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Title: ✅💰Why I'm tired of pump-channels💰
Post by: saimoooon on November 16, 2017, 06:51:15 AM
Hello! Have you already experienced usual pump-channels?
That’s such a BS. I’ve been doing it for half a year.
I’m tired of losing money because 15 seconds after a pump starts working, a coin drops.
What’s also pissing me off is that only 5% of participants are making money. Others lose money and leave a channel.

I wasn’t an exception and left a channel as well.
I’ve been working on my own trading strategy.
It wasn’t easy. I had to work at nights to understand where do we lose money.
And here it is!

I created a smart pump-channel: @pumpsmart
Up to 80% of participants win
The channel is absolutely free
I choose only high-quality coins: with appropriate volume and great information background
Pump up to 3 times a week: less frequent, but higher quality.

Bonus: quality signals from my trading strategy.

Join https://t.me/pumpsmart


Title: Re: ✅💰Why I'm tired of pump-channels💰
Post by: btcton on November 16, 2017, 07:35:18 AM
OK. What did you make so that 80% gain profits??

It's a pumping-and-dumping channel, the way I understand it. Basically, OP manages a chat in which he decides on a coin for everyone to buy in order to artificially make the prices of said coin go up and then once it reaches a certain point, the coin is dumped for maximum profit. If you are just a regular participant, chances are you will not profit from anything like this ever. The ones benefitting are usually only those at the top such as the owner and the admins. What they do is buy the coin before announcing a pump and then sell before announcing the dump. That way they will always be one step ahead of everyone else while the regular participants stampede over each other. A large number of participants is also required in order for the pump-and-dump to actually work. You should stay away from channels such as this one, as it is very unlikely that you will profit from this practice unless you are ahead of the curve.


Title: Re: ✅💰Why I'm tired of pump-channels💰
Post by: saimoooon on November 16, 2017, 07:47:50 AM
OK. What did you make so that 80% gain profits??
Analytics
proper selection of coins that do not fall like a rock
focus on the signals not the pump


Title: Re: ✅💰Why I'm tired of pump-channels💰
Post by: saimoooon on November 16, 2017, 07:52:21 AM
OK. What did you make so that 80% gain profits??

It's a pumping-and-dumping channel, the way I understand it. Basically, OP manages a chat in which he decides on a coin for everyone to buy in order to artificially make the prices of said coin go up and then once it reaches a certain point, the coin is dumped for maximum profit. If you are just a regular participant, chances are you will not profit from anything like this ever. The ones benefitting are usually only those at the top such as the owner and the admins. What they do is buy the coin before announcing a pump and then sell before announcing the dump. That way they will always be one step ahead of everyone else while the regular participants stampede over each other. A large number of participants is also required in order for the pump-and-dump to actually work. You should stay away from channels such as this one, as it is very unlikely that you will profit from this practice unless you are ahead of the curve.

you told about usual channels
I will give more signals than pump-and-dump. Quality filters of coins is an answer. I can't predict, but I can analyze and make smart pump


Title: Re: ✅💰Why I'm tired of pump-channels💰
Post by: Ksin.pik on November 16, 2017, 08:09:56 AM
so how is your channel different from the others?


Title: Re: ✅💰Why I'm tired of pump-channels💰
Post by: Text on November 16, 2017, 08:13:05 AM
Telegram channels are flooding with signals, pumps and dumps.
Do you know what I heard about them? They are sharing those signals just to benefits their own investments. They are making announcements just to bring profits on the coin they already had.
Let's say some do make money out of it but there is no 100% assurance that you will always have successful trades. Because a trader can make his own analysis as following the strategies you knew.


Title: Re: ✅💰Why I'm tired of pump-channels💰
Post by: saimoooon on November 16, 2017, 08:27:07 AM
We’re working on an unordinary project called RESONANSIVE (smart) pumps. This is not a pump channel where people lose all their money in a moment.
When we reach more than 3000 subscribers we will introduce a special bot that can be invited into YOUR OWN pump channel and publish info about the pump to your subscribers. All channel owners will know which coin to buy just before the pump.
Our pumps will be LONG and RESONANSIVE. Let's have fun!


