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BTC surges past 9 k and short term threats are growing...

It obviously will. I noticed short time fluctuations all through yesterday. I think the best approach in trading would be longer durations such as hourly as there has been appreciable gains or bullishness within such periods. I am not a trader and wouldn't know if 24 hour period is a possibility, if it were, I'm sure many daring traders are making a lot of gains off the bull run.

Short term positions are always most vulnerable when values are increasing or decreasing rapidly because that's when there's the most volatility. On the other hand, it is also when the most profit is to be had for people who are successful with their trades and in that sense it is a double aged sword.

If you are not going to hold your bitcoins for a long term, then what the hell are you doing here? It is the same as saying that you are going to buy gold to just hold for two months, and knowing that the spread is more than 5% you still want to continue.

it is almost the same, why would you want to join bitcoin and then leave? it is ridiculous, and everybody who joins in here and only invest for a few days to make $100 or $300 are just the coward ones, because there is no reason to just join to make a quick profit and leave.

I do not understand how does all this kind of people are still able to invest in bitcoin, they must come back to their shitty bank investments and invest in those "safe fund's pool" who are giving out 3% a year plus taxes.

Any growth will affect short term positions. The reason for this is the volatility of bitcoin that comes through corrections after bubbles. It's highly suspected that a lot of people have sell orders in on bitcoin hitting 10,000. When that's reached, if a lot of people drop their bitcoin, we'll see a very strong correction that may drop it sub 9000. Short term traders should probably sell asap, it may be dangerous if they try to buy a lot more at 10,000.

Of course it will because for example, they just have bought their bitcoin and then when they saw that the bitcoin rise its price value high, they immediately sell it. They didn't wait for the time that it will rise up more so they can get more than what they deserved to gain. So sometimes, they will not deny to feel regret by deciding to sell their bitcoin immediately because of the fear that the price will drop again.

It is truly a double edge sword because I could remember vividly when I was newly introduce to FX trading I usually trade on 5 minute chart with high lot size of which I use to gain more than triple of my capital and lost heavily at the same time until I developed the best strategies that works for me. This is also the same thing that happen in crypto currency trading if am not mistaken I have tried it before now.  

This has to do with the expectations of people, they think that they can make a lot of money with bitcoin in the short term and while that is correct, you can also lose a lot if you happen to invest at one of the peaks and then there is a correction that is why a lot of people prefer to invest for the long term to avoid those losses.

Bitcoin has been forcing Alts to correct their btc price according to their fiat price which is stable if you have you're money in Alts, at least in terms of fiat, you still have your investment even if you got trapped in the pumps in June. What is being revealed is that this amounts of bitcoin people are trading are still too big amounts price needs to correct so the amount of bitcoin held by each person is more accurate and that's why price just keeps raising. There's a fib right now at 10200 but I don't see this stopping until 16k or so.

Short trading is very risky you really have to watch the price movement of every coin. Personally if you really want to experience the real growth then HODL bitcoin, and make yourself busy to other things, yes you are making money through that but you are wasting your time because you can't buy bitcoin as the same price in the past.

I think if the price rise in the bitcoin it will affect the short term and long term positions. Those who want to get the instant profit on it they will sell their bitcoin at the price which they wish.
On the other hand if these fluctuation occurs in short period then the arbitrage chances are high and the experts can use this arbitrage.

I agree with your statement Short trading is very risky. But most people think of wanting to earn money easily without wasting time. I also occasionally experience it, so I have to wait for the coin to go down when the same price in the past.

no because "the rise of bitcoin" i not a new thing, the speed of the rise i not that new either. it has grown a lot this year but the rate at which price rises is similar to all the previous rallies. the amount is bigger though. and the whole market is not changed that much either. there is bitcoin, with its solid rise and all the FUD that is surrounding it, then there are altcoins which are the same old pump and dump schemes that many lost money in and some who know it make money from them.
short or long doesn't matter either, as long as you can speculate about the market you can be successful in trades that you make otherwise whether price is $10 or $10,000 you will lose money.

Yes,investments in bitcoin mostly gives benefits in long term basis and so,mostly bitcoins are bought as a long term investment.Even if bitcoin price increases at very high speed nowadays,short term benefits could no be expected all the time.To get huge benefits in short term,they should better invest in altcoins whose market is highly volatile and which best suits for short term trading.

It is very risky but that does not mean that holding bitcoin is the best strategy, it is the best strategy for those who are risk averse or for those who are not successful enough with short term trading. But for those who want to gain large amounts rapidly then you should definitely give it a try.

but short trading are profitable when you are starting in trading for you to learn more about trading cause if you could go straight to long term than in short term you may take some looses for so better to start in short term but dont just waste your time on that make some way on how you can have bitcoin for you to have at least some long term.

