Bitcoin Forum

Hi,

Basically instead of only waiting for big dips to buy and highs to sell, I am talking about selling at regular high and buy it when it dips $100 lower for example many times a day.

Say you have 10 BTC, this should give you $1000 minus the fees no? So doing it many times through the day you might add a new BTC to your wealth?

Is this reasonable or is there something I am missing?



Thanks in advance.

Yes, of course you could day trade. If you have the means to be a whale, then you can do that.

You are missing the unpredictability of the market. What if you buy and it suddenly drops? What if you sell and it keeps climbing?

People do this professionally. High risk, high reward.

it is so risky to invest with this big amount like this without and previous knowledge so recommended to save your money and invest with small prices

Its smart to trade if you can predict what is going to happen.  Its just like the stock market, buy low, sell high and you will be fine.  It doesn't really matter when you buy/sell as long as you follow those guidelines, just unsure of how you can guarantee anything like that.

This guy pretty much nailed it... but for the most part if you have decent charts to look at and you are paying attention to the trends that are going on with it you should be able to daytrade it fairly well... my biggest worry about that would be when i sleep. I guess this is why once you start trading crypto day to day it starts to consume you lol. you may buy it and miss the break out and then it dips big and you are down when you could have been way up. but as he said high risk high reward. Same as setting up your 401k and such. The more risk you are willing to take, the higher the reward will be. but also the flip side. the higher the risk the more poten

Yes you can day trade with this amount of bitcoin but it is still risky. Try to learn first by using 1 bitcoin, when you learn how to make a profit you can start using a higher amount of bitcoins to trade.

Thanks guys, I understand. It's not easy and anything can happen. My idea was based on there is many small ups and downs a day but not many huge ups and downs relatively.

Day trading can be viewed as very close to gambling when it comes to Expected Value (EV) and the fact that they both are zero sum games (someone has to lose in order for others to win). There are people who have an edge in trading by having access to yet unknown publicly information, or by having huge amounts of money to dictate the price. So, for a newbie day trading can easily have negative EV, meaning they will be losing more than they earn. It's also hard to apply traditional trading theory to Bitcoin, because it's very different from traditional assets, for which those theories were developed.

Based on the transaction fees, I suggest it's not really viable to day trade BTC. I'd rather buy and forget about bitcoin, and think of it as a long term investment.

For me, day trading is way more better than Holding. Crypto is very volatile, you can never know when the price falls down or up.

Day trading is the most difficult way to trade since you will need to watch your open positions very closely and make many trades for the day, now if you can make the money you are claiming in your post then day trading is without a doubt a good idea, but you must understand that those results are extraordinary and most people will never be able to get those results.

You can't be sure about the strenght of a starting trend... You don't have the information (if you do, you won't ask this), about what moves the price behind the scenes. Some news don't affect the price but some major things can move the price really much (e.g. if Amazon will ever implement bitcoin as a payment method, that would cause huge raise in price or the opposite, if US or EU ban bitcoin that will cause huge drop). You can only read the news, if you trade the news you just follow the market...

Buy in panic, sell in peace. keep abreast of the news and put a part in it, big risks, big gains or big losses.

it seems to me more sensible to walk not to the bitcoins, but to some altcoys. their growth in price may exceed the growth of bitcoin several times. better share risks and trade in several coins.

you should not be too hesitant to try trade when the price is unstable as it is today,
one thing you should look for do not panic when its price falls ...

You can't predict that the price is always increasing. It can dump for months after you buy.

If you go the route of altcoins, certainly doin't use large amounts because if you look at the trades that are going on, not many are really for much. However if you have large amounts you may be able to throw up buy walls that push the price higher. This is frowned upon and a bit of market manipulation but common to see happening in alts.

These words may be the real slogan for those who do not know really what to do with crypto - "buy in panic, sell in peace" . Great words!!!!! )))))) to my mind there are lots of risks in trading bitcoin and litecoins as well. You may not be sure that buying today you'll get the profit tomorrow, and the profit you got yesterday you won't loose the next day.... there is the point that should be remembered. And more over the price of Bitcoin talks for itself. Too high risk. Too high bets. So very important to have while trading - cold prudent intelligence, but a hot gambling heart.

Day trading is much more difficult than it looks. What you're saying sounds easy, but there's a good chance that you'll lose coins by attempting to constantly take profit. Hell, there's a good chance you'll lose both dollars and coins.

