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Title: SCAM: AquaMan Post by: biggie on June 23, 2013, 01:47:02 AM Hello
I want the moderators to give AquaMan a SCAM tag. Several hours ago we i made a deal through PM here on the forum with him. I wanted to buy 100 LTC from him in 4 transactions of 25 LTC each. So i sent him the first part in BTC which was 0.759 BTC while he was online. So I PM'd him it was sent and gave him also the transaction-ID. Suddenly he went offline, so i thought lets wait a bit more as he might be waiting for confirmations of the BTC. Now hours later he just came back online on the forum but still did not send the 25 LTC, did not reply to any of my PM's. The whole deal was done through PM so moderators/admins can check the PM's between him and me whenever needed. I assume before he gets the SCAM tag he'll get a bit more time to react or still complete the transaction ? Thank you Aquaman profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=128283 Title: Re: SCAM: AquaMan Post by: pheaonix on June 23, 2013, 04:26:10 AM take screenshots and post them asap
Title: Re: SCAM: AquaMan Post by: biggie on June 23, 2013, 01:57:18 PM I invite any moderator or admin to verify the PM's in my account. If needed i will supply you the password.
Title: Re: SCAM: AquaMan Post by: pbflash on June 23, 2013, 11:24:08 PM I invite any moderator or admin to verify the PM's in my account. If needed i will supply you the password. They will not do this. The burden of proof is on you. Post screenshots. Title: Re: SCAM: AquaMan Post by: Tomatocage on June 24, 2013, 12:00:35 AM I believe him. It's even rule #0 in "How to spot a scammer" stickied at the top of this thread: Newbies should never do business with other newbies.
Title: Re: SCAM: AquaMan Post by: biggie on June 24, 2013, 12:12:53 AM I believe him. It's even rule #0 in "How to spot a scammer" stickied at the top of this thread: Newbies should never do business with other newbies. Thank you and although i did keep in mind i might get scammed i didn't think it would be for such a little amount to risk his account and trust ratings. (also the reason why i wanted to do it in 4 transactions despite him asking for the full amount in 1 transaction) Looks like you got some positive feed back from John K and others, so i don't mind giving you my password so you can verify the PM's and post here that AquaMan is a scammer and must get a scamtag. Title: Re: SCAM: AquaMan Post by: pheaonix on June 24, 2013, 01:05:36 AM I believe him. It's even rule #0 in "How to spot a scammer" stickied at the top of this thread: Newbies should never do business with other newbies. Thank you and although i did keep in mind i might get scammed i didn't think it would be for such a little amount to risk his account and trust ratings. (also the reason why i wanted to do it in 4 transactions despite him asking for the full amount in 1 transaction) Looks like you got some positive feed back from John K and others, so i don't mind giving you my password so you can verify the PM's and post here that AquaMan is a scammer and must get a scamtag. you can use this tool to rapidly upload screenshots http://snapper.imgland.net/ simply download it, run it, and hit alt f1 or alt f2 and then hit paste to put the links to the pictures here Title: Re: SCAM: AquaMan Post by: biggie on June 24, 2013, 02:14:00 AM Thank you for the advise about screenshots, but those don't proof much as they can be manipulated.
All i want is an admin/mod or a very trusted person of the community to check the PM's, i will supply the pass to my account. So then they can expose this scammer for what he is. Title: Re: SCAM: AquaMan Post by: r3wt on June 24, 2013, 02:18:26 AM Thank you for the advise about screenshots, but those don't proof much as they can be manipulated. All i want is an admin/mod or a very trusted person of the community to check the PM's, i will supply the pass to my account. So then they can expose this scammer for what he is. you must provide the screenshots first, then and only then will the mods check your pms to see if the screenshots have been doctored. you'll never get a response without providing screenshots. I do believe you that Aquaman is a scammer though. several have been caught in his scams. Title: Re: SCAM: AquaMan Post by: pheaonix on June 24, 2013, 02:33:40 AM Thank you for the advise about screenshots, but those don't proof much as they can be manipulated. All i want is an admin/mod or a very trusted person of the community to check the PM's, i will supply the pass to my account. So then they can expose this scammer for what he is. this is why i urged you to post as soon as possible after it occurred. the belief that they could be manipulated is mitigated more more and the sooner they have been put up, gives the accuser less time to manipulate the screenshot. only the admin can access your pms. you did the right thing reporting this to the community. Title: Re: SCAM: AquaMan Post by: biggie on June 24, 2013, 04:23:57 AM He can't manipulate the PM's stored in his account. Even if he deletes them i still have my outgoing and incoming PM's of this specific trade.
