, 10:38:03 AM
BTC for life, it up to the new high every time.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Pamadar on November 15, 2017, 10:43:53 AM
Quite confusing!😂 Witch one is really the best investment!?😂

BITCOIN dude. BCH will always be a clown copy coin of BTC. Do not be trick by whale who only want is to get profit with bch.
bitcoin will always be the best so dont confused yourself mate just needed to research hard and see where your interest would be, bitcoin cash will just make some good money for those who knows to play with pumped and dumped system, bitcoin will stay there at the top of the crypto industry no matter
what will happen even another new coin showed up.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Jolayemiinline1 on November 15, 2017, 07:35:15 PM
I think I will prefer BCH because it's just coming up and can hit and hammer well than BTC..... THANKS


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: chennappa121 on November 15, 2017, 07:53:36 PM
I sure that you can invest in bitcoin cash you get good profits in upcoming days, because loat of development happening at bitcoin can.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Eleven86 on November 15, 2017, 07:58:41 PM
Bitcoin and Bitcoin cash both are on same scale. Both are good for investment. Bitcoin cash is good in transaction speed and less transaction fees. The price of bitcoin increase day by day. In future surely it will have tremendous growth than Bitcoin cash.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: masterrex on November 16, 2017, 10:10:45 AM
BCH has future too But BTC is the dominant one so better used the two instead choosing one thats it 8)


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: usekevin on November 16, 2017, 02:02:39 PM
Quite confusing!😂 Witch one is really the best investment!?😂



BITCOIN dude. BCH will always be a clown copy coin of BTC. Do not be trick by whale who only want is to get profit with bch.
bitcoin will always be the best so dont confused yourself mate just needed to research hard and see where your interest would be, bitcoin cash will just make some good money for those who knows to play with pumped and dumped system, bitcoin will stay there at the top of the crypto industry no matter
what will happen even another new coin showed up.

My suggestion is bitcoin as compared to BCH.Bitcoin price is always greater than BCH. The raise of bitcoin price in time period is greater than the BCH price in that time period.You can check the past graphical raise of Bitcoin Price with the current price to Know the fact.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: IceVirus on November 16, 2017, 03:13:03 PM
As a bitcoin maximalist I can not condone long term possessions of BCH.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Hammonds on November 16, 2017, 04:35:39 PM
of course i choose btc because btc will always be the parent, and for bch even though few days ago there has been a very high pump i feel it still will not be able to surpass btc and it is really happening now the bch price is throwing back.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Tigerheart3026 on November 16, 2017, 08:35:23 PM
Quite confusing!😂 Witch one is really the best investment!?😂

We all know that BCH had no match with Bitcoin. Bch is more on hyping only while bitcoin is not, instead it has many features and usages where it can give to its users. Like what is happening now the rice is kicking again close to 8000$.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: josephdenne on November 16, 2017, 08:52:00 PM
Easy: BTC.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: MrSpasybo on November 16, 2017, 09:18:34 PM
I think in near future BCC will be ~2000$ and BTG ~1000$!


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Rosewater Foundation on November 17, 2017, 05:55:38 AM
rodger verr bad man, many people lose the bitcoins now :'(


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Honglee on November 17, 2017, 08:12:44 AM
$BTC only,
but if $BCH damm dip, why not.. hehe

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Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: MUG1WARA on November 17, 2017, 08:21:20 AM
I think the best investment is btc. because bitcoin is able to control its price well. yesterday had a decline in prices when bch rise, but now bitcoin has returned and getting higher


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Kramz on November 17, 2017, 08:58:49 AM
for now BTC dominates the crypto but no one knows for sure who will be the king for the next few years to come. BTC should upgrade too.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: hheight on November 17, 2017, 10:07:08 AM
Good old Bitcoin is always the best choice. Only if you want to gamble - BCH is here to satisfy your desires ;D


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Rosewater Foundation on November 17, 2017, 11:56:06 AM
does the jihan wu goes to the jail now?


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Chronos_angel on November 17, 2017, 12:59:56 PM
Quite confusing!😂 Witch one is really the best investment!?😂

The best invesment is bitcoin


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Rosewater Foundation on November 17, 2017, 01:04:12 PM
the fake bitcoins, be carefuls heree


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Ali Akbar Torang on November 17, 2017, 02:02:53 PM
I see both are interesting, but bitcoin will raise by it nature and bch got a lot of homework for build trust to people and common used.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: liseff3 on November 17, 2017, 05:14:28 PM
Quite confusing!😂 Witch one is really the best investment!?😂
I`m in love with Bitcoin.
The main reason Bitcoin has a bigger market cap than any other cryptocurrency is because it has had the first-mover advantage and therefore the biggest network.
Despite their different approaches, Bitcoin Cash is very much a direct competitor to Bitcoin, and probably only one kind of Coin is going to have the lion’s share of users, merchants, investors, and miners. And that is Bitcoin.
However, if Bitcoin cannot soon offer competitive fee rates, it will continue to lose users and merchants to Bitcoin Cash. Investors will follow, and then the miners.



Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: vaughn125 on November 17, 2017, 05:44:05 PM
Lol. I wouldn't even consider comparing bitcoin to bitcoin cash. Bitcoin cash just isn't worthy to be  compared to bitcoin. Period.
Simplyse it is so damn clear to see that bitcoin cash is just another low quality coin that is being pumped up like hell by a lot of big whales that supports it so that it can stand out. Not to mention all its obvious atracks on bitcoin just to make bitcoin cash look better.
So if you are considering to imvest in bitcoincash, then i suggest you get as far away as you can from that fishy coin.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Rocky Handsome on November 17, 2017, 06:19:36 PM
Bitcoin is the king of all crypto currencies. Whereas Bitcoin cash is its sister. Both can't be compared side by side since bitcoin cash will simply deal into the abyss if bitcoin dies but not vice versa.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: ayeshakakolly on November 17, 2017, 06:21:23 PM
According to me,BTC is KING coin in cryptocurrency, BCH just alter coin Like others coin.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Hafas Rama on November 17, 2017, 06:49:11 PM
Quite confusing!😂 Witch one is really the best investment!?😂
I myself prefer BTC because this coin is good to invest.
with more and more enthusiasts, prices continue to rise and increase.
and now it reaches a very fantastic price maybe until the end of the year bitcoin will continue to increase.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Rosewater Foundation on November 17, 2017, 07:09:39 PM
the fake bitcoins are bad?


