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Title: Can BTC be blocked by government ?
Post by: fabrizeo on November 23, 2017, 06:08:54 AM
Hello,

I am reading a lot on the internet about the fact that Bitcoin is not stoppable as not centralized.

However what would happen if a government decision to implement DPI blocking of Bitcoin protocol?

Seems it is fairly easy for a government to do so at ISP level... On top of it exchange could be blocked with a firewall on top of all others kinds of bitcoin forum etc...

Thanks for your opinion.


Title: Re: Can BTC be blocked by government ?
Post by: Emoclaw on November 23, 2017, 06:15:55 AM
It can't. There are many nodes that Bitcoin has, more than what sites like coin.dance say and it's impossible to find them, let alone block all of them.
They could attempt to ruin Bitcoin's quality of service by blocking exchanges, forums and web wallets, but people would still be able to use it and they'd find a way to do all of these things.

It's also important to note that any ISP blockages can be circumvented by using a VPN, thus it wouldn't even be remotely effective.
The only way to stop Bitcoin is by not using the Internet at all, like North Korea does.


Title: Re: Can BTC be blocked by government ?
Post by: BY_ATOM on November 23, 2017, 06:20:37 AM
In fact to block bitcoin completely, you need to disable the Internet. That in fact in today's world is not possible)


Title: Re: Can BTC be blocked by government ?
Post by: LancienMaleAlpha on November 24, 2017, 05:56:41 AM
If ISP block wallet and exchanges services, people would still be able to use TOR or proxy services to access them. So I may say that's impossible until govs block the whole Web.


Title: Re: Can BTC be blocked by government ?
Post by: D3m1r4wanti on November 24, 2017, 06:00:34 AM
it could be a government of a country blocking bitcoin for its own country environment, but the government can not block the bitcoin distribution in other countries so the bitcoiner can still trade its bitcoin in other countries


Title: Re: Can BTC be blocked by government ?
Post by: endlasuresh on November 24, 2017, 06:03:07 AM
Only Scam Govt's do such decision however if any govt did, then use proxies that is the best solution for accessing wallets. China banned recently and again China open new coin, allows bitcoin, etc all these fake news. I suggest you to need not worry about these things as it itself can clear everywhere.

Bitcoin is Strong now with more members from worldwide and a lot of blockchains are occupying everywhere.


Title: Re: Can BTC be blocked by government ?
Post by: freebutcaged on November 24, 2017, 06:04:02 AM
Mate if ISPs want to block Bitcoin from their end, they could do that but do you think every ISP would do the same? do you even know how the whole

Internet works? Us government does not control the whole internet, even if the whole world decides to block Bitcoin, you can use torrent, if they allow

For a satellite launch, you can connect to satellite for any thing.


Title: Re: Can BTC be blocked by government ?
Post by: Herbert2020 on November 24, 2017, 06:04:06 AM
first of all since not all the government of the whole world are going to do something like this, bitcoin won't be blocked. in other words there are currently so many countries that have adopted bitcoin with open arms and legalized it that even if some governments decide to block bitcoin it won't matter.

However what would happen if a government decision to implement DPI blocking of Bitcoin protocol?
DPI is only when your packets are encrypted such as when you use VPNs. bitcoin uses no encryption for communication. it is all performed over simple HTTP protocols.
and there are things they can block but they can not block bitcoin usage completely, things like that would only make running a node harder not impossible. and they don't do anything to bitcoin usage. you can always sign your transactions offline and broadcast them by opening a website like this https://blockchain.info/pushtx with a public SSL proxy and pushing it through their service!!! free and easy.

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On top of it exchange could be blocked with a firewall on top of all others kinds of bitcoin forum etc...
exchanges are third parties that  can be blocked, yes. but it would be like blocking a website. you can always use a VPN to access them!!!


Title: Re: Can BTC be blocked by government ?
Post by: Oliver A on November 24, 2017, 06:06:44 AM
If a government decides to make trading or possessing Bitcoins illegal, questions will be raised about how exactly it will enforce such a ban. It is impossible for a government to seize your Bitcoins, unless you decide to handover your private keys. However, the majority of citizens and institutions like to stay on the right side of the law. So the demand for Bitcoin would plummet if the government decided to ban it. All exchanges in that country would also be shuttered and buying/selling Bitcoin would be difficult and risky. This would suffocate Bitcoin in that country and the government’s objectives might be achieved.


