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Title: [Group Buy]1 KNCMiner Jupiter & Saturn Preorder 1-500 (1BTC=5.71 Gh/s) || 1 Sold
Post by: pizza on June 25, 2013, 10:40:09 PM
http://i39.tinypic.com/70dn4p.jpg

What are you investing in?

A group buy and shares of KNCMiner Jupiter & only shares of Saturn (Preorder 1-500)

https://www.kncminer.com/products/jupiter

    1 BTC = 1 Share (at current BTC/USD rates ~$100)
    1 Share = 5.71Gh/s
    70 Shares total

https://www.kncminer.com/products/saturn

   0.5 BTC = 1 Share (at current BTC/USD rates ~$50)
   1 Share = 2.56Gh/s
   78 Shares total

Payment Address:
1PXhiniK4UXg3JK4rCHwrKrJziy9VoLrUy
https://blockchain.info/qr?data=1PXhiniK4UXg3JK4rCHwrKrJziy9VoLrUy&size=200

Send payment to the above address and post here for confirmations!

* PM me/and post the transaction ID (txid) in this thread. **ONLY use sending addresses you fully control.** I will use the sending address for BTC payouts for your share ownership!

Dividends
Payouts will take place bi-weekly. I will send you your profits every 2 weeks to your designated address.

The fee will be 2% of your profit + (expenses include but are not limited to, electricity, repairs, shipping, taxes etc.)

If successful I will carry out another group buy of KnC miner
http://oi44.tinypic.com/33m53t2.jpg


Title: Re: [Open][Group Buy] 1 KNCMiner Jupiter & Saturn Preorder 1-500 (1BTC=5 Gh/s)
Post by: pizza on June 26, 2013, 12:04:40 AM
Share overview
Code:
Jupiter (1-500) Shares

Username             # shares   Transaction confirmed
DanyAC                2         Reserved
zurg                  2         ee8904d5c93829995be0d0449bb01576bb09788a48fb3315d9d93564321cb77c (Pending 1)
                          

Saturn has already been paid for by OP (78 Shares available):
http://oi43.tinypic.com/i3aqsk.jpg

Jupiter 1-500 position confirmation
http://oi40.tinypic.com/nyv0l.jpg


Title: Re: [Open][Group Buy] 1 KNCMiner Jupiter & Saturn Preorder 1-500 (1BTC=5 Gh/s)
Post by: matt4054 on June 26, 2013, 12:29:21 AM
I'm interested by your offer, however, could you clarify this:

You have already bought a 1-500 Saturn, and you will buy a (non-1-500) Jupiter with the GB shares, right?

If I buy a share now (5 GH/s), how will the payout be distributed once you receive the Saturn, but still wait for the Jupiter? You mention 70 shares (Jupiter) + 78 shares (Saturn), how will you distribute shares among shareholders, i.e. Saturn first, then Jupiter? Or will you make 148 even shares and pro rate payouts evenly?

Thanks for your reply


Title: Re: [Open][Group Buy] 1 KNCMiner Jupiter & Saturn Preorder 1-500 (1BTC=5 Gh/s)
Post by: szmarco on June 26, 2013, 12:35:51 AM
NO escrow?
and if you paid.the pic should like this below.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=238336.msg2523131#msg2523131


Title: Re: [Open][Group Buy] 1 KNCMiner Jupiter & Saturn Preorder 1-500 (1BTC=5 Gh/s)
Post by: matt4054 on June 26, 2013, 12:37:58 AM
NO escrow?
and if you paid.the pic should like this below.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=238336.msg2523131#msg2523131

This is the BitPay option, maybe he paid with another option.
Would be interested in OP's answer about escrow too, or reputation thread.

PS: I won't advertise of course but you know there are other GBs open for KnC


Title: Re: [Open][Group Buy] 1 KNCMiner Jupiter & Saturn Preorder 1-500 (1BTC=5 Gh/s)
Post by: Voodah on June 26, 2013, 12:49:03 AM
I don't really get it.

Could you please clarify?

Are both the Jupiter and Saturn already paid for?
Which order id each?

What/which will I buy for 1btc?


