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Title: Recent dumping of bitcoin : how to take advantage of it
Post by: Dorisebere on November 29, 2017, 08:29:56 PM
Bitcoin today made a tremendous increase to 11.5k $ which was a surprise to everyone but just had a fall back to 9000$ some minutes ago.  This is where traders make their profit,  buy when it's dumping and sell when it's pumping.  Buying now will be great to sell in few days time when the value increases. 


Title: Re: Recent dumping of bitcoin : how to take advantage of it
Post by: asdlolciterquit on November 29, 2017, 08:32:34 PM
Bitcoin today made a tremendous increase to 11.5k $ which was a surprise to everyone but just had a fall back to 9000$ some minutes ago.  This is where traders make their profit,  buy when it's dumping and sell when it's pumping.  Buying now will be great to sell in few days time when the value increases. 

if everyone know when to sell and when to buy...we all be rich. But reality is different.

We all want to sell high e buy low...but how many of us are able to do it?


Title: Re: Recent dumping of bitcoin : how to take advantage of it
Post by: wiser on November 29, 2017, 08:40:51 PM
You have to be very patient, and willing to hold onto your coins when others are panic selling. In general, when you see the price shooting up really fast you can expect it to correct at some point. But you don't know when. So you sell when the run up seems to be slowing down. You most likely won't hit the top, but that's OK. Likewise, when it's falling, you try to buy when it's settled down a bit, and most likely the price will continue to fall some after you've bought in, so you have to let that go and hold on until you see the price rise again. Some people are cut out for that sort of thing and others are not. A lot of people are not cut out for that, which is why those who are get rich.


Title: Re: Recent dumping of bitcoin : how to take advantage of it
Post by: Ruetli on November 29, 2017, 08:46:25 PM
I believe that Bitcoin below $10k is a strong buy. The question is when to sell. Aiming near the top before correction is much more difficult.


Title: Re: Recent dumping of bitcoin : how to take advantage of it
Post by: lucifochrome on November 29, 2017, 08:53:27 PM
taking advantage of it is as simple as buying at low and selling at high but that is in theory, in reality it is hard because we have to predict how the market will perform, honestly i thought it will reach 12K before dumping but 11K then dumped i guess i predicted that wrong, if you have patience you will make a profit, for short trading you can just add bitcoin when the price dumped and sell some when the price rise back up.


Title: Re: Recent dumping of bitcoin : how to take advantage of it
Post by: RobbieDK on November 29, 2017, 08:55:39 PM
How to handle those crashes?

The most easy strategy it:
- HODL your power hitters;
- Use those moments to convert FIAT to BTC for dirty cheap extra power hitters to upgrade your army


Title: Re: Recent dumping of bitcoin : how to take advantage of it
Post by: pixie85 on November 29, 2017, 08:59:02 PM
I'm not so sure about that so I'm not buying. I have bought some of my coins early this year and decided to hold. I was hoping for 8k USD at the most but it went much higher which got me a bit concerned that at least the last 3k must consist of new users ready to dump at any moment. I think that we might be going up and down from this for some time. People have to get familiar with the price and calm down. If you put your money into the day trading range be ready to day trade, if you know what I mean.


Title: Re: Recent dumping of bitcoin : how to take advantage of it
Post by: aardvark15 on November 29, 2017, 09:03:13 PM
Bitcoin today made a tremendous increase to 11.5k $ which was a surprise to everyone but just had a fall back to 9000$ some minutes ago.  This is where traders make their profit,  buy when it's dumping and sell when it's pumping.  Buying now will be great to sell in few days time when the value increases. 

This is a good time to start buying because we know the price can go above $11,000 very easily. People are cashing in profits to buy back lower.

I’m just long term holding everything I have right now, but if I had some extra money sitting around, I would start putting in buy orders at key target prices.


Title: Re: Recent dumping of bitcoin : how to take advantage of it
Post by: leonardofr on November 29, 2017, 09:04:07 PM
But when you say "sell", do you mean converting to Fiat or to other Crypto?


Title: Re: Recent dumping of bitcoin : how to take advantage of it
Post by: jjacob on November 29, 2017, 09:08:28 PM
Bitcoin today made a tremendous increase to 11.5k $ which was a surprise to everyone but just had a fall back to 9000$ some minutes ago.  This is where traders make their profit,  buy when it's dumping and sell when it's pumping.  Buying now will be great to sell in few days time when the value increases. 

You are making a lot of assumptions - that the dump is market manipulation, it is temporary and the price will go up in a few days. Even if one of these fails, your strategy to make quick bucks goes for a toss. It is better to accumulate at regular intervals, to try and average out your costs.


