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Title: [BTC] [Paying $100] To whoever helps me get these coins confirmed [Details Insid
Post by: NewdayBTC on November 29, 2017, 06:16:06 PM
So this is sort of a long story - basically, I was playing with double spending some btc. This is the addy that the two transactions were created from:  blockchain[dot]info/address/1EWTcQPTrKeHRSQjaS1JAgdLHLBPew7D3s

As you guys can see - there is a negative balance and one of the outputs is confirmed while the other isn't - if you follow that unconfirmed tx trail - it will end up here: blockchain[dot]info/address/18bCTiTXLVajxnQn48VPmGGrVx2WeLWMKW

This is the wallet that is linked inside the blockchaininfo wallet.
 
Pic of BC wallet: imgur[dot]com/a/4O0Rx

After I double spent - the 2nd tx went to my Block chain wallet. I then sent everything in my BC wallet back to the Electrum wallet with like a $6 fee (I was trying to use Child pays for Parent - on a double spent tx (to speed it up))

Anyways - the double spend was only like $150 but I sent EVERYTHING from my BC wallet with that cpfp tx (like $500) and then it didn't show up in the Electrum wallet as pending so i panicked and exported the Private key from Electrum and imported it back into blockchain info wallet.

So now im stuck with my BC wallet saying I have $600 (All unconfirmed) and I can't send any( I get a weird error:  BitcoindException(super=com.neemre.btcdcli4j.core.BitcoindException: Error #-25: Missing inputs, code=-25)

Anyways - I am willing to pay whoever can help me get these back $100 of that BTC

I am open to Teamviewer or whatever it takes.

Thanks
(if you PM me, pm me your contact info cause I can't respond yet)


Title: Re: [BTC] [Paying $100] To whoever helps me get these coins confirmed [Details Insid
Post by: mininghardwaresell on November 29, 2017, 06:31:13 PM
Quite interesting if I put that unconfirmed tx into the viabtc accelerator it just comes up with ' Transaction does not exist '


Title: Re: [BTC] [Paying $100] To whoever helps me get these coins confirmed [Details Insid
Post by: NewdayBTC on November 29, 2017, 07:21:22 PM
Yeah I have tried all of the TC accelerators I can't find - Nothing :(

I still have no idea what to do :(


Title: Re: [BTC] [Paying $100] To whoever helps me get these coins confirmed [Details Insid
Post by: Taras on November 29, 2017, 07:23:45 PM
A transaction sending the 0.05669711 BTC back to yourself with a 0.00104154 BTC fee should do the trick. You have 3 unconfirmed transactions plus this new 4th one that you have to pay for. If your wallet won't cooperate with you anymore, you can try to use coinbin (https://coinb.in/) to make the transaction from scratch. Go to New->Transaction, and paste your address in and click load. That should find your unconfirmed input that your wallet may be ignoring. Then paste your address in as an output, and for the amount put 0.05565557 (the full amount minus the fee). Submit the transaction and then go to the sign tab to sign it with your private key making it official. You can do this part offline if you want, considering it's a lot of money. Then broadcast the transaction. This will set all the transactions to 160 sat/b overall, which in the current fee economy is workable.

You could alternatively just wait it out. The transactions aren't lost or missing, they're unconfirmed and will confirm eventually if no action is taken in the coming hours/days. As long as you have the private key to 18bCTiTXLVajxnQn48VPmGGrVx2WeLWMKW, you will receive the money in the absence of any more double spends.


Title: Re: [BTC] [Paying $100] To whoever helps me get these coins confirmed [Details Insid
Post by: NewdayBTC on November 29, 2017, 07:39:53 PM
Thanks for that - I tried using coinbin but when i tried to broadcast - it said missing inputs :(

Not sure what to do


Title: Re: [BTC] [Paying $100] To whoever helps me get these coins confirmed [Details Insid
Post by: amaclin1 on November 29, 2017, 09:02:21 PM
Not sure what to do
1) Relax.
2) Forget about this transaction
 aa0809cf7bd6e1a25d5c84275a380198a82360acbe2f8e940b22a7561eb5a11f
 do not look on it at all. it does not exist even if you see it

You had  0.0184912 BTC in 7350573af953193fa181ee2b29bde89f092e8e04bcd86ba7f1c007cbab67b597
You sent  0.00632181 BTC to 1Lg9HhVxGx5584PBpTD8wEXdU15KXKtmFc and
              0.01210219 BTC to 3DWZmFW3sc2ZW1JQSQaXMQbQDbeECz4KLK



