Bitcoin Forum

This year has been a tumultuous one, especially for Bitcoin. Different groups within Bitcoin’s original community have not been able to even remotely agree on which protocol should be implemented in order to solve Bitcoin’s scalability problem. One particular group felt strongly that bigger blocks were the solution to the problem and so hard forked away from the original Bitcoin blockchain to create Bitcoin Cash (BCH).

Read More here: https://cryptodaily.co.uk/2017/11/roger-ver-declares-bitcoin-cash-true-bitcoin/

I think that's quite clear.

Perhaps one day the torch will be passed, but I think that is a long way off. The majority of the general public is still only just hearing about Bitcoin for the first time. It's still in the early stages of "real world" adoption, but it is gaining a lot of ground. Bitcoin Cash has a long way to go before it has the same recognition as Bitcoin. Having a similar name helps, but most people are not ready to delve into crpyto deep enough to learn about forks or alts. People have to remember that the trading price on exchanges does not determine which coin is accepted by the most people.

This is what wikipedia says ^

"Roger Ver (born in February 1979) is a Kittitian/Nevisian early investor in bitcoin related startups. He was formerly an American citizen. He was born and lived in Silicon Valley.[1] He now resides in Japan. He has been a prominent supporter of bitcoin adoption and saw bitcoin as a means to promote economic freedom. He now promotes Bitcoin Cash, a different cryptocurrency. He identifies as a libertarian, an anarcho-capitalist, peace advocate and advocates for individualism and voluntaryism"

😊He is just an investor.. dude chill out.. just like you and me...yes he supported bitcoins and made a high profit from it and now he is aiming at supporting bitcoin cash and influencing genral public to fund in Bitcoins cash...and the reason is simple :) because he already have a good amount of bitcoin cash and no other cryptocurrency is worth bitcoins..thus he wants to.. get profit... From bitcoin cash now because buying bitcoins now... Won't... Help... I don't think he is doing right.. Influencing public at regular intervals to gain personal profit.
I don't even think one should look forward to him...
I think bitcoins are bitcoins and no alternate cryptocurrencies can take over it ever..

Bitcoin is a store of value for cryptocurrency, Bitcoin is like a brand like if you say someone dude cryptocurrencies are cool you should look at them that guy most likely will not be interested but if you say someone about Bitcoin that guy probably will be interested in it.

The thing here is people trust, like, love Bitcoin its the 1st cryptocurrency and I don't think the time has yet come to replace Bitcoin with some other coin due to its present scalability problems.

Bitcoin cash is good but Robert ver declaring it as a true bitcoin that is his personal opinion and of course his own greed behind it.

Roger Ver always bla bla about BCH
Bitcoin Cash is a fork of Bitcoin’s blockchain with two primary  features:
1- 8mb maximum block size
2- emergency difficulty adjustment feature (EDA)
We do not know what will happen in the future. Everything can be.

it might happen, but I think bitcoin cash will be quite difficult and it will take a long time to beat the bitcoin .. really once, when people have learned about crypto hard fork and coin alts ,, maybe they can get enough personal profit large when trading goes into large volumes and for that education is required for adoption across the country, because it can benefit the public

Quick, sell all your bitcoin’s because Roger Ver is heavily promoting BCH  ::)

have potential to grow in the market the bitcoin cash but look at today bitcoin price keep increasing and hoping become 10k usd before the year end, but people have choices go for bitcoin cash do it thats your choice can't dectate to people because every people have an own brain and decision, but i always believe the power of bitcoin even have a people want to destroy bitcoin in the crypto world bitcoin strongly stand in his place as king of altcoins.

Seems to me that team Roger ver were the people behind sudden upsurge of bitcoin. Undoubtedly Roger was the very first person to acknolwedge the beauty of bitcoin. He must be with BCH for a solid reason. Saying this I completely agree that bitcoin could lose its decentralization potential if it continues to stay the same way. Block size is filling up fees are increasing. We might just end up becoming puppets of mining companies. As the price of bitcoin is increasing fees like 200sats/byte mean around $2-3 which makes it difficult for transacting small amounts. We need a different protocol for sure.

Why wouldn't he say that ? Roger Ver was the main person behind the sudden surge in the price of Bitcoin cash.
He and some group of big investors manipulated Bitcoin cash's price and spread a rumor in the community that BCH is the real Bitcoin.
Some people actually fell for it and invested in BCH while the wise people invested in it and took out the huge profits.
People like Roger Ver are real threat to Bitcoin as they manipulate coins and increase their already big capital.

The hard fork only make coins to support the increasing demand of bitcoin this is how I see them and because bitcoin has no way but to go even higher demand the limited supply will be a big problem, with this bitcoin cash, gold and segwit were introduce to somehow divert the market but they are not made to eliminate bitcoin I'm sure this will only help bitcoin in future time.