Title: Re: Recent dumping of bitcoin : how to take advantage of it
Post by: RunningJack on November 29, 2017, 09:09:27 PM
Hi. its still too high for my taste. i will wait a bit and then buy some


Title: Re: Recent dumping of bitcoin : how to take advantage of it
Post by: leex1528 on November 29, 2017, 09:14:56 PM
So you are claiming you should buy when its low and sell when its high?  This is a genius idea!  I wonder why no one has even thought of this before at all. 

End sarcasm.  That is always the goal, but its super hard to determine when one of these things is going to happen and thats the problem.


Title: Re: Recent dumping of bitcoin : how to take advantage of it
Post by: GeePeeU on November 29, 2017, 09:23:55 PM
Seems a bit early to declare this the sweet spot to buy back in.


Title: Re: Recent dumping of bitcoin : how to take advantage of it
Post by: Sandwalker on November 29, 2017, 09:31:00 PM
I think the ppl that sold at $11k will now be buying at $9k~.  It's just a matter of days before it goes back up and beyond.

This is not like the bitcoin of the past, where a few Chinese players could manipulate the market so easily.  Now btc is being used more as currency by multiple countries, which will help stabilize it and make it grow.  It's the investors that pump and dump and cause wild fluctuations like this.  However, since there's more regular users and countries involved, we shouldn't see massive drops like we have in the beginning.



Title: Re: Recent dumping of bitcoin : how to take advantage of it
Post by: John Langut on November 29, 2017, 09:34:58 PM
Movements like these makes you wonder how decentralized Bitcoin really is. We will probably continue to see such volatility until the big holders have sold their Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Recent dumping of bitcoin : how to take advantage of it
Post by: lighpulsar07 on November 29, 2017, 09:36:01 PM
Well i must say the crash was earlier than i expected although some f us using this opportunity to buy bitcoins at lower price and sell it in a high price that is smart way to earn profit. I will just wait a little more maybe bitcoin price drop more if that's so i'll take the opportunity
But when you say "sell", do you mean converting to Fiat or to other Crypto?
Well both once you convert your bitcoins into fiat or other cryptocurrencies it is a sell in bitcoin but in altcoin it is a buy.


Title: Re: Recent dumping of bitcoin : how to take advantage of it
Post by: BUK2016 on November 29, 2017, 09:37:40 PM
Bitcoin today made a tremendous increase to 11.5k $ which was a surprise to everyone but just had a fall back to 9000$ some minutes ago.  This is where traders make their profit,  buy when it's dumping and sell when it's pumping.  Buying now will be great to sell in few days time when the value increases. 
This is a great opportunity for rational investors and traders to take advantage and buy at a lower price than to wait whether the decline will continue on a down trend.
The decrease in the market value of bitcoin is a normal volatile of any crypto currency which most of us traders are used to the situation trading and I strongly believe that so many people will be disappointed for not bitcoin when is value was low down to $9000 because very soon upward trend will stars.


Title: Re: Recent dumping of bitcoin : how to take advantage of it
Post by: JWH007 on November 29, 2017, 09:39:38 PM
What the hell just happened to the markets today, Bitcoin in particular!?? That was a pretty steep and quick market sell-off for it to just be some profit taking?


Title: Re: Recent dumping of bitcoin : how to take advantage of it
Post by: UrosViewly on November 29, 2017, 09:42:12 PM
Seems a bit early to declare this the sweet spot to buy back in.

I would also wait and see where this goes, I wouldn't buy now, but I would set orders .. just in case it goes up faster than expected.


Title: Re: Recent dumping of bitcoin : how to take advantage of it
Post by: Raegorl on November 29, 2017, 09:45:12 PM
I think it's too early to be calling it a dip yet. We might see bitcoin trace back to 8k support levels before we take off again for new all time highs. Or atleast take some days to consolidate around the 9-9.5k range, the 11k push was too fast, couldnt be sustained.


Title: Re: Recent dumping of bitcoin : how to take advantage of it
Post by: Fatunad on November 29, 2017, 09:45:23 PM
Bitcoin today made a tremendous increase to 11.5k $ which was a surprise to everyone but just had a fall back to 9000$ some minutes ago.  This is where traders make their profit,  buy when it's dumping and sell when it's pumping.  Buying now will be great to sell in few days time when the value increases. 

if everyone know when to sell and when to buy...we all be rich. But reality is different.

We all want to sell high e buy low...but how many of us are able to do it?
No one would really be able to do such thing since we do have always on doubt and shorting bitcoin on a short period of time would really be a hard decision since we wont know on when it would be the best spot to take profits but lucky for me i did able to sell out on AHT levels which it did make me money because my intuition do help me that this might the top of this price rally and i was actually right.It did able to drop fast going back to 9k levels.


