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Title: STRONGCOIN, NOT RECOGNIZING VALID PRIVATE KEYS, SOMETHING WRONG
Post by: bitcoinologist on June 23, 2013, 09:46:00 AM
Hi,

I posting a few days back about a problem with strongcoin not recognizing my private key pass and or not created one or indeed losing it.

I created an account sometime back, one main pass for log and withdraw, loading it with hard earned BTC over past months, then came to withdraw and NADDA. Private key invalid, sorry you have lost all your coins !!....

I Posted here, as was unsure what the hell was happening, and received help from forum members and indeed "some" help from strongcoin and all was of the same lines. If you have lost/forgotten your private key, we cannot help you. I tried to export my key but got password "invalid" response, so I was kinda screwed.


Well...Here is the thing...I call BULLSHIT on this and here is why.

Knowing for a god damn fact that I keep copies of any and all passes, I KNOW, I would of kept a copy of the passes used and indeed have. I used ONE pass for log and private key but it was not being recognized. Also the amount of BTC is not the kind of amount you would forget about.

So, getting a little tired of simply being told, its your fault, no key, no coins, I will "try" and help but without your private key there is nothing I can do etc etc
I thought I would test "Strongcoin.om" out some.

And here are the results.

I created a NEW strong coin account.

Set up my log in password. Set up my private key password
I deposited 0.1234 BTC into my NEW account.
I then withdrew 0.1 BTC using my "private" key password (worked fine).
I then, attempted to export my private key.
Hit the little blue button, entered my private key (yes exactly the same one that allowed me to withdraw 0.1) and guess what....INVALID.

THE EXACT SAME PRIVATE KEY WAS NOW INVALID.

And to prove this point any and all members are welcome to log into this account and see what is happening. You can see the transactions that PROVE account movements, in and out and use of private key. The you can prove that same private key is INVALID if you wish to export private key

bitcoinologist@tormail.org
Log In Password:jdfhr87fo90t78v9qw8=908wfsdklfj349058afioasif234980-49uf[giui
Private Key:idusf903485fui09348asduif982390=48*()&*(_&dsf8903475-iofua90sf78d9f

And note: I tried this from the same browser I created account from and from another, from my own IP, from tor, from firefox you can try from damn anywhere and it still does not work.


"THEREFORE, IN CONCLUSION"

Ian of strongcoin.

Your system is at fault and not me.

You and your strongcoin set up owe me exactly 75.54 BTC and I do not wish to hear any more BS about, oooh we can't help if you don't have your private key.

"I DO HAVE MY PRIVATE KEY, IT IS JUST YOUR SYSTEM DOES NOT RECOGNIZE IT."

"THIS POST IS A PUBLIC STATEMENT AND UNTIL THIS IS RESOLVED/EXPLAINED I CALL BULLSHIT AND AN OUTSTANDING AMOUNT OF 75.54 BTC TO BE PAID TO ME ASAP."


Title: Re: STRONGCOIN, NOT RECOGNIZING VALID PRIVATE KEYS, SOMETHING WRONG
Post by: bg002h on June 23, 2013, 03:31:13 PM
You're still holding strongcoin? There's still an exchange rate? I thought I sold the last 1000 strong coins before the main exchange went down.

Strong coin seemed purpose built to make that dude money. I'm glad I got out.


Title: Re: STRONGCOIN, NOT RECOGNIZING VALID PRIVATE KEYS, SOMETHING WRONG
Post by: Este Nuno on June 23, 2013, 04:20:09 PM
You're still holding strongcoin? There's still an exchange rate? I thought I sold the last 1000 strong coins before the main exchange went down.

Strong coin seemed purpose built to make that dude money. I'm glad I got out.

Funny :P But the guy is currently out 75 btc. So probably not the best time to make jokes.


Title: Re: STRONGCOIN, NOT RECOGNIZING VALID PRIVATE KEYS, SOMETHING WRONG
Post by: moni3z on June 23, 2013, 11:16:13 PM
Download Electrum and manually enter the private key into electrum.dat
Surprise.. you now have access to all your coins.


Title: Re: STRONGCOIN, NOT RECOGNIZING VALID PRIVATE KEYS, SOMETHING WRONG
Post by: bitcoinologist on June 23, 2013, 11:36:17 PM
Hi,

Thanks moni,

Never worked with electrum, would you mind explaining a little more what I would need to do.

And, it would seem this shitcoin guy is a known scam ?

Then why the hell he allowed on here ? and please do share any info on him :)


Title: Re: STRONGCOIN, NOT RECOGNIZING VALID PRIVATE KEYS, SOMETHING WRONG
Post by: moni3z on June 23, 2013, 11:45:33 PM
Download  electrum (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Electrum), install and generate a new wallet (don't encrypt).
Now open up electrum.dat in any text editor, and find where the new addresses were generated. Cut out whatever is there and replace with your Bitcoin address(1JwSSubhmg6iPtRjtyqhUYYH7bZg3Lfy1T), and private key (5KJvsngHeMpm884wtkJNzQGaCErckhHJBGFsvd3VyK5qMZXj3hS). Re-start electrum and voila, coins ready.

