Title: Finally, BFL's 25 E. 12th Street, KC, address explained! Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on June 26, 2013, 05:20:40 PM http://businessprofiles.com/details/gregory-w-vleisides-p-c/US-MO-P00257304
Quote GREGORY W. VLEISIDES, P.C. was formed on 1983-10-20 in Missouri by PETER J. KOPPE. FORMATION Universal ID US-MO-P00257304 Name GREGORY W. VLEISIDES, P.C. Registration Number P00257304 Type Professional Corporation Formation Date 1983-10-20 OFFICERS Registered Agent PETER J. KOPPE https://www.sos.mo.gov/BusinessEntity/soskb/corp.asp?214213 Quote Business Name History Name Name Type BUSINESS BROKERS PROFESSIONAL CONSULTANTS, INC. Legal General Business - Domestic - Information Charter Number: 00233440 Status: Forfeited Entity Creation Date: 8/5/1981 State of Business.: MO Expiration Date: Perpetual Last Registration Report Filed Date: Last Registration Report Filed: 0 Registration Report Month: August Registered Agent Agent Name: PETER J. KOPPE, ESQ. Office Address: 25 EAST 12TH STREET-11TH FLOOR KANSAS CITY MO 64106 https://bitpay.com/featured-merchants Quote ButterflyLabs.com 25 E 12th Street Kansas City, MO 64106 Title: Re: Finally, BFL's 25 E. 12th Street, KC, address explained! Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on June 26, 2013, 05:31:06 PM Don't you find it strange that Peter Koppe is associated with the Vleisides clan, and his address was the first used by Butterfly Labs Inc.?
All the pieces are starting to fit together now. Title: Re: Finally, BFL's 25 E. 12th Street, KC, address explained! Post by: Remember remember the 5th of November on June 26, 2013, 05:33:24 PM Don't you find it strange that Peter Koppe is associated with the Vleisides clan, and his address was the first used by Butterfly Labs Inc.? I haven't been following all the BFL shenanigans, what does this mean exactly?All the pieces are starting to fit together now. Title: Re: Finally, BFL's 25 E. 12th Street, KC, address explained! Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on June 26, 2013, 05:59:00 PM Don't you find it strange that Peter Koppe is associated with the Vleisides clan, and his address was the first used by Butterfly Labs Inc.? I haven't been following all the BFL shenanigans, what does this mean exactly?All the pieces are starting to fit together now. Humor me, and pretend this does have meaning, but... Title: Re: Finally, BFL's 25 E. 12th Street, KC, address explained! Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on June 26, 2013, 06:01:00 PM Maybe we should call Peter and see if it has meaning.
Title: Re: Finally, BFL's 25 E. 12th Street, KC, address explained! Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on June 26, 2013, 06:24:22 PM I just tried calling Peter.
http://web.archive.org/web/20020328222408/http://www.pkoppelaw.com/ Quote Peter J. Koppe Attorney-At-Law 6730 NW Tower Drive Platte Woods, Missouri 64151 email: pkoppe@pkoppelaw.com Telephone (816) 587-5300 Pager (816) 346-6466 Fax (816) 587-5336 Family Law, Criminal Defense, Personal Injury, Torts, Traffic Law Peter J. Koppe, born Cincinnati, Ohio, May 3, 1950, admitted to Missouri Bar, 1977, U.S. Supreme Court, 1983 Education: Washington University-St Louis, Mo (A.B. History 1972) University of Missouri-Kansas City (J.D. 1977) Member: Northland Optimist Club, Kansas City, 1980 Governor, West Mo. District, Optimist Internation, 1988-89, Chairman, Developmental Disabilities Board, Clay County, Mo, 1994, Member 1992-94 But he no longer uses that number...because... http://ssdmf.info/by_birthdate/19500503.html Quote PETER J KOPPE was born 03 May 1950, got Social Security number 500-52-2226 (indicating Missouri,) and died 06 July 2006. I guess I'll just add him to the list currently containing Sonny K. and Ninja Lady. Soon, they're be as many on this list as there are on a similar list related to Laissez Faire City. Maybe Sonny K. and NL can be found below the same bridge that two founders of LFC used to end it all. Title: Re: Finally, BFL's 25 E. 12th Street, KC, address explained! Post by: BitSmile on June 26, 2013, 07:14:31 PM Title: Re: Finally, BFL's 25 E. 12th Street, KC, address explained! Post by: davout on June 26, 2013, 07:17:37 PM Title: Re: Finally, BFL's 25 E. 12th Street, KC, address explained! Post by: Remember remember the 5th of November on June 26, 2013, 07:53:21 PM I remember this game
http://imgur.com/tCp90.gif Title: Re: Finally, BFL's 25 E. 12th Street, KC, address explained! Post by: Este Nuno on June 26, 2013, 08:26:25 PM Wasn't laissez faire city just one massive scam that took advantage of deluded libertarians?
