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Im new and never participated in a bounty campaign but after checking the facts i can say that it looks like a scam. They are just delaying the moment of truth

And not to the organizers of ATLANT, what is the discrepancy of the white paper?
the total number of ATL tokens was limited to 150,000,000
3.5% pre-sale 5 250 000 ATL
69% ICO 103 500 000 ATL
15% team and consultants 22 500 000
12.5% ​​bounty 18 750 000

Sold in total for real money 13,225,026 ATL out of the possible 108,750,000 (pre-sale and ICO)
that is 12.1% of the possible, 87.9% destroyed

It turned out:
total: 54,175,041 ATL 100%
13,225,026 ATL investors (pre-sale + ICO) 24.4%
22 500 000 ATL team and consultants 41.5%
18 750 000 ATL Bounty 34.6%

The question is: why did not they destroy proportionally 87.9% of the bounty and from the team and consultants?
This is nonsense, when investors received less than the bounty for the pre-award and ICO.
Yes, and most of all this does not correspond to the ratio indicated in the white paper!

He is so bad and have too bad attitude. All atlant member also shows very bad attitude. They are very kind before ico. After end of ico and they collected money almost 7 million they act like scammer. And i think yhey are the real scammer. In their blog says jullian will be in florida. I hope some one cacth him in florida. This kind of scam must be stoped. Must have deter effect so no one repeated it again.

....Or is it only "Frogman"?

Another thing that raised my suspicions a little while back is that basically all the accounts changed their signatures immediately when it was edited/ updated by the bounty manager. What I mean here is that probably some of you remember their "last chance to buy", "hurry up and buy now" signatures. For all the accounts in the signature campaign, their signatures were edited almost immediately after the changes were released by the manager. Meanwhile I'm having trouble getting people to change their signatures weeks after I made an edited and told people to updated it.

This makes me chuckle. Atlant members who are saying good things about the ICO, most of them doesn't really mean anything nor they take time to research what the project is all about. Basically, you can tell that most of the time they are just doing it to spam and increase their post count. As expected, when the campaign ends, they want their token right away (very demanding) and as it gets delayed they will go wilder and those who are patient have lost it.

Atlant, on the other hand, seems joyed with the money they acquired. Funny that they don't think of their precious and beloved participants of their bounty program. The optimistic and active to reply with the concerns of their bounty participants and investors alike had subsided.

Lauda, you are kidding me, right?

There are/were dozens of hacked accounts (also legitimate) that were used just to post(spam) all over the forum with the Atlant bounty signature. IMO the campaign (at least signature campaign side of things) was a bit too 'successful', however this can also be due to advertising. (What I mean is the sheer number of accounts in the actual campaign, and also never having a proper BTC paid signature campaign.

Most of people who positive with this project because CEO of the project ever shows up in conference.

Most of people who positive with this project because CEO of the project ever shows up in conference.

I am not. I have no time to look for the "official" accounts, which is why I'm asking OP to list them. My responding time for some inquiries is 7-14 days (hence no time).

All of those people are idiots. Con men tend to appear on the stage quite often.

Frogman is a bought account from by the Atlant team to start and promote this project.

July 14, 2017, 04:31:41 AM - Frogman - password changed

Dear Bounty Campaign Participants,

Within a few weeks you will be able to see the final counts, and also be able to check your ETH addresses. 

In order to thoroughly process each of your messages, we will post one campaign spreadsheet every two weeks.

First, we will post the spreadsheet for the Facebook Campaign.

Then, two weeks later, we will post the spreadsheet for the Twitter campaign.

Every two weeks after that, we will post subsequent spreadsheets for other campaigns, until all bounty campaign spreadsheets with stakes have been posted, and participants given opportunity to review them.

For all comments and suggestions related to the calculation of stakes, please PM Frogman

Thank You,

ATLANT Team

Just read his message:


This seems to be a hacked account and a really hilarious post. He will take 2 weeks to post one spreadsheet which means by the time the spreadsheets are available, it will be 2019-20. This is crazy!

On a final note, their spreadsheet is not available to the public once more, though it may just be an error on my side. Can anyone confirm?

Are you serious? 2019-20? Why is that ? I mean, how many campaigns are there that it would take another year or so until the release of the signature campaign spreadsheet?  It would be best if they release it first before any other spreadsheet because the delay in the release of the signature campaign spreadsheet started all this chaos and rumors about atlant.

