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It's been impressed how Bitcoin Cash pump in the past of few days.
Many people then make a statement that BCH will replace Bitcoins in the future.
But nowadays, Bitcoin Cash began to be abandoned and prices dropped back. What really happened?
Is this a joke or is it just for a moment's profit? How is current Cryptocurrency technology for games only.

It was pumped by Roger Ver and friends. Now all we can assume is that people are dumping. No one really trusts BCH so this attempt was dead before it started.

Mining BTC is now once again more than twice as profitable as mining BCH. The miners are switching back and BCH will dump to nothing again.

propaganda and shit from the crooked and fake
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/7cgzbv/so_i_did_5minutes_of_digging_and_oh_my_god/

Lots of manipulation with things like : "buy as many BCC so you're in both!", McAfee tweeting about it, etc.

This can soon be entered into the cryptocurrency history as one of the most popular and abrupt migration of Bitcoin to BitcoinCash and then maybe back. Well, we can say that it can just be a big joke bit then again many people am sure did make some money here. In other words, this is just doing a normal business. Every participant is just doing his/her thing so as to make some profits...and now that the boat is tilting back to its original side there can movement to soon dump BCH and we can see Bitcoin to rise again...maybe slowly as it is just trying to absorb what happened in the last few days.

As some are saying, this is the game that old boys are doing and since they got the resources to support such, small holders like us are just watching on the sideline maybe wondering what happened. Next week, hopefully, we might be able to rationalize things up for better discussion. Personally, I did welcome the birth of BitcoinCash but I do not entertain the idea that it should be the new Bitcoin.

How on earth will people think Bitcoin cash would overtake Bitcoin. Bitcoin cash was mooning simply because of the fork scheduled for 13th of November

You already got the answer.
It is for a moment of profit for those who really made this pump but not by local users.
You see now what they are made of. They just did a trend into making more investor be pulled thru BCH and then left them alone without profit or ROI.
How ridiculous it could be. You can call it a scam or you already call it but you are just too kind to make look not.

Agreed this has to be one of the top cryptocurrency history battle seen till now, which was done in the most perfect timing possible as well.

It's impressive as far as "pumps" go but replacing Bitcoin? That's laughable.


Manipulating the market on Bitfinex and Bithumb is not sustainable. Roger Ver also moved tens of thousands of BTC to Bitfinex to help pump the price. I don't know how much the guy has stashed away, but he won't be able to dump his bitcoins forever. Dip buyers will scoop them all up.

Having said that, I don't think this is over. I think they will let the market dump like they did in August/September, and then they will repeat the same move: 1) spam the BTC blockchain, 2) put out a bunch of fake news articles and press releases about Bcash being the real Bitcoin, 3) pump the price on thin order books -- probably on a weekend like they did here.

This would never fly in regulated markets....

Bitcoin is going to come out of this harder, stronger, meaner than ever.

We can be sure more challenges are ahead, central government fiat currencies are going to fight hard against bitcoin, and eventually lose.

$1000,000.00 bitcoins is quite possible in a few years. ;D

I don't know this is what skenario. Clearly yasterday is very impresive for Bitcoin Cash when he pump, but for the moment he dump again, just for one day. And we don't know the future bitcoin cash will pump again. We just wait and see, maybe it will be shocked me. And by the way after incident yesterday i was interested to buy Bitcoin cash.

There is a lot of interest in Bitcoin Cash, many people are selling BTCs and getting Bitcoin Cash, Bitcoin Cash 6000 dollars a day Bitcoin 1000 dollars a bit surprised.

So actually, this game can be predicted, a segwit cancellation is a good moment to make this manipulation shows, this is a well-planned.
Roger Ver and some of his colleagues seem have plenty of BTC to do this, last week the btc price was down around $ 1,000.
Are you sure they will repeat the same move in this month or later?

Really impressive how bitcoin cash is pump on the price that no one can ever speculate that it may happpen we see in the past few days that the price is pump so hard and bitcoin is dump but we see the recover of bitcoin and bitcoin cash seem like dump cause for what was happen in bitcoin cash is a bubble and i think a lot are being trapped.

Bitcoin cash will never replace bitcoin like their supporter claims and the recent huge pump & dump scheme was fueled by hype and temporary shift of miners from bitcoin to bitcoin cash mining.

There is nothing extraordinary in bitcoin cash and it is not actually better than bitcoin, bitcoin will remain as major chain.

all the technology is actually just competition in the search for profit for the advancement of life, bitcoin technology also. now only used to seek profit for a moment, if they make new coins, it just make new way to take profit in life just little, because this is business competition . If only they united to develop one name without creating a new name for the coin that was created. maybe bitcoin is now a king of crypto currency. so I think it just games for profit

Pump yesterday, BCH has been planned in order to create panic in the market. Soon BTC will again fly to the moon, and BCH will fall.