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: join2 on November 17, 2017, 07:27:33 PM
i prefer investing bitcoin instead of BCH, bitcoin ia the best digital currency with higher price growth then other altcoins


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: hackl3r on November 18, 2017, 12:54:50 AM
At this point i dont really know, maybe when btc arrives 15000 bch will increase its price


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: airdrophunter on November 18, 2017, 03:49:23 AM
Quite confusing!😂 Witch one is really the best investment!?😂

Invest on coins who has the most volatile market value, tested and stable for a very long time. Bitcoin cash's market value went off the charts last week but didn't last that long because Bitcoin is charging back again and even hits the 8k USD mark. So if i were you, i am going to invest in bitcoin.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: faragly on November 18, 2017, 05:27:22 AM
Good old Bitcoin is always the best choice. Only if you want to gamble - BCH is here to satisfy your desires ;D
I completely agree! Forks are many - bitcoin alone. It's bad for me when I think about people who sold bitcoin at $5500 and bought BCH for $2800 )))


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: tomasking on November 18, 2017, 06:47:24 AM
Hello Guys,
i think that BCH is better than BTC but BTC is only one and BCH is and will be only altcoin.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: fourpiece on November 18, 2017, 08:01:07 AM
Quite confusing!😂 Witch one is really the best investment!?😂
Pick the one that can last for a long time and remain strong even how many times it falls.
And that is bitcoin, no one cna surpassed the power of bitcoin.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Jaeysmoke on November 18, 2017, 02:07:25 PM
If Bitcoin Cash gets listed on Coinbase, I'm all in. If Bitcoin is a storage of value, we need another coin for everyday spending (who want's to spend something always appreciating in value, slow transaction times, fees, etc.) We will go with Litecoin I believe until CB list's Bcash and things start to get interesting.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: HDAMMO on November 18, 2017, 09:36:11 PM
I believe in BCH, on a long term that would work better since no1 is ready for those high transaction costs


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: WhatsBitcoin on November 19, 2017, 03:42:29 AM
the fake bitcoins are bad?

is a fake gucci handbag 'bad'? idk


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Ridwan Fauzi on November 19, 2017, 06:47:56 AM
I don't know so far i  still belive in bitcoin, how much risk for invest in bitcoin and how long bitcoin stay alive i just wanna invest on bitcoin, because he the first cryptocurrency,  and i think there will be no coin in the crypto world if the bitcoin does not exist. Personally if invest in BCH is very risk because the price very volutile.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: PrisonerOfLies on November 19, 2017, 06:53:47 AM
While I agree that 2MB blocksize is needed to buy time to implement another solution for micro transaction, I disagree the ethics of Bitcoin Cash.

Also large block size is not without its own problem - the mining will be even more centralized than it already is.



Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: TonyFat on November 19, 2017, 09:18:19 AM
bitcoin, although bitcoin cash is faster


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Tamim121 on November 19, 2017, 04:01:03 PM
Always and absolutely BTC. BTC is like a boss. BTC is trusted for long time investment. BCH is a clone of BTC. So BTC is best. BTC rate increase day by day, so investment is more profitable in BTC.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: louisdo273 on November 21, 2017, 03:13:13 AM
I will still choose BTC  ;D ;D ;D. BTC No.1


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: spiderm4n15 on November 21, 2017, 03:53:39 AM
Quite confusing!😂 Witch one is really the best investment!?😂

i think BTC is the best investment from the other altcoin
because BTC more people in world know it


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Rosewater Foundation on November 21, 2017, 05:28:45 AM
the fake bitcoins not as securely :'(


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: portgas on November 21, 2017, 06:35:18 AM
Quite confusing!😂 Witch one is really the best investment!?😂

i think BTC is the best investment from the other altcoin
because BTC more people in world know it
i also think btc is the best investment. with the great potential of bitcoin will make the people who invest there provide a lot of benefits


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: hawkins on November 21, 2017, 06:52:23 AM
Quite confusing!😂 Witch one is really the best investment!?😂

i think BTC is the best investment from the other altcoin
because BTC more people in world know it
i also think btc is the best investment. with the great potential of bitcoin will make the people who invest there provide a lot of benefits

of course bitcoin is still better than bch. although bch never reached a high price, but it is very unstable. I prefer to hold bitcoin, because the potential of bitcoin, much larger.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: justdimin on November 21, 2017, 07:09:57 PM
Quite confusing!😂 Witch one is really the best investment!?😂

i think BTC is the best investment from the other altcoin
because BTC more people in world know it
i also think btc is the best investment. with the great potential of bitcoin will make the people who invest there provide a lot of benefits
I really wonder why anyone will even find it confusing. BCH is not even a coin anyone should even be thinking to have a huge prospect in the long run. Sure, we cannot predict the future, but comparing BCH with BTC is like comparing Volks with Lambo. Come on! I even wonder why people would think BCH is a competition in the first place to be able to fall for the idea of trying to invest in it.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: puertocasino on November 21, 2017, 07:27:37 PM
Quite confusing!😂 Witch one is really the best investment!?😂


I am sure that if bitcoin does not implement the option to make payments like coffee or other, bitcoin cash will take the lead, but since I do not believe that bitcoin millionaires want to lose their profit taking, they will implement some solution and bitcoin cash will go to 0.

or bitcoin could decay, it's a matter of rumors.

when there was panic btc it went to 3000 usd.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: ritsel02 on November 22, 2017, 09:32:49 AM
I go with BTC, more tested by time and less risky to invest.But as BCH had just born and started to grow with more benefits and lower transaction fees,I guess it is also quite good to take the opportunity to invest for it but must take it slowly and observe how the coin's value grow.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Serg22 on November 22, 2017, 10:36:06 AM
Two of these coins, I would choose only BTC, is the basis of the crypto currency market is relatively stable.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: brenantot on November 23, 2017, 09:13:49 PM
For me of course I choose bitcoin because bitcoin this is the mostly trusted and this are good currency now to invest and always higher 


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: maarx on November 23, 2017, 09:35:08 PM
For me of course I choose bitcoin because bitcoin this is the mostly trusted and this are good currency now to invest and always higher  
A good return is always expeted when investing your money now into BTC. I would suggest you to go with ETH now. The growth of ETH is healthy now. If you see ETH growth trend in coinmarketcap.com, you would find a high growth in four days. So now it would be advisable to invest some in ETH before the vlaue goes more higher.  


