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Economy => Speculation => Topic started by: topper26 on November 23, 2017, 12:44:49 PM



Title: How will bitcoin futures affect it's overall price
Post by: topper26 on November 23, 2017, 12:44:49 PM
The cme we know will begin selling bitcoin futures in the next couple weeks. I have read some articles stating this will cause the great bitcoin crash of 2017. This author claims because of this ethereum will explode and make monumental gains like nothing bitcoin has ever seen.

This author used to be big into bitcoin seGeral years ago but now states it is a bubble about to get wrecked.

Now I had 5o pay 5 dollars for this info and I am going to get specific erc 20 token info to purchase.

Obviously as a long term hodler this is concerning. I am not saying  this can't happen but personally I feel big money is going to strt coming in now which will only strengthen the price.

Any thoughts? Thanks


Title: Re: How will bitcoin futures affect it's overall price
Post by: Red-Apple on November 23, 2017, 01:07:20 PM
I have read some articles stating this will cause the great bitcoin crash of 2017. This author claims because of this ethereum will explode and make monumental gains like nothing bitcoin has ever seen.

then that article was clearly written by some ETH bag-holder who didn't even understand the difference between ETH tokens and bitcoin currency.

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Any thoughts? Thanks

there has been contradictory speculation regarding the future market that CME is adding. some say it will make bitcoin more legit and that alone will bring a lot of investors and price will go up a lot. just based on that alone. then obviously the market itself introduced bitcoin to new investors that may even buy bitcoin and hold it themselves directly.
this is what i think will happen.

there is also others saying Wall Street guys will come in and mess things up. but i think bitcoin market is bigger than that and mainly global not just US based to be affected like this.

we have to wait an see.


Title: Re: How will bitcoin futures affect it's overall price
Post by: HeRetiK on November 23, 2017, 01:15:31 PM
The cme we know will begin selling bitcoin futures in the next couple weeks. I have read some articles stating this will cause the great bitcoin crash of 2017. This author claims because of this ethereum will explode and make monumental gains like nothing bitcoin has ever seen.

1) If BTC crashes, it will take ETH down with it. Some alts like ETH may receive a short term pump, but if BTC goes down, mid- to long-term it won't look good for the alt market either.

2) Ironically there is some concern how Wall Street could soil Bitcoin's reputation, however I'm not sure how BTC futures are supposed to lead to a big crash -- except for maybe by triggering the ultimate BTC bubble first. In the long run I'm positive though that this increase of active market participants will lead to a more stable BTC market.


Title: Re: How will bitcoin futures affect it's overall price
Post by: stompix on November 23, 2017, 01:26:08 PM
The cme we know will begin selling bitcoin futures in the next couple weeks. I have read some articles stating this will cause the great bitcoin crash of 2017. This author claims because of this ethereum will explode and make monumental gains like nothing bitcoin has ever seen.
This author used to be big into bitcoin seGeral years ago but now states it is a bubble about to get wrecked.
Any thoughts? Thanks

Well, do you trust a guy that is willing to sell you a car, a house, anything without a single question?
Do you trust a guy that is telling you to invest knowing that he is heavenly into it , without questions?

Anybody can write an article claiming anything they want.I can publish right now a blog in which I claim Bill Gates is pouring money into altragxbalacoin. Why do you even bother reading articles about some altcoin exploding (really bad choice of words)  when it's 4 years already since bitcoin was supposed to be passed by numerous alt but here we are... still number 1?

Nobody knows what will happen, there is no magic orb, and certainly not an anonymous  blogger will predict the future

And most important
We don't even know for sure if CME will start the trading by December
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cme-bitcoin/cme-says-bitcoin-futures-coming-this-year-but-date-not-set-idUSKBN1DL1QP

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As of Monday, CME had not yet filed with the U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission to launch bitcoin futures, a spokeswoman for the company said.


Title: Re: How will bitcoin futures affect it's overall price
Post by: AngelOnCrypto on November 23, 2017, 01:37:25 PM
Let's not forget that futures will allow people to short Bitcoin. And a lot of analysts say this may put pressure on the price.
It is not just good news.


Title: Re: How will bitcoin futures affect it's overall price
Post by: jvdp on November 23, 2017, 03:13:16 PM
The cme we know will begin selling bitcoin futures in the next couple weeks. I have read some articles stating this will cause the great bitcoin crash of 2017. This author claims because of this ethereum will explode and make monumental gains like nothing bitcoin has ever seen.

This author used to be big into bitcoin seGeral years ago but now states it is a bubble about to get wrecked.

Now I had 5o pay 5 dollars for this info and I am going to get specific erc 20 token info to purchase.

Obviously as a long term hodler this is concerning. I am not saying  this can't happen but personally I feel big money is going to strt coming in now which will only strengthen the price.

Any thoughts? Thanks
In current market Bitcoin is raise constantly. It is not affect in future. Because lot of changes are possible in future. So overall price are not affect in future market. Most of the traders are invest in Bitcoin and miners also mining the Bitcoin. This create major affects in other altcoins. These is the main reason in price fluctuation. But future digital market is more benefit to Altcoins.