Title: Re: ✅💰Why I'm tired of pump-channels💰
Post by: Viktor.tt on November 16, 2017, 08:56:18 AM
great idea, obviously! so how to join?


Title: Re: ✅💰Why I'm tired of pump-channels💰
Post by: porto-pok on November 16, 2017, 09:05:54 AM
If you want to make money with this, you must have a BOT


Title: Re: ✅💰Why I'm tired of pump-channels💰
Post by: p3ppymon on November 16, 2017, 01:24:12 PM
As said, the concept is nice but we would need more info and details about how this will actually work.
Nevertheless, if you can fix the link to join the Telegram group, as the one in OP does not work.


Title: Re: ✅💰Why I'm tired of pump-channels💰
Post by: AdolfinWolf on November 16, 2017, 01:28:12 PM
great idea, obviously! so how to join?

Worst and most unoriginal idea i've heard in ages.

Interesting. But need more info!

I'll give you the information you will need,

This is another P&D scam with just another foiliage around it.

There's no such thing as a "Smart Pump", he's using all those buzzwords without understanding the meaning.

Ontop of that, he is playing to victim role in order to try and convince you, which makes it pretty obvious to me that he is just another scammer who's out here for your money.

OK. What did you make so that 80% gain profits??
Analytics
proper selection of coins that do not fall like a rock
focus on the signals not the pump

And at the end of the day it is still another P&D.

Quote
proper selection of coins that do not fall like a rock

You're going to pump coins like ethereum?


Title: Re: ✅💰Why I'm tired of pump-channels💰
Post by: cioloxl on November 16, 2017, 01:29:02 PM
I'm having some flashes of memes with anakin fighting obi wan. But I digress. There is no pump channel in which people win. That is all. Even when they seem to be doing it out of the "kindness of their hearts", there's still an ulterior motive. Usually a paid vip channel or something.


Title: Re: ✅💰Why I'm tired of pump-channels💰
Post by: Poy.Jon on November 16, 2017, 01:59:07 PM
have you already tested it?


Title: Re: ✅💰Why I'm tired of pump-channels💰
Post by: DARKANGEL6415 on November 16, 2017, 02:08:17 PM
Good morning all, so this title might be a tad bit misleading. I came in here thinking i was going to read something different. In any case as noted above like 99.9% of " free " pump and dumps are free because they need people to buy. Kinda reminds me of the old chat days with cryptsy or havelock investment.


Title: Re: ✅💰Why I'm tired of pump-channels💰
Post by: Anton_p on November 16, 2017, 02:35:43 PM
how many people already use it?


Title: Re: ✅💰Why I'm tired of pump-channels💰
Post by: fireblond on November 16, 2017, 02:44:06 PM
Never been a fan of pump and dumps they almost always negatively affect the coin and make potential future investors scared, alt coins should grow steadily!


Title: Re: ✅💰Why I'm tired of pump-channels💰
Post by: rey6te on November 16, 2017, 04:00:31 PM
what resources do you use here?


Title: Re: ✅💰Why I'm tired of pump-channels💰
Post by: nydiacaskey01 on November 16, 2017, 04:02:39 PM
~snip~
At first I thought you are really sick and tired of those pump and dump groups that sprouted like mushrooms in telegram, but after reading your entire post, you are just another guy who created another pump and dump group with a promise of gaining profits. Nothing is free nowadays, you get profits when you buy at low price and sell after you announced made the signal.


Title: Re: ✅💰Why I'm tired of pump-channels💰
Post by: Viktor.tt on November 16, 2017, 04:35:22 PM
are you sure it wouldnt drop the coin?


Title: Re: ✅💰Why I'm tired of pump-channels💰
Post by: TrumpD on November 16, 2017, 06:41:49 PM
how does your channel work?