Title: Re: [Open][Group Buy] 1 KNCMiner Jupiter & Saturn Preorder 1-500 (1BTC=5 Gh/s)
Post by: skitchen on June 26, 2013, 01:05:56 AM
I'd also be interested in knowing what the plan is with mining once the hardware arrives and also weather or not we could view current statistics regarding the hardware (API support). Is there a plan..?


Title: Re: [Open][Group Buy] 1 KNCMiner Jupiter & Saturn Preorder 1-500 (1BTC=5 Gh/s)
Post by: pizza on June 26, 2013, 05:34:18 AM
NO escrow?
and if you paid.the pic should like this below.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=238336.msg2523131#msg2523131

The link you have posted is for bitpay while I have paid with Paypal. And escrow is welcome for the Saturn shares but for the Jupiter unfortunately I will need the coins to place the order.


Are both the Jupiter and Saturn already paid for?
Which order id each?

What/which will I buy for 1btc?

Only Saturn has been paid for, order ID: 292 and the group buy is for Jupiter (also 1-500)

1 share of Jupiter (Group buy) = 1 BTC
1 share of Saturn (Already paid for) = 0.5 BTC

I'd also be interested in knowing what the plan is with mining once the hardware arrives and also weather or not we could view current statistics regarding the hardware (API support). Is there a plan..?

The plan I had in mind is that each Jupiter and Saturn would have their own worker, every 2 weeks I will divide the profits made based on the shares purchased by the user. For viewing the hardware statistics I was thinking of using a pool which has easy access to the hashrates of each user to make sure that at all times the rigs are running. Again I'm no expert at this, so any suggestion is welcome.


Title: Re: [Open][Group Buy] 1 KNCMiner Jupiter & Saturn Preorder 1-500 (1BTC=5 Gh/s)
Post by: Voodah on June 26, 2013, 06:31:19 AM
Hmm.. ok...

What about hosting? Will KNC house them or you ready for that?



Title: Re: [Open][Group Buy] 1 KNCMiner Jupiter & Saturn Preorder 1-500 (1BTC=5 Gh/s)
Post by: pizza on June 26, 2013, 06:34:48 AM
Hmm.. ok...

What about hosting? Will KNC house them or you ready for that?



I will be hosting them in an air conditioned room


Title: Re: [Open][Group Buy] 1 KNCMiner Jupiter & Saturn Preorder 1-500 (1BTC=5 Gh/s)
Post by: pizza on June 26, 2013, 01:08:30 PM
PMed John K. about sending him my IDs for security purposes and setting up an escrow for Saturn shares.


Title: Re: [Group Buy]1 KNCMiner Jupiter & Saturn Preorder 1-500 (1BTC=5 Gh/s) || 1 Sold
Post by: matt4054 on June 26, 2013, 03:34:21 PM
You say the Jupiter will also be 1-500, but how is that possible since the pre-order payment window for 1-500 is closed now (even for those who had a pre-order)? Do you have a special agreement with KnC?


Title: Re: [Group Buy]1 KNCMiner Jupiter & Saturn Preorder 1-500 (1BTC=5 Gh/s) || 1 Sold
Post by: pizza on June 26, 2013, 03:41:53 PM
You say the Jupiter will also be 1-500, but how is that possible since the pre-order payment window for 1-500 is closed now (even for those who had a pre-order)? Do you have a special agreement with KnC?

The order was paid for partially on 10 June and I emailed Sam regarding this. He said I can still keep the spot if I can pay within June, hence the group buy.


Title: Re: [Group Buy]1 KNCMiner Jupiter & Saturn Preorder 1-500 (1BTC=5 Gh/s) || 1 Sold
Post by: DanyAC on June 26, 2013, 03:54:55 PM
Hi Pizza!, can you reserve me 2 shares until I get home? (8 hours aprox)

Thank you!


Title: Re: [Group Buy]1 KNCMiner Jupiter & Saturn Preorder 1-500 (1BTC=5 Gh/s) || 1 Sold
Post by: pizza on June 26, 2013, 04:08:25 PM
Hi Pizza!, can you reserve me 2 shares until I get home? (8 hours aprox)

Thank you!


