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The plan has changed. We will all join fontas' pump:
https://forum.litecoin.net/index.php/topic,4698.0.html

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Hmmm, do a small pump to $3 today.

These pumps never work when there announced like this. They only work if a small group with lots of money do it in secret randomly.

>implying a few thousand USD will pump LTC

You, sir, have no idea what you're doing. Be prepared to lose big.

+1

With a few thousand, you can buy up all the sell orders up till 2.7 on BTC-e.

Good luck pumping it.

I'll be ready to dump when you pump it.  :)

I never said 'a few thousand', I was talking about 'several thousand'. In fact it's worth more than USD 20K. Sad to hear but Dacm4n seems to be right. Too many people without a brain in here. That way the public network effect isn't going to work and there may will be a fight between pumpers and dumpers. I'll wait for further replies but seems we have to do it secretly once again.

I'm in with 120 BTC.
PM date / time :)

Do it in secret, people will dump for profit and to ruin your investment when they know you are pumping.

Well, this looks like a massive pile of fail.

Nice, ready to buy when price crash.

sounds interesting

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HtyF0jux2Q

Woohoo!

You'll need an order of magnitude more than 20k USD to reasonably affect the LTC price.

Good luck with your efforts but you're pissing into a hurricane with that amount of cash.

I have my own plans for the LTC price.

Own plans, realy? Hahaha

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Love(d) the 2000's, todays music makes me sad.

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Woot!

Fontas is here.

LTC price to hit $50 by tomorrow.  ::)

Obligatory "CHIKUN ARISE" comment.

I find it hillarious how you "think" you can control LTC price  lol...  We'll show you whats up.


 OP, im in with 1,700 BTC  PM me with details.

Fontas is correct at least. $20k USD? There is a $20k USD buy wall at 2.64 right now alone. The other day there was an $800,000 sell wall.

There are some big players on there that indeed do get to decide where a coin will go.

Do you really think I'm not aware of that? That's why we try to do it publicly. We already got some people with huge amounts being interested. If we can put together several millions that way the dumpers need to be ready to hold against it.

I still don't get what you guys see in your messiah Fontas. What has he done to prove his net worth, other than post some bullshit graphs on here claiming some peaks were 'his pumps'?

Stop trolling.
They can definently do it. I'd help but tight budget at the moment.

Hey can I join the Epix Anonymous Lejun pump group? With your 20 k usd and my 20 k usd combined we can push the price by 15 cents. This will be the pump of the century, never forget never forgive.

Not to brag but I am from the 6th anonymous legion myself, on 25th january 2013 our legion managed to slow down the official Polonian Wiener Society website by whole 3 seconds. Justice has been served that day.

you said it... we listen...

Nice, but the price is going down so far..........you mean pump or dump?  ???

 ;D

Actually I think were looking at a $500,000 + pump  :)

500.000 is not enough, you need not less than a couple of million guys. Anyway you don't risk too much since the price will be over 5$ in a couple of weeks.

You just have to be sure that ALL of you will respect the agreement...may happen that someone starts it and gets off at let's say 3.5  ;D

$800,000 was enough to seriously F*^K the price a handful of days ago. And the Ba$%*rd only lost like 16K of it before LTC jumped up a whole 20%. Yes there were likely other players involved. But let's face it, this is the nature of the game. As soon as you think you know what's happening someone else rolls along with 350,000 LTC to screw it all up again.

Fontas is here!  8)

Just to bring some light in here. Currently are about $700k waiting in total. We will not take any actions before we have at least $5m together. We will also hand out bots that are doing the pump (for those who are lazy or slow).

80% people in this posts are IDIOTS
guy is joking with you, do you REALY BELIVE THAT THIS KIND OF THING IS DOING PUBLIC?
I cannot beleve how many sheeps are here

ok sheeps now sing beee beeeeeeee beeeeee  = STUPED PEOPLE!

Take care people, he's a hacker, and wanting to get your info...

just remember that the bigger the pump the bigger the dump.  Its classic free markets.  Boom and bust cycles.  If you try to pump it too far too fast you could damage the long term price stability of the coin.

Tell that Mt.Gox..

I had cancel all my selling ltc , waiting the good news ltc on mtgox

::)

Lol, I love these threads.. who are we going to sell too or who is going to sell to us if we all team together to buy?

