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Aside from a blatant attempt to manipulate the crypto market, fueled by personal egotism, selfishness, and syndication, why hate BCH? Consolidating considerable mining power, then using said power against the community because you didn’t get your way, and convincing some whales to jump on board? ::)

Are improvements necessary to sustain Bitcoin as its popularity and user base grows? Yes, but develop a real plan, one that doesn’t involve monthly forks and bs derivatives. Any professional would focus on resolution, addressing concerns and developing plans to the mutual benefit of all stakeholders. Instead, we see a handful of greasy hustlers seeking to profit from division.

Probably too much thinking and/or cooperation involved to be practical. Oh well, looking forward to Bitcoin bronze, aluminum, wood, recycled newspaper, etc...

I guess you enjoy paying high transaction fees and love waiting countless hours for them to confirm.

I know, reading big sentences is hard, its ok.

Are improvements necessary to sustain Bitcoin as its popularity and user base grows? Yes, but develop a real plan, one that doesn’t involve monthly forks and bs derivatives.

BCH is highly frowned upon because of their hostility, unprofessionalism, and overall untrustworthiness. It seems the people behind it, Roger Ver and Jihan Wu, wanted to control and profit from bitcoin too much that they made their own coin, bitcoin cash. It is hard to unsee how greedy they are. Just look at how bitmain operates.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/7cgzbv/so_i_did_5minutes_of_digging_and_oh_my_god/

Why would the people that don't love those either need bitcoin cash, there's plenty of other and better options out there.

I hate bch because the price is controlled by some big holders.

In addition to your say, they declared a total war against bitcoin, which is totally unacceptale. They keep with manipulation in their twitter accounts. These are the valid reasons to hate BCH.

BCH is hated because it follows a pump and dump scheme initiated by the whales Roger Ver and Jihan Wu to overtake the crypto world in order to make huge profits. But to make some rich asses even more richer that is not why Bitcoin was made for

BCH is a mistake, they are unprofessional, and what they do is unacceptable, too greedy in my opinion, I hate BCH
 ::)

Uh, because ALL bitcoin clones are shit, because the people behind BCH are assholes,

Shit, there are dozen's of reasons, U have to ask, as a newbie BOT account, the shill-bots for BCH are infinite, but note this is all they have,


BCH will never be BITCOIN, might as well repackage and re-invent yourselves as BITCOIN-PLATINUM

Besides CASH is dead, calling yourself BITCOIN-CASH is like saying BITCOIN-FIAT

ONLY a fucking nihilistic GOV psychopathic moron fool would call his coin 'fiat'

I think BCH pump and dump so quickly. That's why  ;D

Dont hate BCH, ride on it.

BCH investors cashed out already thats why it is good to look for perfect entry for this coin

Bch is on bargain sale now.

If he calls other names, it's obvious that developers are cheating on the popularity of BTC, and more people think that BCH and BTC are the same

Agreed, guess my sarcasm wasn’t apparent in my post. PS, not a bot, been around since 2013...

Bitcoin cash is a new generation coin from Bitcoin which is the price
very volatile but more mainstream current wave up and down.Bitcoin cash has a good future chance like his older brother
bitcoin but bitcoin cash has many advantages compared to bitcoin
starting from transaction speed, block size, and security and protection level.
and what you say is true too

exactly! BCH is not BTC..majority of people who have BTC are gonna hold it and not use it to pay for things..so for those people that still don't understand..people are treating it like gold

crypo world is so freaking shady..haha

Its not a hate story but because of their attitude, how they tried to bring bitcoin down in last few days, that was never a fair play, if it was a fair play, they might never ever came closer to what they achieved that day.

LOL. I think we will come to that very soon.  ;D We will soon have Bitcoin Tin, Bitcoin Platinum, Bitcoin Copper, Bitcoin Ore, and all kinds of metals and gems. But, kidding aside, this is the direct effect of greed and self-centered and conceited attitude. The team actually does not have to resort to such forks only if they would decide as one. Let the majority rule for the common good of crypto. Right now, there seems to be rogue groups staging some kind of coup. Why don't they just upgrade and develop Bitcoin as one?

I am not hate bch, but bch is causing the BTC price to fall down, and causing BTC rally being stop, bch doesn't got a solid base,a lot of miners is supporting bch because they got more profitable from bch mining, so I don't see any special things coming out from bch

Don't worry, BCH can never stop the BTC rally, all it did was create a obstacles in BTC's way. BTC is already in its recovery mode, IMO it should be back to $7k in no time. Honestly compared to the BTC's popularity, BCH is nothing, it can't other throw btc or kill it without achieving more popularity than btc, which i don't think will happen.

Bitcoin Cash price can be easy manipulated, that's why people don't like and even hate BCH. How on earth will you invest and trust in any project that can be controlled by few major holders? Any time value can be raised or lowered without your control? People hate coins that are pump and dump since there were always profitable for only a few that controlled pump and quickly dump them for profit, leaving other investors with coins that lost a lot of value (bag holders).

Another reason BCH is a clone of Bitcoin but in a different form, it's not just improved specs like XBOX ONE vs XBOX ONE X, it's a psychological experiment what will happen if people get tricked into something given for free, is it possible to increase value of BCH, and recently they try to make massive pump.

I am far from investing in Bitcoin Cash no matter how profitable can be for short period of time.

I don't really hate BCH, I hate those people who try's to manipulate it because of those kind of people many people here lose a lot of money just because the people who manipulate it wanted to earn more.

We had correctly spotted the rally in Bitcoin Cash in the initial stages. The moves the price experienced over the last couple of days, usually, end up hurting a lot of buyers who arrive late to the party, on fears of having missed out on the rally. Therefore, many times, we prefer to miss a rally if we don’t have a good risk to reward ratio, rather than jump in and repent later.

Nobody hates money, it is just the way people behind the project are going about their thing, you don't need to pull another person down because you want to succeed or want your own voice to be heard

We'll see the development of both. Will Bitcoin Cash be increasingly hated for the game of the rich. I do not know why people hate Bitcoin Cash. What is clear, Bitcoin descent this one is worth to be selected to be held besides Bitcoin.

Only in the short term. This has always been the way of bitcoin whales. They throw around their weight, trying to fight the market. Then, after bleeding away their money, they are no longer bitcoin whales.

I hope that Roger Ver just wasted 25k bitcoins buying the Bcash top, but I suspect this will all take longer to play out. They'll pump it again. But in the end, I think these guys will end up burning a lot of money trying to prop the Bcash market up. Their coin has no fundamental value. I think opportunistic traders and bamboozled newbies are just chasing a pump. This will all end in tears.

why like it?
its one of the biggest manipulations
it did not let normal people get rich, only the one's who arleady hold BTC
its getting pumped and dumped by these whales
etc/..

I think it is a hate towards Roger Ver. He is really a weird man and people can not trust him because of his past and because of his attitude.

I do not want to write about his past but only know that he was a supporter of Mtgox which collapsed and disappeared with their users' bitcoins.

He is living in Japan -Mtgox was Japanese too- and as far as I know he can not enter United States, where his original nation.

BCH is manipulating so you can be wedged With the sudden dump of its price. So let us take care of it here. I know that big money can earn it for a short time. but it also involves a big risk that the value falls in the fastest time. So my advice when making money is that you immediately convert it to bitcoins.

IMHO it has more to do with BITMAIN, who has been requiring people to BUY BCH in order to BUY antminers for months? Had this not been going on BCH would have just died,

Take BITMAIN who owns 100's of 1,000's of BTC, it just sloshes back&forth like the "Mark Faber" model of the worlds money, I don't see much net-loss BITMAIN/ALIBABA want the "BITCOIN BRAND", they SELL BTC drop the price park their money in BCH, and then SELL, and go back into BTC, the little people get hurt, and the PRESS reports that BTC is unstable,

The game goes on until the assholes at NYA/BCH/SEG get their way

Best thing for the community to do is nothing, just sit back and watch the show,

AS YOU ALL KNOW eventually it all has to come back int BTC, these 'whales' chinese-billionaires aren't stupid,

But YES, the morons who follow the trend, the day-traders they get wiped out, cuz they're not in control of anything, they're just pawn

I don't why ppl just don't do what SATOSHI does keep it in cold storage, and enjoy the show, but never let you BTC near one of these criminal exchanges

Nothing is wrong here people the fee's are FINE, BTC is  a rich mans currency, paying $5 to transfer $100k without GOV interference is a small price to pay.