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: anti-scam on November 24, 2017, 01:58:34 AM
If you want a challenge you have to hold Altcoin for the long term, or short term.
Altcoin is more interesting, the movement of coins varies, you can get 100% or more profit within a certain timeframe.
But the risk is also great, please make your choice in the end you will get Bitcoin.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: lucas2008 on November 24, 2017, 02:02:45 AM
With me, BTC can't be replaced, because it is King of altcoin.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Tonydman97 on November 24, 2017, 05:55:00 AM
BTC is backed by a big and powerful country, while BCH was created by another much bigger and more powerful country. So this might be a toe-toe battle even though these two countries have been just neighbors. BTC v's BCH? I'm with the original one.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: lucas2008 on November 24, 2017, 06:18:18 AM
Why is not BTG ? but is BCH, I see the BTG is more


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: criptolover12 on November 24, 2017, 07:09:40 AM
I am always think that btc is some kind a old technology but bth is not a coin to replace it. however trading on bch is very profitable.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Tavarez on November 24, 2017, 12:10:47 PM
BCH is following the legacy of founder Satoshi, to make the cryptocurrency useful for payments and not only a storage value, what now Bitcoin represents.
If you are clever, buy a currency when is down and sell when is high. Bitcoin is now high, and high is also the risk around it.
Capacities of growth for Bitcoins are less with the time, where Bitcoin Cash has huge possibilities to grow. Bigger blockchain capacity, faster transaction time, very low fees and mainly to be a useful currency for payments.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: dmty.0809 on November 24, 2017, 12:23:39 PM
I still choose btc, because the price is always stable  ;D


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: lutfi-hasan on November 24, 2017, 01:34:28 PM
Quite confusing!😂 Witch one is really the best investment!?😂
I prefer BTC because I better understand BTC. At BTC I can mine with signature. On the signature I can do a question and answer session that must meet the signature requirements based on the rank we already have.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: mensha on November 24, 2017, 01:47:33 PM
BTC can't replace with BCH because BTC is a well established and most trust-able coin. So as I think, it is not possible to compare BTC and BCH in any way.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: cryptoblazter on November 24, 2017, 07:01:22 PM
Quite confusing!😂 Witch one is really the best investment!?😂
Do I need to answer that question? perhaps you now what could many of here in this forum would say, isn't? You knew how strong and established bitcoin, while BCH was just just being created this year only and bitcoin was already 9 years. So, of course I'm still with Bitcoin.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: cadreamsurf on November 24, 2017, 07:49:37 PM
I choose BTC. It's real and true bitcoin. BCH - speculate coin and nobody know what happen with price(only owners).


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Gameflip ICO on November 24, 2017, 10:14:35 PM
Quite confusing!😂 Witch one is really the best investment!?😂
Of course Bitcoin, not Bitcoin Cash


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Hammonds on November 25, 2017, 12:30:57 AM
Quite confusing!😂 Witch one is really the best investment!?😂
in both investments have a good role, for BTC I think it is very suitable to make long-term investments and BCH for the short term.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: MartPlatform on November 25, 2017, 03:44:31 AM
I will choose BTC, BCH is just a valueless clone from our king, Bitcoin. So I think there should not be a question compare a King with a Junk.  :)


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: yonjitsu on November 25, 2017, 05:41:36 AM
I'd probably pic BTC since BTC has been the foundation of cryptocurrencies and is tested already as a long term currency. As to its brother BCH, it is not stable yet and there's a long way for this cryptocurrency to prove its fellow cryptos and investors about its longevity.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: alisafidel58 on November 25, 2017, 08:20:51 AM
You dont need to be confused or what so ever, BTC is the best investment out there in the crypto world.
Bitcoin has been out in the market for years and has built its reputation and solidify its grounds by making user more sufficient when it come to online payment,buying goods at an online shop,trading etc.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: kyori on November 25, 2017, 08:41:58 AM
Quite confusing!😂 Witch one is really the best investment!?😂
Of course it is bitcoin, what happened previously was just an obvious manipulated attack on bitcoin and look at the market price between bitcoin and bitcoin cash it seems that bitcoin has won the game. Bitcoin is much more recommended than other currencies.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Serg22 on November 25, 2017, 03:16:47 PM
I choose bitcoin, for me he is the guarantor of my long-term investment.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: tengek37 on November 25, 2017, 04:26:53 PM
BTC and BCH are great for investment but in my opinion if compared BTC have more future for investment. for BCH I do not know whether to survive or not.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Bjazen on November 25, 2017, 06:44:04 PM
I think BCH will increase alot but, Camon guys it is BTC everything start with it


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Elby on November 26, 2017, 01:55:19 AM
Well I am thinking of trading my 0.5 Bitcoin Cash for BTC (or possible ETH), smart move?


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Monta3002 on November 26, 2017, 10:29:37 AM
Quite confusing!😂 Witch one is really the best investment!?😂
It is no other bitcoin, look at the market price of bitcoin it really increased too much after the manipulation attack and look at bitcoin cash right now it drops so high, the increased price  was just temporary. Bitcoin is the KING.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Rabeya on November 26, 2017, 01:19:25 PM
There is no doubt that Bitcoin is the best investment opportunity for you. You can buy BTC and hold for future.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: dr.pop on November 26, 2017, 01:25:08 PM
BTC, it was first, it is first, the strongest and most established crypto...


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: bakekang on November 26, 2017, 02:24:40 PM
Btc for sure,  for long term investment i will pick bitcoin of course.
You dont know bitcoin might triple its current price after 1 or two years.  And thats already a huge profit.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: speaktome on November 26, 2017, 04:05:01 PM
Quite confusing!😂 Witch one is really the best investment!?😂
Of course it is bitcoin, what happened previously was just an obvious manipulated attack on bitcoin and look at the market price between bitcoin and bitcoin cash it seems that bitcoin has won the game. Bitcoin is much more recommended than other currencies.
BTC has much more popularity among users,that's not to mention that it's more widely accepted,in this way there is not much to discuss,the advantage is on the side of BTC although I really do not know if it's always going to remain the same,but this is how it happens at this time.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: phreakk on November 26, 2017, 08:09:38 PM
Quite confusing!😂 Witch one is really the best investment!?😂

That is opinion-based. No one knows which is the best one. Both have their pros and cons, but I'd go for BTC.