Title: Re: [BTC] [Paying $100] To whoever helps me get these coins confirmed [Details Insid
Post by: NewdayBTC on November 29, 2017, 10:16:13 PM
Not sure what to do
1) Relax.
2) Forget about this transaction
 aa0809cf7bd6e1a25d5c84275a380198a82360acbe2f8e940b22a7561eb5a11f
 do not look on it at all. it does not exist even if you see it

You had  0.0184912 BTC in 7350573af953193fa181ee2b29bde89f092e8e04bcd86ba7f1c007cbab67b597
You sent  0.00632181 BTC to 1Lg9HhVxGx5584PBpTD8wEXdU15KXKtmFc and
              0.01210219 BTC to 3DWZmFW3sc2ZW1JQSQaXMQbQDbeECz4KLK



Yes but then if you look: https://blockchain.info/address/1Lg9HhVxGx5584PBpTD8wEXdU15KXKtmFc

There are still double...


Title: Re: [BTC] [Paying $100] To whoever helps me get these coins confirmed [Details Insid
Post by: HCP on November 30, 2017, 04:23:42 AM
b.info is "broken" and will display all sorts of crazy confusing stuff... it makes it easier for people like amaclin1 to bamboozle and scam people who don't know any better... :P

Although what he says here is true:
2) Forget about this transaction
 aa0809cf7bd6e1a25d5c84275a380198a82360acbe2f8e940b22a7561eb5a11f
 do not look on it at all. it does not exist even if you see it

Even though b.info is still showing this transaction (aa0809cf7bd6e1a25d5c84275a380198a82360acbe2f8e940b22a7561eb5a11f (https://blockchain.info/tx/aa0809cf7bd6e1a25d5c84275a380198a82360acbe2f8e940b22a7561eb5a11f)) it can NEVER confirm, as the input was used in this transaction which is already confirmed: 31b2b6195099d5c0c11e6a55001a96246857c6d566404f23c0a1ce2d7d783d0f (https://blockchain.info/tx/31b2b6195099d5c0c11e6a55001a96246857c6d566404f23c0a1ce2d7d783d0f)

This means that this transaction (e4378e9a20625a8348f20f1bcbb7982d954371ea16d145bf238073cce6a5fd58 (https://blockchain.info/tx/e4378e9a20625a8348f20f1bcbb7982d954371ea16d145bf238073cce6a5fd58)) can NEVER confirm either, as it's parent can NEVER confirm...
which also means that this transaction (ff9e05ff3af9ac6ddb854427332bc681f587ab50a3bfb4a0eee8744b9aeebd5e (https://blockchain.info/tx/ff9e05ff3af9ac6ddb854427332bc681f587ab50a3bfb4a0eee8744b9aeebd5e)) can NEVER confirm as it's parent transactions can NEVER confirm...


Title: Re: [BTC] [Paying $100] To whoever helps me get these coins confirmed [Details Insid
Post by: amaclin1 on November 30, 2017, 04:57:49 AM
b.info is "broken" and will display all sorts of crazy confusing stuff... it makes it easier for
people like amaclin1 to bamboozle and scam people who don't know any better... :P
Right now I am trying to explain the situation.
What I do wrong?
OK, I've gone. Help yourself.


Title: Re: [BTC] [Paying $100] To whoever helps me get these coins confirmed [Details Insid
Post by: Taras on November 30, 2017, 05:42:49 AM
I did not see that the parent transaction had a confirmed double spend. Usually blockchain.info says (Spent, Spent) in that case instead of just (Spent). Maybe that isn't happening because this transaction has children? ???

Disregard what I said in my last post. 1KMXQWRo3iCSVRvY9VWEqTVcD31G8v4wjN is the recipient of 0.03918896 BTC. Try exporting the private key of 1KMXQWRo3iCSVRvY9VWEqTVcD31G8v4wjN and importing it in Electrum.


Title: Re: [BTC] [Paying $100] To whoever helps me get these coins confirmed [Details Insid
Post by: amaclin1 on November 30, 2017, 05:50:35 AM
Usually blockchain.info says (Spent, Spent) in that case instead of just (Spent).
Sometimes bc.i change their engine fixing one and breaking another. Isn't it obvious?


