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Title: Wikileaks. A chance for your Bitcoin to shine.
Post by: Litt on June 29, 2011, 03:32:31 AM
Wikileaks posted this page up on their website today to bring more awareness to their ongoing payment processor problem. They have been under the scrutiny from the payment processors for 6 months now and I think bitcoin community can step up and answer the call and show support for Wikileaks. No matter what political background you are, I'm sure most can agree that more transparency in government activity in current times is for the benefit of everyone.

Wikileaks put themselves in the firing lane to be the eyes, ears, and voice of the common people and it's important that we show them that we appreciate and need their service now more than ever through our donations. I cannot think of a better place to donate your discretionary coins and it's great way to show that in truly FREE economy, money will go where they provide the services that people demand.


http://wikileaks.org/Banking-Blockade.html




Title: Re: Wikileaks. A chance for your Bitcoin to shine.
Post by: smellyBobby on June 29, 2011, 03:41:25 AM
Well I hope that "free marketeers" are right, and that the service that wikileaks provides will be largely funded by the bitcoin community.

I doubt this will happen. There is barely any funding going into bounties. This is what a decentralized tax should be used for.


Title: Re: Wikileaks. A chance for your Bitcoin to shine.
Post by: Anonymous on June 29, 2011, 03:53:14 AM
I always give them my left-over coins.


Title: Re: Wikileaks. A chance for your Bitcoin to shine.
Post by: smellyBobby on June 30, 2011, 01:55:02 AM
bump

PEOPLES SEND UR MONIES TO WIKILEAKS.

We must enlighten the world about the bad justice dragons. They must be punished!


Title: Re: Wikileaks. A chance for your Bitcoin to shine.
Post by: JA37 on June 30, 2011, 07:58:24 PM
I have some BTC-fractions in Swepool that will never increase since difficulty is to high for me now. I've asked them to send those to Wikileaks (or me if they don't want to send to WL). Let's hope they do that.
Doesn't matter to me if I get it or not, but I'll never get enough to justify a real payout. So WL is a good option.


Title: Re: Wikileaks. A chance for your Bitcoin to shine.
Post by: lemonginger on July 01, 2011, 03:38:37 AM
yes, as problematic as wikileaks has become (would really like a bunch of secure leaking services, preferably not just one that seems to be run by a megalomaniacal jerk (and possibly rapist) that wants their leakers to sign NDAs to ensure they have a monopoly on leaked info) they have already done a ton of good, and it is always depressing to me when I see how few bitcoins they have been donated (unless they are bringing in large btc donations on one-time use addresses)


Title: Re: Wikileaks. A chance for your Bitcoin to shine.
Post by: Reikoku on July 01, 2011, 01:37:25 PM
Sent them a donation.


Title: Re: Wikileaks. A chance for your Bitcoin to shine.
Post by: freespirit on July 01, 2011, 05:03:00 PM
Julian Assange is a radical leftist.
Although I like and approve what Wikileaks did so far, I wont finance them as they are obviously doing it for the wrong reasons and who knows what they'll do in the future.
Helping him with his legal fees is another matter as his prosecution is obviously political. But then again I have no sympathy for leftists, so I'll let other leftists pay his legal fees. :)


Title: Re: Wikileaks. A chance for your Bitcoin to shine.
Post by: hugolp on July 01, 2011, 05:06:57 PM
Julian Assange is a radical leftist.
Although I like and approve what Wikileaks did so far, I wont finance them as they are obviously doing it for the wrong reasons and who knows what they'll do in the future.

Julian Assange is quite free market oriented. He has called himself a libertarian, although he is not a "heavy libertarian", for what I got from his opinions.


Title: Re: Wikileaks. A chance for your Bitcoin to shine.
Post by: wumpus on July 01, 2011, 05:08:58 PM
Julian Assange is a radical leftist.
Huh, where did you get *that* from? He's a very strong believer in individualism, not collectivism, afaik.


Title: Re: Wikileaks. A chance for your Bitcoin to shine.
Post by: freespirit on July 01, 2011, 05:12:37 PM
Julian Assange is a radical leftist.
Although I like and approve what Wikileaks did so far, I wont finance them as they are obviously doing it for the wrong reasons and who knows what they'll do in the future.

Julian Assange is quite free market oriented. He has called himself a libertarian, although he is not a "heavy libertarian", for what I got from his opinions.
He says many things. Rather than listening to him research his deeds.
Leftists are liars.
Google "assange mungiki" for example. He is a typical extreme leftist.
Even those women who accuse him in his case are from a sort of leftist "get-together", what would such a libertarian as him be doing mixing with them? (as far as I remember he stayed at a place of one of them or both while in Sweden). "Tell me who your friends are and I'll tell you who you are".


