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hi guys,

im curious why every buys gtx 1060, why not rx 580 nor gtx 1070 nor r9 390 etc. and also lots of people bought 3gb of it, why not 6gb?

if u help me to understand this, i ll be glad, thank you all.

Hi,

GTX 1060 cards use up very little electricity.

People do buy RX series cards for mining (Different cards are best for different algos. NVIDIA Equihash, AMD Ethash. Mine the coin you like/is most profitable)

People do buy GTX 1070 cards.

R9 series cards use up A LOT OF electricity (Electricity bill is gonna be huge, slower ROI).

3GB cards are cheaper, hashrate is the same as 6GB ones (Faster ROI).

Have a nice one!

thanks for reply, have a good night.

Its because people are cheap. Same reason why people are trying to mine on 1050s. They want to be miners but arent willing to invest the money to build a profitable setup.

1060s are profitable, especially all things considered, like how they're pretty good at ETH and Neoscrypt (compared to 1080/1080ti), and how they're 1.5x slower than 1070s in most algos while being two times cheaper. No wonder mining-specific cards are mostly 1060s. I don't personally buy any more 1060s, and go for higher-end cards, but can't say that 1060s are a bad choice.

1050s are crap though indeed. :D

I'm leaning towards 1060s 6GB myself for new builds you can put them closer together on those new 8 and 9 card boards, no need for risers and you can get super dense with them

for example I can put 8-10 rigs of 1060s at 8 per rig in a rack where i can only put 6 rigs of 580s or vegas or even 1070s (non mini) due to thier size and heat

I don't build a lot of rigs, and only buy from regular stores (= no special discounts etc), so for me it's usually the matter of price. 1060/3 cards are cheap and I could easily get them, while I don't often see good deals for 1060/6 cards. And 1070s are very expensive locally, they usually cost almost as much as 1080s (they're $500+ where I live, while good 1080s are $550-580). So I've just been buying 1080s lately. If there were good affordable 1060/6 cards available, I'd consider getting them. Same with 1070s, but at $500+ they aren't worth it for me.

Most of my GPUs are AMD RX series, but I still purchase some GTX1060 because it's cheap and it give me more options on mining altcoins which are achieved low hashrate if we use AMD: ZEN/ZEC/VTC/XZC/FTC/BTG/...

The GTX 1060 has a good mix of cost / hashrate / profit / power consumption ratios making it ideal to use it in multi GPU mining rigs. Take a look at whattomine.com for some calculations if you need to. But generally, it is best for mining ZEC. I use EWBF's miner and can see that mining efficiency is really good.

The reason is simple, if you are to mine ZEC, ZEN, HUSH, then 3 GB of mem, is enough, and the price of 1060 3GB is very low, so it is the most profitable purchase as of now.
and there is no sacrifice in performance comparing to 6GB version ( well almost)
So people take such cards, because of the most favourable price/performance ratio at the moment

Is there any difference in hash between the 3gb and 6gb versions of the 1060 ?

In my country, we have other reason why many of miner buy 1060. It because 2-3 month ago, we can't find any rx series (400/500 series). The distributor said they didn't have stock since bitcoin price increase in a short time made many people interesting to buy RX series for mining. 1060 as an alternative.

for me it very inexpensive ticket to the miner world.
the card is fast in a lot of algos, except ETH ( not enough memory size)
but I have plenty to choose - neoscrypt, equihash, c11, scunk, poly and etc.

i have 12 gpu connectable rig and 7 rx 580 connected to it, i wanted to add 5 more 580 to complete it, my friend insisted to add 5 1060, and i couldnt decide, also i saw so many people mine 12 rx dual (eth+dcr) and monero by cpu, i think this option s well too. also i dont wanna apart the rig by rx/gtx mix

If you already have 7x RX 580s, I'd recommend you stick with the AMD cards and just get more 580s (or the more power efficient 570s). Adding NVIDIA 1060s to your rig will only give you headaches because 1) you will have driver problems and will have to DDU install and reinstall (AMD drivers don't always play well with NVIDIA depending on your mobo) and 2) you will have to spend more time managing your rig because those cards excel at mining different coins and therefore require different software and configurations.

thank you very much, i thought so but wanted to be sure

have to agree here, complete the farm with amd card and finish it.
but I might give you one more option : build full nvidia rig, 6-8 1060 GB and see for yourself
some coins are better mine with nvidia cards

I was thinking about building a 6 x 1080 Ti build but i might have changed my mind when i started looking deeper into the 1060 cards instead.

I will wait for black friday and see what comes up. I might go 18 x 1060 6Gb instead if i find a good deal on them.

3 x systems in total, each inculding:

Alu frame *
Asrock H81 *
Celeron G1840 *
4GB Ram *
1 x ATX adapter (pci-e to 24pin + sata and molex + CPU power)
6 x powered USB risers (with 6-pin power connector)
6 x Y-Splitter pci-e to 2 x 6+2 pin
6 x GTX 1080 6Gb

* = reused from other builds

1 x powersupply for all rigs including systems:
REV2 – ULTIMATE 2400WATT POWER SUPPLY KIT FOR GPU MINING. 94% PLATINUM EFFICIENCY 200V~240V W/ (32)PCIE PLUGS

PCI-E Plug usage:
Systems: 3
GPU:s + risers: 18

Total power usage: ~1300 - 1800w regarding to what algo that is used. (these numbers are taken from whattomine @ 65%TDP)

Cost:

1 x PSU: 249USD
3 x ATX adapters 180w (160w out of stock) : 147 USD
18 x USB risers: (upgrade from molex ones to 6-pin) 180USD
18 x Y-splitters: 64.62USD
18 x GTX 1060 6Gb: (hopefully around 240 USD on black friday) 4320USD
Shipping: 57USD (to EU)

Total:
5017USD

ROI: ~6 months at the moment
I could shorten this with a few months if i just use regular psu:s that i have left from other builds, but it would be neat to use one psu for all of the rigs.