Or try this:
./electrum import 1JwSSubhmg6iPtRjtyqhUYYH7bZg3Lfy1T:5KJvsngHeMpm884wtkJNzQGaCErckhHJBGFsvd3VyK5qMZXj3hS

(note "./" is for linux if electrum isn't in your path, there is windows version of electrum too http://electrum.org/download.html

You can probably just punch the key into Multibit wallet too but I've never used it.





Title: Re: STRONGCOIN, NOT RECOGNIZING VALID PRIVATE KEYS, SOMETHING WRONG
Post by: bitcoinologist on June 23, 2013, 11:49:24 PM
OK,

Kinda with you however, how do I get my private key ?

That is kinda the whole point of my post and the "scam" with strongcoin. You have to enter your password to get your "private key" and magically the password you created to generate your "private key" is always recognized as invalid even if it is the correct one.


Title: Re: STRONGCOIN, NOT RECOGNIZING VALID PRIVATE KEYS, SOMETHING WRONG
Post by: moni3z on June 23, 2013, 11:50:36 PM
OK,

Kinda with you however, how do I get my private key ?

That is kinda the whole point of my post and the "scam" with strongcoin. You have to enter your password to get your "private key" and magically the password you created to generate your "private key" is always recognized as invalid even if it is the correct one.

I thought you already extracted your private key before you sent the coins there, then couldn't get into it when you tried to make a new strongcoin account and put in the old key.

Oops. In that case you're fucked just keep harassing Stroingcoin support :S


Title: Re: STRONGCOIN, NOT RECOGNIZING VALID PRIVATE KEYS, SOMETHING WRONG
Post by: bitcoinologist on June 23, 2013, 11:54:25 PM
lol I wish.

No that is the problem and issue I have found with strong coin.

You can create an account. Enter your password to create your "private key" but the minute you try export your key, that exact same password is now invalid.

Either a genuine glitch..a serious one...or just another clever scam which they hide behind the, ooops you must have your password wrong, sorry we cannot help.


Title: Re: STRONGCOIN, NOT RECOGNIZING VALID PRIVATE KEYS, SOMETHING WRONG
Post by: moni3z on June 24, 2013, 12:12:20 AM
I played around with your account and besides Strongcoin occasionally self destructing (probably because of the GoDaddy DNS outage earlier today) I was able to click on Generate PDF keys and got the full private key (encrypted)

So you should be able to take that encrypted key to your command line openssl and extract it:
https://www.strongcoin.com/en/blog/decrypting_private_keys_generated_with_strongcoin

openssl enc -d -aes-256-cbc -in key.txt -a -k idusf903485fui09348asduif982390=48*()&*(_&dsf8903475-iofua90sf78d9f


Title: Re: STRONGCOIN, NOT RECOGNIZING VALID PRIVATE KEYS, SOMETHING WRONG
Post by: moni3z on June 24, 2013, 12:16:58 AM
It worked, I just decrypted your private key for 19nS5jneSzToPysZkkCrNJGW7mYu2jtbU

For some reason the Strongcoin UI doesn't accept that password, maybe too many characters or invalid char who knows, but command line it works fine.



Title: Re: STRONGCOIN, NOT RECOGNIZING VALID PRIVATE KEYS, SOMETHING WRONG
Post by: r3wt on June 24, 2013, 12:26:13 AM
please do not post real private keys on the forum.


Title: Re: STRONGCOIN, NOT RECOGNIZING VALID PRIVATE KEYS, SOMETHING WRONG
Post by: moni3z on June 24, 2013, 12:38:31 AM
please do not post real private keys on the forum.

they are test keys with no balance HURRDURR
though I hope this guy didn't reuse that password anywhere. anyways, confirmed Strongcoin UI bug.



Title: Re: STRONGCOIN, NOT RECOGNIZING VALID PRIVATE KEYS, SOMETHING WRONG
Post by: r3wt on June 24, 2013, 12:53:46 AM
please do not post real private keys on the forum.

they are test keys with no balance HURRDURR
though I hope this guy didn't reuse that password anywhere. anyways, confirmed Strongcoin UI bug.



i can comfirm the strong coin ui bug as well. anywho, i imported the priv key to try to help. now i can't figure out how to strip the address from my wallet. could i do it with pywallet perhaps?


Title: Re: STRONGCOIN, NOT RECOGNIZING VALID PRIVATE KEYS, SOMETHING WRONG
Post by: bitcoinologist on June 24, 2013, 06:35:26 AM
Hey thanks man,

I appreciate your time.

However, the account containing my currently lost 75.54 BTC is not that account. lol

I created that "bitcoinologist"  account to "prove the point" about private keys.

Although I you believe you can do the same for account I am stuck with, please PM as hell, if you can get back my BTC, I will give you a handful no problems !!!

thanks again.


Title: Re: STRONGCOIN, NOT RECOGNIZING VALID PRIVATE KEYS, SOMETHING WRONG
Post by: r3wt on June 24, 2013, 06:38:43 AM
Hey thanks man,

I appreciate your time.

However, the account containing my currently lost 75.54 BTC is not that account. lol

I created that "bitcoinologist"  account to "prove the point" about private keys.

Although I you believe you can do the same for account I am stuck with, please PM as hell, if you can get back my BTC, I will give you a handful no problems !!!

thanks again.

i'll help you. pm me