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Title: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: monstrs on June 23, 2013, 07:52:40 PM
I am sorry to make this topic, but i am really interested in buying few, but paying for shipping 1BTC is just too much and right now i cant find others, who are shipping to EU, so maybe someone with good reputation woul like to make group buy? Thanks, will delete thread as soon normal option for EU members will be available.


Title: Re: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: CanaryInTheMine on June 23, 2013, 08:27:26 PM
I am sorry to make this topic, but i am really interested in buying few, but paying for shipping 1BTC is just too much and right now i cant find others, who are shipping to EU, so maybe someone with good reputation woul like to make group buy? Thanks, will delete thread as soon normal option for EU members will be available.
why don't you organize one?  if you need escrow, I can be of service  ;D


Title: Re: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: az12 on June 23, 2013, 08:34:04 PM
Not sure you can..... From friedcats message

If we get an excluding deal with resellers in some certain countries we will stop directly supply USBs towards there, as in the case of China zone, Canada zone, and EU zone.

Looks like yxt has some kind of deal not sure quite what this means though.......


Title: Re: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: monstrs on June 23, 2013, 08:47:43 PM
Not sure you can..... From friedcats message

If we get an excluding deal with resellers in some certain countries we will stop directly supply USBs towards there, as in the case of China zone, Canada zone, and EU zone.

Looks like yxt has some kind of deal not sure quite what this means though.......

I contacted yxt, he must clarify things too.


Title: Re: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: yxt on June 23, 2013, 09:23:51 PM
Hello

you can buy directly, no minimum
they will be in stock within the EU
so there is no need for a GB

but friedcats update was a little bit surprising for me.
There are still a few things to clarify.
Must first talk to him and my business partner tomorrow

so pls give me a few days, thx

best yxt


Title: Re: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: uk1 on June 23, 2013, 10:59:15 PM
how much for shipping to uk?


Title: Re: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: cpunks on June 23, 2013, 10:59:59 PM
Thanks for the info. If a source within the EU for simple (to the tune of 1 BTC) ASIC devices existed, so I wouldn't have to explain to customs officials what an ASIC is (or worse, what Bitcoin is and why they cannot have an invoice, or why the value is denoted in a currency which changes in value over 10% per day), I would be interested. :)

Would be interested in shipping cost estimates to Estonia.


Title: Re: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: jimmy3dita on June 24, 2013, 12:01:13 AM
Hello

you can buy directly, no minimum
they will be in stock within the EU
so there is no need for a GB

but friedcats update was a little bit surprising for me.
There are still a few things to clarify.
Must first talk to him and my business partner tomorrow

so pls give me a few days, thx

best yxt

I'm in, I'd like to buy 2 (by now)


Title: Re: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: VeeMiner on June 24, 2013, 06:06:12 AM
Hello

you can buy directly, no minimum
they will be in stock within the EU
so there is no need for a GB

but friedcats update was a little bit surprising for me.
There are still a few things to clarify.
Must first talk to him and my business partner tomorrow

so pls give me a few days, thx

best yxt

alright, please let us know when there is stock, I would definitely like to get some!


Title: Re: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: tosku on June 24, 2013, 08:21:03 AM
so pls give me a few days, thx

best yxt

Looking forward to that update.


Title: Re: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: vanycon on June 24, 2013, 10:27:36 AM
alright, please let us know when there is stock, I would definitely like to get some!

As I see yxt is located to Germany, so I think shipping national is about 4,90-6,90€ and international about 15€ (with DHL)


Title: Re: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: alexius89 on June 24, 2013, 11:03:59 AM
yxt   any news regarding a group Buy?    50 Sticks minimum are pretty many if someone want to buy them directly.


Title: Re: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: excalibur on June 24, 2013, 01:01:39 PM
I have no problem buying 50 pieces and then reselling them for 1.1 BTC each + shipping fee, but it says that for the EU, there already is an agreement with yxt.


Title: Re: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: evilscoop on June 24, 2013, 01:05:45 PM
*watching*


Title: Re: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: demzie on June 24, 2013, 01:16:43 PM
0.99 BTC nice! *watching*


Title: Re: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: borneo on June 24, 2013, 01:45:54 PM
watching


Title: Re: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: ampu on June 24, 2013, 02:01:55 PM
watching as well


Title: Re: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: SJet2003 on June 24, 2013, 02:39:28 PM
Likewise, still waiting for a PM or response here from YXT.  :D


Title: Re: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: albon on June 24, 2013, 08:43:07 PM
any news on how we buy these in Europe?