Title: Re: Can BTC be blocked by government ?
Post by: d0flaming0 on November 24, 2017, 06:09:02 AM
personally if you prefer saying banning bitcoin in a certain county, yes they can, that's the least they can do, not only to control the regulation of bitcoin and transactions, but for them also to secure safely that nobody would dare to disobey the law. it is also possible that they can totally ban bitcoin and use it for their own goods, because they had the power to implement and use their position to make advantage of the situation, but its not that I am badmouthing the government, but everything is possible within their powers.


Title: Re: Can BTC be blocked by government ?
Post by: Dreamr on November 24, 2017, 06:12:29 AM
No, because bitcoin is not control by the government. Bitcoin is peer to peer electronic currency that is fast and decentralized, it's owned and controlled by the people around the world not just one country. Government will only impose local restrictions which you can bypass it with simple vpn.


Title: Re: Can BTC be blocked by government ?
Post by: kueyen on November 24, 2017, 06:12:46 AM
A government may not be able to ban bitcoin completely, but can make it very hard to use it. It can just outright ban exchange sites, for example. You could still get your hands on some bitcoin through different means (VPN, proxy etc.) but it would be an additional step that would make your life harder.

Something worse that they can do is to declare the money you make off of bitcoin illegal, so even if you had thousands of bitcoins, you wouldn't be able to legally cash out and bring the money into the system (especially large amounts), because the government would eventually ask you where the money is coming from and you wouldn't be able to answer.


Title: Re: Can BTC be blocked by government ?
Post by: sofi@ on November 24, 2017, 06:22:54 AM
It would be difficult for the government to just blocked site for bitcoin transactions because of the fact that it only needs internet connection to access bitcoin the only way government to prevent it is by stopping internet connection which at this point is very impossible to do. This mainly the reason why until now government cannot settle the issue regarding legality of bitcoin.


Title: Re: Can BTC be blocked by government ?
Post by: estanislao1994 on November 24, 2017, 06:29:22 AM
It would be quite impossible for the government to block bitcoin. As per China, bitcoin is banned by the government however there are some civilians from China that makes way to have access to bitcoin. They have alibaba that offers the same payment as bitcoin being an online system payment. Bitcoin is slowly going upwards in the market and ofcourse individuals would not want to miss the opportunity to increase their revenue.


Title: Re: Can BTC be blocked by government ?
Post by: bakunawaaa on November 24, 2017, 08:51:02 AM
They cannot block it. The only way is to shut down the entire internet. All they can do is ban the exchanges tradimg them as well as businesses legally accepting them. With the use of vpns the government's moves to even block exchanges proved to be futile.


Title: Re: Can BTC be blocked by government ?
Post by: andreyalucas on November 24, 2017, 11:49:46 AM
No, because bitcoin is not control by the government. Bitcoin is peer to peer electronic currency that is fast and decentralized, it's owned and controlled by the people around the world not just one country. Government will only impose local restrictions which you can bypass it with simple vpn.
Yes, you are right.I completely agreed with your argument. The bitcoin is not controlling the government.


Title: Re: Can BTC be blocked by government ?
Post by: markdario112616 on November 24, 2017, 11:58:38 AM
Literally speaking no, The government can't block it. As far as I see, The Government can only block websites related to Bitcoin no more no less but in this era, Proxy server and VPN are so accessible even though they blocked it's useless. There are a lot of transactions in a day, how can a Government track it and interfere with it? No matter how hard the Government work and try, the progression of Bitcoin is unstoppable.


Title: Re: Can BTC be blocked by government ?
Post by: Attaman on November 24, 2017, 12:00:51 PM
They can disable the sites you use to download the wallets and close some exchanges. So it can be blocked and they have the right to do something like this.

Bitcoin is used for a lot of things and the hackers uses it to store their stolen money.


Title: Re: Can BTC be blocked by government ?
Post by: btcjocan on November 24, 2017, 12:08:24 PM
In fact to block bitcoin completely, you need to disable the Internet. That in fact in today's world is not possible)


I agree with you. It is so impossible for the government to block bitcoin because they need to communicate with other countries government. Maybe they can ban bitcoin, but they can never block it fully or completely because there are a lot of people who will oppose it and worst, will do some rallies against the government if that would definitely happen.


Title: Re: Can BTC be blocked by government ?
Post by: subSTRATA on November 24, 2017, 12:15:19 PM
It can't. There are many nodes that Bitcoin has, more than what sites like coin.dance say and it's impossible to find them, let alone block all of them.
They could attempt to ruin Bitcoin's quality of service by blocking exchanges, forums and web wallets, but people would still be able to use it and they'd find a way to do all of these things.