BCH doesn't provide significant improvements and isn't as widely accepted as BTC, so I'd stick with BTC for now..
Though it's really opinion-based and no one's opinion is the best.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: DariaBriklaiz on November 26, 2017, 08:38:08 PM
Of course bitcoin. This is the hugest cryptocurrency now and rising new targets from week to week


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: desteemy on November 26, 2017, 09:23:48 PM
BTC is a symbol of cryptocurrencies. People have trust in this coin, even if fees are high and transactions are slow, BTC will stay with us. Most forks acts against him, so it won't be immortal. BCH has support from big miner, so as for today it's biggest concurent on bitcoin's level (compared to bitcoin gold, bitcoin black, etc...). So if you are looking for long investment pick Bitcoin. BCH is alt for me.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: ceferov on November 26, 2017, 10:17:13 PM
All people were complaining about centralized BTC and BCH is more centralized and as we see they easily pump and dump it. I would never keep BCH as investment because it's just airdrop coin which shared with people


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: mia_houston on November 27, 2017, 05:05:55 AM
Quite confusing!😂 Witch one is really the best investment!?😂
I think both are a good investments, but in my opinion, i choose BTC for a long term investment, do not confusing about that


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Ayiranorea on November 27, 2017, 08:32:50 AM
Quite confusing!😂 Witch one is really the best investment!?😂
I think both are a good investments, but in my opinion, i choose BTC for a long term investment, do not confusing about that
I too have the similar stand, the plan is to keep bitcoin for the long term investment because what the growth happens with bitcoin is much big compared to bitcoin cash. Being affordable bitcoin cash will be used for the short term profiting through scheduled buying and selling.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: crypt0heaven on November 27, 2017, 09:19:20 AM
Quite confusing!😂 Witch one is really the best investment!?😂

BTC is the one you want to be investing in, BCH is a high profile ponzi scam


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: h0lybyte on November 27, 2017, 10:03:42 AM
Quite confusing!😂 Witch one is really the best investment!?😂
Make sure to choose only bitcoin for your investment purpose as of now. Bitcoin cash is stucked at its previous rate and also there are no predictions on its surge.
This time, bitcoin market has began to hike and will not stop surging in half way. For your confidence, make sure to read price chart.
People are buying bitcoin with more confident and they freel tranquility holding it. In just a week, bitcoin will defenitely be traded at $15k


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: NeoTech42 on November 27, 2017, 01:16:36 PM
BCH is more centralized than BTC ;-)
BTC is rather a gold storage, rather than BTH which is a mean of payment.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: artmen007 on November 27, 2017, 02:21:23 PM
we now clearly see in what to invest. What cryptocurrency deserves respect and support. This is without a doubt BTC. It's just a symbol of the cryptocurrency market. And TKA has to be at least 10 years. When people have seen the growth of BITCOIN over 1000 thought the price space and is now easily the bitcoin and not noticed almost crossed the mark of 10,000. I think in 2-3 years 100.000 realistic figure. If echest that more than 20 trillion dollars lie in different banks. And here's a highly profitable asset


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Getcoinsite on November 27, 2017, 02:42:10 PM
Quite confusing!😂 Witch one is really the best investment!?😂

BTC is better and the best for a long term investment and we already know that bch is only a clone of bitcoin and will be forever an altcoin. Bitcoincash price increase recently because some people want to take down bitcoin. They are dumping the bitcoin and make a hype for bitcoincash to increase the price of BCH
but they didn't succeed instead lots of users got trapped from that idea of beating bitcoin now the bitcoincash price stopped from increasing and the bitcoin itself continuous to grow and almost hits $10,000 per bitcoin,so what are we waiting for  SUPPORT BITCOIN


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Prettymie on November 27, 2017, 03:52:58 PM
Btc is a way having of bhc..it could be invest a btc so that you can have a bhc ..


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Bloody Mary on November 27, 2017, 05:11:48 PM
I think I will still choose bitcoin for long-term investment


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: passwordnow on November 27, 2017, 07:47:04 PM
I'll go for both of it, I never dumped BCH and don't have plans of doing so now. Bitcoin of course my major coin that has a bigger percentage of where my wealth is. I'll keep on holding these two coins as they are both profitable to me. I don't to want to compare on which is the best investment because as long as these two are giving me some good profit that is making my time worth it, I'm in.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: dainvpt on November 28, 2017, 03:16:34 AM
I think BCT or BCH will full volum, i  hope altcoin, Altcoin top 10 very best 


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: cryptomeocon on November 28, 2017, 04:13:43 AM
BTC still king of crypto


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: carlisle1 on November 28, 2017, 05:14:41 AM
Quite confusing!😂 Witch one is really the best investment!?😂

BTC is better and the best for a long term investment and we already know that bch is only a clone of bitcoin and will be forever an altcoin. Bitcoincash price increase recently because some people want to take down bitcoin. They are dumping the bitcoin and make a hype for bitcoincash to increase the price of BCH
another bitcoin clone bitcoincash i believe in what you have said mate
Bitcoin will always be the best long term investment and even for day trade in
Bitcoin we are 100% secure not like that bitcoin cash only rely on some personality
That can just make decision to leave the crypto and take their capital and boom
Investors of bcc will cry flr help with those others who trusted well that bcc


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: pinoyden on November 28, 2017, 05:55:27 AM
Quite confusing!😂 Witch one is really the best investment!?😂

BTC is the one you want to be investing in, BCH is a high profile ponzi scam

actually both of them are good and have a potential for invesment but how can you say that bitcoincash is  a high profile ponzi scam? have you been scammed before by bitcoincash?  bitcoincash is just another altcoin that you can invest and trade. overall , dividing your capital on both coins will be the best idea and can give you much return in just a matter of time because both of them are highly volatile and will more likely to increase and pump among other coins plus they also got a good support of people and community behind them.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Starla on November 28, 2017, 06:22:30 AM
both are also good between BTC and BCH but I prefer BTC because invest profitable and have the highest price and many in the interest


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: GambleTime on November 28, 2017, 06:23:13 AM
BTC is the strongest coin in the world and probably as currency nowadays, being  more valuable than visa!


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: eann014 on November 28, 2017, 08:49:12 AM
Quite confusing!😂 Witch one is really the best investment!?😂
Of course, bitcoin is still the King of all coins, Bitcoin Cash? I think ETH is better than bitcoin cash. I think ETH is next to bitcoin so if you are choosing between the two then bitcoin is my choice.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: profit-shooter on November 28, 2017, 09:11:55 AM
Hey! There is no doubt that BTC in the long term will go very high. So my choice is BTC. But now think we should wait untill correction is in place!