2 Jupiter shares reserved for DanyAC. 68 Left.


Edit: John K. post
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=242977.msg2585515#msg2585515


Title: Re: [Group Buy]1 KNCMiner Jupiter & Saturn Preorder 1-500 (1BTC=5 Gh/s) || 1 Sold
Post by: zurg on June 26, 2013, 04:29:55 PM
Pizza, reserve 2 shares for me also! Thanks


Title: Re: [Group Buy]1 KNCMiner Jupiter & Saturn Preorder 1-500 (1BTC=5 Gh/s) || 1 Sold
Post by: pizza on June 26, 2013, 04:46:28 PM
Pizza, reserve 2 shares for me also! Thanks

Reserved. Received payment for 1 for now.
66 left for Jupiter.


Title: Re: [Group Buy]1 KNCMiner Jupiter & Saturn Preorder 1-500 (1BTC=5 Gh/s) || 1 Sold
Post by: lb9188 on June 26, 2013, 06:00:36 PM
Hello pizza! I'm interested, but I do not know in the end be able to buy shares of Jupiter or Saturn? Both are? Up to how many shares to buy? If you can, I would like to buy more. My English is not good, if you can reply I would be very grateful!


Title: Re: [Group Buy]1 KNCMiner Jupiter & Saturn Preorder 1-500 (1BTC=5 Gh/s) || 1 Sold
Post by: pizza on June 26, 2013, 06:18:38 PM
Shares available for
Saturn - 78 (0.5 BTC/1 share) = 2.24Gh/s
Jupiter - 66 (1 BTC/ 1 share) = 5Gh/s


Title: Re: [Group Buy]1 KNCMiner Jupiter & Saturn Preorder 1-500 (1BTC=5 Gh/s) || 1 Sold
Post by: DanyAC on June 26, 2013, 07:37:13 PM
You say the Jupiter will also be 1-500, but how is that possible since the pre-order payment window for 1-500 is closed now (even for those who had a pre-order)? Do you have a special agreement with KnC?

The order was paid for partially on 10 June and I emailed Sam regarding this. He said I can still keep the spot if I can pay within June, hence the group buy.

What do you mean about "paid for partially" ?

Thanks


Title: Re: [Group Buy]1 KNCMiner Jupiter & Saturn Preorder 1-500 (1BTC=5 Gh/s) || 1 Sold
Post by: pizza on June 26, 2013, 07:41:05 PM
You say the Jupiter will also be 1-500, but how is that possible since the pre-order payment window for 1-500 is closed now (even for those who had a pre-order)? Do you have a special agreement with KnC?

The order was paid for partially on 10 June and I emailed Sam regarding this. He said I can still keep the spot if I can pay within June, hence the group buy.

What do you mean about "paid for partially" ?

Thanks

The payment was through Bitpay, I paid for about 50% of the total price according to the exchange rate back then.


Title: Re: [Group Buy]1 KNCMiner Jupiter & Saturn Preorder 1-500 (1BTC=5 Gh/s) || 1 Sold
Post by: DanyAC on June 26, 2013, 08:13:30 PM
You say the Jupiter will also be 1-500, but how is that possible since the pre-order payment window for 1-500 is closed now (even for those who had a pre-order)? Do you have a special agreement with KnC?

The order was paid for partially on 10 June and I emailed Sam regarding this. He said I can still keep the spot if I can pay within June, hence the group buy.

What do you mean about "paid for partially" ?

Thanks

The payment was through Bitpay, I paid for about 50% of the total price according to the exchange rate back then.

So you have already paid 1 Saturn and 1/2 Jupiter?



Title: Re: [Group Buy]1 KNCMiner Jupiter & Saturn Preorder 1-500 (1BTC=5 Gh/s) || 1 Sold
Post by: pizza on June 26, 2013, 08:15:45 PM
You say the Jupiter will also be 1-500, but how is that possible since the pre-order payment window for 1-500 is closed now (even for those who had a pre-order)? Do you have a special agreement with KnC?

