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The 2x fork is over and not a drop of money has come in to altcoins, the market is dead.

Another one of this? make it original people!

yeah they're dead, as dead as a 100 billion market is

Much of that is in bitcoin forks. Its expanded in the amount of coins but no growth in any of them.

Make it 80 then, it's still a huge amount of money... a lot of these coins are growing steadily in price and acceptance; there are 90 coins +50 Millions... I'd not call that dead.

Pretty far down vs bitcoin for 4 months.

If 85% of all alt coins really die is only good for cryptocurrency market

They are dead for now yeah. But a lot of cheap coins are buyable now. The most had a full retrace and they are in a good buyrange!

https://coincube.io/indexes

And even so altcoins still win this year...

the truth is that as long as BTC bull run continues (and it will continue) and in the lack of truly breaking news or achievements, most alts will only have short-lived glories and rather bleed against BTC. period. that opens interesting opportunities for short-term trades, but if you want to stay on the safe side, the only thing to do for now is to cut losses and go long on BTC + smaller positions in a few major coins like ETH and LTC.

Why do you think so? It has already gone x8 in 2017.

If you have to ask, then you should probably consider them dead... for you. The rest of us will continue to take part in an ever expanding, ever evolving altcoin market.

I think a lot of people are getting caught up in BTC's crazy fast growth over the past few weeks. I don't believe this level of growth will remain constant, and it's very possible we'll see a correction that won't fully recover for some time. Meanwhile many altcoins remain strong and are still being developed further without highly controversial forks.

new big investors' money coming into the crytpo market is interested in BTC, not alts. you may or may not like it (i personally don't) but that's the reality for now... just enough to read the news :)

for 4 months now I had hope that we would see a recovery soon. Today is the first day Ive lost that hope and am starting to wonder if this trend will last for a very long time.

Pretty sure they all seem fine.

The money is directed to bitcoin. The value has increased massively. Everyone is made sure of good turnover from investing into bitcoin. Many still are looking for best altcoins to invest in. News on bitcoins growth has narrowed down the eyes of investors causing investing into bitcoin. But for sure the alcoins on top in the current market would still have it's space for growth as always.

People tend to forget about their alt coins after they dump them, they just look for the new investments with low cap and a good team. There is a lot of room there

Yes they were dead, if you buy now, they were really dead because most are at its ath and they are all the way down anymore  ;D

Who said money will flow into altcoins after hardfork? You should slap that guys face, clearly he has no idea.
Altcoins are in bear market since August, don't you notice that? Even if they cover USD value they are losing against BTC because of the BTC rally.

Not sure what you consider as "dead" ... My altcoin investments are doing quite well despite being slightly more stagnant on average than usual lately.

I certainly wouldn't call the altcoins I follow dead -- maybe they are just taking a short power nap.

Have patience.

I would say some of them are dead. Its alright always gonna be reales shit coins, but some of altcoins have big potential in future

The altcoin market will never die and this year has proved that! In 2014 I remember when loads of these alts were coming out and being mined, pumped and dumped. After that I thought alts were dead, but just look at 2017. Insane market movements in altcoins, taking huge total market cap away from Bitcoin! Even if alts appear like they are dead, trust me they are not, they will awake from their sleep once again!

Focus is on the Bitcoin bull run, and this is going to soak up investment. As the market continues to mature altcoins will continue to grow. The utility coins should start to come good next year and that will create a major shift in market sentiment.

It was the general consensus in almost every forum and article that the main driver in the recent bulltrend was to obtain free fork coins.

You can not generalize altcoins. For example ethereum is an altcoin. Do you think it is dead? Many icos use ethereum technology for their tokens.

Every single altcoin made 15x - 20x this year. Do you think they will grow non-stop? ;D
Don't expect anything big in the mid-term. Smart money came and got their profit. It won't happen again this year.

you can not be serious, dude :/  i do not think like you
I think it's a great time for altcoins

Not entirely agree with your statement. Alt coin is not dead, probably few of them are. Daily volume wasn't dead at all. There are still ongoing progress. Once the fork is done then alt coin will be back for business. Just my 2 cent as there are few serious coins that have my faith on them.