****

Lastly, I don't really understand the concern here, the average American doesn't have $500 USD in the bank, ergo he don't own a BTC, and most of the players own 0.05 BTC, the number or 'RICH' is small, and again most of these RICH made their money elsewhere and brought it in as a safe place to store, where it can't be stolen by gov, ex-wives, or the cops.

BTC will continue to RISE cuz the RICH have no place else to store their wealth, US DOLLAR will fail in coming years, expect to see BTC to raise dramatically.

CHINA knows this, this is why they're trying to steal the BITCON-BRAND today.

Your arguments on bcash's is quite gamer on capitalist standpoint, which is tolerably acceptable. The only thing that's not acceptable, in my opinion, is when they claim that bcash is the real bitcoin and they use this as marketing spiel and this what makes them looks like bunch of greedy mongers piggy backing on bitcoin's name making further confusion on unsuspected investors (mostly unable to understand intricate technicalities investors).

the problem with BCH for me is that there are clearly a lot of whales from Bitcoin trying to manipulate the market to make a profit.

Love it or hate it, seems to be here to stay...

 Bch it's a tool for manipulation. with his help undermine confidence in bitcoin. or  conversely reinforce.
who bought it for 0.3btc?? believers...

Why hate that coin while BCH is ideal coin to trade rather than any shitcoins there and many intelligent traders earn from BCH hype and maybe those people who hate it are those losers who doesn't know how to deal with certain pumps and dumps scheme. But if those poor loser people can summarize the happenings and can able to read the candles aswell with the stats then they can easily guess that the coin as at the peak of its prime.

i poersonally though that bitcoin gold was bad now this i dont what to think any more because these forks claim to enhance the blockchaine.

I don't think Bitcoin cash is unfairly piggy backing on bitcoin's name. It is a split between two opposing ideologies. Let the free market decide who wins. I hate Bitcoin Gold for unfairly using and tarnishing the Bitcoin name.

BCH is a mistake as some may state but look!....some people are profiting from it - bargain sale happening on BCH. Take advantage while you can.

That's true people behind BCH is just want to make money out of nothing, they want to pump and then take profit later on. Money is there but the intention is really not good. This is why i don't support bch which caused me some paper loss because of the dump of btc.

Yes backing on the bitcoin's name. If there is no information out that bitcoin cash is splitted from bitcoin then no one will think or consider that as a emerging coin dude. Even that will consider like new ICO coins and undervalued shit coin.
I can't understand that what competition with the bitcoin and shit coin BCH. You gonna find this below 200 USD very soon.

Bitcoin cash currently surpassed ethereum in value and is now in a race to replace bitcoin. From what i have heard is bitcoin cash has very high transaction fees, takes a long time for confirmation of transactions. Also the creators of Bitcoin cash are not that trustable and professional in the crypto currency field so maybe this are some reasons people hate bitcoin cash.

For me I just don't agree with the people who are the driving force behind Bcash.

Its the other way around they are promoting bitcoin cash with big blocks meaning is has superior confirmation times than bitcoin with lower fees. And you can see the timing when they are being pump, bitcoin mempool is clogged with spam attacks that why what they promoted make sense. However, it looks like the community has taken a stand and they choose to go with bitcoin because the price has gotten back while bitcoin is going down hard right now.

Its not a shit coin actually it has a very good team working on it you must give them that atleast, and it even hitted 2800 dollars so you know that it has now potential.

Many people have now seen that bitcoincash can be worth something in the future.

What I find wrong is the manipulation of whales in BCH. But i guess pumping and dumping plays a big role to how all coins react.

manipulation has existed since the very beginning!

 i heard the forked btc(bth). has it own fork,..  when will it happen.

when is date of hardfork(hardfork(btc)).

Especially for the roger ver as the biggest price manipulator in the bitcoin cash, A lot of people are know about the fact that the roger ver was holding a lot of the bitcoin cash. That means the roger ver just try to take the advantage from its FUD>

A hardfork is just a upgrade of the network that demand a majority consensus (80% to 90%). If the forked chain as no support from miner or any user, this chain die. So bitcoin cash forked yesterday but the "legacy bch" chain died because every miner wanted to update difficulty adjustement.

They can manipulate the price because they have a lot of money and big holding of coins that's the advantage of being a wealthy person in the world.

this is not worth the current bitcoin value.
although bitcoincash prices have become high fixed lahi we will feel uncomfortable when the transaction fee is high and time to make a long confirmation.
therefore bitcoincash will not be the primary choice,
because the other altcoin will remain a better choice

For real investors, they are actually thankful to BCH because with BCH's uproar of its market value last week, BTC's value went down giving good opportunities of some investors to invest in bitcoin at a lower price. If we look at the graph today, those investors who invest on the day when bitcoin's market value went down, they probably bagged a total amount of money after BTC's market value pumped up.

And they have also a lot of power. Media power and hash power. They don't just manipulate the price , but also the hash power to cripple bitcoin legacy and create a panic sell.

Your are describing BTC as well :D
 https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/700-million-stuck-115000-unconfirmed-bitcoin-transactions/

Waiting or and paying high transaction fees but that does not mean that I am supporter of BCH

This two altcoins now manipulating the stocks with the biggest benefactor is thus people or miner the behind this segwit2x...

I do agree both BTC and BCH are being manipulated. So are all the Alts.

Bcash is an allstar band of scammers. Here are the most dedicated bcash promoters;

https://i.imgur.com/H8wp9Tk.jpg
Craig Wright:
Everybody knows this clown already but lets do a quick review. He claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto, founder of bitcoin without any proof. When we ask proof, he says: "Piss Off". Yep very professional responses. His personality definitely checks out with the satoshi's earlier posts in this forum.


https://i.imgur.com/bxkv6kN.jpg
Jihan Wu:
CEO of bitmain, biggest biggest mining business in the world. Exploited SHA256 algo with ASICBOOST and have it patented to secure his monopoly in the industry. To keep his patented software in operation, forked bitcoin without a second thought. After everything he earned from bitcoin, he decided to go hostile against it.


https://i.imgur.com/h3I9fLB.jpg
Roger Ver:
The most malicious of the bunch. A known altcoin pumper, a snake oil seller. Attacking bitcoin for years. If you want to know what "god syndrome" is, check this dude out. Just because he is an early investor, he thinks he can be the CEO of bitcoin. Despite all his financial power, not being able to control bitcoin's road map drives him mad. That's why he is creating problems on the btc blockchain which doesn't exist in the first place. Thinks he knows better than hundreds of engineers/coders who has been working on Bitcoin for 8-9 years. He owns bitcoin.com, and still complains about censorship.

so the fork already took place?

It seems to me that the author of the post spends a lot of time trying to dig into the wilds of algorithms and political debates among developers. It would have been better to start making money really. And what difference, on what coin it will be made, to earn more. To deduce later will have to FIAT

Because people hedged their bets on BTC and don't like the uncertainty BTH brings to the table.

Several reasons, people losing money on it, or over it (btc value down etc).
And it's clear bch folk have launched an "attack" on btc in the past days.

Probably I do not hate Bitcoin Cash, but this altcoin is controlled and those, who control it launch the artificial growth of this alt. Those, who support BCH are in a way struggle with Bitcoin, which I do not like.

Quite rightly written, as for me! Just people are interested to speculate, and look for reasons, not ways to solve them! And at the same time, everyone is relatively right!

Because it was created by a group of people who are pursuing unpleasant motives and not the fact that they will be able to positively influence the market of cryptocurrency.

Answer about hatred BCH in a first post here. Building BCH price is unpredictable speculations. No economic regulations involved. It is purposeful policy for destabilization of Bitcoin, and maybe some other currencies. The result is chaos.

I dont think "hate" is the word here

It should he "unfavourable" i suppose? I mean they do have people who hate so

But guess most of us just prefer the main one there

Because it is pump and dump coin.We can't analyze its chart.All time pumpers and dumpers get their profits.Not easy to get profit for normal analyze trader.