The order was paid for partially on 10 June and I emailed Sam regarding this. He said I can still keep the spot if I can pay within June, hence the group buy.

What do you mean about "paid for partially" ?

Thanks

The payment was through Bitpay, I paid for about 50% of the total price according to the exchange rate back then.

So you have already paid 1 Saturn and 1/2 Jupiter?



Basically yes. The group buy is for the Jupiter to keep the 1-500 position.


Title: Re: [Group Buy]1 KNCMiner Jupiter & Saturn Preorder 1-500 (1BTC=5 Gh/s) || 1 Sold
Post by: DanyAC on June 26, 2013, 08:25:29 PM
You say the Jupiter will also be 1-500, but how is that possible since the pre-order payment window for 1-500 is closed now (even for those who had a pre-order)? Do you have a special agreement with KnC?

The order was paid for partially on 10 June and I emailed Sam regarding this. He said I can still keep the spot if I can pay within June, hence the group buy.

What do you mean about "paid for partially" ?

Thanks

The payment was through Bitpay, I paid for about 50% of the total price according to the exchange rate back then.

So you have already paid 1 Saturn and 1/2 Jupiter?



Basically yes. The group buy is for the Jupiter to keep the 1-500 position.

But, you are selling shares for both ASICs no?

Maybe you can edit the original post with this question don't you think?

Thanks!


Title: Re: [Group Buy]1 KNCMiner Jupiter & Saturn Preorder 1-500 (1BTC=5 Gh/s) || 1 Sold
Post by: pizza on June 26, 2013, 08:30:17 PM
Thanks, updated the "What are you investing in?" section


Title: Re: [Group Buy]1 KNCMiner Jupiter & Saturn Preorder 1-500 (1BTC=5 Gh/s) || 1 Sold
Post by: DanyAC on June 26, 2013, 08:41:23 PM
You are welcome!
and I'm sorry but I have another question.... Now that kncminer anounced that Jupiter will have almost 400Ghs, the 1 BTC = 1 Share = 5Gh/s remains the same?


Title: Re: [Group Buy]1 KNCMiner Jupiter & Saturn Preorder 1-500 (1BTC=5.7 Gh/s)|1 Sold
Post by: pizza on June 26, 2013, 08:45:45 PM
You are welcome!
and I'm sorry but I have another question.... Now that kncminer anounced that Jupiter will have almost 400Ghs, the 1 BTC = 1 Share = 5Gh/s remains the same?

No problem at all. Now it will be 5.7Gh/s per share I believe and 2.56 for Saturn.


Title: Re: [Group Buy]1 KNCMiner Jupiter & Saturn Preorder 1-500 (1BTC=5.71 Gh/s) || 1 Sold
Post by: M8R on June 26, 2013, 10:18:32 PM
around what time can we expect these?!


Title: Re: [Group Buy]1 KNCMiner Jupiter & Saturn Preorder 1-500 (1BTC=5.71 Gh/s) || 1 Sold
Post by: DanyAC on June 26, 2013, 10:34:37 PM
around what time can we expect these?!

September I think....


Title: Re: [Group Buy]1 KNCMiner Jupiter & Saturn Preorder 1-500 (1BTC=5.71 Gh/s) || 1 Sold
Post by: DanyAC on June 26, 2013, 10:50:01 PM
Pizza, can you add the screenshots of Saturn and "half jupiter" payouts in the main post ?
Thank you


Title: Re: [Group Buy]1 KNCMiner Jupiter & Saturn Preorder 1-500 (1BTC=5.71 Gh/s) || 1 Sold
Post by: pizza on June 26, 2013, 11:05:32 PM
around what time can we expect these?!

September I think....

That's what they mention of their website.

Pizza, can you add the screenshots of Saturn and "half jupiter" payouts in the main post ?
Thank you

Screenshot for the Saturn is already on the 2nd post. However for the Jupiter I do not have a Bitpay page to show for it. I made the down payment based on the agreement that as long as I complete the other 50% by the end of the month I can keep the position 249.

So if by 30th June I am unable to sell atleast 45% of the shares I will ask the investors what they would like to do as the Jupiter would no longer be a part of the 1-500 slot. Based on the majority I will either refund everyone or carry on with the group buy.