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: wndrbr3d on November 28, 2017, 09:30:00 AM
BitcoinCash is heavily advertisied by Roger Ver. That`s just a common way for him to earn on people who saw growth of BCH and bought it. He is very powerfull - he can pump/dump any coin. Be careful with BCH. BTC - is the only true Bitcoin.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: btc78 on November 28, 2017, 09:49:44 AM
Quite confusing!😂 Witch one is really the best investment!?😂

i think i will only stick with bitcoin for a long investment but for daily trading or weekly trading, i think if bitcoin cash can give me more profit then i think i want to trade btc-bch or bch-fiat. as long as i can make real money from btc and bch, i think i can do buy and sell and finally make profit with that coins.
Still bitcoin is the best investment or in trading,although bch has some
Good movements in market but bitcoin stays the domination of the crypto
Worl thats why bitcoin is bitcoin.never doubt about the capability and
Capacity of bitcoin because it lasted for longer year here and breaking all
The record other coins cant have


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: dharnamonitor on November 28, 2017, 12:55:49 PM
Bitcoin off course, even though FUD happens on btc in many noob investors, the crypto would definitely cope up with those things and will try to recover. Like what happen these days, the bitcoin price drops to $10k even though there are many investors who panicked and jumped at bch before due to bch's price rally. The only cryptocurrency that'll win is bitcoin.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: hermanrz on November 29, 2017, 01:04:52 AM
I am thinking of a good investment is a BTC. Because the current price continues to go up and down if not too significant so that more profitable.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: shushu9977 on November 29, 2017, 01:52:22 AM
Both BTC and BCH are in good position.In my opinion, BTC is one of the best investment for anyone.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: barlo357 on November 29, 2017, 02:38:44 AM
I think you really can't compare BTC to BCH. Because bitcoin is still the best cryptocurrency that existed. BCH will take a lot of steps to beat bitcoin. But because BCH has the lower price you can still invest in it or you can consider other altcoins that have a future.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Rosewater Foundation on November 29, 2017, 08:31:13 AM
http://www.bitcoincashscam.com
is bad?


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: chaves05 on November 29, 2017, 08:40:12 AM
it's really difficult Question to answer. BCH is too young to compared with BTC. but BCH have low fees, transaction speed and blocksize. i choose btc because BTC as a market leader in cryptocurrency


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: shishi-icy on November 29, 2017, 08:51:34 AM
This I think is a tough question to answer because both of them have merits. If we are going to talk about their differences, advantages and disadvantages to each other, then we have to stay here until winter becomes summer. It's that long. So for me, since I think they are both good, I will be investing to both. BCH has yet to prove itself because it is too young, but it is already promising. But BTC is already tried and tested. It is battle scarred but keeps on going and going and in the recent turns of event seems no sign of slowing down. So why choose? If you can choose both?


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: asuusa on November 29, 2017, 10:04:24 AM
Good old Bitcoin is always the best choice. Only if you want to gamble - BCH, Gold, DIAMOND, Bitcoin Trump...  ;D is here to satisfy your desires Grin


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Crypto_Coin60 on November 29, 2017, 10:13:03 AM
Of course always BTC i think. BTC is king  ;)


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Pebryan on November 29, 2017, 01:43:24 PM
BTC is a mecca of all types of coins that exist. all exchange coins to BTC. so BTC is the best in compare with BCH. ;D


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: bantalguling on November 29, 2017, 02:30:52 PM
I prefer btc because btc is better than bch, bch fund management is called altcoin, in my opinion btc is king coin


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Fizpok on November 29, 2017, 05:00:31 PM
BTC


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: thunderbitz2717 on November 30, 2017, 03:35:54 AM
Quite confusing!😂 Witch one is really the best investment!?😂

We all know what i the best answer for this question, and the best was bitcoin investment not BCH, and there are so mnay things that we need to consider why bitcoin, first was it has big a community who believed in it, second there are so many merchants all around the world that accepting bitcoin as payment, then money transfer is one of the major usages of bitcoin by its users.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Seeker#9 on November 30, 2017, 06:27:51 AM
It's bitcoin when it come to good investment choice because of its continuing price uptrend. Bitcoin cash is still a newcomer and not yet proven for a long term investment.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: f80 on November 30, 2017, 09:51:28 AM
BTC is and probably will always be the king.. ::)


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: preico on November 30, 2017, 10:44:14 AM
BTC is and probably will always be the king.. ::)

Bitcoin will never give up his place to another coin. Everyone loves and trusts bitcoin. And BCC is a coin for speculators. It seems to me that soon everyone will forget about it


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: ongels on November 30, 2017, 01:15:04 PM
Preferred to BTC because this is the most popular and the value keeps growing. BCH is to far from btc based on its value.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: cryptofuturologist on November 30, 2017, 04:41:51 PM
Preferred to BTC because this is the most popular and the value keeps growing. BCH is to far from btc based on its value.

According to technical data BCC much better than bitcoin original. But even so, most people prefer to use and invest in Bitcoin original. I also


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: bboyjohn on November 30, 2017, 05:12:32 PM
Ofcourse i choose bitcoin. BCH won't be popular as bitcoin. Everybody knows bitcoin is king but
BCH just Prince :P


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: ahmadbass on November 30, 2017, 07:48:32 PM
Of course BTC, because BTC always in the top rating


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: my_cryptos on November 30, 2017, 08:18:59 PM
Of course Bitcoin Original. For me this is the most important coin. No alternative coin can become better and more popular than the BTC


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: 4p0l4k4y on December 01, 2017, 12:42:58 AM
I believe there is really no argument regarding that matter. Bitcoin will always remain on top and Bitcoin Cash will just be an altcoin. They are both profitable when it comes to investment. So its up to you which one will rake you profits in a shorter span of time.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: bastian466 on December 01, 2017, 02:16:17 AM
still choose and loyal to BTC because he remains the most dominant at the peak of the highest price and became the number one BCH only fractional chicks from BTC


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: vebby on December 01, 2017, 07:15:16 AM
bitcoin is a great choice if you want to choose long term investment when compared to bitcoin cash. currently only the price of bitcoin is very high when compared with bitcoin cash.  :D :D


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Ucupers on December 01, 2017, 08:16:36 AM
bitcoin. believe that bitcoin will have a good future both in price and for investment when compared with bitcoin cash.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Rengga Jati on December 01, 2017, 09:54:05 AM
if for a small capital investment I choose bitcoin cash because it matches the contents of my wallet. for bitcoin itself is actually good but need high capital.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: suvo05 on December 01, 2017, 12:22:20 PM
I always choose BTC instead of BCH. I am not quite sure about the BCH, so I stay away from the it. Even I think there are some better alts than the BCH.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: real eyes realize on December 01, 2017, 03:14:10 PM
Quite confusing!😂 Witch one is really the best investment!?😂

Actually, there is nothing to confused. Bitcoin cash can not be a competitor of bitcoin as an investment way or a trading way.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: goodbuybitcoin on December 01, 2017, 03:41:57 PM
Quite confusing!😂 Witch one is really the best investment!?😂

Actually, there is nothing to confused. Bitcoin cash can not be a competitor of bitcoin as an investment way or a trading way.