That's what happens when flocks of sheep dominates the community. If you share Nakamoto's vision, there should be no reason for you to believe in Roger Ver... Miners would stick to bitcoins as long as the community choses to stick to it as well. But what happened last night was a nightmare, many people were manipulated because of fear... fear of losing money. THAT'S WHY IN THE FIRST PLACE, YOU SHOULD ONLY INVEST WHAT YOU CAN AFFORD TO LOSE. I can now conclude that there are tons of idiots holding bitcoins @ $4000. The real supporters of bitcoins are the ones holding from $2500 below.

It has always been the nature of bitcoin cash to appreciate at a very high rate and also depreciate at a very high rate. So any time you hear that bitcoin cash is appreciating just go there for a short term trade.

This battle between BTC and BCH is just bad for the whole crypto community. A compromise should be made between all the parties instead of a forceful takeover of the BTC crown. This centralisation of bitcoin cash could spell the doom of cryptos...

It is what is it. It was really for pump & dump. Do you really think that bitcoin will be replaced? I don't think so, If you are shaken and impressive by the pump, don't be and I hope you didn't swayed by them because once they dump it, you will just lose your money. Unlike with Bitcoin, we have a backup from Japan and money have already trusted in it. I pity those who will be trapped by Bitcoin Cash.

Why does it have to be a battle? In fiat, you have Strerling, US Dollar, Euro, Renminbi, Ruble and others. They all co-exist, can't we have the same in crypto-currencies?

There are some people trying to harm BTC system by changing their miners to BCH and take high profit from its bump in past few days. But maybe everything is going on track now, even there are no fork of BCH happened. So everyone don't have to be very scare about it, just hold your bitcoin and get profit in some days.

I agree with those who think that the battle between BTC and BCH is just bad for the community as a whole. There is no such thing as the true coin or stuff like that. What is worrisome is the fact that the pumps and dumps are fueled by some few agents aiming to achieve something which is good for themselves and partners only. Every single member of the community should be committed to avoid situations like the one we are living now, with SEGWIT2X and other forks representing maneuvers and not ways of bringing more value to cryptocurrencies. I hope we can be able to unite and spread the idea of bitcoin as it is, not only as a brand, but to make the effort of keeping the revolution alive, and not destroying it inside out. We need always to be careful, there are big players in this game, and they are dangerous, including some who work for the already established system regarding not only currencies, but also politics, and social welfare.

It's not really a battle for me. Bitcoin did not even got close to BTC. It was just a trick for a profit. People should avoid panicking. Such FUD is also like scamming others earning free coins and then boom, they leave. The greed of people crypto users are definitely measured by this event.
I hope everyone learned a valuable lesson. Have a basis and proofs before jumping to conclusions. Or you will lose everything

Exactly, they created a giant FUD like for couple of days and some may have believed it in by switching to BCH. But BTC has stood its ground, though I really think the most of the investors did moved to BCH but for the hell of making huge profits. Then boom, then all leave going back to BTC. Who may not known their faces, but they truly manipulates the price in their favor but now leaving BCH. Yeah, those newbies should learn from this and not be tricked again.

All i see is bitcoin is still the king! Then why should i waste my time and energy focusing to some dogie altcoin called bitcoin cash?
I always put myself away from negative speculations and FUDs from people with no prior bitcoin economic background because many people are now into bitcoin trying to sell their FUDs... Thank god, that's not for me because i ain't buying no shit from anyone. :P

Rabbit Rodger  using moment hardfork BCC 13 nov to pump BCh and to fooled people change they btc to bch and change they mind BCh is the future. but you know BCH still ALTCOIN.

Unfortunately, their manipulation was successful, some people who hit that news had convert their Btc to Bch for some time and now they loss, Bch went going down. It looks like this game will end.

Hmm.. only if we have similar borders for cryptos.

I don't have a problem with altcoins like Ethereum, Ripple and Litecoin. Bcash is trash, centralized clone coin created by self-serving chinese miners with the only intention being to destabilize and divide the mother network.

go to coin market cap and check out "markets".  You'll find it's being pumped by the korean exchange.  It's a totally fake pump.

https://ih0.redbubble.net/image.417030723.7497/sticker,375x360-bg,ffffff.u1.png

Stay strong, do not waver, BCH is being pumped heavily and it's staggering the BTC markets. Keep hodling and DO NOT SELL right now.

I guess what happen is a market test for bitcoin cash. Bitcoin crash while bitcoin cash is pumping many believe this may probably replace bitcoin soon and start buying it but majority stick to bitcoin and trust it that it will remain at the top and with that the value of bitcoin cash drop again. They want to divert bitcoin demand and by doing so they able to bring back a number of bitcoin in the circulation.