Altcoins haven't died.  The market is currently consolidating towards the top and the mass amount of coins being released seem to be spreading the higher risk speculative traders across a large portion of them.  You can see this because large caps have 6 coins making up 84% of the market and Mid caps have 15 coins making up 13% shows people are moving their investments into a smaller group of coins.  That leaves the small and micro caps coins that only make up less than 3% of the total market.

Yes, of course we can't say altcoins are dead. They dropped a lot during September but some are now very close to full recovery. Iota is $0.7, Neo is $37.. I guess altcoins are not doing as good as bitcoin is but they are still alive and their marketcap is huge. More and more of new projects appear, some of them have rather important ideas behind them. What's more, when the prices are low, it's great time for investors and altcoins. Eventually these huge price drops might turn out in great profit and we'll remember these times as ones when it was easy to get rich.

Some of them are dead for sure, some will recover.

But I agree, we have never seen such a long correction and bearish atmosphere. I'm pretty conviced all these non sense forks where they print money out of thin air made people loose faith in cryptocurrencies.

Hope the market wakes up again (August was awesome).

ah sure, the fork... what fork?

Incorrect. Dash and XMR got pumped to the moon but now we're seeing the dump. Just normal market activity here and nothing to worry about. Other altcoins are just resting and pretty much going sideways, this is a great signal to buy.

Altcoin markets are definitely not dead. It's just that bitcoin is attracting a lot more atetntion right now.

When BTC stops pumping like today, altcoins will go up.

I dont think you can declare it dead right away. Perhaps it is a bit of a bear market at the moment, perhaps people dont want to invest into alt coins given all the forks and blood baths that keep happening. I say let all the

markets calm down for a couple of weeks and then see where the direction is trending. You would literally think the market is bear one day and bull the next day if you went off one day sentiments, this isnt correct way to go

that's true, but this confirms that one should not trust forums cause they are full of clueless or self-interested people. BTC rally has been driven by mainstream attention and especially adoption in new financial circles. as mainstream and institutional investors come in, they go for what's known: BTC. there will be BTC major correction and trickle down effects eventually, but hard to predict when. until then, alts' trend against BTC will be mainly bearish.

The coins are much stronger now that the whole thing has cancelled. Bitcoin Cash received a pump not that long ago.

I don't see hard forks or soft forks as the vital things affecting the future of altcoins.

Altcoins need to stay alive with their roadmaps and products. Everything is not the bitcoin actions or market actions. They should achieve this first for a stable altcoin market.

Alts are anything but dead, they are doing great, bitcoin cash do not forget is an altcoin also and that hasn't been doing too badly of late, alts will have their day but they are definitely not dead that's for sure.

Ever heard the expression: "Buy low, sell high"? ;)

Altcoins has the time to Boom in the market. It is not definitely dead though price for altcoins is cheap but it will have the momentum to hit in the exchange.

Yes, compared to their highs in June of this year they are dead. But humand greed will pump em up again and after that they will be dead again. This is crypto cycle. =)

Yes most of them are dead and I think it is normal. It is obvious that most altcoins are bubble and they have collapsed. I have also have some altcoins but I don't trust them.  ;D

not all are dead, anyone of the traded ones could pump at any time

no altcoins arent dead and they are not bubble either , infact as you see most of them now are starting to recover again even if bitcoin is still rising. you know it is just normal for any coins (crypto or fiats) to increase or decrease because that is thier nature and also the demand and supply is one of the reason why they are always fluctuating.

They are the zombies group. LOL. They are so fond of spreading news regarding death. The altcoins are dead. Yeah, you are right, as dead as a 100 Billion market in US dollars. Dead as many times as Bitcoin. Dead as the $8,000 that Bitcoin has reached. The altcoins are as dead as that. Dead as Ethereum's $31 Billion market cap or Monero's 1.9 plus US dollar Billion market cap. Or Ripple's $8 plus Billion market cap.