Title: Re: [Group Buy]1 KNCMiner Jupiter & Saturn Preorder 1-500 (1BTC=5.71 Gh/s) || 1 Sold
Post by: JohnyBigs on June 27, 2013, 04:13:22 AM
GUYS THIS IS PIZZA, MY ACCOUNT WAS HACKED, DON'T TRUST THIS POST YOU WILL GET RIPPED OFF


Title: Re: [Group Buy]1 KNCMiner Jupiter & Saturn Preorder 1-500 (1BTC=5.71 Gh/s) || 1 Sold
Post by: Voodah on June 27, 2013, 04:49:36 AM
The plot thickens...


Title: Re: [Group Buy]1 KNCMiner Jupiter & Saturn Preorder 1-500 (1BTC=5.71 Gh/s) || 1 Sold
Post by: JohnyBigs on June 27, 2013, 05:11:08 AM
The plot thickens...

Whats sad is that I have contacted the Admin about this and provided more than enough proof for any reasonable person to see that I owned the account. I provided my old password, users I had pmd, and actual PM word for word, screenshots my a bitcoin address that I used for a transaction with a user, and instead of at least shutting down the account temporarily to confirm everything they let him post freely.

The best advice ever given on these forums, which I now take to heart is Use Escrow


Title: Re: [Group Buy]1 KNCMiner Jupiter & Saturn Preorder 1-500 (1BTC=5.71 Gh/s) || 1 Sold
Post by: Voodah on June 27, 2013, 05:56:43 AM
The plot thickens...

Whats sad is that I have contacted the Admin about this and provided more than enough proof for any reasonable person to see that I owned the account. I provided my old password, users I had pmd, and actual PM word for word, screenshots my a bitcoin address that I used for a transaction with a user, and instead of at least shutting down the account temporarily to confirm everything they let him post freely.

The best advice ever given on these forums, which I now take to heart is Use Escrow

Yeah this post was shady all along. Did he steal your btc too?


Title: Re: [Group Buy]1 KNCMiner Jupiter & Saturn Preorder 1-500 (1BTC=5.71 Gh/s) || 1 Sold
Post by: lb9188 on June 27, 2013, 07:05:53 AM
Friends, I noticed that Jupiter's payment page screenshot is not clear, why? I want to know which country you are? Will you and other promoters, like mining machine installed independently for each camera? If in case after the mining machine is broken, what would you do to protect the interests of investors?


Title: Re: [Group Buy]1 KNCMiner Jupiter & Saturn Preorder 1-500 (1BTC=5.71 Gh/s) || 1 Sold
Post by: JohnyBigs on June 27, 2013, 07:39:36 AM
Friends, I noticed that Jupiter's payment page screenshot is not clear, why? I want to know which country you are? Will you and other promoters, like mining machine installed independently for each camera? If in case after the mining machine is broken, what would you do to protect the interests of investors?


It's a scam! He hacked my account


Title: Re: [Group Buy]1 KNCMiner Jupiter & Saturn Preorder 1-500 (1BTC=5.71 Gh/s) || 1 Sold
Post by: JohnyBigs on June 27, 2013, 07:41:10 AM
The plot thickens...

Whats sad is that I have contacted the Admin about this and provided more than enough proof for any reasonable person to see that I owned the account. I provided my old password, users I had pmd, and actual PM word for word, screenshots my a bitcoin address that I used for a transaction with a user, and instead of at least shutting down the account temporarily to confirm everything they let him post freely.

The best advice ever given on these forums, which I now take to heart is Use Escrow

Yeah this post was shady all along. Did he steal your btc too?

No just my username I'm behind a VPN so he can suck my dick with trying to steal my BTC.