Roger ver and his group pumped BCH as much as they can.Now its time for dumping and big whales have started dumping BCH.That's the reason for the fall of BCH price.People who switched to BCH have realized that it would not continue to go high and they have started to sell it and buy BTC.They had a masterplan of pumping BCH and at the same time,miners switching their has power to mine BCH which made BTC transactions stuck and at the same time,fall in BTC price.

It was manipulated by traders that is how the trading industry works, they will target a coin like bitcoin to dump then pump with other coin like bch for a while to get some profit then dump it after getting profit and go back again to bitcoin

Why are prices on Bithumb significantly higher than other prices ? How does that work?

This is a strange situation, why many people predict that BitcoinCash will be able to replace Bitcoin. I think this is only a joke a moment, impossible to bitcoincash replace bitcoin.

Yes, it's just a game of whales. another round of prices in order to profit from the big guns after the S2X is cancelled

No, it's because segwit(BTC) didn't deliver on the very late and necessary techology improvement. With transaction fees of 10$ it's a shitty coin and will soon be replaced by better technology.
Nothing has improved for segwit1x. It's not even the original BTC. Original BTC did not have the segwit format of the blockchain.

I think it was just over hyped by those who profited already and thought that BCH has the potential to reach what bitcoin has achieved. But now many have been damaged due to the quick change in price i don't think they will trust other crypto again.

Could be, with the purpose of Segwit2x planned to upgrade to 2MB blocks could protested by some miners who see their profit will decrease if this condition is approved. Some bitcoins holder believe if this is approved then the transaction fee will be cheaper and every transaction will be more quickly taken by miners on the network.

Its just a moment's profit that bitcoin cash suddenly fell drops the value. From the beggining I havent invested in Bitcoin Cash for the reasons Im doubting its future. Well we cannot say if this is temporary or not, but I can say its just over hype.

Whales are just making money profit to pump and dump the BCH nothing more special like in bitcoin. You can see after a big pump it dumped the next day.

This is just a disappointment over the delay b2x, they seemed to indicate that there are other coins worth considering.
in the end they throw it away. and BTC back on the right track.

 The crypto currency  recorded an impressive price increase in the last weeks but also an incredible leve of volatility being also interested by swap’s strategies of investors. Now it seems as Bitcoin Cash is back: target price at 2100$ https://roboadvisorcoin.com/bitcoin-cash-is-back-target-price-at-2100/ (https://roboadvisorcoin.com/bitcoin-cash-is-back-target-price-at-2100/)

Bitcoin cash is volatile coin but still the only one which can gain you serious profit. It's value should go up in the next months because instead of being 1/8 of bitcoin price. With smaller fees and quicker transactions it founds a purpose on the market.

Well, according to our forecasts its upside probability is 58.19%. https://roboadvisorcoin.com/crypto-predictions/ (https://roboadvisorcoin.com/crypto-predictions/)

This is very normal, they have a pumper and manipulator team behind. They will nevet stop pumpin this BCH it seems. They will continue unless there is a market crash seriously.

So, be careful while trading BCH on exchanges. You're under risk of extremely volatile BCH market.

BCH is sitting on support and getting ready for the next wave. This movement feels much more organic. Get in for good profits.

Thanks for your advise.
If the wave will indeed come back means everything has been predicted while BCH does have solid support to pump and manipulate the market.
Do you have any indication of when this will happen again?

BeeCash on BitPay? :o weeee

It has better features than BTC and with its current position, it can easily rise in price, but it's still a gamble at this point. It's obvious that the other Bitcoin forks will die out sooner or later but BCH will most probably survive and can even reach for BTCs spot at the top. It's still too early to predict and with the current market nothing is certain, but it might be worth investing in it at this point (at least it should be more profitable than investing in BTC). If you are looking for a long term investment this and ETH should be the smarter choice. Be careful with your investments and best of luck !

We really can't be sure for really sure that everything that happens on crypto coins will be what we predict, it's very naturally influenced by users, interests, support, and trust, it will play an important role or no progress at all. For Bch alone.. I think it has power, but still not showing the power that is potentially shifting Btc/Eth. There are still many out there that are more inclined to Btc/Eth, but doesn't rule out that this coin will get a pump, here a time will answer it all.

It is not bitcoin cash moment, and all what we are seeing is a continous dump from all the coins on the entire market, and bitcoin cash is not an exception. So just forget to invest in this shitcoin.

We cannot predict the future of a coin in crypto because cryptocurrency is volatile and with the current situation of the prices of coin,anything can happen when the market recovers. The fall is general for all coin and bitcoin cash is not an exemption, if the market recovers, it might probably rise as it is also a potential coin and it has good qualities.