Title: Re: How will bitcoin futures affect it's overall price
Post by: harizen on November 23, 2017, 03:17:42 PM
The cme we know will begin selling bitcoin futures in the next couple weeks. I have read some articles stating this will cause the great bitcoin crash of 2017. This author claims because of this ethereum will explode and make monumental gains like nothing bitcoin has ever seen.

This author used to be big into bitcoin seGeral years ago but now states it is a bubble about to get wrecked.

Now I had 5o pay 5 dollars for this info and I am going to get specific erc 20 token info to purchase.

Obviously as a long term hodler this is concerning. I am not saying  this can't happen but personally I feel big money is going to strt coming in now which will only strengthen the price.

Any thoughts? Thanks

Then keep yourself busy watching the bitcoin trend eeryday as you are really worried for what will happened. And if that is your assumption then try to think now what will you do in case that thing will happened. Everything is possible to happened.

Remember that Speculation will always be a Speculation if it's not happened yet. Now if your precious mind telling you that speculation will likely to happen, prepare some nice strategy in order to take advantage of that negative thing.


Title: Re: How will bitcoin futures affect it's overall price
Post by: tiggytomb on November 23, 2017, 03:17:56 PM
It will definitely open the doors to the more traditional investor and possibly bring the price up a bit, I am more concerned as to why you had to pay for this information when there are a lot of opinions on this matter floating about the web.


Title: Re: How will bitcoin futures affect it's overall price
Post by: 1Referee on November 23, 2017, 03:40:10 PM
And most important
We don't even know for sure if CME will start the trading by December
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cme-bitcoin/cme-says-bitcoin-futures-coming-this-year-but-date-not-set-idUSKBN1DL1QP

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As of Monday, CME had not yet filed with the U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission to launch bitcoin futures, a spokeswoman for the company said.

Finally someone with some proper understanding of how things really are. People just assume that CME will be opening up Bitcoin future markets, but they ignore the most important fact that if they don't end up getting an approval, there will be no CME offering Bitcoin related trading options. If CME speculation is what's keeping the market around current levels, it will definitely suffer a blow at the time the market knows about a rejection. In case of an approval, the market will obviously shoot up higher, likely close to, or even over the $10,000 level. People are just reading titles and ignore everything related to core aspects of an article/announcement. It's like nothing has changed in all the years here. ::)


Title: Re: How will bitcoin futures affect it's overall price
Post by: alyssa85 on November 23, 2017, 04:14:21 PM

And most important
We don't even know for sure if CME will start the trading by December
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cme-bitcoin/cme-says-bitcoin-futures-coming-this-year-but-date-not-set-idUSKBN1DL1QP

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As of Monday, CME had not yet filed with the U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission to launch bitcoin futures, a spokeswoman for the company said.

So where did the rumour come from that they were starting futures trading in December? Or did they mean December 2018 but someone got the year wrong?


Title: Re: How will bitcoin futures affect it's overall price
Post by: Usafstar on November 23, 2017, 04:25:39 PM
It is true saying that from the present you can predict future easily which will be right up to some extent. In the case of bitcoin I think the future of this crypto currency is bright the price are relatively high in the market and it will goes up in the future. The future will always affect the overall price and history of this famous currency.


Title: Re: How will bitcoin futures affect it's overall price
Post by: reda on November 23, 2017, 05:21:15 PM
It is true saying that from the present you can predict future easily which will be right up to some extent. In the case of bitcoin I think the future of this crypto currency is bright the price are relatively high in the market and it will goes up in the future. The future will always affect the overall price and history of this famous currency.

Bitcoin is not affect the other currency. If need for the information check the market prices. It will give to you for the prices list. Bitcoin prices change day by day so it will high and low any time it will not easy to gies the prices list. So it will give to more information for future improvement process. Bitcoin is low it will change the other coin prices it will low or high So it not easy to gather for the prices infromation


Title: Re: How will bitcoin futures affect it's overall price
Post by: MiningSensei on November 23, 2017, 07:58:56 PM
but how is it supposed to be crashing the whole market? it makes no sense, they are just going to add bitcoin to their futures exchange, they are not going to massively buy bitcoin and dump all of them when the price touches $50k.

It is not a dirty move, well, of course that they are going to be able to manipulate the price via those futures, but not much, just think that having bitcoin on a future's exchange doesnt mean that it all will be like a centralized system, it is just now going to be tradeable in there, and all those people who never trusted in bitcoin might be interested to join now.


Title: Re: How will bitcoin futures affect it's overall price
Post by: GreatOrchid on November 23, 2017, 09:21:17 PM
They all are like a good plan to manipulate bitcoin like they had never did before, i am a little bit scared of all this situation, but lets see how it goes, i dont think that it is going to crash the whole price because there are no chances to see that happening.
The only way to see it crashing again, is just if all those bitcoin miners decide to switch their hashrates to bitcoin cash again, if that happens, then bitcoin might fall again, and there is nothing that could stop them for doing this.
Future's are not a bad thing for bitcoin, they are exactly the opposite.