This logic will never stop to shock me.

radar break .o3 and we fly to the moon...thanks

I put $20k in LTC in the past week.  Probably going to put another $10-20k more in, in the next week or so.  In my opinion, it's about as sure of a thing as it gets in the cryptocurrency world that LTC is going to spike massively once its added at gox. 

or, "[ANN] Public Awareness for Screwing You Over By Artificially Raising the Price Beyond Its Genuine Value and Pulling the Rug Out From Under You Event"

This is a part of trading, but at least have the "dignity" to keep it to yourself.

don't trip everyone knows that LTC is the number 1 coin being mined behind BTC,,thanks

Thanks for letting me know when to dump  ;D

If or when Gox adds LTC support, how much notice do you think they'll give traders?  I'm sorta thinking 48 hours.  Any guesses?

how did the pump go?  I can't tell from the LTC price on Btc-e

Anyone with decent amount of money can make a pump. And benefit from it and from its announcement. Why do you suppose the guy that proposed this is a hacker?

I am also ready with 1000$

pumping or not, for sure i know LTC have to be placed in mtgox to keep a check on BTC with all the BFL ASIC incomming. If btc diff rocketed 1000% in short time (which is likely  with ASIC) while price remain the same, it will be ugly.

Because of what he removed from the original post:

Btc-e down?

Yes, it is for me.

Will be up in no time, I am sure.

Yeah, there's an announcement on the page saying they're attempting maintenance on the server to get it back up.

They got hacked and all the big wallets emptied who shared their btc-e username and balance here earlier? :o

oh that would be rich!

World's most successful pump right here, people! Witness it for only $1000 in price drop costs!

Troll alert once again? Don't be silly. I hope I don't have to explain why your concern is way out of anything real. Looks like they got DDoSed (once again), but it's just a guess: We don't know why btc-e is down for maintenance either right now. Don't panic guys. I think they will be up again very soon or at least letting us know what's going on (by twitter or this board here) sooner or later.

anyone with a Vendetta mask avatar is clearly a hacker and up to no good.  ;)

As you can see I'm not responding to every stupid post. Even with your ';)', your comment is very inappropriate. You are not the first person in this thread who is calling me a 'hacker'. I'm not here to educate people but sometimes it seems to be necessary to bring some light in here.

You guys apparently have no idea what a hacker is. Do your research. People like RSM, Appelbaum and Satoshy are hackers and so am I :). Nothing wrong with being a hacker. What you mean is called a cracker. DDoS against others to do any harm can be associated with 'crackers' but related to 'anonymous' it's much more a simple form of any online protest and mostly against authorities driving the NWO agenda 21 further on. These DDoS attacks against any crypto currency service (especially exchanges) are much more likely initiated by 'big brother' themselves.

So give me at lest one plausible reason why I should be involved in this.

Btw: If you would know me you would know that I'm a bitcoin and litecoin enthusiast and don't have any intention in hurting them (short- and long-term). The reason for the pump we are trying to initiate is just to have a higher ltc prize as soon as Mt.Gox is starting with their tradings. Mt.Gox will drive the prize up to $10 or even more anyway what likely leads into a huge dump by some 'early' adopters. New adopters will be scared away 'again' like it was the case on bitcoins prize correction after the hype caused by mainstream media and Mt.Goxes rush issues. I would like to see a stabilized ltc prize higher than $10 but that seems to be very unlikely in the short-term anyway and possible in the long-term only.

::)

Wow trollbox is spilling over into the forum?  ::)

Weav you log in with an email address now, not username.

Msweb btce have posted in the services subform saying it's a problem with the network/datacenter/something of that nature.

+1

might want to re-calibrate your sarcasm detector hacker.

It's not as unrealistic as you seem to imply. Although I wasn't being entirely serious, assume the attacker got a db dump with single iteration password hashes. Knowing the valuable accounts they can prioritize their hash cracking efforts and it doesn't take much math to realize a decent mining rig cuts through, say, single iteration salted SHA256 password hashes of mediocre complexity passwords, which most sites and users are still using if anything, like a hot knife through butter.

Care to clarify why you were initially asking for the "btc-e username" (@mr_random doesn't matter whether this string is also an email address or not) and later removed that part, quoted below? This information is unnecessary for a pump.

FYI: Btc-e is back up again.

I would be laughing so hard if that's what actually happened.  :D

I'm not saying the above is what happened and btc-e being back up is an essential requirement in the hypothetical strategy of the attacker: obviously they would want to login after cracking the credentials.

Also the attacker would possibly have been able to dump the entire db, containing all the account balances anyway, but your undifferentiated dismissing the scenario as "way out of anything real" seems curiously inadequate to dissipate doubt.

So why were you asking for the btc-e username and further putting emphasis on the "BTC and/or USD already sitting in your btc-e account" particularly as there is no specific date target set yet but you explicitly asked to agree on a future date preferred by participants?

It was because of reaching people by pm on btc-e instead of just in here. Read the entire original post quoted within the second post I believe. Some people claim within the trollbox to have lost some coins but I have no idea if they are just trolling or it's true and the dev team have to fully repair their db first. You'll see that there are no coins getting stolen at all.