I have no idea why people hates Bitcoin Cash and I thought why would a large scale miners were shifting from Bitcoin's to Bitcoin Cash and whale traders were trying to pump because they believe in Bitcoin Cash.
Bitcoin is the most valued cryptocurrency today but doesn't mean it's the only cryptocurrency that should be the highest valued coin but every other cryptocurrencies has the right also to pump because that's what cryptocurrency was made for.

The pump and dump of bitcoin cash are all the same with Bitcoin back in time. Bitcoin cannot be the most valued cryptocurrency if those big whales of traders were not pumping Bitcoin to attract more investors and for the world to know that cryptocurrency is the future of economy.

Crypto-Currency is all about business and business has no loyalty into any particular company or partners. That's what Crypto-Currency is, traders pump or dump, and all they want is money, nothing more nothing less. Bitcoin back in time ahas been dumped and pumped too many times and Bitcoin Cash and other Altcoin are not different.

High transaction fees now just because, is an attack on the BITCOIN network of miners, with the aim to destabilize our community. Soon all will return into place. BTC up and down the BCH.

The only reason I see is they don't want to lose their Bitcoin investments but that's a selfish thing because that's part of the game. Now, even Bitcoin is being pumped again there's no reason to hate Bitcoin Cash as it remains $1,200 per coin. Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash has nothing to do with each other because they have their own network and strategies.

Why not to hate BCH?

We have Bitcoin already - and its really decentralized and everyone OK and happy with it.Everyone wants stability
Suddenly someone comes and starts a freaking stupid CHAOS around with his fork and screams about Real and Not Real Bitcoin and all sorta chaotic crap.
This overall gives a delay for big money to enter market and also makes everyone less confident who already in the market.

BCH brings CHAOS and PumpDumps!
Dump it to 0 already!

BCH's pumps and dumps are so fast. We know big whales has big BCH's.
We cant do anything when it dumps or pumps

Well most of us probably knows how the developers of BCH works. They manipulate the sudden increase in value of the coin to prove that they are better than bitcoin, that they are worth investing into. They want to claim the seat of bitcoin and be number one conniving with the whales to overthrow BTC. What is there not to hate it?

The technology is better ofcourse since this is an update but yeah because of the manipulators it looses its appeal to common investors

I don't like BCH because it is basically a copy of BTC. Everyone just tries to make copies and copies of the original, like in real life as well, not realizing that whatever they do their product will always be a copy, no matter how much it looks similar to the original. There is an interesting twist to that, in that at some points we'll be seeing so many forked version of bitcoin that everyone will realize that investing in ten different forked version of the original doesn't make any sense. They will see that BTC has been there originally and will most likely be the one who will continue to be there (on the throne). So even though I don't like BCH, I still don't hate it. It's a good alternative in case something bad happens to BTC, but we already have so many other alternatives which are already much better, like Litecoin for example.

There are much better technologies, with better scalability and greater capabilities. But as you correctly noticed the people who are behind the project - this is the most important.

Exactly.

Bitcoin is becoming established as a store of value, a digital gold. The days of using it to buy pizza are long gone, and transaction speed isn't everything. Bitcoin has an identity and a purpose.

And Bitcoin cash is... what? It may be faster than bitcoin, and it may have lower fees... but it isn't the fastest and cheapest thing out there, so what is its point? If you want a fast coin, you don't use bitcoin cash because it's faster than bitcoin, you use Dash or Ripple or one of many other alternatives. You can't compare yourself to one thing, you compare yourself to the entire market.

In fact, these days I am beginning to see BCH as more of a centralized coin than a decentralized currency. The huge levels of manipulation by the owners are just insane and that shows a high level of unprofessionalism.

Who would not hate that really ?
I really see that fork as something that was never necessary in the first place as and more of an attack than a mean for a better way to do things. The level of greed these guys are operating on is just becoming annoying.

BCH goes agressive politics and so speculative economy

BCH is being manipulated by the chinese whales,i dont trust chinese people they are greedy asf.Their attempt to overthrow the BTC is sick,the evil wont prevail.

Yesterday here on forum I saw something https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2422562.msg24801967#msg24801967 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2422562.msg24801967#msg24801967), can this be truth that China will alow bitcoin cash mining and ban bitcoin mining? If that is true then Wu and Ver are doing this in collision with Chinese government, or I see some bad connection?
There is no need for hate, what they did is not nice and that is how wold works I think. They tried and failed, and I think we will see more of it. The level of greed for power and control, about that you are right!

I don't hate BCH,but i don't really support bch because the creators of bitcoin cash are not that professional in the crypto currency field

BCH triggers an aggressive reaction because it cuts to the heart of the matter in crypto.
Fixing the glaring issues that Bitcoin suffers from.

So when BCH is presented to a user he then has no choice but to immediately make a decision..
Will BCH fix and replace Bitcoin.. or not ?

It's because of WHAT it is and WHY it was made.
It challenges the users to pick a side etc.

Regardless we still have a nasty problem ongoing with Bitcoin.
It's been out for 8 years and it's failed.. Bitcoin does not scale well at all.
It's come to a screeching grinding halt and it's been that way for years now.
The Altcoin scene was suppose to fix this problem but..
All the Investards were busy ignoring the reason we are here.. a digital currency and an improved one over BTC.
Instead you all pushed out 10 thousand clones and ICO scams often not even a currency at all but a gimmick scheme coin.
Meanwhile BTC sinks deeper and deeper..

And during this time other services are easier, cheaper etc.
Take Interac eTransfer for example.. it's faster and cheaper.
AND SUPPORTED GLOBALLY BY THOUSANDS OF BANKING SYSTEMS.

Bitcoin failed and you Altcoin douche bags were suppose to fix the problem years ago.
But you knew you couldn't so you hid from the problem and dreamed up gimmick alternative use schemes for profit.
I'M LOOKING AT YOU V. BUTTERS ETHEREUM SCAMMER

What you did was took the mechanism used as proof of concept which ******FAILED******
Then applied that to ICO scam coin profit schemes.. instead of finding a better solution than the FAILED block-chain.

The block chain is not a coin.
It's intent is to serve a purpose and that failed miserably.
You were suppose to come up with a better solution.. and no not ledgers either  ::)

meh.. who gives a fuck this shit failed long ago.

Bitcoin Cash was the first Bitcoin fork that was introduced ladt August this year and in fact Crypto-Currency enthusiasts were so excited what would Bitcoin Cash will bring as being a new rival for Bitcoin but people started to hate Bitcoin Cash as what happened recently that large scale crypto miners were shifting from Bitcoin's into Bitcoin Cash' and made Bitcoin's price dropped instantly from $7k down to $5k. People and investors outraged after the event and that's how they hate Bitcoin Cash due to large sell-off and some investors were shifting the same way from Bitcoin's into Bitcoin Cash believing that Bitcoin Cash will surpass Bitcoin's price.

Me neither hate Bitcoin Cash on what it would become after the pump because for me that's what Crypto-Currency is made of, to rival any top cryptocurrencies and should increase their values after sometime. People somehow hate Bitcoin Cash as being pumped so high in a matter of a couple of days and the same time Bitcoin's value eventually dropped so low.

If Bitcoin Cash' pumps without affecting Bitcoin's price then nobody hates Bitcoin Cash and it more attracts more investors after the event but things gone wrong when Bitcoin's price dropped due to Bitcoin Cash' pumping so an Altcoin that will affect Bitcoin's value would be the worst day of that Altcoin, when Ethereum will pump and the same time Bitcoin's price will drop then people would do the same over Ethereum.

BCash would not have existed if it wasn't for Bitcoin. It was a hostile attack on bitcoin's network and doesn't sole any of the problems it claims to be addressing. Creating different chains for everythkng perceived as a problem know bitcoin's network would have other currencies created every second but doesn't exactly help bircoin. BCH's marketing makes null points, it's only because or the "giveaway" that it lives on.

A lot of things and cognition to imagine without you so sensible and clever, a lot of virtual currency will have different advantages. Think of BTC like second to BCH, ETH and so on, is important for more people to accept. As for the final winner of this revolution, it is difficult to say.

Some bitcoin lovers hate cash cause bitcoin is first well developed and established coin and everyone should care about it as markets are ruled by bitcoin. So bitcoin cash lovers wanna replace bitcoin with their own coin, that makes people dislike cash. Bitcoin cash is like bully to bitcoin.