Title: Re: [BTC] [Paying $100] To whoever helps me get these coins confirmed [Details Insid
Post by: HCP on November 30, 2017, 09:32:04 AM
Right now I am trying to explain the situation.
What I do wrong?
OK, I've gone. Help yourself.
Didn't mean to offend mate... Just some friendly banter... Hence the ":P"

And also why I pointed out what you said was very true... The transaction doesn't (and can never) exist... Despite what b.info says ::(


Sometimes bc.i change their engine fixing one and breaking another. Isn't it obvious?
Quoted for truth... Honestly b.info is terrible sometimes... Their wallet is even worse ::)


Title: Re: [BTC] [Paying $100] To whoever helps me get these coins confirmed [Details Insid
Post by: amaclin1 on November 30, 2017, 09:46:53 AM
Quoted for truth...
I always say truth. Nobody catched me on lie.


Title: Re: [BTC] [Paying $100] To whoever helps me get these coins confirmed [Details Insid
Post by: Thirdspace on November 30, 2017, 11:11:52 AM
Thanks for that - I tried using coinbin but when i tried to broadcast - it said missing inputs :(

Not sure what to do

Here's what I see on the money trail:
18nicQcQ4 0.05772536 ~> 1EWTcQPTr 0.0184912 S + 1KMXQWRo3 0.03918896 ?
1EWTcQPTr 0.0184912 ~> 1Lg9HhVxG 0.00632181 S + 3DWZmFW3s 0.01210219 S
1Lg9HhVxG 0.00632181 ~> 1LTSq9n6m 0.00014605 U + 1LQAGuzGZ 0.00610796 S
and my guess is 3DWZmFW3s & 1LQAGuzGZ are not your addresses

Transaction that needs to be fixed:
https://blockchain.info/tx/ff9e05ff3af9ac6ddb854427332bc681f587ab50a3bfb4a0eee8744b9aeebd5e
1KMXQWRo3 0.03918896 + 1BoGFV5qf 0.01210219 + 1L9CY9sQ8 0.00610022 ~> 18bCTiTXL 0.05669711
the only valid input is 1KMXQWRo3 0.03918896

you only have to wait all weird txs to be dropped by miners and gain control back the balance 1KMXQWRo3 0.03918896
if you don't want to wait and insist to re-claim your 0.03918896 BTC in 1KMXQWRo3
you should follow Taras' advice, use electrum or coinb.in (less hassle if you have privkey handy)

if you have trouble creating the transaction, here's the unsigned tx
for transaction from 1KMXQWRo3 to 18bCTiTXL 0.03888896 BTC and 0.00030000 tx fee
decode/verify it, make sure this tx you really want, sign and broadcast it
Code:
010000000197b567abcb07c0f1a76bd8bc048e2e099fe8bd292bee81a13f1953f93a575073010000001976a914c953f6e38c6a284f22047cfa34bb2c38553abb6a88acffffffff0100573b00000000001976a9145340970b2a0801dc25638c0cfde5019e863bc5e788ac00000000


Title: Re: [BTC] [Paying $100] To whoever helps me get these coins confirmed [Details Insid
Post by: NewdayBTC on November 30, 2017, 06:58:06 PM
Thank you for that - From what I understand that addy: 1KMXQWRo3iCSVRvY9VWEqTVcD31G8v4wjN  should be in my Electrum wallet - however - when I search for it - there is nothing there.

I am sure that it was sent from that wallet but that address is not linked to it.


KEEP IN MIND: that I didn't SEND all the coins from the electrum wallet - When they didn't show up - I got worried and transferred them into bc.i


Title: Re: [BTC] [Paying $100] To whoever helps me get these coins confirmed [Details Insid
Post by: 9kek on November 30, 2017, 09:19:33 PM
Please, list the addresses you have the private key.
You should have private key of address 1KMXQWRo3iCSVRvY9VWEqTVcD31G8v4wjN if you managed to sign the unconfirmed tx ff9e05ff3af9ac6ddb854427332bc681f587ab50a3bfb4a0eee8744b9aeebd5e.
Don't know hou blockchain.info works, but you need to extract the private key for 1KMXQWRo3iCSVRvY9VWEqTVcD31G8v4wjN


Title: Re: [BTC] [Paying $100] To whoever helps me get these coins confirmed [Details Insid
Post by: NewdayBTC on November 30, 2017, 09:41:49 PM
Yes I know - I think that when I transferred that address to BC.I it deleted the private key out of electrum - I cant find it now.