Title: Re: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: dnaleor on June 24, 2013, 09:44:27 PM
watching.

Hopefully he does a discount for larger orders.
The 0.89 BTC maybe as announced by friedcat? ;)


Title: Re: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: jimmy3dita on June 24, 2013, 10:31:21 PM
The 0,99 price would be fantastic, unfortunately there's some VAT to add on it... and some import duties!


Title: Re: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: dnaleor on June 24, 2013, 10:37:07 PM
The 0,99 price would be fantastic, unfortunately there's some VAT to add on it... and some import duties!
The 0,89 price would be fantastic, unfortunately there's some VAT to add on it... and some import duties!
=> 0.99? :)


Title: Re: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: monstrs on June 24, 2013, 10:39:23 PM
Can EU members order 1000 units? Doubt about that. Who nows though.


Title: Re: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: ct1aic on June 25, 2013, 11:43:07 AM
Also watching... :D


Title: Re: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: evilscoop on June 25, 2013, 01:18:56 PM
at this price they start to get worth buying.....
hope we get some news soon


Title: Re: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: yxt on June 25, 2013, 01:39:14 PM
Hello,

short update:

you can buy directly, no GB, no minimum
they will be in stock within the EU.
shipping will be from Germany with DHL
oder registered priority mail

But friedcats update was a little bit surprising for me.
Because there are still a few things to clarify.
Must first talk to him and my business partner

Prices are not set yet.
We will try to make the same price as the canadian reseller
So only a rough estimate:

1 unit 1,19
>=10 units 1,09
>=50 units 0.99
excluding shipping


DHL parcel within EU: ~15€
registered priority mail, worldwide: ~6€
both with tracking

will look into express and insured shipping options this week

Is there a interest for purchasing usb hubs, Raspberry Pi and sdcards with a ready to mine image together with the miners?

so pls give me a few days, thx


best yxt


Title: Re: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: Moogle on June 25, 2013, 01:51:59 PM
fantastic news :D i'll be getting an order to you soon :D


Title: Re: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: tosku on June 25, 2013, 02:01:15 PM
Is there a interest for purchasing usb hubs, Raspberry Pi and sdcards with a ready to mine image together with the miners?

Depending on the price, yes.


Title: Re: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: OutCast3k on June 25, 2013, 02:19:31 PM
awesome ;D looking forward to an update yxt


Title: Re: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: evilscoop on June 25, 2013, 03:35:52 PM
vat ?


Title: Re: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: ct1aic on June 25, 2013, 04:01:29 PM

Quote
We will try to make the same price as the canadian reseller


10 Units costs with the american/canadian Resseller:  10.1618BTC

Quote
10=.99*5 + 0.2618=9.9+0.2618= 10.1618 BTC


with yxt:  10 devices will costs:  10.9BTC

Quote
>=10 units 1,09


How it can be same?!
Don't forget that we, Europeans, have Customs and they love the VAT...


Title: Re: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: OutCast3k on June 25, 2013, 05:38:39 PM
friedcats Unit price before: 1.99 BTC

The Price per Unit  of the Great Britan group Buy from Augusto Groppo was:  2.1 BTC excl. shipping

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=195540.msg2568118#msg2568118

...so tell me guys how it that Possible?  England has a VAT of 20%?

If Augusto Croppo  really pays the 20%  VAT  then the price per Unit  should be at least  2.388 BTC excl. shipping


any clues?

Edit:  please correct me if there is something wrong with the maths.

Augusto Croppo did not pay 20% VAT (import duty) on the price. (Obviously)

Its my understanding friedcat has some other way of avoiding it as mentioned by someone else in this topic.

Sorry not trying to drop anyone in it.


Title: Re: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: m14yen on June 25, 2013, 06:05:34 PM
Hey yxt I'll take 18 shipped to the UK express please as soon as you're ready
(parcel took 6 days last time someone shipped from Germany to UK for me) .


Title: Re: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: OutCast3k on June 25, 2013, 06:24:12 PM
maybe he paid VAT but a very small amount because Friedcat valued the Units as less than 5$ (just an estimation) per Piece. So I'm wondering why do we should pay VAT on about 100$ ( 1 Unit )?

I'd agree with you on that.