I don't hate BCH, instead I think competition is a good thing, which will drive all team speed up developing.

Chinese is not important to crypto market.Last time when they tried to ban crypto, bitcoin ignore and price pass resistance 3000$. I think this time still the same, BCH is not controlled by any Chinese whales, its price increase because people from others country love it.  :)

When Bitcoin Cash was forked out from Bitcoin people were excited about what comes next and then Bitcoin's value is even pumping but when Bitcoin Cash was pumped and at the same time Bitcoin's value was dropped then people were upset and cannot accept Bitcoin Cash will replace Bitcoin in terms of price value.

BCH is jut another altcoin for me, an altcoin that was made just to get people's attention off of bitcoin a bit, it has no good concepet it does not bring anything new to the cryptocurrency, it is just an idea that they want to force it and to make it successful of the back of the bitcoin name, i mean it explains why they increased  the mining difficulty of bitcoin and lowerd the mining on bitcoin cash just to force miners to switch to it last week to secure its network because it was not successfull at launch and they didn't want it to fail miserably.

I dont hate bitcoin cash (BCH) but I feel it misleads first time investors into buying these coins with most speculations talking about it to be the next bitcoin when thats far from the truth, it will forever remain an altcoin and never will be bitcoin(BTC). The price of BCH easily attracts potential investors to invest in this altcoin and the sad part is people like cheap stuff.

i don't hate bch , because bch almost same with btc i think

I don't have hatred over bitcoin cash. BCH is an fork from the main bitcoin chain. Though it is termed to be an altcoin, it has gained popularity because of bitcoin. Now too, the growth happening with bitcoin is good whereas in between some price manipulation took place with the bitcoin cash.

It's quite understandable that people don't like BCH. BCH supporters went on direct attack of Bitcoin, with the only aim to basically rob all Bitcoin holders and transfer the wealth into their pockets. On top of it, BCH doesn't bring any new technology or anything new in general.
But maybe it will be good for Bitcoin in the end as it might push the core developers to implement Lighting Network as fast as possible.

I really hate BCH because no charts can predict its price. Buy and sell this coin is too risk for any day trader, BCH is just a drama from China.  >:(

Who said it was designed to compete with Bitcoin ?
Best i can tell it was created not to supplement or to even compete with BTC but to REPLACE it.
Hence the anger.. people think it can not.

I think 90% of you all are clueless noobs.
When all of your concerns center around profits and you know next to no crypto history it means you know sweet fuck all about this stuff.

And i am definitely sick & fucking tired of the hollow platitudes idiots in crypto spout off like cliche's.
If i enter a Tuna Salad Sandwich then have that compete against a fat rank stinky steaming coiler i shit on the ground like a chuklefuck douche-bag investard pajeet does that mean i am "competing" ?

And does competition mean anything useful in crypto ?
Lets put this into perspective shall we ?
How many other coins have tried to compete with Bitcoin by fixing it's problems..
and STILL BEING A GOD DAMN FUCKING CURRENCY ?
..not a god damn piece of shit scammy ass ICO gimmick platform shit coin scheme fer teh ROI'z.

Know how many times i have seen shitbirds chant Ethereum is competing with Bitcoin ?
How can it profiteers ? it's not even a currency.  ::)
It's an app's platform capitalizing on the APP's trend with an ICO that was launched in 2014 rigged to make the scrawny Russian faggot rich beyond belief. (and his scammy team of manipulators)

Meh.. you are all blind and fucking stupid and you will reap what you sow.
And i will be laughing my ass off hard  ;D

By the way i don't care.
Crypto is dead so it's too little too late as far as i am concerned.
Crypto supporters are long gone and no more are coming.
The kind of sleazy little assholes that would support any ICO are not the kind of people who care about crypto in the slightest.
They care about profits ..and that is it.
Nothing elese at all what so ever.

This is the problem with bitcoiners - they think they own the miners. They don't, the miners are businesses who will simply mine the most profitable coin. We've seen this in the scrypt mining scene for years - and instead of moaning, altcoins innovated to cope with it.

We're seeing bitcoin not coping well because there hasn't been any thought given to how bitcoin would manage if the miners started to move back and forth. Which is a pretty big thing not to have planned for...

I have seen a lot of bad comments so far about bitcoin cash. I have never owned it, because of that, the people are generally complaining about the bitcoin cash's holders, transaction fees, and non-professionality.

I don't hate Bitcoin Cash because i think forking is a legitimate reason if you think the original coin is deriving from its main goal/vision. And i consider BCH to be a reasonable fork, because they have developers backing it up, added replay protection and have their own community... But forks like BTC Gold and the planned BTC Silver are just shady and scam cash grabs.

I personally know nothing bad about bch.we are the pne responsible for our mistakes.for those who believe bch keep on.and those who hated it chill.everything will come to favor you guys.just wait for your turn.

I believe it's because they say that it deviates from Satoshi's vision if I'm not mistaken. We even saw its value grow up to 150%+ but then suddenly returned to its 1000 USD value which seems like a pump and dump.

the fluctuation is unpredictable and its a fake bitcoin from a fork. and im afraid its going to be dump somehow by people. its rise only temporarly and going down so long. thats the reason why i hate BCH .

every coin is getting pumped and dumped except BTC because its such a high market cap that whales barely have that power.

I like the idea of BCH, its just unpredictable coin but probly another BTC in 2018 *fingers crossed*

What are the communities where the good people have gone to? Because things may change but the people unfortunately always have the same roles

P.S. I don't like the idea of BCH

Just do not know how long will this BCH last and till how much price rise we will be able to see for BCH. But yes in short term just as a money making instrument you can invest in such coins and take our the profit on rise. You do not need to stay long if you do not believe in such coins.

I don't hate Bitcoin Cash because that's cryptocurrency is made for. In fact Bitcoin was manipulated back in time that's why it gained more attention because Bitcoin in 2013 is suddenly pumped and started in 2015 the price increase is unstoppable.
Bitcoin Cash will eventually pumped for a reason but people were so offended after the event for some unverified reasons.

What is this even supposed to mean?

People started to dump their Bitcoin Cash coins because people are ranging mad due to Bitcoin Cash hard pump while Bitcoin price dropped, I wonder why people do reacted. Cryptocurrency supposedly pumped that way an in fact Bitcoin was pump hard in 2015, manipulated by trade whales and Bitcoin Cash would be almost the same.

This is absolutely wrong. People dumped and dump Bitcoin Cash because it's just another altcoin.

Bitcoin have nothing to do with Bitcoin Cash and so does Bitcoin Cash into Bitcoin. It was just Bitcoin price dropped while Bitcoin Cash pumped. That's why Altcoins were lying flat and low until today because they're gonna be tagged as a joke if Bitcoin price is affected. Bitcoin investors doesn't want to be on the fair square game.

I like him because it will be new bitcoin but bch and btc will be in future coins which will be only for trading because transaction fees and transactions speed is so slow.I better concetrate to keep other new potential growing coins.

Bitcoin cash and Altcoins deserves to be pumped as well but after the event people were calling them as a joke and another Altcoin. This is hard forks were made off, pump and dump but people get mad when an Altcoin is pumped almost Bitcoin's price halfway.

It is not new bitcoin it is a splitter coin from the bitcoin and due to the demand given on BCH by the miner side. After everyone started hateling BCH.
That is how it is works out badly. So now fees also seems also ridiculous because of BCH.
Everyone will expect the large miners turns to bitcoin again shows better space for bitcoin mining.

BCH is just starting .
Hard to  predict the future price of it .
just hating it because that coin made
people panicked . and just lose profit on Trading Bitcoin to

I won't agree and you're all out of denial. Cryptocurrency isn't limited only for Bitcoin and Altcoin is one of the best reason why Bitcoin's price is increased rapidly.
Today Bitcoin doesn't serve as a currency that is used to be described in the past but rather an asset like Golds and diamonds that does only sit on jewelry box but the price increases continually because people wanted to collect it rather than circulating it to the market.
Altcoins are designed to act as a real cryptocurrency due Bitcoin's limited supply.
Altcoins deserves market value increase and we have nothing to with it even we couldn't stop it. Bitcoin is now overrated but doesn't mean it will remain on top, an Altcoin someday will replace Bitcoin on it's seat for reasons.