Its true that the altcoin market has taken a rather large beating, but it's still relatively early days in the crypto world. Most the altcoins don;t even have a working product let alone much more than a marketing team. There's still plenty of room for growth in that market and we should see more money gradually enter.

Altcoin is not dead, probably people have taken profit for the year...expect altcoin party next year

with the recent bitcoin runs up and uptrends movements, I bet shitty and scammy altcoin coin will be dead and go to 1 satoshis, and only the good and strong altcoins will only remain on the market.

Why do not you think that you can buy cheap coin and sell it next year. Altcoin is slipping it's an opportunity for investors.

Altcoin is always this way pump and dump, but it will not dead. Yet, there are some altcoins that totally dead but some will kicking and alive. There is a time it is dump and a time to pump so yes the best to buy those worthy.

I concur with the statement that the majority of altcoins is dead,but we shouldn't claim that they are all dead, as this is unrealistic

I dont think that altcoin market is dead. There are some coin or token still exist.
I think more trustable the altcoin so more life is the market.
And happen because the price of bitcoin increase.

Dead? :D The last week obviously showed how money flows into alts - mostly slow but steady - that's what I call a great prospect for future growth.
Alts are just starting out.

If you check Coinmarketcap, you will see that today almost all alts  on 1st pages are GREEN. Total market cap is exceeding 238B.
Alts and tokens are the future from technology point of view. Bitcoin is for value.

Yes, this was the surprise for me. We all saw how alts rose in early 2017 with Bitcoin's first proper bull. But then every subsequent ATH and climb for Bitcoin has not been good news for alts at all. Until now. I was seriously thinking that I would see another wall of red when Bitcoin went back to 7k and beyond. But for some reason, all my alts are holding steady (still in some decline against BTC), not the horrible crash I was expecting. Can you imagine, even Dogecoin is beginning to move past $1.25. Always new learnings every day in crypto!

Thanks for sharing your view... I don't follow much the news so I'll take yours in this  ;)

Nah, i don't think they are dead at all, they are just hibernating. Someday they will rise again once bitcoin bull run slowed down. There are lot people expecting that bitcoin will break $10000 before the end of year. So i think most of people are waiting and not taking any risky buying altcoins during the bitcoin pump.

Just a usual period in crypto, we have all experienced periods like this in the past.  Pumps and dumps, altcoins will recover, dont worry.  This period makes them a very good investment, so if you want to make a ton of profit, you invest in alts now.

If Altcoins are dead then why are people still buying them, spending thousands of dollars for a single coin? Some maybe are dead because of how bitcoins price have increased so some who have invested in only Altcoins are questioning if they ever will profit from their investment.

cant judge like this it really depends on the project of coins
some projects are in progress and some of them getting abadoned
because something new is coming out

i dont really like this because there are really some true devs who put much effort in their projects
and just because of peeps who are saying there the dollars they are getting left behind and people put money
in quick get rich shitcoins. too bad thats an human effect money is more important than the real worth of a project.

Altcoins are not dead if you notice more of the signature campaign open for now are used tokens. Because most of the altcoins are increasing value even bitcoin it was happen due to in demand of these in the market.
I think bitcoin and altcoins are resting now in the market that's but it was not means that they are already die.

I keep seeing this kind of topic everytime bitcoin rally starts.
Altcoins are doing great, they were all pumped over months nearly all summer. Just a bit of correction was necessary. Now there will healthier prices.

It's the same thing over and over again.
2018 will be a great year for altcoins, with the interest and price gain for btc there will be more interest in altcoins as well.

I don't think that. Altcoins does not create a huge growth likes Bitcoin. But if you are good at trading, you also can earn much money fron altcoins.

I do not agree with you altcoins never die dude.
I think it's a good time for altcoins. look https://coinmarketcap.com/

In fact it seems that right now these are in good shape,there are some that are very much valued by the sound of it,by example,ETH,XMR,ADA.
   

Well i agree on you i believe that altcoin can never be dead because it is really a  big part of the crypto world maybe some other people think that altcoin is perishable but i dont really agree on them altcoin is really slowly getting more popular also in terms investing.I believe also in altcoin and maybe someday it can really surpass bitcoin .

