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Title: BFL SC Singles running smoothly. ~59 GH/s each at 278 watts each
Post by: twmz on June 25, 2013, 05:29:39 PM


Although it took 1 year to get them, I am happy to have them in my hands and mining...

https://i.imgur.com/7XA3Xe9.jpg

The "fast" worker includes a 5.5 GH/s jalapeno as well:
https://i.imgur.com/djzI0sT.png

Power usage: 440 watts on that circuit before plugging in the two singles, 996 watts after = 556 watts for the pair = 278 watts each on average:
https://i.imgur.com/1byQC2D.jpg


Title: Re: BFL SC Singles running smoothly. ~59 GH/s each at 278 watts each
Post by: San1ty on June 25, 2013, 05:43:56 PM
Great! :)

Title: Re: BFL SC Singles running smoothly. ~59 GH/s each at 278 watts each
Post by: goxed on June 25, 2013, 06:17:25 PM
coool

Title: Re: BFL SC Singles running smoothly. ~59 GH/s each at 278 watts each
Post by: Xian01 on June 25, 2013, 06:34:28 PM
Nice to start seeing more of these in the wild.

Title: Re: BFL SC Singles running smoothly. ~59 GH/s each at 278 watts each
Post by: navigator on June 25, 2013, 07:15:06 PM
I see you had some first day orders. They need to get through 11 more order days til they get to mine. I'm a little jelly :)


Title: Re: BFL SC Singles running smoothly. ~59 GH/s each at 278 watts each
Post by: cdog on June 25, 2013, 11:40:46 PM
Cool. Congrats. I wonder how many total Singles have shipped, and what BFL's per day output is at this point?

Title: Re: BFL SC Singles running smoothly. ~59 GH/s each at 278 watts each
Post by: davecoin on June 26, 2013, 12:04:46 AM
What a happy little mining family you have there  ;D

Title: Re: BFL SC Singles running smoothly. ~59 GH/s each at 278 watts each
Post by: erk on June 26, 2013, 12:08:50 AM
278watts per unit is good for that hash rate, considering that some of it will be the PSU and several fans.


Title: Re: BFL SC Singles running smoothly. ~59 GH/s each at 278 watts each
Post by: farproc on June 26, 2013, 12:38:05 AM
Great efficiency!! :D

Title: Re: BFL SC Singles running smoothly. ~59 GH/s each at 278 watts each
Post by: hl5460 on June 26, 2013, 12:51:19 AM
4.71w/G. So the chips are made of 110nm?

Title: Re: BFL SC Singles running smoothly. ~59 GH/s each at 278 watts each
Post by: erk on June 26, 2013, 01:31:42 AM
Quote from: hl5460 on June 26, 2013, 12:51:19 AM
4.71w/G. So the chips are made of 110nm?
4.71W/GH/s is not what the chips consume. Think about the error in your calculation.


For starters a 110nm Avalon at 66GH/s consumes over 600watts, the BFL is less than half that.



Title: Re: BFL SC Singles running smoothly. ~59 GH/s each at 278 watts each
Post by: twmz on June 26, 2013, 01:35:05 AM
Quote from: erk on June 26, 2013, 01:31:42 AM
Quote from: hl5460 on June 26, 2013, 12:51:19 AM
4.71w/G. So the chips are made of 110nm?
4.71W/GH/s is not what the chips consume. Think about the error in your calculation.


For starters a 110nm Avalon at 66GH/s consumes over 600watts, the BFL is less than half that.




My power numbers are taken from the wall and so do include the inefficiencies/overhead of the ATX power supply.  I also think I added one additional table fan when I hooked these up, to the power draw from that fan may also be included in these numbers.  When I get back home this weekend, I'll take some more careful measurements to isolate the power usage of just the SC Singles + power supply (which includes their chips, their mainboard, their fans, the ATX power supply, and the power supply's fan).

Title: Re: BFL SC Singles running smoothly. ~59 GH/s each at 278 watts each
Post by: johnyj on June 26, 2013, 02:09:53 AM
Did you get power brick or just use ATX PCI-E power connector?

Title: Re: BFL SC Singles running smoothly. ~59 GH/s each at 278 watts each
Post by: twmz on June 26, 2013, 02:12:45 AM
Quote from: johnyj on June 26, 2013, 02:09:53 AM
Did you get power brick or just use ATX PCI-E power connector?

ATX power connectors are the only option at this point.  BFL does not have the power bricks yet, and so if you want a power brick, you have to volunteer to have your shipment delayed (which would be stupid).  I happened to have a good ATX power supply left over from my GPU mining rig (which has now been retired), so it wasn't a problem for me.  My guess is that my ATX power supply is more efficient than the power brick that they will eventually have anyway (and it is UL tested and certified).