It's also important to note that any ISP blockages can be circumvented by using a VPN, thus it wouldn't even be remotely effective.
The only way to stop Bitcoin is by not using the Internet at all, like North Korea does.
technically, if the government had full authority over the internet, they could in act block traffic to and from the bitcoin network. we all depend on a isp to provide us internet access, and these companies are able to control what traffic we can and can't access. and in a relevant statement to the current events (in the states at least), if net neutrality were to be repealed, these companies could block bitcoin network traffic from its users if it wanted to, or give users the option of paying a premium to access this 'feature.' and while your statement on the subject of vpn's holds true, it is possible for the isp to block all traffic tunneled through the vpn, rendering that option useless.


Title: Re: Can BTC be blocked by government ?
Post by: ladydark on November 24, 2017, 12:28:47 PM
If it had been possible,china government would have done it much before to block bitcoin completely in its country.But it has tried to do it step by step by first banning ICOs,then implying very strict regulations against bitcoin exchanges and now trying to issue a new coin wechat.Same is the case with russia.But in china,people still trade bitcoins in countersales with people directly.

SO,bitcoin could not be completely blocked by governments.


Title: Re: Can BTC be blocked by government ?
Post by: KizaruOG on November 24, 2017, 12:33:54 PM
SO,bitcoin could not be completely blocked by governments.

They didnt even tried to block btc. They can do a lot of things, all major internet providers can implement just few filters and you wont be able to see any btc node. Who got the blockchain's satellite equip atm?


Title: Re: Can BTC be blocked by government ?
Post by: subSTRATA on November 24, 2017, 12:43:51 PM
If it had been possible,china government would have done it much before to block bitcoin completely in its country.But it has tried to do it step by step by first banning ICOs,then implying very strict regulations against bitcoin exchanges and now trying to issue a new coin wechat.Same is the case with russia.But in china,people still trade bitcoins in countersales with people directly.

SO,bitcoin could not be completely blocked by governments.
the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. i've outlined how it could be accomplished in my previous post right before yours. i dont think china wants to ban cryptocurrencies outright, if anything, i think the chinese regime would want to find a means to control the cryptocurrency market above an outright ban. with bitcoin and cryptos in general on the rise, it only makes sense that any degree of control over the system puts a group at a pretty serious position of power, maybe even one that could give them enough influence to benefit greatly if cryptocurrencies take off even further. besides, if they wanted to ban bitcoin, it's a simple matter for the government to write legislation outright banning the use and possession of crpyocurrencies; they wouldn't have to be so roundabout by banning ico's and imposing regulations.


Title: Re: Can BTC be blocked by government ?
Post by: Godric-Gryffindor on November 24, 2017, 01:08:39 PM
If government block Bitcoin on ISP level bitcoiner will have no choice but to use VPN and other IP changing software to use bitcoin online, Regulations is more good, But Blocking Bitcoin thats funny.


Title: Re: Can BTC be blocked by government ?
Post by: nick_nick on November 24, 2017, 01:28:12 PM
Hello,

I am reading a lot on the internet about the fact that Bitcoin is not stoppable as not centralized.

However what would happen if a government decision to implement DPI blocking of Bitcoin protocol?

Seems it is fairly easy for a government to do so at ISP level... On top of it exchange could be blocked with a firewall on top of all others kinds of bitcoin forum etc...

Thanks for your opinion.
Eventhough certain legislation can be passed by governments to suppress Bitcoin trending, it would be extremely difficult to be completely eradicated by any government. This is because ISP blockages can still be eluded via the use of VPN and satellite


Title: Re: Can BTC be blocked by government ?
Post by: BlackPanda on November 24, 2017, 01:28:49 PM
Hello,

I am reading a lot on the internet about the fact that Bitcoin is not stoppable as not centralized.

However what would happen if a government decision to implement DPI blocking of Bitcoin protocol?

Seems it is fairly easy for a government to do so at ISP level... On top of it exchange could be blocked with a firewall on top of all others kinds of bitcoin forum etc...

Thanks for your opinion.
It is indeed a very possible thing to happen. The government has a fairly sophisticated technology and can do anything with the existing network protocols in the country. but I also believe that we all have the power and also technology that can fool the government, With today's technology we can easily do network manipulation and this can make Bitcoin stick, we can all do anything with Bitcoin and we are free to do various transactions .