99.9% of these channels don't work, the only ones benefiting are the ones issuing the signals, which they do according to their agendas. So unless you are running your own group, make no mistake, you will lose. And in some cases, lose big. I once tried going in the opposite direction of what an admin of a particular group announced, and guess what? I finally made some profit...


Title: Re: ✅💰Why I'm tired of pump-channels💰
Post by: Ksin.pik on November 16, 2017, 07:35:30 PM
how does your channel work?


Title: Re: ✅💰Why I'm tired of pump-channels💰
Post by: Commie on November 16, 2017, 07:36:30 PM
I guess this gus has finally figured out how these channels really work and decided to create his own one to try benefit from it :)


Title: Re: ✅💰Why I'm tired of pump-channels💰
Post by: tabas on November 16, 2017, 09:55:33 PM
how does your channel work?

99.9% of these channels don't work, the only ones benefiting are the ones issuing the signals, which they do according to their agendas. So unless you are running your own group, make no mistake, you will lose. And in some cases, lose big. I once tried going in the opposite direction of what an admin of a particular group announced, and guess what? I finally made some profit...
Exactly these channels were the usual pump and dump groups and as exposed before by btcton they are still like before. There's no change, they remain constant benefits only goes to the first people that will get into that pump early and will be too late for the selling time.


Title: Re: ✅💰Why I'm tired of pump-channels💰
Post by: vit05 on November 16, 2017, 10:05:28 PM
Why these people that Like to invite to pump channels don't create a topic before showing the gains for one week? Like the topic "from 10 thousand to 1 million".

You could show in real time how you gone make profits and then everybody will be able to compare if what you claim is true. Just 2 weeks of pump and dump...


Title: Re: ✅💰Why I'm tired of pump-channels💰
Post by: Poy.Jon on November 17, 2017, 06:40:49 AM
Do you haveuch experience in pumping channels?


Title: Re: ✅💰Why I'm tired of pump-channels💰
Post by: Guzztsar on November 17, 2017, 06:47:43 AM
OK. What did you make so that 80% gain profits??

It's a pumping-and-dumping channel, the way I understand it. Basically, OP manages a chat in which he decides on a coin for everyone to buy in order to artificially make the prices of said coin go up and then once it reaches a certain point, the coin is dumped for maximum profit. If you are just a regular participant, chances are you will not profit from anything like this ever. The ones benefitting are usually only those at the top such as the owner and the admins. What they do is buy the coin before announcing a pump and then sell before announcing the dump. That way they will always be one step ahead of everyone else while the regular participants stampede over each other. A large number of participants is also required in order for the pump-and-dump to actually work. You should stay away from channels such as this one, as it is very unlikely that you will profit from this practice unless you are ahead of the curve.
I never got interested to know more about such groups and how it works, sounds too good to be true
Despite the obvious inefficiency, was good read this description of how dirty they play.


Title: Re: ✅💰Why I'm tired of pump-channels💰
Post by: saimoooon on November 17, 2017, 06:59:15 AM
yes, I’m agree, pump-and-dump is bullshit.
Everybody there want to have a freebie. They choose deadlock coins and make hype in hope to make FAST money. But all participants loose.

We go another way. We take only live altcoins with positive information and news, promote signals and invest. We wait for grows not 6% per 15 seconds on hype. We tell about 5% per day or week. It is LONGPLAY, not a freebie.
How about invest together?


Title: Re: ✅💰Why I'm tired of pump-channels💰
Post by: FedAsker on November 17, 2017, 09:05:58 AM
yes, I’m agree, pump-and-dump is bullshit.
Everybody there want to have a freebie. They choose deadlock coins and make hype in hope to make FAST money. But all participants loose.

We go another way. We take only live altcoins with positive information and news, promote signals and invest. We wait for grows not 6% per 15 seconds on hype. We tell about 5% per day or week. It is LONGPLAY, not a freebie.
How about invest together?

So, if you are able to choose good altcoins for long time investment, why do you need other people involved in pump-up at all?