Title: Re: [Group Buy]1 KNCMiner Jupiter & Saturn Preorder 1-500 (1BTC=5.71 Gh/s) || 1 Sold
Post by: JohnyBigs on June 27, 2013, 07:42:30 AM
WARNING PIZZA WAS MY ACCOUNT, AND IT HAS BEEN HACKED THIS GUY WILL SCAM YOU


Title: Re: [Group Buy]1 KNCMiner Jupiter & Saturn Preorder 1-500 (1BTC=5.71 Gh/s) || 1 Sold
Post by: pizza on June 27, 2013, 07:47:14 AM
WARNING PIZZA WAS MY ACCOUNT, AND IT HAS BEEN HACKED THIS GUY WILL SCAM YOU

Not this again. Your account was made on May 10. So it took you more than a month to report your own "hacked" account?

And before you were saying pizza told you his account was hacked and now it turned into your own account?
Mods Pizza contacted me and told me his account was hacked. The hacker is using his name to scam people if you look at the new threads you can also see that his password was changed. He asked me to tell you to disable his account so no one gets scammed.


Title: Re: [Group Buy]1 KNCMiner Jupiter & Saturn Preorder 1-500 (1BTC=5.71 Gh/s) || 1 Sold
Post by: TheFirstSearcher on June 27, 2013, 09:10:47 AM
Reserving 5 jupiters, thx! will pay tonight


Title: Re: [Group Buy]1 KNCMiner Jupiter & Saturn Preorder 1-500 (1BTC=5.71 Gh/s) || 1 Sold
Post by: GinoClarkson on June 27, 2013, 09:52:36 AM
How long will you wait for KNC to ship if they cause delay?


Title: Re: [Group Buy]1 KNCMiner Jupiter & Saturn Preorder 1-500 (1BTC=5.71 Gh/s) || 1 Sold
Post by: GinoClarkson on June 27, 2013, 11:42:49 AM
and u don't make into 1-500 then ???


Title: Re: [Group Buy]1 KNCMiner Jupiter & Saturn Preorder 1-500 (1BTC=5.71 Gh/s) || 1 Sold
Post by: DanyAC on June 27, 2013, 01:11:18 PM
WARNING PIZZA WAS MY ACCOUNT, AND IT HAS BEEN HACKED THIS GUY WILL SCAM YOU

Not this again. Your account was made on May 10. So it took you more than a month to report your own "hacked" account?

And before you were saying pizza told you his account was hacked and now it turned into your own account?
Mods Pizza contacted me and told me his account was hacked. The hacker is using his name to scam people if you look at the new threads you can also see that his password was changed. He asked me to tell you to disable his account so no one gets scammed.

I'm sorry Pizza but you have to show confidence to the people here... why JohnyBigs say you scam?


Title: Re: [Group Buy]1 KNCMiner Jupiter & Saturn Preorder 1-500 (1BTC=5.71 Gh/s) || 1 Sold
Post by: DanyAC on June 27, 2013, 02:03:09 PM
Ok, can you post the mail with sam in the main post, because here the important thing is that is a 1-500 preorder....


Title: Re: [Group Buy]1 KNCMiner Jupiter & Saturn Preorder 1-500 (1BTC=5.71 Gh/s) || 1 Sold
Post by: JohnyBigs on June 27, 2013, 05:23:16 PM
Lmao I can post a screen shot of my real order with the order number from knc directly. You idiots will get scammed. Enjoy though i dont give a shit anymore since clearly the Admins dont either.


Title: Re: [Group Buy]1 KNCMiner Jupiter & Saturn Preorder 1-500 (1BTC=5.71 Gh/s) || 1 Sold
Post by: JohnyBigs on June 27, 2013, 05:28:54 PM
WARNING PIZZA WAS MY ACCOUNT, AND IT HAS BEEN HACKED THIS GUY WILL SCAM YOU

Not this again. Your account was made on May 10. So it took you more than a month to report your own "hacked" account?

And before you were saying pizza told you his account was hacked and now it turned into your own account?
Mods Pizza contacted me and told me his account was hacked. The hacker is using his name to scam people if you look at the new threads you can also see that his password was changed. He asked me to tell you to disable his account so no one gets scammed.

This is my friends account that he is letting me use you faggot scum.