Title: Re: How will bitcoin futures affect it's overall price
Post by: richardsNY on November 23, 2017, 09:54:09 PM
Future's are not a bad thing for bitcoin, they are exactly the opposite.

Main point of importance is that people speculate while things haven't been put into practice yet, which is called empty speculation. Ultimately, market movers benefit from an increasing and decreasing price, so it goes both ways. It shouldn't be all that different from what we have been experiencing already, because at the end of the day, nothing can come even close to what we have gone through in the last years. Another important fact is that all short term corrections have never had an actual long term impact on the market, and that's what people most of the times forget.


Title: Re: How will bitcoin futures affect it's overall price
Post by: minersday on November 23, 2017, 10:01:13 PM
The futures is going to be one of the greatest things that bitcoin had during the last few months, maybe during years.

They are going to list it now, and you are really complaining about it? What do you want? the price can not suddenly go towards $50 thousand dollars because you really want to see it happening, it is all a whole process.
Lets see how it goes, but i dont think that it is going to be a bad thing because they are trying to do it in order to give people more possibilities to invest in bitcoin without having to have a wallet, and of course, have that money  into a bank if you want to.


Title: Re: How will bitcoin futures affect it's overall price
Post by: iqlimasyadiqa on November 23, 2017, 10:46:17 PM
It is true saying that from the present you can predict future easily which will be right up to some extent. In the case of bitcoin I think the future of this crypto currency is bright the price are relatively high in the market and it will goes up in the future. The future will always affect the overall price and history of this famous currency.
We have all seen that the current development of Bitccoin and digital currencies is very rapid. So it is not a public secret when Bitcoin is predicted to have a bright future. the impact of the Positive view on Bitcoin now will certainly make the Bitcoin price increase as it gets positive sentiments that can increase the confidence of the people in the world.


Title: Re: How will bitcoin futures affect it's overall price
Post by: topper26 on November 23, 2017, 11:22:35 PM
Here is the link which I referenced in my initial post. Michael Robinson is a proven name and introduced me to bitcoin via money morning website several years agi. He was very pro bitcoin but now appears to be pro ethereum and feels a crash is iminent.


https://strategictechinvestor.com/acq/fb/eth/great-bitcoin-crash-2017-heres/?src=fb


Title: Re: How will bitcoin futures affect it's overall price
Post by: namjar on November 24, 2017, 03:33:08 AM
I dont see this as a bad thing, and everytime that there is something new on the whole community a lot of people are always complaining about it because it is new.

I am getting really tired of this situation, but i am so acostumbrated to it after all. Lets just see what happens, there are more than 25 days left until they list bitcoin on their futures exchange, it would be huge, and i really know that the price of bitcoin will suddenly go up to more than nine thousand dollars each one of them.

Lets see how the facts are going to act before complaining about all the situations out there.



Title: Re: How will bitcoin futures affect it's overall price
Post by: DaMut on November 24, 2017, 05:50:53 AM
i do not think it's a bad choice for Bitcoin to get listed on CME group's,
but if we're talking about the consequences,everything have their own advantage and disadvantage.
what i mean is every development that will happen with Bitcoin have its own weakness.
for example this one,
the biggest advantage for Bitcoin is we're out of our safe zone and trying to increase the demand by letting people know about how it works.
listing in CME group's is a good way to advertise Bitcoin to other people,by doing trade in their futures people know about something so called 'cryptocurrency' and slowly they will try to know about it.
in other hand this thing will cause a hype that will lead to massive decline in the future due to overpump,but if Bitcoin can deliver something new the price will be back and slowly moving upward.


And most important
We don't even know for sure if CME will start the trading by December
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cme-bitcoin/cme-says-bitcoin-futures-coming-this-year-but-date-not-set-idUSKBN1DL1QP

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As of Monday, CME had not yet filed with the U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission to launch bitcoin futures, a spokeswoman for the company said.

So where did the rumour come from that they were starting futures trading in December? Or did they mean December 2018 but someone got the year wrong?

it's not the rumour but it's statements from them,
they said they will list it in Q4 2017,which is should be around november~december,right ?
but everything can be happen with cryptocurrency because cryptocurrency can not live without drama.


Title: Re: How will bitcoin futures affect it's overall price
Post by: nidacoinlove on November 24, 2017, 06:26:30 AM
Unfortunately this author forget something while he was writing this article and it is for great concern of almost all the cryptonians. Usually when we see a drop in the BTC price the ETH price also turns to red colour means the ETH price falls with it too and in good days of BTC ETH price shows as green. Now I don't understand where did this writer get this super flop idea. It's just a trash article, he must be someone ETH investor who tried to increase ETH price. The bitcoin users are too mature to recognize such trash items.