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Title: Ed Snowden, NSA, and fairy tales a child could see through Post by: Severian on June 27, 2013, 04:26:26 PM http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iy1hP6F5i98
Written text: Quote http://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2013/06/25/ed-snowden-nsa-and-fairy-tales-a-child-could-see-through/ But this agency, with all its vast power and its dollars… Can’t track one of its own, a man who came to work every day, a man who made up a story about needing treatment in Hong Kong for epilepsy and then skipped the country. Just can’t find him. Can’t find him in Hong Kong, where he does a sit-down video interview with Glenn Greenwald of The Guardian. Can’t find that “safe house” or that “hotel” where he’s staying. No. Can’t find him or spy on his communications while he’s in Hong Kong. Can’t figure out he’s booked a flight to Russia. Can’t intercept him at the airport before he leaves for Russia . Too difficult. Title: Re: Ed Snowden, NSA, and fairy tales a child could see through Post by: Lethn on June 27, 2013, 04:54:03 PM That youtube video is giving the NSA way too much credit :D
Title: Re: Ed Snowden, NSA, and fairy tales a child could see through Post by: Severian on June 27, 2013, 06:00:33 PM That youtube video is giving the NSA way too much credit :D They deserve a little credit. They're the largest spynest in the world and perhaps in history. I don't overemphasize their sway but one should never underestimate them either. Title: Re: Ed Snowden, NSA, and fairy tales a child could see through Post by: Rassah on June 27, 2013, 08:27:49 PM They're the NSA, not the CIA. They spy, and collect info, and masturbate while listening to our phone calls, not actually go out and do stuff.
Title: Re: Ed Snowden, NSA, and fairy tales a child could see through Post by: Spendulus on June 27, 2013, 09:15:10 PM That youtube video is giving the NSA way too much credit :D They deserve a little credit. They're the largest spynest in the world and perhaps in history. I don't overemphasize their sway but one should never underestimate them either. Just a note. Largest has no meaning when used in conjunction with phrases like "intelligence" or "human intelligence". It doesn't mean "smart" or "clever". It could arguably mean quite the reverse. It could be another High Technology Border Fence. Title: Re: Ed Snowden, NSA, and fairy tales a child could see through Post by: Severian on June 27, 2013, 09:38:22 PM They're the NSA, not the CIA. They spy, and collect info, and masturbate while listening to our phone calls, not actually go out and do stuff. We don't know what they do, actually. As the NSA claims to not be bound by law, it's difficult to get a handle on a secret, lawless organization. Title: Re: Ed Snowden, NSA, and fairy tales a child could see through Post by: Severian on June 27, 2013, 09:40:21 PM Just a note. Largest has no meaning when used in conjunction with phrases like "intelligence" or "human intelligence". It doesn't mean "smart" or "clever". I still have the same respect for them that I'd have for a rattlesnake in my path: I'm smarter than the snake but it still has potential to do great damage. Title: Re: Ed Snowden, NSA, and fairy tales a child could see through Post by: justusranvier on June 28, 2013, 03:10:40 AM They spy, and collect info, and masturbate while listening to our phone calls, not actually go out and do stuff. http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/410450/security-breach (http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/410450/security-breach)Title: Re: Ed Snowden, NSA, and fairy tales a child could see through Post by: DiamondCardz on June 28, 2013, 08:54:26 AM They're the NSA, not the CIA. They spy, and collect info, and masturbate while listening to our phone calls, not actually go out and do stuff. Lmfao, brilliant, and so true. Title: Re: Ed Snowden, NSA, and fairy tales a child could see through Post by: uhnonamiss on June 29, 2013, 05:05:54 AM true true
Title: Re: Ed Snowden, NSA, and fairy tales a child could see through Post by: Galahad on June 29, 2013, 03:01:20 PM Always overestimate their capabilities and they will never succeed, underestimate them and you allow them to catch up.
Title: Re: Ed Snowden, NSA, and fairy tales a child could see through Post by: Spendulus on June 29, 2013, 04:01:46 PM Always overestimate their capabilities and they will never succeed, underestimate them and you allow them to catch up. Yeah, but WHO???? Let's recap, the NSA supposedly court ordered datasets from big Internet companies. I betcha over those extended periods of time during which data moved to the NSA, fair amounts of money went to the Internet companies for the work and trouble and sort-of-payoffs. Who else bought your data that you don't know about? A) The US government tells Google to hand over all the personal data of US and foreign people to it. B) France (insert your choice of country here) tells Google to hand over all the personal data of French citizens and foreigners to it. No difference, right? And in each case the corporation is bound by secrecy laws of the country it operates in. And in each case, money passes between the hands. Title: Re: Ed Snowden, NSA, and fairy tales a child could see through Post by: benjamindees on June 30, 2013, 05:24:55 AM And in each case, money passes between the hands. The world isn't run by weapons anymore, or energy, or money. It's run by little ones and zeroes, little bits of data. It's all just electrons. ...Marty Title: Re: Ed Snowden, NSA, and fairy tales a child could see through Post by: Book on June 30, 2013, 05:27:42 AM Feel sorry for US citizens these days with having such a bad government.
Title: Re: Ed Snowden, NSA, and fairy tales a child could see through Post by: cryto4rig on July 01, 2013, 05:14:48 PM Obama in 2008 said leakers reporting government abuse should come forward, and would be honored and appreciated, now he wants to charge and imprison one.... Idiot
Title: Re: Ed Snowden, NSA, and fairy tales a child could see through Post by: Lethn on July 01, 2013, 05:23:59 PM Feel sorry for US citizens these days with having such a bad government. Our governments are just as bad, they're just better at covering it up. Title: Re: Ed Snowden, NSA, and fairy tales a child could see through Post by: cryto4rig on July 01, 2013, 06:23:10 PM I hope snowden gets asylum somewhere and live happily ever after honestly
Title: Re: Ed Snowden, NSA, and fairy tales a child could see through Post by: Lethn on July 01, 2013, 06:46:11 PM Supposedly he's already in Russia at Moscow Airport, but who knows what they'll do to him over there.
Title: Re: Ed Snowden, NSA, and fairy tales a child could see through Post by: SEC agent on July 01, 2013, 11:09:16 PM I sincerely hope he gets executed by a CIA hit squad.
Title: Re: Ed Snowden, NSA, and fairy tales a child could see through Post by: Book on July 02, 2013, 03:36:58 AM Feel sorry for US citizens these days with having such a bad government. Our governments are just as bad, they're just better at covering it up. Title: Re: Ed Snowden, NSA, and fairy tales a child could see through Post by: Rassah on July 02, 2013, 05:33:45 AM Feel sorry for US citizens these days with having such a bad government. Our governments are just as bad, they're just better at covering it up. Can you buy and sell bitcoins in the UK? Title: Re: Ed Snowden, NSA, and fairy tales a child could see through Post by: Book on July 02, 2013, 05:48:19 AM Feel sorry for US citizens these days with having such a bad government. Our governments are just as bad, they're just better at covering it up. Can you buy and sell bitcoins in the UK? Title: Re: Ed Snowden, NSA, and fairy tales a child could see through Post by: Spendulus on July 02, 2013, 11:10:54 PM I sincerely hope he gets executed by a CIA hit squad. Spoken as a true minion of the Bamster, best friend of William Ayers....Wait.... Title: Re: Ed Snowden, NSA, and fairy tales a child could see through Post by: Book on July 12, 2013, 04:05:09 AM Did Snowden not inform everyone that the US was spying on its allies like the EU?
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