Your described way of the hack doesn't make any sense. If someone is able to get a dumb from the db the chance they get the funds data too is very high. And even without that info: Wouldn't it make more sense to scan each account slowly over time instead of publicly asking for the data in here using an account with at least some reputation? What kind of pirate would do that?

You would need at least some reputation to even get started wouldn't you? Also the chance being high doesn't equal the chance being 100%. It is entirely possible that an attacker was only able to dump the authentication table with the password hashes, and they would likely proceed in the way described. They wouldn't have time to scan slowly because btc-e would probably notice soon and then inform users to change their passwords.

As I said I'm not saying the above scenario happened, and frankly I don't believe it happened, still you didn't seem to even try to dispel the expressed doubts and simply dismissing the possibility as "way out of anything real" and "doesn't make any sense" seems rather dubious.

Quite ironic that people are now reporting missing coins though..

pump it all upppppp....

to the roooffffff $266 all time... :D

Sorry for the intense denial. There is a small chance, right. I'm just sick of all the 'uh, something really bad is happening' stuff in here. The devs have already mentioned that they had some power issue within their data center which is very unlikely caused by any attackers especially not data pirates. I'm not here to argue with anyone in here. So, please let's get back to the topic.

I'm sorry OP, as much as you want LTC to go up so you can be rich. Making such thread for such purpose will not get your anywhere.

Alright, let's not get too stuck in hypothetical scenarios ;D Good luck with the pump. I don't have enough coins to participate but maybe I should start an "LTC dump" thread in the Bitcoin subforum first to get onboard ;)

Please explain why this will not get me anywhere.

I second this. Very much!

The result can either be:
you put money in to buy LTC, someone else get money out to sell

or

someone else put money in to buy LTC, you get money out to sell

Nothing new, I can only say good luck to everyone.

People have been organising public pump and dumps for as long as I can remember via signup newsletters and newsgroups etc.

I'll just leave this here, it might entertain a few people more than anything.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDpPlrHgquM


Look and sound familiar ?

I've got my popcorn ready, Good luck everyone.



p.s best part is 3.34

So is this happening by the weekend? I can join in by 50 BTC.

Something says in me you got thousands of LTC you wanna dump OP...

Funny when you first announce that you intend to pump LTC, normally such people would announce after and not before

100 BTC here what do i have to do?

I'm thinking something like this probably isn't very healthy for LTC :-/
Thoughts?

It is not.  Publicly addressing this kind of intention makes me think about what the hidden intentions are.  Not just of the OP but others reading this who would consider selling into the pump to offload a lot of LTC that they think they can get back at a lower price after the pump is over. 

I could see the OP buying in ahead of the pump in order to sell into the pump.  The result...  many people that are holding LTC for a loss.  Either they will be sellers immediately and take the loss or sellers when the price breaks even on them.  Either way it creates a negatively in the tradeable asset.

I've spend over a decade trading forex and I started in penny stocks in the late 90s.  I know the anatomy of a pump and dump I know that the public posting are not what is really happening behind the scenes.  I recommend everyone be very careful with this.

this shit only works if no one else knows about it...so... fail.

on btc-e.... ;D

Any kind of attempted market manipulation is not good for a crypto currencies reputation.

This kind of activity would actually be highly illegal in a regulated market and you would serve jail time. it's like that for a reason (leads to big market crashes, instability and of course unwitting people get burned).

Such market manipulations are 'illegal' because 'normal' people can make a lot of money with em. Laws are made by the powers that be to make sure they don't loose their position. Ask yourself why only the elite can make big money on wall street with similar actions and don't get jailed. As long as this is the case I have to say: Fuck the elite and fuck the law.

The plan has changed. We will all join fontas' pump:
https://forum.litecoin.net/index.php/topic,4698.0.html

lol... this kind of bullshit is what gives the crypto scene a bad name.

This only works when a small group of people (with lots of coins) do it privately and secretly..

Anyone who follows this "pump" will lose big, don't do it, invest a safe amount (you can afford to lose) in ltc, don't expect too much, sell early enough (before fontas dumps big time)...

This is the free market in action. Free market has no laws, so people f#ck other people, so that people make laws, so that we dont get a free market. Its funny and sad.

"This" referring to a pump and dump disguised as a stable pump scam? Because if not, if fontas plans to proceed as described then clearly it will work whether nobody knows or everybody, he simply has the means to buy up all the sell orders, simple as that.

there is a difference between "rule of law" and the veil of "rule of law".  If you can't see the difference then you are clueless.

you're still young and naive,  you'll learn in time.

another pump please  ;D