Title: Re: [Group Buy]1 KNCMiner Jupiter & Saturn Preorder 1-500 (1BTC=5.71 Gh/s) || 1 Sold
Post by: JohnyBigs on June 27, 2013, 05:48:08 PM
I AM PIZZA AND HERE IS MY KNC ORDER, WHICH THE HACKER OP CAN'T POST.

http://i43.tinypic.com/rw0489.jpg


Title: Re: [Group Buy]1 KNCMiner Jupiter & Saturn Preorder 1-500 (1BTC=5.71 Gh/s) || 1 Sold
Post by: Voodah on June 27, 2013, 06:05:59 PM
Oh my.. what a mess.

Please show ALL data provided to JohnK. No blurry thing, no bs. Credibility is -100 atm, we need it restored.

Actually, f*ck it. If none of you can show data to prove you're real or the other guy is fake, you're probably both incompetent, and certainly not investment worthy.


Title: Re: [Group Buy]1 KNCMiner Jupiter & Saturn Preorder 1-500 (1BTC=5.71 Gh/s) || 1 Sold
Post by: zurg on June 27, 2013, 06:10:44 PM
Oh my.. what a mess.

Please show ALL data provided to JohnK. No blurry thing, no bs. Credibility is -100 atm, we need it restored.

Actually, f*ck it. If none of you can show data to prove you're real or the other guy is fake, you're probably both incompetent, and certainly not investment worthy.

A mess is an understatement at this point. lol
I guess I may be missing 1BTC from this all...


Title: Re: [Group Buy]1 KNCMiner Jupiter & Saturn Preorder 1-500 (1BTC=5.71 Gh/s) || 1 Sold
Post by: JohnyBigs on June 27, 2013, 06:33:29 PM
Oh my.. what a mess.

Please show ALL data provided to JohnK. No blurry thing, no bs. Credibility is -100 atm, we need it restored.

Actually, f*ck it. If none of you can show data to prove you're real or the other guy is fake, you're probably both incompetent, and certainly not investment worthy.

All Data was shown to Thymos.

1. Gave him my old password to which he replied you could be the hacker and the real pizza changed it. If I was the hacker and I gained access to the account I would have changed it on the spot, makes no sense logically.

2. Provided usernames of users I had PMd

3. Asked me to sign a bitcoin address that I had used with a User. I PM him the whole message from that user. I show him a screenshot of that address in my Armory. Unfortunately, signing in Armory doesn't work for me, so I showed him a screenshot. It's been almost 2 days since he last responded.

I've come to the conclusion that they real just don't give a shit, because providing my old password, Users who I've PM'D, and an exact PM word for word, screenshot of the Bitcoin address, should of been more than enough proof for any logical person.


Title: Re: [Group Buy]1 KNCMiner Jupiter & Saturn Preorder 1-500 (1BTC=5.71 Gh/s) || 1 Sold
Post by: Voodah on June 27, 2013, 07:58:06 PM
Oh my.. what a mess.

Please show ALL data provided to JohnK. No blurry thing, no bs. Credibility is -100 atm, we need it restored.

Actually, f*ck it. If none of you can show data to prove you're real or the other guy is fake, you're probably both incompetent, and certainly not investment worthy.

All Data was shown to Thymos.

1. Gave him my old password to which he replied you could be the hacker and the real pizza changed it. If I was the hacker and I gained access to the account I would have changed it on the spot, makes no sense logically.

2. Provided usernames of users I had PMd

3. Asked me to sign a bitcoin address that I had used with a User. I PM him the whole message from that user. I show him a screenshot of that address in my Armory. Unfortunately, signing in Armory doesn't work for me, so I showed him a screenshot. It's been almost 2 days since he last responded.

I've come to the conclusion that they real just don't give a shit, because providing my old password, Users who I've PM'D, and an exact PM word for word, screenshot of the Bitcoin address, should of been more than enough proof for any logical person.

Ok, I kinda believe you more atm but anyway..

Your old password is useless. Idk if you know anything about web dev or not, but unless your using a really old bad insecure user system, you have no way to see a user's password. You only see a hash (you could try to crack it with mining hashing power we certainly got around), but nevertheless, if the pw has changed the old hash is lost. There is no way to prove "your" old password is the real old password.