Yes, this coin is very weak compared to Bitcoin original. So you do not need to think that someday it will take its place. Most likely in a few years this coin will disappear and everyone will forget about it


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Brock Lesnar on December 02, 2017, 03:19:35 AM
the majority of people will definitely answer bitcoin, of course including me. when bitcoin compared with bitcoin cash from all sides alone it would seem that bitcoin is superior in every respect compared to bitcoin cash, therefore there is no other reason to choose bitcoin than bitcoin cash.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Lilianaser on December 02, 2017, 04:11:14 AM
for investment then I adjust to the capital of my wallet, so I prefer bitcoin cash because it is not as high as bitcoin so it fits with my finances but has a big profit too.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: sandy14350 on December 02, 2017, 04:25:59 AM
Bitcoin is the king of crypto world. Everyone loves and trusts bitcoin. And BCC is a shit coin for speculators. It seems to me that soon everyone will forget about it soon , just need some time for all these things to happen


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: wim255 on December 02, 2017, 05:47:06 AM

it still remains the best BTC. because BTC is its parent,  BCH her child, BCH still belong to ALTCOIN, BTC have long been born. until now the price tends to rise


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: newfulluser on December 02, 2017, 11:01:12 AM
Bcash is a shitcoin, it will be out of the top 5 on coinmarketcap in less than a year.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: 0verseer on December 02, 2017, 11:33:21 AM
We are all know how is BCH so it not really good for long term hold.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Greenkarki on December 02, 2017, 01:29:40 PM
Bitcoin is the king of crypto world no other coin will replace the bitcoin. Bitcoin cash price is increase recently its due to some investors want to dump bitcoin price. Bitcoin price will fly to moon in future when compare to bitcoin cash.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Soya1918 on December 02, 2017, 01:36:08 PM
BTC Alwaysˇ


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: bangkecol on December 02, 2017, 01:40:33 PM
Quite confusing!😂 Witch one is really the best investment!?😂


very much the difference between BTC and BCH, if I was told to choose for long-term investment, BTC certainly be a good place to invest in the long term. because BCH is a child of BTC which until now I have not found anything positive for fore from this BCH.

maybe when made a difference with BTG is more suitable for debate,


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Aleya on December 02, 2017, 02:22:44 PM
Quite confusing!😂 Witch one is really the best investment!?😂

I think bitcoin is the best investment. Now in market the position of bitcoin is good. At present some people are engaged with bitcoin but now most of the people are engaged with it. Many people earn enough money with the help of bitcoin. I love bitcoin so much.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: jagdeepjd on December 02, 2017, 02:40:37 PM
Quite confusing!😂 Witch one is really the best investment!?😂

without any doubt, bitcoin core was and is the best investment. It is the first cryptocurrency the store of value coin. Bcash(BCH)  is just a coin came out of a split chain and as Millionaire roger ver is behind it and all the hype was created it got the valuation of over 1000$.
BCH is just another altcoin so treat it as an altcoin and as an investment perspective, you can invest in both as you would invest in just another altcoin.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: matricaria on December 02, 2017, 03:54:45 PM
These coins can not be compared. Bitcoin is the king. And no alternative coin can be compared with it. I trust Bitcoin original, but I trade BCC


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Koioss on December 02, 2017, 04:32:11 PM
I choose Bitcoin because I think it is a value that is constantly rising and rising in the future. I trust it.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: poscrypto on December 02, 2017, 05:17:22 PM
Today the commission for transactions in the Bitcoin Cash is less. Because of this, I choose BCH.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: kramat on December 02, 2017, 05:37:37 PM
Today the commission for transactions in the Bitcoin Cash is less. Because of this, I choose BCH.
indeed bch now not too good price but for the long term really like the system offered with bch. would be very profitable if investing there. I prefer bch for now because the risk is very low when investing in bch


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: criptoman83 on December 02, 2017, 10:20:30 PM
I believe in bitcoin and im sure  bitcoin cash will not take his place. Bitcoin is the father of all crypto coins!


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: oppy16 on December 03, 2017, 06:49:50 AM
Quite confusing!😂 Witch one is really the best investment!?😂
For long time im invest in btc..  But i choose bch for short time.. 
Price and volume tradable can give me profit, 


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: mehedi24 on December 03, 2017, 08:20:32 AM
Bitcoin always good position in market price and people demand.so in my experience you invest bitcoin .it better than BCH.in 2018 bitcoin  crossed 15000$ .


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Ompyon on December 03, 2017, 08:38:48 AM
Bitcoin always good position in market price and people demand.so in my experience you invest bitcoin .it better than BCH.in 2018 bitcoin  crossed 15000$ .
exactly, if you want to invest, you can make bitcoin as an investment choice,
 because until whenever bitcoin will always be better than bitcoincash.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: bit19801 on December 03, 2017, 08:40:24 AM
bch is a promising bitcoin fork i woud go bch


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: NooBSa1Bot on December 03, 2017, 09:08:42 AM
Easy question, nothing to think about. Of course BTC, it has been overperforming all crypto market for the last year.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: GrannyC on December 03, 2017, 11:13:35 AM
I would rather have both in my portfolio, it is necessary to balance risk in this uncertain evironment.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: boranes on December 03, 2017, 11:38:34 AM
Quite confusing!😂 Witch one is really the best investment!?😂
Nothing is confusing.
Whenever you have to choose between bitcoin and any other altcoin - always choose bitcoin.
That is my rule and so far it is working  :)


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: hawkman on December 05, 2017, 07:12:43 PM
if you are someone with big capital and want to get profit fast then just choose bitcoin because bitcoin is very high price if only compared with bitcoin cash


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: lkjhg on December 05, 2017, 07:17:32 PM
I recommend you to buy BCH, BCH has advantages that bitcoin does not have, BCH is much faster in transactions, bitcoin just wins because they are the first, but over time people will use BCH and leave bitcoin