Title: Re: Finally, BFL's 25 E. 12th Street, KC, address explained! Post by: greyhawk on June 26, 2013, 08:28:41 PM Wasn't laissez faire city just one massive scam that took advantage of deluded libertarians? That's pretty much the impression I got from it. But with that kind of libertarians you never know, they might actually have believed it. Kinda like BFL believed they can deliver an ASIC in 2 months. Title: Re: Finally, BFL's 25 E. 12th Street, KC, address explained! Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on June 27, 2013, 01:42:22 AM Wasn't laissez faire city just one massive scam that took advantage of deluded libertarians? That's pretty much the impression I got from it. But with that kind of libertarians you never know, they might actually have believed it. Kinda like BFL believed they can deliver an ASIC in 2 months. You're damn right they believe it. Read the following account, with apologies for the cached link, for the site has blocked my IP: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:DUTIv88KsJIJ:community.netidea.com/echan/lfcity.htm+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us Quote Best minds' is no hyperbole. Just look over their Laissez Faire City Times newspaper on line and gauge for yourself what formidable intellects roam LF City's precincts. And such fun people too! Now THAT is the point! Returning to their home countries, over the year-end holidays of 1994, the group communicated by fax, telephone and e-mail to debate the process and actualize the founding verbiage. They employed lawyers and trustees to carry out their resolve. Accumulated grant moneys were turned over to the new trustee; and the attorneys subsequently recorded the founding trust documents at the public registrar of two separate internationally recognized jurisdictions. The Laissez Faire City International Trust was formalized on January 1, 1995. And the four travelers all decided to put their money where their mouths were by becoming founding grantors of Laissez Faire City and two of them leapt off a bridge just to seal it in style. As I hung there dangling above the river still 100 feet below I reflected that an existing founder had jumped FIRST. Now how many businesses have that kind of chutzpah? Look at what they have to offer and decide for yourself.... The new founders where Sonny Vleisides and his Daddy-O, Jame Ray Houston, known as Rex Rogers to all those who paid the $6,000 membership fee to join. The lottery scheme started at the same time. Title: Re: Finally, BFL's 25 E. 12th Street, KC, address explained! Post by: meowmeowbrowncow on June 27, 2013, 04:10:00 AM Wasn't laissez faire city just one massive scam that took advantage of deluded libertarians? That's pretty much the impression I got from it. But with that kind of libertarians you never know, they might actually have believed it. Kinda like BFL believed they can deliver an ASIC in 2 months. You're damn right they believe it. Read the following account, with apologies for the cached link, for the site has blocked my IP: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:DUTIv88KsJIJ:community.netidea.com/echan/lfcity.htm+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us Quote Best minds' is no hyperbole. Just look over their Laissez Faire City Times newspaper on line and gauge for yourself what formidable intellects roam LF City's precincts. And such fun people too! Now THAT is the point! Returning to their home countries, over the year-end holidays of 1994, the group communicated by fax, telephone and e-mail to debate the process and actualize the founding verbiage. They employed lawyers and trustees to carry out their resolve. Accumulated grant moneys were turned over to the new trustee; and the attorneys subsequently recorded the founding trust documents at the public registrar of two separate internationally recognized jurisdictions. The Laissez Faire City International Trust was formalized on January 1, 1995. And the four travelers all decided to put their money where their mouths were by becoming founding grantors of Laissez Faire City and two of them leapt off a bridge just to seal it in style. As I hung there dangling above the river still 100 feet below I reflected that an existing founder had jumped FIRST. Now how many businesses have that kind of chutzpah? Look at what they have to offer and decide for yourself.... The new founders where Sonny Vleisides and his Daddy-O, Jame Ray Houston, known as Rex Rogers to all those who paid the $6,000 membership fee to join. The lottery scheme started at the same time. I'm starting to wonder if Libertarianism should carry the same negative connotation as the word dogma. i.e. I don't follow the Title: Re: Finally, BFL's 25 E. 12th Street, KC, address explained! Post by: Este Nuno on June 27, 2013, 08:26:05 PM As far as I know, the guy who ran LFC(James Ray Houston) was a renowned professional con artist. The parts that I've read almost seem almost unbelievable. With people just random wiring thousands of dollars to Europe to become members of this imaginary city, lol.