Holding is always the best strategy, many people that say they can get profits by trading are not taking into account the taxes they need to pay in each transaction, that was not a factor but now it seems heavy regulation is going to come our way and that is going to change.

It always depend on your entry position. If you have bought it around 7-8k then it may be best to hold until you have reached your target profit for short term. Price of bitcoin nowadays go up and down so it you may profit from short term. As a day trader I usually exit on 3-5% profit per trade because I don't want to get stuck on a position that is not favorable caused by wanting to profit more. Volatility is always a risk when talking about short term investments.

bitcoin price fluctuations have always affected the whole market not just one and not just short term positions. it changes everything in the market  dynamic from what i have seen so far.
that is why one of the first things i do at times like this is to sell all my altcoins and get out of all my positions to wait for their bottoms to be reached. it can be like a double edge sword actually, the prices can drop hard but if you catch them at a good time you can make a lot of profit, but if you catch them too soon you will lose a lot of money when the drop continues.

Yes.
Dont do it now.

It is too impossible to win now

I always believed in the short term positions and to be honest they are actually good way to grab bitcoin or any coin with lowest rate and then re invest the coin or fiat that we have gotten that way. You see it through my perspective, if the coin is not stable for pretty long period and we saw many ups and downs then we can always buy the coin when it is in crest and sell at trough and if we see another dip surging afterward then just buy it with those coins which you got as profit from the first trade. So that’s how one should use the short term positions. Very beneficial if we keep repeating it ever.

I suppose, short-term investment is always there though Bitcoin always rises. So I do not think Bitcoin's price affects short-term investment. For example like ICOs, trading, tokens, and so on. It looks like a short-term investment if we take a good look. ICO is a solution for those of us who want to make money with a quick investment. There are some people who can benefit 1000 times as much because of ICO. But remember, not all ICOs are legit and profitable, there are some scam or fraudulent ICOs because they only utilize the popularity of cryptocurrency to deceive.

The most important thing now is timing in trading. We are required to be able to choose the right time and do a very good action, because every price increase that happens should be utilized as possible.

yes it is more profitable to do for cause i believe on that also that for where you can got some profit even this are short term i agree with your opinion cause this is where i can get also for me to have bitcoin some coin that are too much expensive , i just make sure that the profit that i can get is more than 50% and above.

Short position is not depend rise of bitcoin rapidly or not.
Short position always bring high risk high return. If people success with their trade in short position, they can bring alot of money.

Definitely short positive will be affected as a result of the market value of Bitcoin fluctuations and so, what is required of traders is to a long position in other to avoid been cut off at lost position. The major problem is that short time traders are not that good in trading for a long period of time position but it is advisable for them to learn both long time position in addition to their short period position whlch they already know more about.

If someone sort this coin very hard.
I am like waiting for it :)

I know it is not possible.

Increasing rise of bitcoin is providing good opportunity to short term investors to make money. In fact people always try to buy bitcoin in low price so that they can get a good profit after increasing price of bitcoin. If the investors are confident about the price of bitcoin or any other altcoin ten they try to invest their money there without any delay so as not lose the opportunity of making making money.

Short term profits could not be expected from bitcoins and bitcoin mostly benefits only in a long term basis.Altcoins only would best suit for short term profits as its market is highly volatile.Since bitcoin price is continuously moving in bullish trend,short term benefits could not be expected and it would be much better to hold bitcoins for a long time.

You just excited about past trend?. Just bought them to grow them in a short term? Patience is an important to folllow here.
It looks you will get disappointed if the value just had a blip.
Fluctuation is expected in bitcoin and all others. Should utilize the dips in a positive manner like buy coins.

Monitoring the events on cryptomarket I did not mention that each jump of Bitcoin affects very much short-term positions.

Trying to time the market at this point seems like a waste of time just hold your bitcoin and wait, and only sell when you reach your target price, in this market that is so bullish any other strategy is an strategy that is going to make you lose money in the short term.

Yes Bitcoin price are growing through this many transaction of bitcoin affected. bitcoin rise in price affect short term position because the users purchased the bitcoin because to sell in the future to earn some profit over it and they want to buy crypto currency for short time period so if price rise they will sell their bitcoin instantly without further holding it.

Bitcoin can benefit you in the short term, you just need to look at what happened in this month however this year has been atypical since the price has gone up every month, in other years if you invested for the short term you will not know if you were going to earn money or lose it.

BTC is a great short term investment, you can get decent margins if well aware of the movements