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: PancherBitCoin on December 05, 2017, 08:23:28 PM
I recommend you to buy BCH, BCH has advantages that bitcoin does not have, BCH is much faster in transactions, bitcoin just wins because they are the first, but over time people will use BCH and leave bitcoin
I think that Bitcoin cash still has a lot to go through, so that at least a bit equal to just Bitcoin. I think that people are closer to the real currency than the Crypto currency. And for the user, crypto-currency, and Bitcoin and Bitcoin cache of a kind can be good investments at the same time.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: kiky03 on December 06, 2017, 12:56:45 AM
Bitcoin is much better than BCH,bitcoin goin the moon very fast and i think btc price will never down.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: whaawh on December 06, 2017, 07:03:24 AM
the cash price of Bitcoin is beginning to rise very actively today and many predict that Bitcoin cash will be a very strong competitor for Bitcoin. Maybe this is so, but for today I think that the best prospect for Bitcoin, as his son quickly went up. At the slightest opportunity to buy Bitcoin, you will need to make this investment.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: FooliNgNooBs on December 06, 2017, 07:04:46 AM
BCH is a mirror coin from bitcoin, that came from a fork.
I don't think it will be as strong as bitcoin is at this moment.
So you better invest in bitcoin which as been a very good investment for everyone at this moment.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: aneeqvalam on December 06, 2017, 09:05:13 AM
Quite confusing!😂 Witch one is really the best investment!?😂
obviously btc because btc is the king of crypto


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: nick_nick on December 06, 2017, 11:25:59 AM
Quite confusing!😂 Witch one is really the best investment!?😂
Holding BCH is like having any other altcoins, its only good for daily or weekly transactions. BTC is better for long term investment and I prefer BTC


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: AzakeB on December 06, 2017, 11:43:52 AM
Quite confusing!😂 Witch one is really the best investment!?😂
Holding BCH is like having any other altcoins, its only good for daily or weekly transactions. BTC is better for long term investment and I prefer BTC

That's why BTC is always mentioned as "store of value". BCH is more a working, usable cryptocurrency.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: begau on December 06, 2017, 12:43:48 PM
Quite confusing!😂 Witch one is really the best investment!?😂
Holding BCH is like having any other altcoins, its only good for daily or weekly transactions. BTC is better for long term investment and I prefer BTC

That's why BTC is always mentioned as "store of value". BCH is more a working, usable cryptocurrency.
BTC is a "store of value" credible and it will always stay that way. The other coin only affects for a certain time, not comparable with bitcoin.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: GalaWan on December 06, 2017, 02:53:21 PM
Tomorrow, when the BTC is rising, the money flow can pass through the Altcoins. It seems to me hard to say anything definite in this market. But it always seems to be a step ahead of Btc.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: CryptoBuds on December 06, 2017, 04:31:15 PM
BCC is a pretty interesting coin, but many people say that its price depends fully on speculators and advertising. Therefore, I'm afraid to invest in this coin for a long time. I choose the BTC


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: allamanda on December 06, 2017, 05:32:03 PM
If you want to get a very big advantage with large capital then select bitcoin because given the bitcoin has a high rise and high prices when compared with bitcoin cash


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: alberdina on December 06, 2017, 06:23:01 PM
If to invest is actually the second coin that really interesting. but at a profit then the bitcoin is superior, but stability then the bitcoin cash a more stable


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: HELLOFF on December 06, 2017, 10:24:05 PM
as the market is already burning, that any price depends on the demand of users. Of course there is a lot of information that Bitcoin Cash will take revenge on Bitcoin, but I do not believe in it. Of course these coins are very good for earning on the difference in price, but nothing more with Bitcoin Cash.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: KLACC on December 06, 2017, 10:55:29 PM
Now it is dangerous to invest in both the BTC and BCC. The market is very difficult situation. Soon correction should occur, after which part of the money can be invested in the BTC and a part (small) in BCC


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: real eyes realize on December 07, 2017, 12:06:19 AM
Quite confusing!😂 Witch one is really the best investment!?😂

Actually, there is nothing to confused. Bitcoin cash can not be a competitor of bitcoin as an investment way or a trading way.

Yes, this coin is very weak compared to Bitcoin original. So you do not need to think that someday it will take its place. Most likely in a few years this coin will disappear and everyone will forget about it

I agree with you. There are many bad comments about bitcoin cash and I think it has not a good future.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: lifengpu on December 07, 2017, 06:18:03 AM
Once it was invested in bitcoin and gradually increased its quantity in my own country the other day brought out part of the Betz and it brought me a lot considering that I was buying it not at a very high price so that I raise all hands for bitcoin


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: davidroux on December 07, 2017, 07:15:58 AM
You can choose both of them. Let divide your fund, 70% for Bitcoin and 30% for Bitcoin cash. Both or them are good coins with a huge development. So, you can diversify your portfolio.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: winteriscoming91 on December 07, 2017, 09:11:17 AM
we need many alt coins to form a BTC


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Rajamuda on December 07, 2017, 09:55:12 AM
I think it's a bit late to invest in BTC.. and at BCH I still doubt whether it would be experience pumping back or even it continuesly to decline on price movements.. seems to me amid a sense of confusion and haven't been able to determine for the next investment due of lack on balances.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: NathanJB on December 07, 2017, 09:58:57 AM
Quite confusing!😂 Witch one is really the best investment!?😂

Of course, it is Bitcoin! But if you are really doubting the future of Bitcoin, then why don't you also buy some Bitcoin Cash for long term holding. After all, Bitcoin Cash, the same with almost all major altcoins, will really grow in price over time. There is no problem with buying an altcoin such as Bitcoin Cash because it has a very solid team and strong supporters as well. But do not compare it with Bitcoin because it is just an altcoin.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: marseille on December 07, 2017, 10:04:21 AM
BCH is temporary and BTC is permanent as there is no guarantee that BCH will survive in future or will take over bitcoin and in long run only BTC will be ultimate winner and will achieve higher and higher price.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: mittooss on December 07, 2017, 11:29:45 AM
Bitcoin, the one and only BTC can never be like Bitcoin so don't think otherwise.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: asriloni on December 07, 2017, 11:35:45 AM
Now it is dangerous to invest in both the BTC and BCC. The market is very difficult situation. Soon correction should occur, after which part of the money can be invested in the BTC and a part (small) in BCC
All of the money flow to the bitcoin. another flash crash will be happening to the bitcoin in the future, Just ready for the time of the bitcoin crash. The market will be following the bitcoin as soon as possible. But that depends on the how bitcoin goes. Another major coin gets plunged a lot.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: pungopete468 on December 07, 2017, 11:47:10 AM
At this stage neither in btc nor in bch as anything can happen to price in coming days and now there is high possibility that price of btc will crash so investing now is a huge risk so instead I will sit quiet and hold my existing coins.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: ruffles2016 on December 07, 2017, 11:52:15 AM
I always had doubts about both of them as bitcoin has tether problems and high fees now.
While bitcoin cash  is supported by some specific greedy miners. But I somewhat prefer bitcoin over bch.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: alyssa85 on December 07, 2017, 12:14:22 PM
BCH is temporary and BTC is permanent as there is no guarantee that BCH will survive in future or will take over bitcoin and in long run only BTC will be ultimate winner and will achieve higher and higher price.