Nope.. as long as may investors in the world of cryptocurrency
altcoins will not just fall.
As you can see in Eth . it almost reach 1k$
price .

Dont be ridiculous it takes more than that stop all the altcoins to be invested with. Investors come and go. ETH has good impact on all altcoins. So it might not be the right time for now.

Altcoins are not dead at all. In fact they are just beginning. More and more people are becoming aware of not only Bitcoin but altcoins as well. I think we can expect more growth in alts this year,

altcoin will not die, nor will it likely to happen. lots of altcoin in the market and of course a lot of people who invest in altcoin. then from it to altcoin dead earnest will not likely to occur.

Nope and never be. Some of altcoins in 2020 will be dead but not all espcially those on the top 20.

haha... look at the marketcap now. Over $700 billion. and you say it dies? lolz... do not waste your time to ask some questions like that. If you do not trust the crypto, you can not take part in. Otherwise, let research and trade.

They are much alive and continuously kicking and many of them had recent price surges like ethereum, litecoin, ripple, cardano, tron and many others. Many investors are looking for potential altcoins that will seen to perform well in the future. Some coins might die but majority of them will continue to be alive.

yup the bitcoin has fallen from 80% market cap to 40% this year certainly points to alt coins  demise  ::)

Altcoins that have real world application like ether, miota, ltc, ripple, golem etc will survive.

In my opinion if their system or and project good, i am sure altcoins will not stop and will not die.

Altcoins existence are to support Bitcoin. We can take an example Ethereum where using same blockchain technology as bitcoin and decentralised. Ethereum that runs ‘smart contracts’, which means it can facilitate the exchange of money, content, property, shares, or anything of value.
Another, Dash coins which has been popular since 2014 and been accepted on some merchant https://www.dash.org/merchants.
That's why altcoin's will not dead and will still live to supporting Bitcoin.

Alt are more alive then ever. But it will end soon. It is impossible such bullish market to continue

yeah me too. i didnt agree to op when he says altcoin are dead because as i can see majority of altcoins and tokens are now pumping and increasing. 2018 is indeed the best time to start for altcoins, not just altcoins but also in bitcoin because bitcoin is also recovering and now starting to hike again to reach its new all time high. although we may still prepare and not to be confident all because sooner or later they can still unexpected to drop due to some factors that may affect them.

Balance in the market will be destroy if the altcoins die in the crypto currency industry. Because as per my observation competition of digital currencies will vanish if that is happen.

In other words bitcoin and alternative coins circulation will remain as one and possible that bitcoin value will become more expensive in the market.

i suppose this thread was created as a joke, or creator of this thread spoke too soon, altcoins now are stronger than ever before

People are still support altcoin i do not think that altcoin is dead. The cryptocurrency enthusiast keep increasing day to day and make each market close their registration new member for while. This happen on popular exchange like Binance and Bitfinex.

there are a lot of altcoins growing very fast theese days...

XRP already reach 2nd in market cap, while XLM at top 10...

I'm now looking at BLUE, PKT, EDO, HAT, and also XVG to invest on more ~

Yes Altcoin are not dead and this is not the end of crypto currencies it increases everyday people like to invest in all crypto currencies so it has been good development for today's economic situation .

The thread is a bit old but I just wanted to highlight the current situation. The altcoins are booming now at the beginning of 2018. It is great time to join the game.

Altcoins are alive and kicking :) They will push the whole crypto scene/world way further I believe!

alts are more alive than ever, btc dominance is even lower than in may 2017 when alts were booming, this year will be huge for us, there will be the mass adoption, everyone is starting to know cryptos but for most btc is too expensive so they will go to als because of their low price attracted by easy gains. now it would be more realistic a 10x on a alt than 10x on btc or eth

I also agree that in this year 2018 the market of altcoyins will flourish. Altkoins in general were underestimated compared to bitcoin. The last sharp increase in the price of bitcoins to $ 20,000 last month showed that bitcoin is inflated as a bubble and, in view of its transaction problems, investors began to invest their funds not in bitcoin, but in altcoyins, and especially in ethereum.