I wouldn't blame you since you have your own reasons, which are true in my opinion. I just hate the fact that all these manipulations happened a week after I sold my bitcoin cash at $400, and bought it a higher value. However, I think improvements are required on the bitcoin network, probably for faster transactions, but not on a monthly basis.

BCH gave a portion of bitcoin's market value to win, which led to a drop in the price of bitcoin, and then the price of altcoin fell, and my altcoin value dropped, so I hated BCH.

100%. We all lose some money on alts at time of hardfork. BTC lose some stability, and there was some problems with transactions because of flood of BCH team

i like bitcoin cash , maybe first time when bitcoin cash born , i bought it and invest short term but with long term i choose bitcoin - btc

bitcoin cash just a altcoin like other altcoins , not special , not replace bitcoin btc .

I don't like the HCH because I have BTC. as we have seen BCH did make Bitcoin plummet this month-that's the thing I don't want
BCH do not consider them as a altcoin. they are too greedy to replace Bitcoin

because they are using stupid marketing movements to hype their coin, while they are useless just as many other coins that cost 1$
all this flippening thing, and other  are just bullshit and everyone in their team and community knows that

Well it is not also easy to just hype BCH. You have to have a lot of investors and miners. So for me, actually admire BCH for having this fast price increase and i think 1k is its stagnant price. their will be a time also where it will reach higher prices but by that time maybe, bitcoin is now in a mileage.

That's the whole point, Bitcoin holders were mad because Bitcoin's price is affected after Bitcoin Cash pumping so that's not a good case and now no Altcoin should be able to pump because people would've stop any Altcoin to rise because the possibility is Bitcoin's price will be dropped at the same time.
Why you guys are affected? Bitcoin Cash, Ethereum and other top Altcoins deserve to be increase all the way to compete Bitcoin because nobody can afford Bitcoin today due to it's value and the best option is to invest Altcoins and hoping one will pump whether Bitcoin's value is affected or not. Stupid isn't it!?

I hate it not because it is forked from the btc, But the fact that I did not buy some bch when it was cheap.

I would support Bitcoin Cash no matter what they call it and I believe every crypto cureency is created to be use as currency in the future and it will gonna stay undervalued because Bitcoin Cash, Ethereum and other Top Crypto-currencies are actually deserves to be pumped as well and Bitcoin couldn't stop that.

That's tragic, you did it again while those time Bitcoin is also cheap. It is wrong for hating Bitcoin Cash for no valid reasons because that's what crypto-currency is made for pump or dump but if it's a hard pump and the price is increased abruptly then that's the good news indeed because that's a good sign that an Altcoin is heading to the future.

Well, you have no idea what you're talking about. Bitcoin Cash was hated because it was pumped hard while at the same time Bitcoin value was eventually dropped. Most of Bitcoin holders and investors are mad because they don't accept that Bitcoin will be replaced by its own fork. Bitcoin Cash although is the first Bitcoin hard fork also deserves to be pumped and increase it's value because it has a good future too, whether it will replace Bitcoin or not it is still a good currency that which offers wide range of scalability and usefulness in the future.

BCH not get real fan base. Miner only support it because it new and more profit with all drama from whale who control it price.
So real crypto person will hate it.
it's just like other Altcoint

No, if you make use of the goodness in the BCH then it will add up the value to this coin and it will gradually increase in the market capitalism. This is because as people will see the easiness in the BCH transaction or may be the increase in value then we might find that more and more people getting into it in the first place. What the after effect ? Well, this will become the threat to bitcoin which is the only coin that is directly abiding to the blockchain network or runs on it. The crypto lovers who are all into bitcoin then may get attached towards the BCH, the miners will start getting use to it and it can collapse the big economy balance that Bitcoin has given us today. The whole  thing will have to start over again and to be honest other coins or specifically the BCH is not in the position to hold it for long time. Its our loss in the future

I don't think that we should have any hate feeling for the bitcoin cash Because here we are getting free of the cost and also there is no need to wonder for the another coins which are not better from the point view of the technology and by network also , so here we have the bitcoin cash as an new better altcoin for the trading with definite descion that what we can make in the future .
And also you should see that it is an only result of the fork that was a need for the bitcoin blockchain technology to make bitcoin more and more better .
And also we can see that with the investment of the bitcoin cash we made much profit also many times with pump or we can say attraction of investment in the bitcoin cash as a perfect coin .

I don't like BCH because its founders play dirty game against original bitcoin by making spam transactions with high fees in BTC network. There are and will be a lot of other manipulations tied with BCH.

Bitcoin becomes flawed since bitcoin cash create, it allows miners to flip-flop between both coins, so the miners who set pumps and dumps. I hope bitcoin cash is just disappearing because it only detains the bitcoin development.

Not against with bch but with the recent price manipulation, I'm starting of getting rid of my bch and buy different alts and invest more with bitcoin.

Personally I am not against bitcoin cash. I think it is alternative payment currency. I tried it and it works good even faster than bitcoin. But my friend really hates it cause he love bitcoin.

i'm not hate to bch but i can't accept for the discussion bch replace bitcoin as number one coins because i don't believe on that idea's the reason of mine bitcoin is on the stable strong currency in the crypto as first decentralized digital currency, in my opinion bch have a potential to grow in the market as second coins or 3rd coin because have a competition bch and ethereum in the second placer.

There are many things like market manipulation! Yes you heard it right! If you don't agree then tell me how can a coin with billion dollar volume go down 50% within 50 minutes! Lol I know it's funny but how is that even possible? Within hours billions of dollars got vanished. There must be a mega whale may be roger or jihan itself to dump such a massive amount.

Probably, there are so much things u need hate ;)

Bitcoin and Bitcoin cash can coexist, there's no reason to hate on either of them. They have different purposes and aim to accomplish different things in the market, so why not use both for what they're good? We need to stop fighting among the cryptocommunity and focus our efforts on delivering good products and bringing in new people to the scene.

The reasons you listed are reason enough to hate it, nuff said. lol

BHC will exist untill the next hardfork occurs. Than most of investors and miners will swith to a new coin. The rise of BCH is controled by few concerned whales and they can dump it to the groud when they need it. So BHC is not a competitor to BTC at all.

Like what an ICO ?  :D

Actually i not hate bitcoin cash. I dont know why some people said that bitcoin cash can replace BTC. It is new coin and someone mining it because of "Early bird will catch the worms" only, so now this price is bubble ( especially because of hard fork). So we need wait, future will say we should hate or love BCH.

I don't hate too. What I feel is that bitcoin cash is not innovating something for the community and it doesn't worth to make investments.

Jihan wu and roger ver is pumping it hard, we don't believe in it!

Well BCHers are basically saying it is better because the fees are relatively small compared to Bitcoin's which are getting out of hand if you still consider it a currency. If you don't consider Bitcoin a currency then there is really no reason to get mad at the "other side" because Bitcoin Cash's intended purpose is as a currency and not a store of value. Once Lightning Network is setup then Bitcoin will be back to instant, almost free transactions. Anyway, Bitcoin is still king at the end of the day.

Bitcoin goes 8k+, BCash have to pass the way now...

i think i am not hate bitcoin cash because from bitcoin cash, i can booked another profit so i think my bitcoin balance is increase. and the price now is at low price and back to the price before so i think i will buy again if the price is down again. i am happy to see bitcoin cash is increase few days ago so i can sell it and i can buy back. but it seems bitcoin cash is not going to increase for this few days but i am not sure about this and i only hope that the price is down a little.

Okay that is true BCH is way faster and really cheaper. But until when?
If they finally hoarded all the investors and all of the transactions, can they still make it this faster? Heck it will be just the same as bitcoin or ETH or any coin. The more transaction it takes the harder it will be so they would need to increase the fees and also the transaction will slow down.
Why not just stay with bitcoin instead. It already gained the trust of many and is still here.
I hate it because of the name they choose. It confuses people. I know that is part of their plan too.

I don't hate BitcoinCash. But I don't like the games played on Bitcoin. Bitcoin has a big role in introducing blockchain and digital money to the world, so the development of the Bitcoin system will be more beneficial for the crypto world. I think the forks are reducing confidence in the market.