When I first started trading BTC and altcoins four years ago, I took one look at the chart and said to myself, "This shit is easy. Just sell the top and buy when it starts going up again." Emotions and greed got the best of me. I proceeded to buy the top of massive bull trap and panic dumped during the following days, instantly losing about half my money.

Fortunately, I've learned a lot since then. One of the most important lessons I've learned: Less is more. Trading higher time frames, making less trades and more holds, and holding for longer periods of time have made me much more profitable than when I was trying to catch every swing.

Also, the fact is that most traders lose money. I've seen it argued that the ratio of winning vs. losing traders follows a Pareto distribution (80/20), and that sounds about right to me. If you have a knack for probabilities, succeed in things like poker or sports betting, and you can control your emotions during drawdowns (losing money), you might be a successful trader.

Yes that was a smart idea. Day trade is risky but if you have strategy and knowledge of this, this strategy is profitable. If the bitcoin raises up to 5%-10%, just sell it. And if fall down again in a minute in -3% buy it again and wait then sell it in 5%-up. That was a risky strategy but profitable.

that's a very good way with your 10 BITCOIN capital you can get $ 1000 per transaction, and you can count how many times you make transactions in a day, then your wealth will increase every day if your transaction is always successful, I want to try to do your way.

You can embark on day trading of bitcoin only if you have the knowledge of reading the chart especially Japanese candlesticks and the ability to identify trending market, you can identify the beginning of a trend but might not know when it is going to end that is one of the risk involved.

It's only as smart as you are, just as it is with most other stuff.

It seems like you have a sound plan, and logic dictates if you do exactly that, you will be able to make money. If you have the time to watch for such dips and highs, why not? If you're not convinced it's going to work, then you can try it on a smaller scale first. Say, try it on 0.1 Bitcoin and try day trading for a week. You should be able to somewhat accurately gauge the level of success of your day trading without really breaking the bank. The way you phrased it makes it sound easy, and this way you'll be able to see exactly what kind of challenges you'll face. Good luck!

That's the risk in day trading. If it rises and continues to rise then you have to put more money in and keep up with the market. If you buy and it drops, then you have to wait. We have a ton of speculators in the BTC field now. Some will succeed and many will fail.

That's reasonable and many are doing day trade here but it's risky to do day trading, we can't win all the time in day trading. Sometimes you have to take a rest for awhile and take some dips just like the usual way of trading, buying and holding. Before you do it, you have to follow a plan that you will implement when you day trade. Mostly you don't ask for bigger profit there, 5% profit is good.

If you don't have a particularly big shock in the bitcoin market, you can do that, but if you get a sharp fall, you're likely to lose money.

And this is why I'm not a trader, there are simply too many people with privileged information about the market that as a small fish your chances of making any money are almost zero, just look at the manipulation in the price of bitcoin cash, some whales made some crazy money with that huge growth in price but many lost a lot of money since they invested thinking that price will remain there for longer than it did.

In my experience I would avoid day trading Bitcoin because you need to be a very knowledgeable expert otherwise you can lose a lot, I am talking about a lot of money or even all of your money because it seriously is a hard thing to succeed at.

essentially you are proposing being a bot. at this point, with the price like this btc will make this price transition (100 USD) many, many times per day, especially depending on what exchange you are looking at. you dont have enough time in the day to watch the chart this hard, and even if you used alarms, they would be going off so frequently that they really wouldnt be effectual.

do this with a bot. and be wary of the fact that bitcoin can easily advance 500 buck in a few hours. as well as dip in a fashion. and, and extended run in either direction will kill this strategy, unless folks are taking profit on the way up (you wont see the dips you are looking for ;) )

I agree, markets are used by predictions. That is why trading even exist. Without individual predictions, no one will start day trading. Technical analysis is used professionally. Don't do it if you doubt your own skiills.

It depends on the user. But for me i hold my balls. Im not rushing my coin to trade. There are exact time and day to use trading. Ill use trading if i need cash to use

It is better to trade a day to day, you only need to know everyday the currency value of bitcoin, because there are time that Bitcoin increase or grow and sometimes it drops down. There're lot of time of times and day that you need to trade, and it will be good to have this kind of trading.

Trading is probably the best possible way to make your coins. The unfortunate thing it still comes down to gambling, the only different thing is that you can probably get some sort of stats/insider information to make a better chance at having a  profit.

Many day traders lose a lot of money when they make a bad trade and that happens to coincide with a correction, instead of closing their position and accept a some losses they keep their position open thinking the market is going to turn around only to discover too late this was a correction and the effort they have put towards their trades is completely erased by doing that one bad trade.