Title: Re: BFL SC Singles running smoothly. ~59 GH/s each at 278 watts each
Post by: polrpaul on June 28, 2013, 10:53:44 PM
Quote from: twmz on June 25, 2013, 05:29:39 PM

The "fast" worker includes a 5.5 GH/s jalapeno as well:
https://i.imgur.com/djzI0sT.png

Power usage: 440 watts on that circuit before plugging in the two singles, 996 watts after = 556 watts for the pair = 278 watts each on average:
https://i.imgur.com/1byQC2D.jpg



From what mining platform or monitoring tool are you pulling these images?
I assume the top one is a pool? But the bottom one? TIA

Title: Re: BFL SC Singles running smoothly. ~59 GH/s each at 278 watts each
Post by: twmz on June 28, 2013, 11:31:44 PM
Quote from: polrpaul on June 28, 2013, 10:53:44 PM
From what mining platform or monitoring tool are you pulling these images?
I assume the top one is a pool? But the bottom one? TIA

The top one is btcguild.  The bottom one is not a mining thing.  I have do-it-your-self internet-enabled power/energy monitoring (http://www.ewal.net/2012/09/15/connecting-currentcost-plotwatt-and-cosm/) in my home and this is one of the dashboards for that data.

Title: Re: BFL SC Singles running smoothly. ~59 GH/s each at 278 watts each
Post by: polrpaul on June 28, 2013, 11:54:56 PM
Quote from: twmz on June 28, 2013, 11:31:44 PM
Quote from: polrpaul on June 28, 2013, 10:53:44 PM
From what mining platform or monitoring tool are you pulling these images?
I assume the top one is a pool? But the bottom one? TIA

The top one is btcguild.  The bottom one is not a mining thing.  I have do-it-your-self internet-enabled power/energy monitoring (http://www.ewal.net/2012/09/15/connecting-currentcost-plotwatt-and-cosm/) in my home and this is one of the dashboards for that data.

Major thumbs up!!

Title: Re: BFL SC Singles running smoothly. ~59 GH/s each at 278 watts each
Post by: shmadz on June 29, 2013, 12:13:26 AM
thank you for this TWMZ. I have been searching for some real power numbers for the singles.

now to extrapolate to a little single (if these ever get shipped) I would assume little more than half, probably 150W each is a generous estimate.

I'm guessing you run each single from a dedicated PCIe cable. What are the connectors like on the ASIC end? is it 2*6 pin connectors? or 1*8 and 1*6 -- or 2*8?

Do you expect one would be able to run 2 little singles from one PCIe cable?

Title: Re: BFL SC Singles running smoothly. ~59 GH/s each at 278 watts each
Post by: twmz on June 29, 2013, 12:28:31 AM
Quote from: shmadz on June 29, 2013, 12:13:26 AM
thank you for this TWMZ. I have been searching for some real power numbers for the singles.

now to extrapolate to a little single (if these ever get shipped) I would assume little more than half, probably 150W each is a generous estimate.

I'm guessing you run each single from a dedicated PCIe cable. What are the connectors like on the ASIC end? is it 2*6 pin connectors? or 1*8 and 1*6 -- or 2*8?

Do you expect one would be able to run 2 little singles from one PCIe cable?

Each single has a two 6 pin PCIe sockets.  So I have 4 cables coming out of my PSU.  Two cables go to each single.  The particular PSU I have is modular, so I get to choose exactly what cables I want coming out of it.  In other words, I don't have a mess of HDD cables or other unused power cables, etc.

I have no information at all on the little singles.  They are half as fast roughly, so you'd think they would use half the power requirements and therefore might have half the connectors, but again, that is entirely conjecture.

Title: Re: BFL SC Singles running smoothly. ~59 GH/s each at 278 watts each
Post by: Cablez on June 29, 2013, 01:15:57 AM
You better mine the s**t out of them. Look what's coming: http://scienceblog.com/64278/large-scale-quantum-chip-validated/

Title: Re: BFL SC Singles running smoothly. ~59 GH/s each at 278 watts each
Post by: twmz on June 29, 2013, 08:55:44 AM
Quote from: af_newbie on June 29, 2013, 02:10:01 AM
So they have 16 chips each?  Can you run GetInfo to see how many engines are running on each chip?
~15W per chip+35W for the board, I guess.