I don't understand why the mods/admins don't take 1 minute the time to check the PM's. Or perhaps create a new "role" for a trusted person to do these kind of checks when a trade was done through PM. It saves alot of time, discussions and anger from people who keep seeing how scammers get away. PS: I won't bother with screenshots, pointless, need a well respected community member to check the PMs and post here OR mods/admins. Not going to play with screenshots, don't have time for that bullshit. I got the facts as PMs in my account, takes a MINUTE to check or less. So i call hereby either a TRUSTED community member to check my account for which i will supply the password OR mods/admins. Title: Re: SCAM: AquaMan Post by: r3wt on June 24, 2013, 04:35:04 AM /me listens to the crickets
Title: Re: SCAM: AquaMan Post by: WuLabsWuTecH on June 24, 2013, 08:51:55 AM He can't manipulate the PM's stored in his account. Even if he deletes them i still have my outgoing and incoming PM's of this specific trade. I don't understand why the mods/admins don't take 1 minute the time to check the PM's. Or perhaps create a new "role" for a trusted person to do these kind of checks when a trade was done through PM. It saves alot of time, discussions and anger from people who keep seeing how scammers get away. PS: I won't bother with screenshots, pointless, need a well respected community member to check the PMs and post here OR mods/admins. Not going to play with screenshots, don't have time for that bullshit. I got the facts as PMs in my account, takes a MINUTE to check or less. So i call hereby either a TRUSTED community member to check my account for which i will supply the password OR mods/admins. You have two options here: 1) Do what the people on this forum are asking of you, even if you feel its a waste of your time. We have established conventions around here for reasons and you will only received help if you first follow what people are telling you to do. 2) If you feel that it's a waste of your time to do as we ask, we can only assume that it's not an important enough issue to keep investigate further and we will consider this as you deciding you do not want to pursue the matter any further. It's your choice, if you want our help, you'll have to do these tasks that we ask. If you do not, we sincerely wish you the best of luck in resolving the situation on your own. And btw, taking screenshots and uploading them would have taken less time than posting here about hos it's a waste of time to do so. Title: Re: SCAM: AquaMan Post by: DiamondCardz on June 24, 2013, 05:52:10 PM He can't manipulate the PM's stored in his account. Even if he deletes them i still have my outgoing and incoming PM's of this specific trade. I don't understand why the mods/admins don't take 1 minute the time to check the PM's. Or perhaps create a new "role" for a trusted person to do these kind of checks when a trade was done through PM. It saves alot of time, discussions and anger from people who keep seeing how scammers get away. PS: I won't bother with screenshots, pointless, need a well respected community member to check the PMs and post here OR mods/admins. Not going to play with screenshots, don't have time for that bullshit. I got the facts as PMs in my account, takes a MINUTE to check or less. So i call hereby either a TRUSTED community member to check my account for which i will supply the password OR mods/admins. You don't understand, the database doesn't take "a minute" to check. Stop being lazy, and post the screenshots if you want help from the community. Title: Re: SCAM: AquaMan Post by: biggie on June 25, 2013, 04:42:01 AM He can't manipulate the PM's stored in his account. Even if he deletes them i still have my outgoing and incoming PM's of this specific trade. I don't understand why the mods/admins don't take 1 minute the time to check the PM's. Or perhaps create a new "role" for a trusted person to do these kind of checks when a trade was done through PM. It saves alot of time, discussions and anger from people who keep seeing how scammers get away. PS: I won't bother with screenshots, pointless, need a well respected community member to check the PMs and post here OR mods/admins. Not going to play with screenshots, don't have time for that bullshit. I got the facts as PMs in my account, takes a MINUTE to check or less. So i call hereby either a TRUSTED community member to check my account for which i will supply the password OR mods/admins. You don't understand, the database doesn't take "a minute" to check. Stop being lazy, and post the screenshots if you want help from the community. I think you don't understand, i am willing to give my PASSWORD of my account here for that 1 minute to verify i'm telling the truth. No bullshit of screenshots or endless database searches, just login to my account and get the facts. Title: Re: SCAM: AquaMan Post by: Tomatocage on June 25, 2013, 04:55:16 AM I think you don't understand, i am willing to give my PASSWORD of my account here for that 1 minute to verify i'm telling the truth. No bullshit of screenshots or endless database searches, just login to my account and get the facts. PM me your login. Title: Re: SCAM: AquaMan Post by: biggie on June 25, 2013, 01:44:23 PM I think you don't understand, i am willing to give my PASSWORD of my account here for that 1 minute to verify i'm telling the truth. No bullshit of screenshots or endless database searches, just login to my account and get the facts. PM me your login. Thank you, sending you now my login ! All PM's between me and AquaMan are in the inbox & outbox. Once done please post here your findings. Title: Re: SCAM: AquaMan Post by: Tomatocage on June 25, 2013, 02:09:52 PM Confirmed. The transaction took place as Biggie described.