Knowing this, and by being unable (whatever your reasons are) to provide a signed message, I kinda understand where Thymos stands though. You're not making too much of a good case for yourself.


Title: Re: [Group Buy]1 KNCMiner Jupiter & Saturn Preorder 1-500 (1BTC=5.71 Gh/s) || 1 Sold
Post by: matt4054 on June 27, 2013, 08:15:23 PM
Your old password is useless. Idk if you know anything about web dev or not, but unless your using a really old bad insecure user system, you have no way to see a user's password. You only see a hash (you could try to crack it with mining hashing power we certainly got around), but nevertheless, if the pw has changed the old hash is lost. There is no way to prove "your" old password is the real old password.

Not entirely true, supposing the forum stores periodical old DB dumps, Theymos could restore one of the old dumps in a sandbox DB and compare the hash with the one of the guy claiming to be hacked. But it's not trivial and I can understand he doesn't want to go this far. Furthermore, it wouldn't even prove anything (beyond "I knew the old password"), actually it would merely support the claim.

At any rate, I must agree that this claim sucks for trust in this GB, sadly :(


Title: Re: [Group Buy]1 KNCMiner Jupiter & Saturn Preorder 1-500 (1BTC=5.71 Gh/s) || 1 Sold
Post by: JohnyBigs on June 27, 2013, 08:25:41 PM
Great ignore the old password, how would I know which users have Pmd if I didn't have access to the account? Or provide you a word for word pmd message from the account and show you a screenshot of a pmd bitcoin address in my armory?

I'm sorry but if you think that's not undeniable proof you must have mental problems. I posted here the OPS order number from kncminer, but yeah not enough proof I guess.

Anyway I've done my fair share of warning and don't even give a shit about the account anymore. There is nothing understandable about what is happening. Proof has been provided beyond a reasonable doubt, the fact that the admin hasn't even bothered to limit posts from the account in dispute speaks volumes.

People will get scammed but it's not my forums so who gives a shit. You have all been warned transact at your own risk.


Title: Re: [Group Buy]1 KNCMiner Jupiter & Saturn Preorder 1-500 (1BTC=5.71 Gh/s) || 1 Sold
Post by: lb9188 on June 27, 2013, 08:27:56 PM
I can attest JohnyBigs was telling the truth, I have official contacts with knc, available evidence suggests that pizza looks really account controlled by hackers, I will show my communication with knc record screenshots, hoping to avoid more people taken to minimize loss, god bless you!
http://i41.tinypic.com/x209kp.png
http://i39.tinypic.com/2rhbsz7.png


Title: Re: [Group Buy]1 KNCMiner Jupiter & Saturn Preorder 1-500 (1BTC=5.71 Gh/s) || 1 Sold
Post by: matt4054 on June 27, 2013, 08:41:15 PM
I do not know how to show pictures

Use this (http://imgur.com) for example


Title: Re: [Group Buy]1 KNCMiner Jupiter & Saturn Preorder 1-500 (1BTC=5.71 Gh/s) || 1 Sold
Post by: hendo420 on June 28, 2013, 12:16:50 AM
I can verify that the original pizza is not in control of his own account. I have been talking to him outside of this forum for over 2 months, we have become pretty good friends. That person using the pizza account is not pizza. Give pizza his account back.


DO NOT ORDER FROM THIS IMPOSTOR!!!


Title: Re: [Group Buy]1 KNCMiner Jupiter & Saturn Preorder 1-500 (1BTC=5.71 Gh/s) || 1 Sold
Post by: rPman on June 29, 2013, 12:32:38 PM
Учитecь :)
Teмa пoявляeтcя нe в cвoeм фopyмe, в нee нaбeгaют пoчeмy тo cpaзy тaк жe нe тoй лoкaли пoльзoвaтeли, aктивнo флyдят пpaвильными вoпpocaми... дaжe нe знaю, oчeнь cepьeзнo вce тyт :).


Title: Re: [Group Buy]1 KNCMiner Jupiter & Saturn Preorder 1-500 (1BTC=5.71 Gh/s) || 1 Sold
Post by: naima53 on June 29, 2013, 05:48:46 PM
Жecть.