Title: Re: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: ct1aic on June 25, 2013, 08:42:26 PM
Interesting news from BTC Guild site:

USB Block Erupter (ASICMINER) Sales
Starting this weekend, BTC Guild will be selling ASICMINER's USB Block Erupters at excellent prices. Block Erupters are small ASICs powered entirely by a USB port, which mine at 330 MH/s each.

Block Erupters will be sold at a cost of 1 BTC each, with shipping based on the size of the order (0.03 BTC for 1-3, 0.08 for 4-9, 0.15 for 10+). Sales through the website will be restricted to US based customers, but special arrangements can be made via email for international customers.

Block Erupters are an excellent replacement for GPU miners. While a GPU produces large amounts of noise, heat, and draws significant amounts of power, a USB miner makes no noise and pulls less than 2.5 watts of power.

Block Erupter sales are NOT pre-orders. While in stock they will ship out within 24 hours via First Class or Priority USPS with tracking, likely showing up anywhere in the US within 5 business days. If stock runs out, notice will be given on the order page that an additional 5-7 business day delay may be required before shipping.
June 25th, 2013


Title: Re: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: ct1aic on June 25, 2013, 09:05:43 PM
From friedcat:
Block Erupter USB Sales [New Sales Policy with New Price] - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=217104.msg2280990#msg2280990 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=217104.msg2280990#msg2280990)
27 May 2013, 04:54:50

Quote
This is the information thread of sales for our Block Erupter USB sticks.

New Sales Policy

Customers in China, Hong Kong, Macau and Taiwan Please contact forum member rockxie(with e-mail address: rockxie@gmail.com), whose RRP is agreed by us.

Customers in Canada Please contact forum member teek, whose RRP is agreed by us.

Customers in EU, Switzerland and North Europe non-EU countries Please contact forum member yxt, whose RRP is agreed by us.

Customers in the rest of the world
Minimum Order Volume of 50 USB sticks. Price of 0.99 each. 2% sent as redundancy (not in warranty). Shipping is free.
  If you reach the total volume of 1,000 USB sticks, price is dropped to 0.89 each. We will also pay back the price difference of all your historic transaction (timeline started from the 0.99 pricing) of USB sticks. For example, if you bought more than 1,000 sticks, 500 for 1.99 and 500 for 0.99, the new price will be 0.89, and we will pay you the price difference for the 0.99 USB sticks, that is (0.99-0.89)*500=50BTC.
  If we get an excluding deal with resellers in some certain countries we will stop directly supply USBs towards there, as in the case of China zone, Canada zone, and EU zone.


Title: Re: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: demzie on June 25, 2013, 09:08:26 PM
Interesting news from BTC Guild site:

USB Block Erupter (ASICMINER) Sales
Starting this weekend, BTC Guild will be selling ASICMINER's USB Block Erupters at excellent prices. Block Erupters are small ASICs powered entirely by a USB port, which mine at 330 MH/s each.

Block Erupters will be sold at a cost of 1 BTC each, with shipping based on the size of the order (0.03 BTC for 1-3, 0.08 for 4-9, 0.15 for 10+). Sales through the website will be restricted to US based customers, but special arrangements can be made via email for international customers.

Block Erupters are an excellent replacement for GPU miners. While a GPU produces large amounts of noise, heat, and draws significant amounts of power, a USB miner makes no noise and pulls less than 2.5 watts of power.

Block Erupter sales are NOT pre-orders. While in stock they will ship out within 24 hours via First Class or Priority USPS with tracking, likely showing up anywhere in the US within 5 business days. If stock runs out, notice will be given on the order page that an additional 5-7 business day delay may be required before shipping.
June 25th, 2013

Okay, but this is a EU thread :) We have teh germans as suppliers :)


Title: Re: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: yxt on June 25, 2013, 11:21:10 PM
Quote
We will try to make the same price as the canadian reseller

...some numbers...

How it can be same?!

You're talking about a US GB, not the official canadian reseller


Quote
vat ?
We will provide a invoice from a registered company in Germany


Title: Re: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: nottm28 on June 25, 2013, 11:26:37 PM
Quote
We will try to make the same price as the canadian reseller

...some numbers...

How it can be same?!

You're talking about a US GB, the official canadian reseller is here:
http://www.wtcr.ca/catalog/bitcoin-mining-asics


Quote
vat ?
We will provide a invoice from a registered company in Germany

But when will we get an update on EU yxt? it's been a few days now...


Title: Re: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: Deafboy on June 26, 2013, 03:18:15 AM
yxt, in the topic from your signature you mentioned free shipping for electrum server ops. Is this offer still valid?