Title: Re: SCAM: AquaMan Post by: DiamondCardz on June 25, 2013, 02:32:17 PM Confirmed. The transaction took place as Biggie described. Tomatocage, could you put some proof/screenshots up? Title: Re: SCAM: AquaMan Post by: Tomatocage on June 25, 2013, 02:35:06 PM Confirmed. The transaction took place as Biggie described. Tomatocage, could you put some proof/screenshots up? I logged in and saw the exchange between AquaMan and biggie, but I didn't take screen shots (I can't on my phone). Title: Re: SCAM: AquaMan Post by: biggie on June 25, 2013, 03:10:24 PM Confirmed. The transaction took place as Biggie described. Thank you for confirming and your bother to check this ! I hope now we can put a scammertag on AquaMan, mods ? PS: And if there is still a TRUSTED person who wants to check for himself feel free to post here and i will give you my password to verify. Title: Re: SCAM: AquaMan Post by: DiamondCardz on June 25, 2013, 03:19:00 PM Confirmed. The transaction took place as Biggie described. Thank you for confirming and your bother to check this ! I hope now we can put a scammertag on AquaMan, mods ? PS: And if there is still a TRUSTED person who wants to check for himself feel free to post here and i will give you my password to verify. The thing is, you can't just get all the mods to check, without a big scam and screenshot proof so that the mods don't have their time wasted, all you can do is have people on DefaultTrust (incl. Tomatocage and me) give them negative reputation. Also: PM me your login details and I will check and leave negative reputation if there is sufficient proof. Title: Re: SCAM: AquaMan Post by: biggie on June 25, 2013, 03:29:29 PM Confirmed. The transaction took place as Biggie described. Thank you for confirming and your bother to check this ! I hope now we can put a scammertag on AquaMan, mods ? PS: And if there is still a TRUSTED person who wants to check for himself feel free to post here and i will give you my password to verify. The thing is, you can't just get all the mods to check, without a big scam and screenshot proof so that the mods don't have their time wasted, all you can do is have people on DefaultTrust (incl. Tomatocage and me) give them negative reputation. Also: PM me your login details and I will check and leave negative reputation if there is sufficient proof. Sorry, i really need some one trusted or recommended by another trusted member. Tomatocage was recommend to me by a highly trusted person so i gave him my pass to verify my story. And it's not a waste of time, tomatocage saw it fast. So any mod/admin can do the same if they want. Right now i hope the mods/admins will act to stop this guy from scamming people. Title: Re: SCAM: AquaMan Post by: DiamondCardz on June 25, 2013, 03:32:10 PM Confirmed. The transaction took place as Biggie described. Thank you for confirming and your bother to check this ! I hope now we can put a scammertag on AquaMan, mods ? PS: And if there is still a TRUSTED person who wants to check for himself feel free to post here and i will give you my password to verify. The thing is, you can't just get all the mods to check, without a big scam and screenshot proof so that the mods don't have their time wasted, all you can do is have people on DefaultTrust (incl. Tomatocage and me) give them negative reputation. Also: PM me your login details and I will check and leave negative reputation if there is sufficient proof. Sorry, i really need some one trusted or recommended by another trusted member. Tomatocage was recommend to me by a highly trusted person so i gave him my pass to verify my story. And it's not a waste of time, tomatocage saw it fast. So any mod/admin can do the same if they want. Right now i hope the mods/admins will act to stop this guy from scamming people. They won't, only trust ratings will. Unless this guy made off with 1000 BTC, then he won't be getting a scammer tag, and without proof, then the community won't really put any reds on him :S Title: Re: SCAM: AquaMan Post by: biggie on June 25, 2013, 03:37:43 PM Confirmed. The transaction took place as Biggie described. Thank you for confirming and your bother to check this ! I hope now we can put a scammertag on AquaMan, mods ? PS: And if there is still a TRUSTED person who wants to check for himself feel free to post here and i will give you my password to verify. The thing is, you can't just get all the mods to check, without a big scam and screenshot proof so that the mods don't have their time wasted, all you can do is have people on DefaultTrust (incl. Tomatocage and me) give them negative reputation. Also: PM me your login details and I will check and leave negative reputation if there is sufficient proof. Sorry, i really need some one trusted or recommended by another trusted member. Tomatocage was recommend to me by a highly trusted person so i gave him my pass to verify my story. And it's not a waste of time, tomatocage saw it fast. So any mod/admin can do the same if they want. Right now i hope the mods/admins will act to stop this guy from scamming people. They won't, only trust ratings will. Unless this guy made off with 1000 BTC, then he won't be getting a scammer tag, and without proof, then the community won't really put any reds on him :S If some one trusted wants to vouch for you then i will give you my password so you can verify and give AquaMan a negative rating. I know it's not alot of BTC, but it's principle, next time he might take alot more from some one else in the nearby future and we all stood and watched ... If people see the community at bitcointalk deals fast with scammers it'll only be positive. Title: Re: SCAM: AquaMan Post by: DiamondCardz on June 25, 2013, 03:49:49 PM Confirmed. The transaction took place as Biggie described. Thank you for confirming and your bother to check this ! I hope now we can put a scammertag on AquaMan, mods ? PS: And if there is still a TRUSTED person who wants to check for himself feel free to post here and i will give you my password to verify. The thing is, you can't just get all the mods to check, without a big scam and screenshot proof so that the mods don't have their time wasted, all you can do is have people on DefaultTrust (incl. Tomatocage and me) give them negative reputation. Also: PM me your login details and I will check and leave negative reputation if there is sufficient proof. Sorry, i really need some one trusted or recommended by another trusted member. Tomatocage was recommend to me by a highly trusted person so i gave him my pass to verify my story. And it's not a waste of time, tomatocage saw it fast. So any mod/admin can do the same if they want. Right now i hope the mods/admins will act to stop this guy from scamming people. They won't, only trust ratings will. Unless this guy made off with 1000 BTC, then he won't be getting a scammer tag, and without proof, then the community won't really put any reds on him :S If some one trusted wants to vouch for you then i will give you my password so you can verify and give AquaMan a negative rating. I know it's not alot of BTC, but it's principle, next time he might take alot more from some one else in the nearby future and we all stood and watched ... If people see the community at bitcointalk deals fast with scammers it'll only be positive. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=55122 Don't know why I have to make myself look trusted to look at some PMs, but... I have some decent rep from trades, excluding 2 negatives, one from someone who gave me a negative rep after I gave them a negative rep (calling me an alt of Tomatocage, lmao) and one who gave me a negative rep after I called them out for literally making a thread that said 10 names and the word "SCAMMERS". I'm also on DefaultTrust: http://gyazo.com/16322964e2a6c0f60e48ff35360cf27a Satisfied? ;) Title: Re: SCAM: AquaMan Post by: Tomatocage on June 25, 2013, 04:04:12 PM Biggie, DiamondCardz is a Trusted member, so it's probably safe to PM him your login details.