Title: Re: Recent dumping of bitcoin : how to take advantage of it
Post by: hadveach on November 29, 2017, 09:50:38 PM
yes, it's a simple thing, this is what I'm worried about, when bitcoin rises too high, it will fall drastically. then I think if bitcoin is above then bitcoin owners should quickly sell it before the price goes back down.
I agree with your way of thinking, buying at the time of dump.


Title: Re: Recent dumping of bitcoin : how to take advantage of it
Post by: John Langut on November 29, 2017, 09:58:12 PM
Just like the movement after the Bitcoin Cash take-over attempt, when Bitcoin fell from 7900 to 5500 and back up again in an hour, these kind of flash crash don't last long.


Title: Re: Recent dumping of bitcoin : how to take advantage of it
Post by: Kelvinid on November 29, 2017, 10:03:57 PM
yes, it's a simple thing, this is what I'm worried about, when bitcoin rises too high, it will fall drastically. then I think if bitcoin is above then bitcoin owners should quickly sell it before the price goes back down.
I agree with your way of thinking, buying at the time of dump.
Right.Buying is the best thing i know and then hold it for long years.But i think it will only last for an hour or a day,i see bitcoin to continue on increasing up to the end of this year.I hope bitcoin will not disappoint us by now.


Title: Re: Recent dumping of bitcoin : how to take advantage of it
Post by: HeRetiK on November 29, 2017, 10:10:30 PM
Movements like these makes you wonder how decentralized Bitcoin really is. We will probably continue to see such volatility until the big holders have sold their Bitcoin.

I'd guess the volatility we saw today was mostly caused by new money. Long term hodlers don't get fazed like that. But it's impossible to say for sure.



What the hell just happened to the markets today, Bitcoin in particular!?? That was a pretty steep and quick market sell-off for it to just be some profit taking?

The market got overly enthusiastic due to finally breaking the legendary USD 10,000,- barrier, causing it to overshoot. As usual with markets that grow too quick, a correction followed. Think of it as a mini bubble.


Title: Re: Recent dumping of bitcoin : how to take advantage of it
Post by: Aufar on November 30, 2017, 11:56:17 AM

I had bought some coins earlier this year and decided to stick it out.

I was hoping for 10k USD at most but it went a lot higher which made me slightly worried that at least the last 4k should consist of new users ready to throw away at any time.


Title: Re: Recent dumping of bitcoin : how to take advantage of it
Post by: nydiacaskey01 on November 30, 2017, 12:02:17 PM
What I do is whenever I feel BTC price reached a point that it will start to dump again, I convert 10% of my BTC to USDT so even when the price of BTC goes down, I still have USDT that I got from BTC when its still high, once it reaches a price that I think is bottom already and will go up again, I buy BTC from my USDT, that increases the number of BTCs I hold.


Title: Re: Recent dumping of bitcoin : how to take advantage of it
Post by: John Langut on November 30, 2017, 01:04:15 PM
Movements like these makes you wonder how decentralized Bitcoin really is. We will probably continue to see such volatility until the big holders have sold their Bitcoin.

I'd guess the volatility we saw today was mostly caused by new money. Long term hodlers don't get fazed like that. But it's impossible to say for sure.



What the hell just happened to the markets today, Bitcoin in particular!?? That was a pretty steep and quick market sell-off for it to just be some profit taking?

The market got overly enthusiastic due to finally breaking the legendary USD 10,000,- barrier, causing it to overshoot. As usual with markets that grow too quick, a correction followed. Think of it as a mini bubble.

Really? The longer I'm in cryptocurrencies the more I'm getting the feeling there are different forces at play than just weak hands. Look what happened a while ago with the cancellation of Bitcoin Segwit2x and the surge of Bitcoin Cash.


Title: Re: Recent dumping of bitcoin : how to take advantage of it
Post by: BitcoinHodler on November 30, 2017, 01:19:22 PM
that has always been how the market works. it is like taking steps. you take two steps forward and 1 step back. sometimes 5 forwards and 2 back. but as long as the back tracking is smaller than the upward movement, we have ourselves a rise. even if the drop seems big to some people!

and so far we have had rises apart from the time that Mt Gox large scale scam damaged bitcoin a lot.

the way you take advantage is that you speculate when the rise will come near its end and sell there to buy back in the dip. then as the drop starts you also start buying slowly back.


Title: Re: Recent dumping of bitcoin : how to take advantage of it
Post by: drawoh14 on November 30, 2017, 01:30:28 PM
Bitcoin today made a tremendous increase to 11.5k $ which was a surprise to everyone but just had a fall back to 9000$ some minutes ago.  This is where traders make their profit,  buy when it's dumping and sell when it's pumping.  Buying now will be great to sell in few days time when the value increases. 
You are right, traders wants to dump bitcoin sometimes because it is an opportunity to them to buy it in low price then will sell it on higher price