Thats right man, bitcoin games too riski for many users

Why hate on free money

And added to that who says BCH is decentralized. Bitmain hoarding the maximum of it can play with the market anytime. I agree Bitcoin is also in hands of few. But those few still involves more people where BCH is just a toy in hand of Bitmain and Roger ver. Whenever they want some profit, they will pump it killing the smaller investors.

If BCH is superior just on the basis of transaction fees and time, then why not prefer DOGE. Best currency with least fee and you'll find ton other altcoins with better technology than both BTC and BCH. But the market base and adoption rate are what making the difference.

These BS forks are just miner's greed!

free money one time and many problems many times than ((

I just think it has bad fundamentals. Its mining is highly centralized: the vast majority of the hash rate (> 80%) comes from an unknown miner who we can assume is Bitmain. Most of the rest comes from ViaBTC, who is known to be a front for Bitmain. So, if you are comfortable with your "decentralized" currency being easy to attack and to censor, then it might not be a problem for you.

But one of Bitcoin's major value propositions is that it incentivizes rational and therefore decentralized mining, which allows it to remain censorship-resistant. I don't have that sort of confidence in Bcash.

bch-is centralized coin created to earn money founders

I think BCH is a mistake, but maybe they have reasons to behave like that?

I extremely agree with op. Even i hate bitcoincash . And honestly i pity those who are supporting it. Because there clearly is something fishy about bitcoin cash. It's like something is up and about to happen. Just look at how the prices have rieen too fast. Clwarly they are pumping the coin on purpose toaintain profit. And when rime strikes, they will dump together and poor are those who investing big ttime.

The hash rate is very suspicious and I also assumed that it is being worked out by Bitmain and Jihan. Also the recent attacks proves us all correct. The people behind just manipulates the price of bitcoin cash to the extreme and just suddenly bailing out in time and just the profits. That's why we really lost confidence and they also get the newcomers who are not crying out because they have lost their investment in bitcoin cash.

BCH is the one true bitcoin and Roger Ver is my Jesus

I don't like it at all coz for me it's kinda obvious that all that pump and stuff was to dump BTC's price and buy it for a cheaper price and then start the BTC rally again.

I think people not really hate BCH they only scared because of the negative feedback of many users in this coin, i agree that only few people supporting this coin because they do not want to risk their money in the new coin also because they see the huge dump of value after launching of this coin that is why much better to have bitcoin than to hold bch.

If Bitcoin upgrade in speed and functionality, so why do we need a clone of it? It's just another altcoin...

I guess the reason that many people hates BCH is because it is trying to steal the throne of original BTC saying that it is the real Bitcoin.
If BCH comes quiet like another alt coins, there would be no problem.

Personally, I respect those who invest in Bitcoin Cash, it is their choice.
Bitcoin Cash is just one of the altcoin on the market.
As a copy competitor, Bitcoin Cash functions as a good ''fud'' so that the value of Bitcoin will increase even more in the coming days.

You should see this people are hating BCH because they already know this is just a game created by those chinese market manipulator. Then there is no reason to adopt or love BCH. Right? Why are you discussing this, weird.

Why do you blame Bitcoin Cash for Bitcoin's price decline?  ;D
If anything, you got an opportunity for some cheap bitcoins. There are people with different thoughts - respect them.

monopoly in a business will cause an imbalance, I think that's what causes bch hated many people

i dont hate it to be honest - it's good to see competition between coins - ultimately i would like to see massive increases across the board in the next year or two.

This basically. I wouldnt have a problem with it if they had the creativity to have their own identity instead of trying to steal someone else's. Litecoin is faster than BTC too,  but it creates its own Identity, path and chugs along. BCH couldn't do that without losing their minds so fuck that shit coin. Why use it as an alternative with LTC is right there and is faster and cheaper than BCH anyway?

Not to mention as soon as BTC adds scaling solutions BCH's largest draw dies that much more. There's no niche for it; yet they are arrogant as hell. I laughed watching Ver and co pump it to $2400 then crash it losing millions for the idiots that believed they would dethrone BTC.


Now Bitcoin is 8200, and BCH reddit is full of nothing but hatred, jealousy, vitriol, anger, and finger pointing. They are f-g Miserable while the real Bitcoin reddit is joyfully celebrating all time highs every week. :D :D :D

It not hating actually, BCH causes btc to fall down. Its normal competition between btc and bch ofcourse Ill always into Bitcoin. Bch price may fall down anytime due to of hype thats why price rises.

That's true, especially those founders and advisor already taken a lot of the bitcoin cash for them.  This centralized coin which full with a lot of the manipulation from the developers. They are making a joke about this coin will replace the bitcoin.

This is also me beliefs. Its just another promising altcoin. Though I am cold with BCH before, but now yeah, let it grow :) Why hate anyway when there are many also supporters with that crypto.

Bitcoin Cash was and is trying to overtake Bitcoin. There will be more people wanting to roll with Bitcoin because its been around longer.

You have obviously said it all. I see all that is happening with these forks as a way for some of these guys to just benefit themselves instead of coming together to look for a better way forward.

Now, it is becoming even more annoying as most of them are now seeing that as even a better avenue of scamming which is pretty bad and it is high time people started discarding forks that does not have the sole purpose of a good upgrade.

2nd layer solutions are the way to go, wont 2MB-8MB blocks just get filled up as well? Lightning Network is on the way!

Bitcoin Cash It's just a tool that is very well used for speculation and nothing else. He will never beat Bitcoin

Why someone is hate BCH? Hm that is a very good question haha..... BTC is the mother and some see Cash as a son who wants to kill his mother and thats not nice... so many people don't like BCH  ;D

Before I have hatred with BCH because I thought that it will be just a nonsense and very useless coin. But look on where it is now, #3 on the coinmarketcap. And the good thing about my decision is that I still haven't sold my BCH. Things are changing very quick and my hate to BCH was gone because of the potential profit that I can see. But when it comes to the talk about taking over the legacy and main chain, I'm out with BCH.

A good tool for speculation, why not love him? ) The Chinese who want to grab a cue btc pump it will often )) so I also love BCC

Agree, but it's just like a pump you can use. So this is a coin that does not give anything new to the market in addition to speculation

if I think people hate bitcoincash because this coin give false hope. Many people predict that this coin can beat bitcoin, but until now there has been no significant development.

because they do a lot of manipulation in their account. I hate bch too because the price is controlled by big shareholders, so they benefit from a lot of bitcoin

Since most of the investors are here, even though their volumes have risen, it does not increase its value so BCH coin does not want so much so that it does not invest in it because they do not expect me to increase its price or decrease.

Agree with this, lots of people hoping that this coin would be obe of the best coin but after the hark fork for this coin all of this will broke because instead of increasing its valueit will start to dump and listed one of the shit coin. I thi k this is one way of the whales to get huge profit by forking bitcoin and they see the good result that is why they fork again for btg and i think fee people support this btg due to their experience in the first fork.

But there are still people are hoping that this coin would increase it value in the future, i only suggest that dont give full trust and invest huge capital to this coin because it will not gives good profit due to small volume of demand.

It's always easy to control the price of BCH with BCH, and it's not real bitcoin. He's trying to upset bitcoin, which I think is stupid, and I would not choose that if his price breaks through bitcoin buy,

Yes and not as this may totally hate this coin which is BCH but on how does it pump and affect bitcoin but not as much , we are now thinking that this is not good but as of now we may see slme improvement on it but i am not telling that i love this , i am not liked that BCH cause my part is on bitcoin.

I have no idea why people hates Bitcoin Cash and I thought why would a large scale miners were shifting from Bitcoin's to Bitcoin Cash and whale traders were trying to pump because they believe in Bitcoin Cash.
Bitcoin is the most valued cryptocurrency today but doesn't mean it's the only cryptocurrency that should be the highest valued coin but every other cryptocurrencies has the right also to pump because that's what cryptocurrency was made for.

Bitcoin cash included a characteristic with conform trouble descending. Basically, if short of what six blocks found in 12 hours, the trouble dives down Toward 20%.

But, a descending change in difficulty need a considerable measure of results to miner. An miner will have the ability to find block 20% faster,  What's more Subsequently Invest 20% less electricity power. This implies that mining a  block on bitcoin cash turns more attractive.