It's the opposite. Yesterday Bitpay (a bitcoin payment processor) lost a big client, Steam, because of bitcoin transaction fees.

Bitpay's mistake was not to enable alts, so when it became too expensive to use bitcoin to buy stuff on Steam, people simply stopped and they lost the contract.

They're now enabling bitcoincash moving forward, so that they don't lose any more customers.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: changcloy on December 08, 2017, 11:22:15 AM
ofcourse i will choose bitcoin im not familiar with bch i am still exploring more here in this forum honestly i had so much coins that im not familiar. when i joined signature campaign they only pay me bitcoin,eth and anacoin so that three coins i am familiar with though I'm working on more here so i will have so much information about the other coins.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Minotus on December 08, 2017, 02:38:20 PM
I would definitely choose bitcoin. Actually i would choose bitcoin over any coin if we are talking generally. Of course there are some alt coins that you can profit faster if you invest in the right time but alt coins like bitcoin cash are temporarily pumped coins and in long term they are no match for bitcoi.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: mharz on December 08, 2017, 03:50:14 PM
Actually I just want to choose both, because if we can see now the bitcoin and bitcoin cash price in the market both of these were in increasing trends.

Bitcoin was increased their price in digital world thru the help of many people who support bitcoin. Moreover due to good and healthy condition of this coin more capitalist are encourage to invest more in bitcoin.

While bitcoin cash is also good condition but only miners who supports this coin so I think it's not enough to surpass bitcoin.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: GrannyC on December 08, 2017, 06:10:21 PM
Actually I just want to choose both, because if we can see now the bitcoin and bitcoin cash price in the market both of these were in increasing trends.

Bitcoin was increased their price in digital world thru the help of many people who support bitcoin. Moreover due to good and healthy condition of this coin more capitalist are encourage to invest more in bitcoin.

While bitcoin cash is also good condition but only miners who supports this coin so I think it's not enough to surpass bitcoin.

Perhaps bitcoin Cash is more the future than bitcoin. At the end of the day cryptos are worth because they can be used. Just to have them in store makes no sense. However Lightning network will make BTC useful again


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: proexcept on December 08, 2017, 08:01:52 PM
BCC tries to solve all the problems with the network and transaction fees, but I don't think it can surpass the bitcoin by capitalization. There is no doubt that it will be succeed, but still the crypto community will mostly use BTC.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: stepwilli on December 09, 2017, 11:04:26 AM
Quite confusing!😂 Witch one is really the best investment!?😂

i think BTC is the best investment from the other altcoin
because BTC more people in world know it
i also think btc is the best investment. with the great potential of bitcoin will make the people who invest there provide a lot of benefits

of course bitcoin is still better than bch. although bch never reached a high price, but it is very unstable. I prefer to hold bitcoin, because the potential of bitcoin, much larger.
BCH will always be unstable since it is being manipulated. The only thing keeping bitcoin from going into extinction right now is just those manipulations since the main dudes behind it have all the resources to pull it off. To me, there is nothing interesting about the coin and for those who are trapped in it right now hoping to get a lot from it, they had better just move back to BTC to at least find solace at the end.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: gunka on December 09, 2017, 11:08:58 AM
Only BTC. Thats an easy one. The real question is hold BTC or go after altcoin: ZEC,MONERO,ALTCON ....


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: duyduc256 on December 09, 2017, 11:20:38 AM
It is best to invest in BTC as this is the best option at this time. But if you want to pay quickly and do not have much time, choose BCH because each transaction of BCH will be confirmed very quickly in line with social needs


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: MartiniBlanco on December 09, 2017, 11:22:53 AM
I will always stay with Bitcoin and not with Bitcoin Cash because i think that Bitcoin will win the race and Bitcoin Cash will not follow. It will spike when BTC is going to dip!


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: jayc89 on December 10, 2017, 10:41:03 PM
It is best to invest in BTC as this is the best option at this time. But if you want to pay quickly and do not have much time, choose BCH because each transaction of BCH will be confirmed very quickly in line with social needs
Bitcoin is a nice method for people to learn how to keep their money and not spend it. Bitcoin Cash is well...a scam coin that is meant to get sold.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Bonsaiav on December 10, 2017, 11:44:36 PM
Quite confusing!😂 Witch one is really the best investment!?😂

A choice between two options BTC or BCH. I think, both are the best coins, and very good to invest there.
The investment proved most remunerative, especially for the short term.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Arthoerra on December 11, 2017, 12:30:16 AM
For long term, investing in bitcoin in my opinion is more promising. Because, bitcoin very popular as well many types of business services that use bitcoin as payment option and that's one of advantages with bitcoin.


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: nasibakar on December 11, 2017, 12:46:38 AM
BTC,
BTC
and BTC.

But I ll not sell my BCH


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Krismanto on December 11, 2017, 01:07:27 AM
for investment then I would choose a bitcoin. the price is clearly high and of course very suitable when used for long term investing  :)


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: AlienWithBTC on December 11, 2017, 01:15:41 AM
Obviously btc is the real bitcoin. What kind of question is that  ;)


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: 86- on December 11, 2017, 02:21:20 AM
i have both, but i think better to buy a ton of BTG for your long investment he just a baby, maybe he will be born over than BCH (i hope so)
let see 3-5 months latter, HODL and buy more


Title: Re: BTC or BCH???
Post by: Bosmuda on December 11, 2017, 02:25:19 AM
because of my small investment capital then I choose the bitcoin cash only though the price is small but the benefits are pretty hefty though not as much as the bitcoin