Title: Re: [BTC] [Paying $100] To whoever helps me get these coins confirmed [Details Insid
Post by: Thirdspace on November 30, 2017, 10:30:59 PM
Yes I know - I think that when I transferred that address to BC.I it deleted the private key out of electrum - I cant find it now.

when you do this tx https://blockchain.info/tx/7350573af953193fa181ee2b29bde89f092e8e04bcd86ba7f1c007cbab67b597
do yo remember which wallet you used to create & broadcast it?
if you can get the privkey of 1KMXQWRo3, you could just sign & broadcast the unsigned rawtx I gave you
I created that under the assumptions you control/have privkey 1KMXQWRo3 and your bc.info address is 18bCTiTXL
if that's not the case and it is a lot safer for you to not trust me and just create the tx yourself  8)

if you have trouble creating the transaction, here's the unsigned tx
for transaction from 1KMXQWRo3 to 18bCTiTXL 0.03888896 BTC and 0.00030000 tx fee
decode/verify it, make sure this tx you really want, sign and broadcast it
Code:
010000000197b567abcb07c0f1a76bd8bc048e2e099fe8bd292bee81a13f1953f93a575073010000001976a914c953f6e38c6a284f22047cfa34bb2c38553abb6a88acffffffff0100573b00000000001976a9145340970b2a0801dc25638c0cfde5019e863bc5e788ac00000000


Title: Re: [BTC] [Paying $100] To whoever helps me get these coins confirmed [Details Insid
Post by: NewdayBTC on November 30, 2017, 11:15:41 PM
^^ Yes it was electrum - But when It never showed up in electrum so i exported the key and imported it to BC.I and now its like disappeared lol.

If I can't find the key - how long will it take to get rejected?


Title: Re: [BTC] [Paying $100] To whoever helps me get these coins confirmed [Details Insid
Post by: Taras on December 01, 2017, 03:00:31 AM
^^ Yes it was electrum - But when It never showed up in electrum so i exported the key and imported it to BC.I and now its like disappeared lol.

If I can't find the key - how long will it take to get rejected?

The transaction paying to 1KMXQWRo3iCSVRvY9VWEqTVcD31G8v4wjN has already confirmed and is irreversible (that is to say, it will never be rejected and is final). If you lost the private key to the address, the coins are probably permanently lost, unless you can find a copy of that key. The unconfirmed transaction spending the money from that address will never confirm as the other inputs to the transaction trace back to outputs with confirmed double spends.

I suggest thoroughly checking through all of your wallets to ensure that you have not overlooked this address, if it was yours to begin with.


Title: Re: [BTC] [Paying $100] To whoever helps me get these coins confirmed [Details Insid
Post by: HCP on December 01, 2017, 09:31:56 AM
^^ Yes it was electrum - But when It never showed up in electrum so i exported the key and imported it to BC.I and now its like disappeared lol.
"exported" keys are not removed or deleted by Electrum. They are still kept in the Electrum wallet. Exporting simply displays the private key on the screen and/or allows you to save it to a file if required.

Find the Electrum wallet that contains this address and you will be able to export the private key again.


Title: Re: [BTC] [Paying $100] To whoever helps me get these coins confirmed [Details Insid
Post by: NewdayBTC on December 01, 2017, 10:17:16 PM
^^ Yes it was electrum - But when It never showed up in electrum so i exported the key and imported it to BC.I and now its like disappeared lol.

If I can't find the key - how long will it take to get rejected?

The transaction paying to 1KMXQWRo3iCSVRvY9VWEqTVcD31G8v4wjN has already confirmed and is irreversible (that is to say, it will never be rejected and is final). If you lost the private key to the address, the coins are probably permanently lost, unless you can find a copy of that key. The unconfirmed transaction spending the money from that address will never confirm as the other inputs to the transaction trace back to outputs with confirmed double spends.

I suggest thoroughly checking through all of your wallets to ensure that you have not overlooked this address, if it was yours to begin with.

But this tx will get rejected tight?
https://blockchain.info/tx/ff9e05ff3af9ac6ddb854427332bc681f587ab50a3bfb4a0eee8744b9aeebd5e




Title: Re: [BTC] [Paying $100] To whoever helps me get these coins confirmed [Details Insid
Post by: amaclin1 on December 02, 2017, 12:31:09 AM
But this tx will get rejected tight?
https://blockchain.info/tx/ff9e05ff3af9ac6ddb854427332bc681f587ab50a3bfb4a0eee8744b9aeebd5e
It can not be rejected because it does not exists in reality today.
This is a glitch of bc.i.