SC Single #1:

Code:
DEVICE: BitFORCE SC
FIRMWARE: 1.2.5
IAR Executed: NO
CHIP PARALLELIZATION: YES @ 16
QUEUE DEPTH:40
PROCESSOR 0: 14 engines @ 272 MHz -- MAP: FFBE
PROCESSOR 1: 13 engines @ 269 MHz -- MAP: F7BE
PROCESSOR 2: 14 engines @ 267 MHz -- MAP: FFF6
PROCESSOR 3: 15 engines @ 248 MHz -- MAP: FFFE
PROCESSOR 4: 13 engines @ 280 MHz -- MAP: FFEA
PROCESSOR 5: 11 engines @ 283 MHz -- MAP: F57C
PROCESSOR 6: 14 engines @ 250 MHz -- MAP: FFBE
PROCESSOR 7: 15 engines @ 260 MHz -- MAP: FFFE
PROCESSOR 8: 14 engines @ 258 MHz -- MAP: FFFC
PROCESSOR 9: 15 engines @ 255 MHz -- MAP: FFFE
PROCESSOR 10: 15 engines @ 269 MHz -- MAP: FFFE
PROCESSOR 11: 15 engines @ 255 MHz -- MAP: FFFE
PROCESSOR 12: 15 engines @ 258 MHz -- MAP: FFFE
PROCESSOR 13: 15 engines @ 252 MHz -- MAP: FFFE
PROCESSOR 14: 14 engines @ 277 MHz -- MAP: FDFE
PROCESSOR 15: 15 engines @ 249 MHz -- MAP: FFFE
THEORETICAL MAX: 59476 MH/s
ENGINES: 227
FREQUENCY: 274 MHz
XLINK MODE: MASTER
CRITICAL TEMPERATURE: 0
XLINK PRESENT: YES
DEVICES IN CHAIN: 1
CHAIN PRESENCE MASK: 00000001

SC Single #2:

Code:
DEVICE: BitFORCE SC
FIRMWARE: 1.2.5
IAR Executed: NO
CHIP PARALLELIZATION: YES @ 16
QUEUE DEPTH:40
PROCESSOR 0: 15 engines @ 267 MHz -- MAP: FFFE
PROCESSOR 1: 14 engines @ 267 MHz -- MAP: FEFE
PROCESSOR 2: 15 engines @ 273 MHz -- MAP: FFFE
PROCESSOR 3: 15 engines @ 253 MHz -- MAP: FFFE
PROCESSOR 4: 15 engines @ 243 MHz -- MAP: FFFE
PROCESSOR 5: 14 engines @ 246 MHz -- MAP: FBFE
PROCESSOR 6: 15 engines @ 267 MHz -- MAP: FFFE
PROCESSOR 7: 15 engines @ 250 MHz -- MAP: FFFE
PROCESSOR 8: 14 engines @ 265 MHz -- MAP: FFF6
PROCESSOR 9: 15 engines @ 255 MHz -- MAP: FFFE
PROCESSOR 10: 14 engines @ 234 MHz -- MAP: EFFE
PROCESSOR 11: 15 engines @ 260 MHz -- MAP: FFFE
PROCESSOR 12: 14 engines @ 265 MHz -- MAP: FFFC
PROCESSOR 13: 15 engines @ 262 MHz -- MAP: FFFE
PROCESSOR 14: 15 engines @ 257 MHz -- MAP: FFFE
PROCESSOR 15: 15 engines @ 255 MHz -- MAP: FFFE
THEORETICAL MAX: 60508 MH/s
ENGINES: 235
FREQUENCY: 274 MHz
XLINK MODE: MASTER
CRITICAL TEMPERATURE: 0
XLINK PRESENT: YES
DEVICES IN CHAIN: 1
CHAIN PRESENCE MASK: 00000001

Title: Re: BFL SC Singles running smoothly. ~59 GH/s each at 278 watts each
Post by: titomane on June 29, 2013, 09:55:49 AM
Good luck miner

Title: Re: BFL SC Singles running smoothly. ~59 GH/s each at 278 watts each
Post by: ice_chill on June 29, 2013, 12:41:53 PM
What order number are these SC Singles from ?

Title: Re: BFL SC Singles running smoothly. ~59 GH/s each at 278 watts each
Post by: polarhei on June 29, 2013, 03:00:25 PM
Quote from: Cablez on June 29, 2013, 01:15:57 AM
You better mine the s**t out of them. Look what's coming: http://scienceblog.com/64278/large-scale-quantum-chip-validated/

Quantum based, currently it does not fit the current style as the operational cost is too high because of Liquified gas needed while the current only need normal air to run. I notice that. The being is still not in practical use.

Additionally, although the lab has solved some questions on human resources, Your being runs smoothly? I don't think so as early bird catches the worm. There are only two companies provide ASIC solution just in time while BFL is not.


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