Title: Re: Wikileaks. A chance for your Bitcoin to shine.
Post by: freespirit on July 01, 2011, 05:26:18 PM
Julian Assange is a radical leftist.
Huh, where did you get *that* from? He's a very strong believer in individualism, not collectivism, afaik.
So he says. In fact it appears as he is a strong believer in collectivism when HE IS IN CHARGE.
So most likely Wikileaks is not his means of fighting FOR freedom of information or whatever, but rather just his means of standing up AGAINST an establishment HE can not control.


Title: Re: Wikileaks. A chance for your Bitcoin to shine.
Post by: freespirit on July 01, 2011, 06:50:57 PM
Contemplate on this:
Why Assange (and other leftist so called "human rights activists" alike) go mostly after US, Israel etc. (relatively "open" and democratic entities) and make a lot of noise about rights of terrorists, cannibals etc.?
(I'm not saying no one should watch the US govt. etc. and I'm not taking sides here, but is the US govt. really the most vicious entity in the world? Does it really deserve to be the #1 concern for Wikileaks and other "rights activists"?)

I can give you some hints on their reasons:

1. It is relatively safe to go after US etc. than to go after terrorist/fundamentalist/etc. organizations. (going after the latter can easily get you killed, especially if you "work" in Middle East busy embezzling UN funds for example)
2. Middle eastern oil sheiks are probably more generous with grants than US gov. etc., so for example that explains why "activists" make a lot of noise when US or Israel screw up but keep mum when attacks on Israel happen and generally we do not hear much from those "activists" about killings and other crimes in Middle East done by locals.
3. It is also a lot easier to expose US etc. Assange could not get a secret database from Al Qaeda even if he found their own "Manning" as there are no such database. Being a relatively [much more] open structure, the US govt. documents everything, even their own screw ups. All you need to do to expose them is to get your hands on this documentation. With terrorists etc. it is MUCH more work.
4...

The so called "human rights organizations" people of this kind create and run are nothing more than totalitarian structures. They choose an agenda or a group to "protect", no matter what it is, as long as someone is willing to pay (give them grants) for this "activism".

Beware of "human rights" activists who care most about rights of only certain group(s) (especially if it is a side in a conflict). The "activism" around Israel-Palestine conflict is a good example.

P.S.: There are of course real human rights activists still, but this leftist phenomenon of "safe activism" or worse "activism for hire"/"activism as a business" is blooming lately.
Leftists are really about getting their hands on some cash flow (the more the better) and this is one way of doing it, probably one of the most profitable.

An example on the subject: Assange used to work for some foundation in Africa protecting a group called "Mungiki". This fine journalist, while working in this capacity, expressed his concern on infinite occasions on account of these people being "oppressed by the government". Somehow though he forgot to mention even once that those nice people of "Mungiki" were practicing racketeering, cannibalism and other interesting things.


Title: Re: Wikileaks. A chance for your Bitcoin to shine.
Post by: V4Vendettas on July 03, 2011, 03:04:44 PM
Donated my little bit. All add's up I guess. Right im outa here b4 more talk of cannibals that creaps me out a little.


Title: Re: Wikileaks. A chance for your Bitcoin to shine.
Post by: smellyBobby on July 04, 2011, 03:24:44 AM
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Julian Assange has generated a lot of interest in wikileaks.  Unfortunately his personal life has indirectly affected the cause of wikileaks. However, I think it is important to keep in perspective the events of Assange's personal life and the agenda wikileaks pursues. One's opinion of wikileaks should not be shaped by the events of Julian's personal life. However, I do think that Julian has misused the wikileaks platform to defend his personal situation. This behavior has attracted damning criticism from former Wikileaks spokesperson Daniel Domscheit-Berg. I recall Daniel comparing Julian's struggle with Bradley Manning's situation. Justifiably Daniel argues that Bradley is suffering significantly more than Julian, and the Wikileaks platform has been disproportionately used to highlight Julian's situation over Bradley's.

Nonetheless despite these inconsistencies Wikileaks provides an essential pathway for individuals to express the wrong-doings of an organization. As long as mainstream media serves vested interests, Wikileaks-like organizations are an integral part of the ongoing battle against global injustice.

Please consider contributing to the Wikileaks cause.  (http://www.wikileaks.org/support.html)


Title: Re: Wikileaks. A chance for your Bitcoin to shine.
Post by: TheGer on July 04, 2011, 07:23:38 AM
Assange is a sellout and a puppet.  You'll never see stuff leaked to really tell you the big picture about what's going on in the world.


Title: Re: Wikileaks. A chance for your Bitcoin to shine.
Post by: V4Vendettas on July 04, 2011, 07:29:58 AM
Assange is a sellout and a puppet.  You'll never see stuff leaked to really tell you the big picture about what's going on in the world.

Care to enlighten me? Did I miss somthing ?