After a lot of reading, I can have a sense why so many hate on Bitcoin Cash.
Mainly, and telling simply, as I understand, because it draws Bitcoin value lower.
But still, as I understand, Bitcoin Cash main purpose was to make transactions faster and cheaper.
Well, tbh, I really like this idea, and Bitcoin at the moment can't satisfy cheap and fast payment idea as it used to be.
Cryptocurrencies are not only for holding, it should be used for easy spending also. Don't you think, Bitcoin Cash can be adopted by world, because, at least, at the moment, it is way more fun and easy to use it than Bitcoin.

What are your thoughts about it?

BCH has been very eye-catching recently. I think the value of BCH lies in its own code technology, a better market identity. Pay attention to the details of BCH, I think it is worth studying carefully! There are some big miners, but the prospect is still good. :)

Bitcoin cash is very useful I can't even dislike it. Let alone hating it. It worked so much faster than original bitcoin when generating transaction and fees are low. It is just another fish in the sea.

At last time BitcoinCash (BCH) is showing much better results than Bitcoin itself. We know that BCH has more effective blockchain technology and spreading very quickly becoming more and more popular.

Maybe because there are many people saying BCH will replace BTC but we all know that's not gonna happen. BCH is really useful but for me BTC is still the KING.

In my opinion any forks of btc is a bad thing as it is similar to banks printing money.

We should not have to deal with hard forks with free BCH to existing BTC holders. This is equivalent to central banks printing cash for countries.

But there was a lot of disagreement with the way ahead of BTC and the community split.

I think in the future, both BTC and BCH will exists as we are starting to see not just altcoins traded with BTC, there are altcoins being traded with BCH too.

And with coinbase dealing with BCH, I think both versions of bitcoin will be here to stay.

I hope there wont be further versions of Bitcoin from here onwards..

because... Bitcoin Cash is the original BTC with 8 times bigger blocks resulting in 8 times more transactions per second. The current so called bitcoin is a security compromise called SegWit that still hasn't helped with any of the problems concerning transactions.  :)

You would be stupid to buy into BCash. Really stupid.

The only claim to fame BCash has is being faster and cheaper to send versus bitcoin itself. BCash doesn't have the pedigree, the name recognition, the adoption nor the attention. When people think Crypto they think Bitcoin. PERIOD. Not BCASH..... That's why BCash was added to one of the largest exchanges in the world with GDAX and not even that could propel BCash into a position of power.

What's worse, is as soon as Bitcoin implements the lightning network alongside its ever growing Segwit adoption (which hit a new high yesterday) BCash dies instantly. Once Bitcoin ITSELF becomes faster and cheaper than BCash, suddenly BCASH has zero reason to exist. It just... fades into a shitcoin that people tell old stories about from yesteryear.

Investing in a coin that will be useless and have no purpose by the end of 2018 is the definition of being a bad investor. But hey.. a bunch of people believed in Bitconnect too, so maybe people are just stupid.

Bitcoin fans admire the cryptocurrency ecosystem
Bitcoin purists believe in the long term vision of Satoshi Nakamoto.
Its more of a cult ish behavior that has been harboured amongst us.
Bitcoin cash is a fork of the same bitcoin blockchain that improves certain aspects of what previously used to be just bitcoin blockchain.
Bitcoin cash miners are mainly chinese.
Satoshi Nakamoto envisioned a world where decentralization without borders wouldn’t cause bias or influence consensus, but given that majority of the miners are chinese, its edging closer towards becoming a centralized sham than a decentralized marvel.
Well, Bitcoin purists are mainly anti-centralization, bitcoin fans don’t really care, they’re excited nevertheless.
Its quite similar to this.
Bitcoin purists are bent on decentralization more than anything.
Of course, there can and probably are many more reasons to hate bitcoin cash, but this answer is based on my inference.
I hope this was helpful.

personally, I do not hate bch because I can make another profit from bch and as long as bch cold give me a good profit, then I don't hate it and I will still use it. maybe it is because people thinking that bitcoin cash is trying to replace bitcoin position so they hate the bitcoin cash but for me, if I can take a good profit from bitcoin cash, then it is no problem for me and I still use it for a long time.

Because there are lots of better coins from Bitcoinand BTC Cash. But they have their own name, own technology  and own ideas. None of them saying we are the real BTC. The only reason of BCH having more market share than DGB or XRB is  it has Bitcoin name on it and they have huge whales

This is why people are hating Bitcoin cash. We know Bitcoin cash has faster transaction than BTC. But Bitcoin cash still a fork from BTC nothing else more.

The core development group is opposed to BCH, which is about the divergence of development roadmap, and it is also a conflict of interest.

The core development team's lightning network enables the king to profit from the lightning network.

I think to most people hate bitcoin cash because of the dev. This men forked bitcoin just to destryo it and want to become super rich when hes the dev of the new cryptocurrencies on the lead. So he does some agressiv propaganda against become. He tries everything to damage bitcoin just to make bitcoincash more valuable. But he do not expect that the bitcoin community is to strong to destroy. So now im sure he thinks about new communities to damage the image of bitcoin.

Not only bch even I hate all other bitcoin fork coin still now these coin never given any solution to bitcoin mainnet . Still transaction fees as well as transaction time is same as before these forked coins .  This kind of greedy people asset.

A good reason to hate BCH is all the BS its pumpers spread about BTC.

That, and it uses media and the press to pretend its the "real bitcoin."

They should really have just come up with their own name instead of trying to ride on BTC's coat tails.

Greatest pump scheme ever.

Some people hate BCH but i like bitcoin cash and in the near future i will use this for the different purposes and i love to hold bitcoin and if  the price were stable i will convince my friends and family for the crypto investment and now the bitcoin community is rising and i have to used this for the future payments and those who already in the bitcoin holding situation they are lucky at all.

Personally I do not hate BCH with recent merchant  adoption and sending people text BCH through  text messages , I think BCH with be alternative  to BTC not necessarily to replace  it.  Both BCH and BTC can actually  exist independently  and focus on achieving satoshi vision.

Yes, this is an alternative to the lost Bitcoins for their existence. Bitcoin Cash also represents a great value for modern society.

Who accepts BCH? Please, name one legitimate company that isn't just a shill corp for Rog.

I do not have much interest in BCH, but I can say that some of the people in the circle or friends do not like it. The reason why they do not like it is that they initially use it for investment purposes. The downfall of the market caused very serious damage to the BCH investor. I think that another reason of not loving is the high transaction fee.

As for me, the most interesting crypto currency is Bitcoin and Etherium.Personally, I do not believe in forks of bitcoin

I think that it can be connected with Roger Ver, because as far as I remember he was behind this project, maybe I'm wrong, but it seems to me that this is so. So it's just fork bitcoin, which is a real crypto currency today, which is recognized by the whole planet, many people have already heard about it.

Because BCH is just a fork, this is the first point,
But most of BCH's coin is in the hands of a few, which is clearly not decentralized,

They have different purposes and aim to accomplish different things in the market, so why not use both for what they're good? We need to stop fighting among the cryptocommunity and focus our efforts on delivering good products and bringing in new people to the scene.

I don't think people really hate BCH they just hate the fact that the people who support it are calling it the real bitcoin and saying that it is the best coin in the market when it is obviously not. Bitcoin cash is just a fork and that is what it will always be, a fork. Not an original project and not something that was created uniquely. It was created off of the work of someone else and that will always be its bane.

I do not hate BCH even I prefer with BCH because it can help to increase bitcoin if the BCH price rises the possibility BTC will go up also because pumping bitcoin prices is very difficult even today I hope big bitcoin can be good and stable again in the future

not hate rather i say that i do not want to invest in bch because of its volatility. many times there is pump and dump in this coin... in my opinion it is very risky to invest in bch.
it is bitcoin fork and they want to replace it with btc which is impossible....

I personally don't hate bitcoin cash and with all of the growth that it has shown lately, it is no surprise why so many people and investors support the coin. The problem starts when bitcoin cash supporters start saying that bitcoin cash is better than bitcoin which we all know is not true so that is the only problem. I think that bitcoin cash is a good coin even though it is a fork.

I'm neither like nor hate bch but i just don't like how Roger ver advertise it. He seems like trying to replace bitcoin with bitcoin cash, using his influence and "bitcoin jesus" status.