Title: Re: SCAM: AquaMan Post by: biggie on June 25, 2013, 04:13:08 PM Confirmed. The transaction took place as Biggie described. Thank you for confirming and your bother to check this ! I hope now we can put a scammertag on AquaMan, mods ? PS: And if there is still a TRUSTED person who wants to check for himself feel free to post here and i will give you my password to verify. The thing is, you can't just get all the mods to check, without a big scam and screenshot proof so that the mods don't have their time wasted, all you can do is have people on DefaultTrust (incl. Tomatocage and me) give them negative reputation. Also: PM me your login details and I will check and leave negative reputation if there is sufficient proof. Sorry, i really need some one trusted or recommended by another trusted member. Tomatocage was recommend to me by a highly trusted person so i gave him my pass to verify my story. And it's not a waste of time, tomatocage saw it fast. So any mod/admin can do the same if they want. Right now i hope the mods/admins will act to stop this guy from scamming people. They won't, only trust ratings will. Unless this guy made off with 1000 BTC, then he won't be getting a scammer tag, and without proof, then the community won't really put any reds on him :S If some one trusted wants to vouch for you then i will give you my password so you can verify and give AquaMan a negative rating. I know it's not alot of BTC, but it's principle, next time he might take alot more from some one else in the nearby future and we all stood and watched ... If people see the community at bitcointalk deals fast with scammers it'll only be positive. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=55122 Don't know why I have to make myself look trusted to look at some PMs, but... I have some decent rep from trades, excluding 2 negatives, one from someone who gave me a negative rep after I gave them a negative rep (calling me an alt of Tomatocage, lmao) and one who gave me a negative rep after I called them out for literally making a thread that said 10 names and the word "SCAMMERS". I'm also on DefaultTrust: http://gyazo.com/16322964e2a6c0f60e48ff35360cf27a Satisfied? ;) Ok, i see also tomatecage trusts you so i PM'd you my login details to verify and post here your findings ! Thanks alot ! Title: Re: SCAM: AquaMan Post by: Tomatocage on June 25, 2013, 04:21:42 PM Also rep'd Mahav for sending you fake escrow info.
Title: Re: SCAM: AquaMan Post by: DiamondCardz on June 25, 2013, 04:47:38 PM Alright, from what I can see here, AquaMan did scam, and Mahav also tried to send you fake escrow info including a fake escrow PGP contract.
An agreement was made on .759 BTC for 25 LTC to the following address: https://blockchain.info/address/1MgB2nXb6Kgou3tVDoe9vVudEcDG1QVvrx Which you can see was transferred off, so AquaMan took the funds and ran for sure. http://gyazo.com/cf2eaa54eed3daf0ee6a1cda23963ad1 Which is where AquaMan states his address before the part deal (25 LTC rather than 100 at once) was confirmed. http://gyazo.com/29c766e5d06e5b8ae05555c0e5e5db0c Which is where AquaMan basically runs with the funds. The fake escrow contract is too big for gyazo, so i'll just put it in code tags: Code: Alright, I was actually able to catch John in the #bitcoin webchat, after several bouts of entering/leaving. I have not actually dealt with him before so I assume my PM wasn't high on his priorities. Anyway he sent me this on the chat: TL;DR, there's the proof, time to go neg rep AquaMan and Mahav. Title: Re: SCAM: AquaMan Post by: biggie on June 25, 2013, 04:55:03 PM Thank you, greatly appreciate it for confirming Aquaman is a scammer and also that Mahav guy who tried to scam me pretending John K send him an escrow contract for another BTC<->LTC deal !
Everyone, please give a negative rating to AquaMan and Mahav while at it. It has been proven they are scammers so let us prevent them from scamming other people ! Title: Re: SCAM: AquaMan Post by: DiamondCardz on June 25, 2013, 04:57:53 PM Thank you, greatly appreciate it for confirming Aquaman is a scammer and also that Mahav guy who tried to scam me pretending John K send him an escrow contract for another BTC<->LTC deal ! Everyone, please give a negative rating to AquaMan and Mahav while at it. It has been proven they are scammers so let us prevent them from scamming other people ! No problem, it's a pleasure to put scammers into the shitcan. Title: Re: SCAM: AquaMan Post by: biggie on June 25, 2013, 05:00:51 PM Also gave you both a positive rep for the help in bringing these scammers to justice !
Title: Re: SCAM: AquaMan Post by: DiamondCardz on June 25, 2013, 05:02:11 PM Also gave you both a positive rep for the help in bringing these scammers to justice ! Much appreciated, biggie. Just make sure to use escrow next time :) Title: Re: SCAM: AquaMan Post by: John (John K.) on June 26, 2013, 05:07:48 PM Negative rating added too.
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