Title: Re: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: VeeMiner on June 26, 2013, 08:42:13 AM
Hello,

short update:

you can buy directly, no GB, no minimum
they will be in stock within the EU.
shipping will be from Germany with DHL
oder registered priority mail

But friedcats update was a little bit surprising for me.
Because there are still a few things to clarify.
Must first talk to him and my business partner

Prices are not set yet.
We will try to make the same price as the canadian reseller
So only a rough estimate:

1 unit 1,19
>=10 units 1,09
>=50 units 0.99
excluding shipping


DHL parcel within EU: ~15€
registered priority mail, worldwide: ~6€
both with tracking

will look into express and insured shipping options this week

Is there a interest for purchasing usb hubs, Raspberry Pi and sdcards with a ready to mine image together with the miners?

so pls give me a few days, thx


best yxt


well if you manage to order more than 1000 pieces you should get to price 0.89 for yourself, then you can still sell to us for 0.99 and make a nice profit. So I think that 1.19 price is a bit steep... but thanks for the info anyway, I'll get some for sure!


Title: Re: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: MarpleTrading on June 26, 2013, 09:09:47 AM
Will it be possible to ever exploit these USB miners profitable???


Title: Re: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: VeeMiner on June 26, 2013, 11:26:49 AM
Will it be possible to ever exploit these USB miners profitable???

i'm not sure i understand your broken english but yes

- you might never break even
- you might make money

veeminer out


Title: Re: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: yxt on June 26, 2013, 12:02:13 PM
yxt, in the topic from your signature you mentioned free shipping for electrum server ops. Is this offer still valid?

yes

-----------

There are enough devices on the way...
Sorry that I have not yet replied to all PMs. There are just too many.
Please always reply with quote otherwise I can only guess what exactly you refering to


Title: Re: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: tosku on June 26, 2013, 12:29:15 PM
So, are you ready to accept orders now?


Title: Re: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: vanycon on June 26, 2013, 01:13:03 PM
There are enough devices on the way...

Nice to hear,

so the prices that you mentioned are final?
And for Germans there are no more costs such as the good known "MEHRWERTSTEUER" :D - i Like that word - or shipping?

Thank you


Title: Re: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: 2weiX on June 26, 2013, 01:22:31 PM
be sure to stock up on Ankers, as well^^


Title: Re: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: cr003l7y on June 26, 2013, 04:01:43 PM
I also look forward to buy few - how and when will I be able to order them? 8)


Title: Re: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: prophetx on June 27, 2013, 05:57:52 AM
Hello,

short update:

you can buy directly, no GB, no minimum
they will be in stock within the EU.
shipping will be from Germany with DHL
oder registered priority mail



when will they be in stock?  do you an eta?


Title: Re: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: albon on June 27, 2013, 06:57:02 AM
Is there any way for me to buy with GBP £ as I don't have the btc yet?


Title: Re: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: SJet2003 on June 27, 2013, 09:13:29 AM
Is there any way for me to buy with GBP £ as I don't have the btc yet?

https://www.bittylicious.com/


Title: Re: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: an4xifutz on June 27, 2013, 01:24:03 PM
Hi, ich würde 5 Stück abnehmen. Vielleicht habe ich ja jetzt glück welche zu bekommen falls verfügbar.



Title: Re: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: hanti on June 27, 2013, 04:52:35 PM
any update yxt ?


Title: Re: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: Stinky_Pete on June 27, 2013, 08:21:09 PM
Is there any way for me to buy with GBP £ as I don't have the btc yet?

https://bitbargain.co.uk/


Title: Re: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: ampu on June 28, 2013, 08:38:38 PM
any update yxt ?

+1


Title: Re: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: uk1 on June 28, 2013, 08:41:28 PM

+2


Title: Re: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: demzie on June 28, 2013, 08:42:20 PM

+3


Title: Re: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: play on June 28, 2013, 09:08:21 PM

+4


Title: Re: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: ct1aic on June 28, 2013, 09:19:46 PM

+5


Title: Re: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: albon on June 28, 2013, 09:35:20 PM

+6


Title: Re: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: Josue on June 28, 2013, 10:45:36 PM

+7


Title: Re: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: NR3000 on June 28, 2013, 11:03:13 PM

+8


Title: Re: ASICminer usb miner 0.99 BTC in EU group buy
Post by: yxt on June 29, 2013, 01:54:30 AM
English version is here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=246020.0)