I think we don't have to hate bch because as long as bch can give us the opportunity to make money, then we could still use bch as coin for trading. although in out there, many people don't like bch because they cannot make any profit from bch, we don't need to listen to them. we have one reason when we do trading which we want to make a profit so it's better to still buy and sell bch to increase our profit.

I am not big fan of BCH from begining its just like Trap coin . Some of the greedy people using bitcoin pouplarity by creating alternative coin . There is lots of thing pruposed in BCH but nothing is happening apart form  massive price pump and dump.

The novice is always guided, flicker. Those who play early will always guide others. The novice is always deceived and lost. BCH is recommended by those famous people. We should be careful about him.

Because there are lots of better coins from Bitcoinand BTC Cash. But they have their own name, own technology  and own ideas. None of them saying we are the real BTC. The only reason of BCH having more market share than DGB or XRB is  it has Bitcoin name on it and they have huge whales :) :)

This coin is completely copied from Bitcoin.

Because there are lots of better coins from Bitcoinand BTC Cash. But they have their own name, own technology  and own ideas. None of them saying we are the real BTC. The only reason of BCH having more market share than DGB or XRB is  it has Bitcoin name on it and they have huge whales.

I do agree with this one because at first place when way back BCH pump hard because of the fork thats why it is really well-known right now and recognize others so that time as a trader we all knew that it would really pump hard on that time now we should take advantage and get a lot of profit from it. We shouldnt hate crypto currency because it gives money to us it is just how we play with it

I hate BCH because because it does not increase price

I guess the reason that many people hates BCH is because it is trying to steal the throne of original BTC saying that it is the real Bitcoin.

It seems to me that the reason for this situation - BCH simply gives a false hope. Many predicted that the coin could compete with bitcoin, but so far no significant progress has been made.

because to my knowledge that these people from Bitcoin Cash have stated differently from Bitcoin and there are indications of overthrowing the glory of Bitcoin.

Bitcoin.com site is also its owner it is Bitcoin Cash, where there Bitcoin has a website because Bitcoin is very privacy, its founder just anonymous!

In my opinion, bitcoin cash has not a great potential for the future. I think it is just a dumping and rising coin, and I think this is not giving hope for the future.

I do not hate BCH because I know with the emergence of BCH that I know Bitcoin prices can not go up and difficult to recover so from that I do not bother bitcoin cash but many people who hate BCH for making BTC prices cannot rise in price

That's true. BCH seems to be hurting BTC to skyrocket in price since BCH took some value away from BTC.
The value of BTC and BCH mixed together would be the actual price of BTC if BCH never existed.
The market would be stronger right now.

I don't hate BCH personally. I like also BCH it is a great coin. it is just bitcoin fork. and it can give us the opportunity to make money and we use BCH for trading. and many people not like it because they cannot make money  from It.

as long as we can take the opportunity to make money from bch, we don't have to hate bch and I agree with you because I see that bch can give us a chance to get a big profit by doing trading. I see that people are trying to buy and sell the bch because they see that they can also make a profit and they still doing this at now.

Many investors came to BCH, the volume of investments increased significantly, but the value of the coin could not be increased. Therefore, there are doubts.

BCH is always attacking bitcoin which tells something about the people behind it so I will not support such thing.

Until recently, BCH was a really attractive investment. The main value lies in its own code technology. I am sure that there is still room for growth, although the full potential of the coin is not fully used now.

I hate him but not because of his shareholder operations. The reason I hate is because I don't need BCH to pay for it at all. BTC crypto currency. I think BTC is perfect. If small payments are inconvenient, ETH is sufficient. Why do you want BCH? do not understand. I will not hold it.

why not use both for what they're good? We need to stop fighting among the cryptocommunity and focus our efforts on delivering good products and bringing in new people to the scene.

because Bitcoin Cash is hated for being pumped hard while at the same time the value of Bitcoin has finally fallen, but most Bitcoin holders and investors are angry because they do not accept that Bitcoin will be replaced, I think it would be a threat to bitcoin which is the only direct coin obedient to the blockchain network or walking on it, the crypto lover who all become bitcoin can then stick to the BCH, the miners will start to get used and can undermine the great economic balance that Bitcoin provides today, Everything must start from scratch again and honestly other coins or specifically BCH is not in a position to hold it for a long time.

Why can you not accept this discussion? The discussion has been made by Bch supporter and they have good support to it.
Actually i dont like Bch as my investment but when i saw the great increase of the price, i try to accept it. We are here to invest and get profit so why not we try Bch? Not to replace bitcoin but for profit.

I totally agree with your thinking, bch birth is not much different than BTC, BTC has a long history of history and is increasingly trusted by the community, compared with children born after birth is difficult While BTC is the big brother, BTC is still the leader in this market, the restriction of BTC I see will be improved soon,while many coin will overcome the limitations of btc.

Just because BCH goes agressive politics and there are some other reason.

If we want to leap the cryptocurrency in the world.
we should support everything here in the community.
Hate has no place here .
if you dont want the coin or the token, then keep away from it.
but making them look like nothing will give us more problem in different countries.

I think BCH is a mistake, but maybe they have reasons to behave like that?

Yes , most of us hates BCH as we do not like different versions or types of bitcoin. We only need one bitcoin which is created way back in 2009 and it will always remain the real original Bitcoin. No matter how many copies you make, how many features you introduce in new bitcoin, it can never take the place of original bitcoin because Original is Original  :)

Hate the currency cash because it doesn't have any essentially presents us, personal feel to operation prices, at least I would choose the etheric as an investment, the currency cash I don't think about it.

BCH has done more damage than good. There was huge manipulation going on at soem point in a Korean exchange couple with Chris Ver's negative announcment and turning his back on Bitcoin that nearly made it very dangerous and nearly derailed the whole crypto market. This is why i will never support BCH and don't own even one ssatoshi of it and will never buy it.

Bitcoin cash doesn't have a real plan, don't know why it exists, just to operate the market? Compared with bitcoin, I won't invest even if the price is low, and I don't feel safe. It may exist as someone's earning tool, and I'm not comfortable with my money in bitcoin cash.

I don't care for it at all coz for me it's kinda clear that all that pump and stuff was to dump BTC's cost and get it at a less expensive cost and after that begin the BTC rally once more.

Because BCH is fully controlled by the just 1 man - Roger Ver who is too expressive sometimes and can't really control his emotions even in from of camera with journalist. I wouldn't trust to person like him. Yes, they can pump and dump this coin sometimes but it's not good investment long term in my opinion.

I do not exactly hate BCH, but I feel like for a coin which is a replica of another, it shouldn't be doing this bad, most especially as the other is doing well for itself. I do not see the exact need why the coin was created and for what purpose. Basically to ridicule bitcoin, I think, but it has ended up doing otherwise, cos more people are seeing that there can be nothing like BTC.

I find it funny. They are so ridiculous, you can ask them a question: "And it is not bought for ordinary currency ???". They are full of half-wits who do not like anything. :) :) :)

It is up to you to hate BCH or not. Some people may also feel the same hating in some coins. I myself will only hate of the scam ICOs or Coins. I also hate people that will make the crypto more unstable and dropped again and again. here, i don't hate BCH because it can be also a worthy investment.

I wouldn't exactly say people hate bch per sey, I just think that what they hate is the idea of this other coin coming out of nowhere and riding on th eback of what bitcoin has created in the past years. And we all know that with forks, they are always scam coins which is why bch isn't getting a lot of love from people. Who knows, the coin might just end up doing better than anyone expected.

because they do a lot of manipulation in their account. I hate bch too because the price is controlled by big shareholders so they benefit from a lot of bitcoins

Bitcoin and Bitcoin money can exist together, there's no motivation to detest on both of them. They have diverse purposes and mean to achieve distinctive things in the market, so for what reason not utilize both for what they're great? We have to quit battling among the cryptocommunity and concentrate our endeavors on conveying great items and getting new individuals to the scene.

I have no clue why individuals detests Bitcoin Cash and I figured for what reason would an extensive scale excavators were moving from Bitcoin's to Bitcoin Cash and whale brokers were attempting to pump since they have confidence in Bitcoin Cash.
Bitcoin is the most esteemed cryptographic money today yet doesn't mean it's the main digital money that ought to be the most elevated esteemed coin however every different cryptographic forms of money has the privilege additionally to pump since that is the thing that digital currency was made for.

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