Title: Re: Finally, BFL's 25 E. 12th Street, KC, address explained! Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on June 28, 2013, 12:18:34 AM As far as I know, the guy who ran LFC(James Ray Houston) was a renowned professional con artist. The parts that I've read almost seem almost unbelievable. With people just random wiring thousands of dollars to Europe to become members of this imaginary city, lol. In your readings, did you get to the part yet that Sonny Vleisides of BFL is his real son? Title: Re: Finally, BFL's 25 E. 12th Street, KC, address explained! Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on June 28, 2013, 12:53:55 AM As far as I know, the guy who ran LFC(James Ray Houston) was a renowned professional con artist. The parts that I've read almost seem almost unbelievable. With people just random wiring thousands of dollars to Europe to become members of this imaginary city, lol. In your readings, did you get to the part yet that Sonny Vleisides of BFL is his real son? Once you get up to speed, then... http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/privacy1/message/43 Quote By the way, I mentioned Laissez Faire City soem time ago in a post. Well, I went to see them the other day, and it really looks like they are both legitimate and they have their act together and they have substantial backing, just like I was told. I spent a wonderful afternoon talking to the City Clerk last week, and they have a lot to offer all of us at a very fair price. Plus, you can also have a home base at the embassy when you visit Costa rica. I know that much scepticism is created due to the internet's impersonality. We simply type in messages and prepare web pages, but unless you meet the people involved, it's sometimes easy to jump to hasty conclusions. Well, that's what I did a few months ago, as some of you recall, concerning this project. Their new stock market is supposed to be online in a couple of months, and they are working as fast as they can to redesign their web pages, but I can tell you that this is not a rip off. These peple have a very impressive headquarters in one of the nicest, if not the nicest, neighborhoods in Costa Rica, and they have other freedom loving individuals living in that same neighborhood. In fact, I hope to move over there in a month or two. They have lots of innovative services which I hope to tell you about over the next couple of months. It's just too bad all of you can't just pick up and move down here. However, they have plans to start communiites of like minded people all over the world. Anyway, enough on that for now. I'll give you more details as I learn more and visit them again. They are clear on the other side of town now, so the most I could go there is a couple of times a month, but it sure will be enjoyable. John Highlighted above, the City Clerk was...wait for it (as if you didn't already know)...Sonny Vleisides, the CEO/President of BFL. The author is John Allen who is Robert Demes. Some people have a hard time giving up their sock puppets. http://costaricaeasy.net/profile-264/ Quote John Allen Hi all. I'm new here and looking around. Certainly hope this board catches on. I've been here for 17 years this week, so I can certainly answer many questions. The best advice I'd give is to sit b... View More August 13, 2012 5:30 pm · Rebecca Demes -Bolanos likes this. View all 3 comments Robert Demes Robert DemesAugust is almost always the best month for Bill Fish in Guanacaste due to the migration for spawning! Roosters are inshore, lot's fun - big fight and always there - live bait is best if you want a Big One! http://web.archive.org/web/19990219092344/http://www.destiny-worldwide.net/free/ Quote This The Real Libertarian Webring site is owned by John Allen http://www.privacy.li/forum/viewtopic.php?t=237 Quote John Allen (the rumor has it that his real name is Robert Demes) who has specialised to scalp expats in Costa Rica, at http://www.destiny-worldwide.net/ Title: Re: Finally, BFL's 25 E. 12th Street, KC, address explained! Post by: BitSmile on June 28, 2013, 03:07:14 AM Wait a moment:
Ashish Gulhati's Overview Current Chief Developer at Neomailbox Owner at Netropolis Technologies Past Senior Developer at Laissez Faire City Webmaster at The American Reporter Columnist, Technology Journalist at CyberMedia -------------------------------------------------- So does this conflict with your theory that hashish gulhati is Satoshi? Title: Re: Finally, BFL's 25 E. 12th Street, KC, address explained! Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on June 28, 2013, 03:15:05 AM Wait a moment: Ashish Gulhati's Overview Current Chief Developer at Neomailbox Owner at Netropolis Technologies Past Senior Developer at Laissez Faire City Webmaster at The American Reporter Columnist, Technology Journalist at CyberMedia -------------------------------------------------- So does this conflict with your theory that hashish gulhati is Satoshi? Au contraire! Title: Re: Finally, BFL's 25 E. 12th Street, KC, address explained! Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on June 28, 2013, 03:23:02 AM Quote of the day: http://mail.kycnews.com/Forums.aspx?boardid=cgjmygzefcab&g=posts&page=-1&t=35302
Quote Posted: 7/10/2001 12:11:42 PM By: El Guacamole Seems like about every scam artist under the sun has used, promoted, or been involved with "Laissez Faire City" over the years -- draw from that what you want. Title: Re: Finally, BFL's 25 E. 12th Street, KC, address explained! Post by: Este Nuno on June 28, 2013, 03:27:52 PM As far as I know, the guy who ran LFC(James Ray Houston) was a renowned professional con artist. The parts that I've read almost seem almost unbelievable. With people just random wiring thousands of dollars to Europe to become members of this imaginary city, lol. In your readings, did you get to the part yet that Sonny Vleisides of BFL is his real son? Yes I did. And I'm surprised that Sonny talks about LFC like it was some real project that his father was the creator of as opposed to a scam. Title: Re: Finally, BFL's 25 E. 12th Street, KC, address explained! Post by: legitnick on June 28, 2013, 05:55:16 PM http://businessprofiles.com/details/gregory-w-vleisides-p-c/US-MO-P00257304 Quote GREGORY W. VLEISIDES, P.C. was formed on 1983-10-20 in Missouri by PETER J. KOPPE. FORMATION Universal ID US-MO-P00257304 Name GREGORY W. VLEISIDES, P.C. Registration Number P00257304 Type Professional Corporation Formation Date 1983-10-20 OFFICERS Registered Agent PETER J. KOPPE https://www.sos.mo.gov/BusinessEntity/soskb/corp.asp?214213 Quote Business Name History Name Name Type BUSINESS BROKERS PROFESSIONAL CONSULTANTS, INC. Legal General Business - Domestic - Information Charter Number: 00233440 Status: Forfeited Entity Creation Date: 8/5/1981 State of Business.: MO Expiration Date: Perpetual Last Registration Report Filed Date: Last Registration Report Filed: 0 Registration Report Month: August Registered Agent Agent Name: PETER J. KOPPE, ESQ. Office Address: 25 EAST 12TH STREET-11TH FLOOR KANSAS CITY MO 64106 https://bitpay.com/featured-merchants Quote ButterflyLabs.com 25 E 12th Street Kansas City, MO 64106 There is definitly something up with BFL. I bet a large percentage of preorders will never recieve what the ordered. |