Note: i have free electricity available

Gear:
https://www.parallelminer.com/product/rev2-ultimate-2400watt-power-supply-kit-for-gpu-mining-94-platinum-efficiency-200v240v-w-32pcie-plugs/
https://www.parallelminer.com/product/180watt-max-24pin-atx-power-module-included-sata-molex-cpu-power-connectors-ditch-your-atx-power-supply-entirely/
https://www.parallelminer.com/product/18awg-pci-e-6pin-to-dual-8-pin-y-splitter-extension-cable-2x-62pin-cable-6in-each-side/
https://www.parallelminer.com/product/ithoo-usb3-0-pci-express-1x-to-16x-extender-riser-card-adapter-w-24-cable/

These are just calculations, but it look pretty good

If you were just starting to build a rig, I would suggest that you should start atleast with 4Gb cards for DAG size consideration. It is projected to increase by mid 2018 so 3Gb cards will be useless, atleast for ethereum. I don't know exactly the ROI for 1060/3g but it is much cheaper by 50$ compared to1060/6G. And if you are techie and lots of spare time, you may want the 580/570. You can lower the electricity consumption by modding the Gapau BIOS. If you just want something like plug and play, go for the 1060.

Gapau BIOS ?

Yes, the main benefits of GTX 1060 as shibob mentioned is more other algorithm options compared to AMD GPU. Otherwise AMD still better in ROI.

1060 cheap cards low power consumption. They are good in their class.
If you get a good price it is a good option to buy one of those.

One of the main reasons most people get GTX 1060 is because of its availability and price compared the RX and other cards. With Ethash, the GTX gives 24.x MHs compared to 27 of the RX (without the BIOS mod). But the GTX consumes much less power than an RX. It does not perform well with the Cryptonight algo (550 H/s vs 750+ H/s) as well. Apart from these two algos, the GTX card performs similar to or better than the RX. AMD cards vanished from the market four months ago when Eth was the most profitable to mine. Now, the profitability of all alt coins is evened out and GTX 1060 strikes a best balance between hashrate and price. I have 2x GTX 1060 and 3X RX480 on the same rig with two 750W PSUs. I can see that the two GTX cards are much more energy efficient.

You'll only get 24.x MH/s from 1060s if they come with Samsung memory. And these days it's becoming a rare sight, more and more of them come with Hynix or Micron. If you get Hynix, then they're basically useless for ETH mining, because at ~ 20 MH/s max you're better off just mining other coins with them.

I have Zotac cards that come with Samsung memory. And Zotac is cheaper than most other brands.

And that's good for you, but there's no guarantee that other 1060s bought from a store today (doesn't matter if they're Zotac or not) will come with Samsung chips. A lot of 1060s lately come with Hynix and Micron memory. Which sucks.

Gtx 1060's (particularly 6gb for longevity for mining ethereum) are great. You can make them just sip on the electricity, and they do equihash really well.

I wouldn't mix AMD and NVidia on the one rig. I've heard from others that drivers can be a real pain.

If electricity costs aren't a concern, AMD is probably the more popular choice for mining ethereum.

No problems whatsoever, quite a few people mix Pascal and Polaris cards and they work just fine together. I did this myself with a couple of rigs. Stories about the "drivers being a real pain" seem to be a myth repeated over and over again by people who haven't ever tried that themselves. :)

I have one open-air rig made from an Ikea bench with three EVGA 1060 3GB SSC edition and one FTW edition.  The three SSCs have the memory overclocked +835MHz in Afterburner.  The FTW only clocks +475MHz.  All four dual mine about 22.5MHETH and 243MH DCR once adjusted in Afterburner.  Whole rig with open air fans uses about 400Ws combined while also running other coins on other components like Burst and a XMR.  All paid off now.  Very happy with the result of this rig.  I should have stocked up with a dozen of these cards in the early spring.

Question: due to the nature of overclockability of the particular units received, they are more suitable for dual mining ETH+Something.  DCR seemed an the popular choice when I started.  Share discovery and market nuances make it hard to determine the best secondary coin alongside ETH.  Are these cards traditionally better with LBRY, PASCAL, or SIA over DCR?  Or is DCR still the best choice?  Thanks.

I take your point - and that's why I included the line that 'Ive heard from others' primarily from people in this forum and reddit, since it isn't actually based on my own mining experience :)

But yes, if in truth it is very straightforward, then yeah the myth should be busted and OP should go for a mix it he gets a good deal!

Your mining plan is so nice! I'm mining ETH+DCR as well, but I even dont think much that I could go further with Burst and XMR.

mining at home you're limited to your electric box. 1060 rigs are low power and are easier to manage on different circuits. also they have very good hash/watts, so it works out better than the higher end cards, you just need more of them. i'd prefer 2 1060's to 1 1070, because it hashes more and costs less.

Try to get AMD cards in the market. That will ansver your question.