Im pretty sure he's carrying a whole lotta BCH!

Well I declare that he is wrong. So what?  ::)

Not surprising, given the fact that he was one of the most vocal backers of Bitcoin Cash (along with Jihan Wu). But he is yet to dump any coins from his gigantic Bitcoin stash (which is rumored to be worth at least BTC300,000). Right now, he holds almost equal amounts of BTC and BCH. If he supports BCH that much, then ideally he should be selling his Bitcoins for BCH.

the title itself is contradictory which makes it even funnier.

you see the thing about bitcoin is that it is a decentralized system and it works based on consensus of the majority. "one person" no matter who that person is (me, Roger Ver, Core devs, even real Satoshi Nakamoto) don't get a say in it anymore. the majority decides what is the "true bitcoin" instead.

let me put it this way, even if the real Satoshi Nakamoto came out today and forked bitcoin to a 10 MB block size today, it still won't be bitcoin if it gets as little support as BCH has gotten.

Doesn't matter what the CEO of this altcoin says (but i thought the "true bitcoin" was a decentralized system?), the public and newcomers will always choose Bitcoin over bch. People don't care about 'true vision of satoshi' anymore, they just want to invest in the 1# cryptocurrency on the market. At the end of day, no one cares about what Rogers says (or what his greedy friends say) except his delusional fans and bch users who keep on spreading FUD about bitcoin. bch is now just an altcoin and will forever be an altcoin.

I was reading the book - Digital Gold: Bitcoin and the inside story of the misfits and the millionnaires and read about Roger's ability to communicate well with people and had the ability to sell Bitcoin's benefits to anyone. He was a good investor and invested a lot of funds back in the days especially in Bitinstant and Blockchain.info. I think there's something that changed in Roger over time and he's now into the grip of something real evil which I don't think he probably realizes. After the Bitcoin Cash hard fork, he mostly kept emphasizing on how the subreddit was censored and how Bitcoin couldn't benefit the poor because of the transaction sizes. He belives that there's a special entity that controls Bitcoin, which I feel is wrong. There's no control when things are clearly decentralizaed, even the development efforts from the core team isn't honestly controlled by any one entity. His worries are also about the transaction fees and the block size limit, but comparing to today's mempool log and fees it's very much clear that it is not really the case.

I really hope that Roger and others really unites back and comes back to selling the benefits of Bitcoins to others, and help invest in Bitcoin startups that may be successful in the future.

He certainly was NOT the first person to acknowledge bitcoin.
If you are looking for early investors that evangelized bitcoin, you should look at Trace Mayer as he was in bitcoin before Roger.
You should also look at Wences Casares.

Roger said in this podcast that he's been unloading his Bitcoin for BCH, uploaded Nov 19.
https://letstalkbitcoin.com/blog/post/the-crypto-show-roger-ver-on-the-rise-of-bitcoin-cash

the essence of being true relies on the acceptance of the commerce which where btc cash is still young but we cannot say its future for acceptability depends on the security and reliability when it comes to processing..but i think cryptocurrency creator should unite and not be divided for it to survive :)

Who is Roger ver to declare bitcoin cash as the true bitcoin?Is he the creator of bitcoin?He is just an early investor.At first,he was like bitcoin jesus promoting bitcoin,but latter he became the bitcoin antichrist.Earlier he even spent some money to make bitcoin popular and in turn earned  lot from bitcoin.So,his words had a respect among the bitcoin community earlier.

Later,he started to show his original face.He along with jihan wu tried to create Bitcoin unlimited and they claimed that it would be the true bitcoin.But it failed.Then he and his group of chinese miners tried to hard fork bitcoin and create bitcoin cash terming it as the true bitcoin where transactions would be confirmed soon.But it too failed to replace bitcoin.

Then he indirectly supported segwit2x activation to replace bitcoin with bitcoin segwit2x coin.but again,he failed.Then comes the phase of bitcoin cash BCH pumping and as usual,he failed this time also.

Now,we should know that its a total waste of time to give importance to words of such person who has now totally converted in to bitcoin antichrist.

R.Ver is thing about his pocket but not about global world and decentralization crypto

normal that he says that because of everything he has in BCC

These claims that people make, doesn't end up to be true every time. How many people do you think are going to listen to Roger here? Even though he belongs to a group of people who understood bitcoin's actual potential in the very beginning phase of bitcoin and didn't judge it in the first place.
Bitcoin cash is not a bad altcoin, but at the same time, it's not the very best(I am not talking about it in terms of price). Support from ant pool and recent events claim Chinese were involved in it's recent price pump;is not  enough for bitcoin cash to take over bitcoin. Maybe in the future bitcoin cash may give a tougher fight to bitcoin, but overtaking bitcoin's spotlight is not going to happen that easily. Remember the times when people claimed ethereum will take over bitcoin and some are still trying to?