He is exaggerating or doesn't know math and dates. If the estimate time of 10 weeks from now which they can make all the spreadsheets available publicly and the payment of the participants which adds up maybe 4 more weeks (i.e. if they have a plan to pay their participants), it will not even get the year 2018 done. 2019-2020 is just ridiculous.

You all need to take a chill-pill. This really sucks but that doesn't make the project a scam. As long as they pay it's fine ::)

Im new and never participated in a bounty campaign but after checking the facts i can say that it looks like a scam. They are just delaying the moment of truth

Though to be completely honest, I don't think its a direct scam. It may be possible/ true, please don't quote me on this.

IMO what it probably happening is they bought up a bunch of accounts as a form of advertising and now after their ICO is over, they don't give a sh!t about the bounty anymore. Though what they are doing is dodgy as hell, so a scam is very imminent/possible.


It was meant to be sarcasm, and I understand you are very busy ;)


Really? It never came to my mind that con-men could come face-face with the public. Isn't it easy to trace them down via police, FBI and whatnot?

EDIT: Their ANN thread is ridiculously brief + no pics of the development team. Someone tell me all that posting/ hype was legitimately from real members of the forum. I've never seen anything like that for such a short thread.

I indirectly meant to say that the spreadsheets will never be assessed and hence don't insult my intelligence (I may be even more educated than you :) ).

It's better to assume that they don't have any intention to pay.

Are you even a member of the bounty campaign?

I can't say that they are scam or not but the account of Frogman seems to be hacked. I'm losing hope to get paid anyways.

Now they will pay every 2 weeks

Hi,

the 3rd of November ended Atlant ICO, at that time Frogman (a member of the atlant team) asked everyone 3 weeks to calculate all the tokens and make public the spreadsheets.

Those 3 weeks have already ended, and not only spreadsheets are not public, but also says that every 2 weeks one of them will open, so now he want almost 10 weeks or more, which seems ridiculous, making us lose valuable time to all.

He says that for any query we contact him in any of the official channels, but the reality is that he does not answer in any place.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2053308.msg25156862#msg25156862

atlant team is very lazy team ive seen in this forum. 4weeks of counting the stakes of the participants and still counting. this will be a scam campaign i think frogman now has negative trust.

I'm not. That's why I said either you are exaggerating (hyperbole, a figurative language) or doesn't know math. I'm sorry if you're offended. Who knows which one of us is more intelligent? Lol. Just kidding and don't take it seriously.
It's more like "entertaining a possibilty" than assuming. I think that's more precise.
I am. From the very first week up to the last.
I also do. With all of this, I'm not taking my hopes up. If they don't then fine and if they will then that's better.

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This makes sense. This will save their token's market. As time goes by, they might be listed to more trading platforms which will make the token distributed widely, have a good volume and demand instead of dying due to massive selling that might happen if they release the bounty all at once. If it happens, it would be hard to save the token and as well as their project (that's if they really are serious about it) and it might just end up dying.

1. I intentionally did that because you have the penchant of not responding, and fooling people around!

2. This is not just about bounty. This is about payment for a job already done a long time ago. This is about your new project policy which is consistently changing, to shirk from responsibilities apparently. This is about how you treat your community. This is about your project asking ETH from people working for you instead of you paying them.


1. Quote to us here that portion of your whitepaper which is clearly describing KYC and Whitelisting for campaign participants and not to just to investors.

2. If you can comply #1, why did you not make it crystal clear from the start by stating the same in the rules of your bounty?

3. Since you are bringing us back to your whitepaper, please quote it from there that you will be collecting 1 ETH from each and every campaign participant in order to continue receiving their fair share of payment?

4. If indeed it was stated in your whitepaper, why were you distributing the payments for several months in a different manner and then shift all of a sudden to a new manner? In the first place, the installment payment was never the agreement.


1. The various campaigns are being operated by way of this forum. It is therefore imperative on your part to publish whatever changes here. Take a look at the post informing us about the KYC and whitelisting and tell me whether it is done "2 months before being implemented."

2. Thanks for the offer. But no thanks! Before offering something else, offer first a fair payment to all those who worked for you!

Please comment on your insane way of requiring campaign participants to send you 1 ETH before them receiving their payments. This is not ICO, mate. This is supposed to be playing time for your promoters.

@Frogman, @Fdanconia (managers) are not painted red because Lauda is not a DT member anymore.[/b]

Or, because you didn't paint them red.

So you guys basically payed 1ETH to give your KYC to strangers. It is not bounty reward which would worry me.