Title: Re: Can BTC be blocked by government ?
Post by: KizaruOG on November 24, 2017, 01:31:54 PM
If government block Bitcoin on ISP level bitcoiner will have no choice but to use VPN and other IP changing software to use bitcoin online, Regulations is more good, But Blocking Bitcoin thats funny.
ip changing and vpn? Lol, thats not how they will try to block btc traffic.


Title: Re: Can BTC be blocked by government ?
Post by: poletando on November 24, 2017, 01:32:37 PM
i think government can't block the bitcoin because bitcoin have many node on it, i think government just can give the restriction to using or making transaction with bitcoin also block all website that have related with bitcoin


Title: Re: Can BTC be blocked by government ?
Post by: cloudbleron18 on November 24, 2017, 01:37:00 PM
Hello,

I am reading a lot on the internet about the fact that Bitcoin is not stoppable as not centralized.

However what would happen if a government decision to implement DPI blocking of Bitcoin protocol?

Seems it is fairly easy for a government to do so at ISP level... On top of it exchange could be blocked with a firewall on top of all others kinds of bitcoin forum etc...

Thanks for your opinion.
i think its not if they no how much important bitcoin but if they don't want to obsolescent their own country they can ban bitcoin otherwise not all countries government want to banned bitcoin like my country


Title: Re: Can BTC be blocked by government ?
Post by: SerioGiocatore on November 24, 2017, 01:38:23 PM
They can't block bitcoin, they can only block the websites where you can use, buy and trade bitcoins.


Title: Re: Can BTC be blocked by government ?
Post by: honeyb0y on November 24, 2017, 01:41:44 PM
IT is impossible for a government to stop the block chain as it doesn't have any specific server to be blocked, unlike a website if government decided to stop it they can just block it's IP to be accessed. 


Title: Re: Can BTC be blocked by government ?
Post by: AliMan on November 24, 2017, 01:43:39 PM
It can't. There are many nodes that Bitcoin has, more than what sites like coin.dance say and it's impossible to find them, let alone block all of them.
They could attempt to ruin Bitcoin's quality of service by blocking exchanges, forums and web wallets, but people would still be able to use it and they'd find a way to do all of these things.

It's also important to note that any ISP blockages can be circumvented by using a VPN, thus it wouldn't even be remotely effective.
The only way to stop Bitcoin is by not using the Internet at all, like North Korea does.

If the government blocked wallet and exchange services, Well i say to you that we can still access them. If we will use TOR or VPN that hides our IP, We can access them. The only thing to do is to disable the internet service. But no one will trying to disable it. In other words, Government will not be able to block wallet and exchange services here in bitcoin world.


Title: Re: Can BTC be blocked by government ?
Post by: Kelvinid on November 24, 2017, 01:50:06 PM
IT is impossible for a government to stop the block chain as it doesn't have any specific server to be blocked, unlike a website if government decided to stop it they can just block it's IP to be accessed. 
Right.It would be impossible for the government to block BTC since this is not a centralized system.They would really find it hard to stop us from having access to bitcoin because we know exactly what bitcoin had done to our lives the most positive way.


Title: Re: Can BTC be blocked by government ?
Post by: NRF on November 24, 2017, 03:31:17 PM
Bitcoin is created from Blockchain technology. They can be removed or changed by anyone. However, government can damage by block exchanges or ICO activities


Title: Re: Can BTC be blocked by government ?
Post by: BitcoinSniper on November 27, 2017, 10:32:57 PM
It is so impossible for the government to block bitcoin because they need to communicate with other countries government. Maybe they can ban bitcoin, but they can never block it fully or completely because there are a lot of people who will oppose it and worst, will do some rallies against the government if that would definitely happen.


Title: Re: Can BTC be blocked by government ?
Post by: yoseph on November 27, 2017, 10:41:55 PM
Bitcoin is created from Blockchain technology. They can be removed or changed by anyone. However, government can damage by block exchanges or ICO activities
The best thing that the government can do to bitcoin is to ban it and there is no where that they can block it or stop people from mining it. So it's a null effort and there is nothing that they can do about it.


Title: Re: Can BTC be blocked by government ?
Post by: semutracing on November 27, 2017, 10:42:45 PM
Hello,

I am reading a lot on the internet about the fact that Bitcoin is not stoppable as not centralized.

However what would happen if a government decision to implement DPI blocking of Bitcoin protocol?

