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Title: I expected ETH and BCH to go up when BTC dumps but no...
Post by: ggeorgiev on November 30, 2017, 02:11:25 PM
Can somebody explain why that is? They were correlated in the past 1 month seemed like. Now when BTC dumped everything went down with it.


Title: Re: I expected ETH and BCH to go up when BTC dumps but no...
Post by: paolo099 on November 30, 2017, 02:22:01 PM
isn't like this every time? i mean, alt coins rely on BTC price, there is no alt which is independent from BTC in the good and in the bad.
The alt coins prices are always following the BTC trend, not strictly but it's more or less the sam, is BTC growing? alt follow up, same when BTC goes down.. nothing new for me


Title: Re: I expected ETH and BCH to go up when BTC dumps but no...
Post by: jackchun on November 30, 2017, 02:22:12 PM
I agree that.  All popular altcoins have deductions around 15% in a day , just exchange coins to gain back some value is not useful this time..


Title: Re: I expected ETH and BCH to go up when BTC dumps but no...
Post by: hualangktsld841 on November 30, 2017, 02:25:39 PM
Such a situation has appeared many times before. BTC is the vane of encrypted currency. When the bitcoin is adjusted, other encrypted currencies will rise immediately. I think it's mainly the capital of the market. Because most of the capital is in the mainstream currency. When bitcoin absorbs a lot of money, the profit will turn to other mainstream currencies. ETH is a good choice.


Title: Re: I expected ETH and BCH to go up when BTC dumps but no...
Post by: Cicada1033 on November 30, 2017, 02:28:40 PM
Just stick to the scheme:

BTC price goes up -> Alts price goes down
BTC price goes down -> Alts go down
BTC price stays on the same level -> Alt go up

In 80% of the cases this is the truth. We saw that the whole market was in a uptrend the last days BTC + Alts. There was a lot of FOMO. So a correction is now the logic conclusion since the market was to inflatet because the pattern was broken by this unorganic growth.

Just hold you coins and in a week you will see new hights.


Title: Re: I expected ETH and BCH to go up when BTC dumps but no...
Post by: leex1528 on November 30, 2017, 02:30:38 PM
So this is probably my fault.  I decided to purchase a lot of LTC and ETH yesterday, so of course they dropped.  My guess is the coins will fizzle out in the near future and leave me profitless:(


Title: Re: I expected ETH and BCH to go up when BTC dumps but no...
Post by: littlewizard on December 01, 2017, 05:11:36 AM
When bitcoin takes a hit, usually altcoins will take a larger hit because people sell altcoin to bitcoin to cash out.


Title: Re: I expected ETH and BCH to go up when BTC dumps but no...
Post by: James Messy on December 01, 2017, 05:15:24 AM
Can somebody explain why that is? They were correlated in the past 1 month seemed like. Now when BTC dumped everything went down with it.

Well, It is why exactly Bitcoin is the king of all cryptocurrency


Title: Re: I expected ETH and BCH to go up when BTC dumps but no...
Post by: Kakmakr on December 01, 2017, 06:16:08 AM
I can only speak for myself to make my point. I saw the Bitcoin price and Alt coin prices going up and I took some profits from the Alt coins to prepare for the next dip in the Bitcoin price. I know with every Bitcoin price spike, there will be a correction and a massive dip in the price. <so I wanted to be ready for that>

If other people have the same strategy, this simultaneous dip in prices would make a lot of sense. ^smile^


Title: Re: I expected ETH and BCH to go up when BTC dumps but no...
Post by: jekjekman on December 01, 2017, 06:38:27 AM
Can somebody explain why that is? They were correlated in the past 1 month seemed like. Now when BTC dumped everything went down with it.

It happened before because there were people who intentionally manipulated the prices, trading their coins directly to those altcoins. The previous dip on bitcoin price was not a manipulation but rather an effect from people who sold their coin directly to their fiat currency. I remembered seeing almost all of the currency having red marks during the correction. We need to accept that there are investors who set their ceiling price at $10,000 and when bitcoin reached it they sold their coin. It may not be considered as panic selling but it really affected the market since bitcoin's price is only based on demands from investors.


Title: Re: I expected ETH and BCH to go up when BTC dumps but no...
Post by: Herbert2020 on December 01, 2017, 06:49:46 AM
that will never happen unless they are already getting pumped which doesn't happen every month! it is rare. all the other times, these altcoins will get dumped even harder when bitcoin price drops. and they even get dumped when bitcoin price rises.

the reason why it happens like this is not important if you are just looking for investment and making profit. you should just know that it happens.
i have a couple of theories about why it happens, but the one that i like is the fact that altcoins are like penny stocks, nobody cares about them. they are only used as temporary toys to make more profit during bitcoin stable times. the rest of the times everyone comes back to trade bitcoin and leaves altcoins that is why they always drop hard like this.


Title: Re: I expected ETH and BCH to go up when BTC dumps but no...
Post by: NUFCrichard on December 01, 2017, 07:00:31 AM
I see at least two types of dump. One is the quick - move your Bitcoin into alts dump, that moves their price up. This is more of a trade and keeps money in the ecosystem.
The second type is a real SHTF sell, where people are cashing out. They are selling whatever they have as they think it is going down.

The number of transactions in the blockchain should show the difference between the two, I think the 2nd type is the bigger move, I mean we are all used to $300 falls now, but $3000 falls do scare even the loyalest HODLer.

Tether is scary for Alts and Bitcoin alike, so if it is Tether related, I can see why everyone would sell everything!


Title: Re: I expected ETH and BCH to go up when BTC dumps but no...
Post by: pat4cryptoreal on December 01, 2017, 07:02:04 AM
It is always on a rare case that the price of bitcoin will depreciate while the price of ethereum appreciate. When ever bitcoin price drops most altcoin price usually follow suit.


Title: Re: I expected ETH and BCH to go up when BTC dumps but no...
Post by: rcoins0720 on February 20, 2018, 02:22:14 AM
i think no because altcoon depends on how bitcoin price rises hehehe. that's my opinion
altcoon or other cryptocurrency was based on how bitcoin work it is like they are such twin and if they need to work
nut who knows if that happens it is a new era for altcoins