Seems it is fairly easy for a government to do so at ISP level... On top of it exchange could be blocked with a firewall on top of all others kinds of bitcoin forum etc...

Thanks for your opinion.

block bitcoin? I think it can not, because bitcoin is the virtual currency, which circulation through internet network, so if it will block the bitcoin the government must shut down the country's internet network


Title: Re: Can BTC be blocked by government ?
Post by: Saveplus on November 27, 2017, 10:46:38 PM
I think they cannot block as long we cannot do anything and affect everybody we need an internet and our community need that also.Internet connection is very important in our lifestyle now so the cannot control to blocked bitcoin maybe for banned bitcoin .


Title: Re: Can BTC be blocked by government ?
Post by: dawidt on November 27, 2017, 11:02:30 PM
ban bitcoin if possible but you can easy skip it.
worse could be banning local market in your country, money transfer (elixir) from other country market isn't cheap and could be watching by gov.


Title: Re: Can BTC be blocked by government ?
Post by: Vaculin on November 27, 2017, 11:03:02 PM
It can't. There are many nodes that Bitcoin has, more than what sites like coin.dance say and it's impossible to find them, let alone block all of them.
They could attempt to ruin Bitcoin's quality of service by blocking exchanges, forums and web wallets, but people would still be able to use it and they'd find a way to do all of these things.

It's also important to note that any ISP blockages can be circumvented by using a VPN, thus it wouldn't even be remotely effective.
The only way to stop Bitcoin is by not using the Internet at all, like North Korea does.

If the government blocked wallet and exchange services, Well i say to you that we can still access them. If we will use TOR or VPN that hides our IP, We can access them. The only thing to do is to disable the internet service. But no one will trying to disable it. In other words, Government will not be able to block wallet and exchange services here in bitcoin world.
If they will also disable the internet connections,lot of agencies will be affected too.So they can't block bitcoin at all or else they will only face lot of problems if they continue to find ways on blocking BTC.After all BTC has done so much help to the people of the government by increasing their economic status.


Title: Re: Can BTC be blocked by government ?
Post by: Shamie1002 on November 27, 2017, 11:59:36 PM
In fact to block bitcoin completely, you need to disable the Internet. That in fact in today's world is not possible)

I agree. Technology is a part of our daily lives today especially the internet. Good Communication leads to good ideas and with good combination of ideas there are good result. I believe that bitcoin is a great product of technology and good ideas.
This creation will only be turned down by turning off the internet which even the government will think that it is not a wise thing to do.


Title: Re: Can BTC be blocked by government ?
Post by: reck1ess on November 28, 2017, 12:13:45 AM
No, bitcoin is everywhere in the web. And the only way the government can stop bitcoin is to disable the internet.


Title: Re: Can BTC be blocked by government ?
Post by: josephpogi on November 28, 2017, 12:19:57 AM
Hello,

I am reading a lot on the internet about the fact that Bitcoin is not stoppable as not centralized.

However what would happen if a government decision to implement DPI blocking of Bitcoin protocol?

Seems it is fairly easy for a government to do so at ISP level... On top of it exchange could be blocked with a firewall on top of all others kinds of bitcoin forum etc...

Thanks for your opinion.
Maybe? Thats why some goverment hate this because they said that this bitcoin is only a fraud and goverment have a fear that someday bitcoin will replace all banks because bitcoin is better than banks and so fast .


Title: Re: Can BTC be blocked by government ?
Post by: monomix on November 28, 2017, 12:53:11 AM
if it blocks internet i guess. otherwise to put legal regulations to restrict curculation...


Title: Re: Can BTC be blocked by government ?
Post by: whitemacna on January 15, 2018, 12:48:37 PM
I think first of all,the government can not block the btc because all the projects or papers go through so that bitcoin can legally be used anywhere in the world


Title: Re: Can BTC be blocked by government ?
Post by: drwhobox on January 15, 2018, 01:01:56 PM
Hello,

I am reading a lot on the internet about the fact that Bitcoin is not stoppable as not centralized.

However what would happen if a government decision to implement DPI blocking of Bitcoin protocol?

Seems it is fairly easy for a government to do so at ISP level... On top of it exchange could be blocked with a firewall on top of all others kinds of bitcoin forum etc...

Thanks for your opinion.
They have the power to block Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies as well but, as long as there would be people supporting Bitcoin they cant stop it. Some countries are trying to block BTC in their countries still people are trading BTC.