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Title: How to cash out anonymously?
Post by: fritzthecat on July 03, 2013, 05:46:30 PM
Any ideas?


Title: Re: How to cash out anonymously?
Post by: tacoman71 on July 03, 2013, 08:01:40 PM
Sell it to a random guy in person and threaten the guy not to say a word about what happened! ;D


Title: Re: How to cash out anonymously?
Post by: AliceWonder on July 03, 2013, 09:01:25 PM
Any ideas?

Send the me, I'll send a nickel to an anonymous address picked out of the phonebook.


Title: Re: How to cash out anonymously?
Post by: AliceWonder on July 03, 2013, 09:02:56 PM
OK honest answer - buy goods and when delivered, sell goods on eBay.

There will be no bitcoin -> cash trail.

But there could be bitcoin -> shipping address trail.

Who did you steal them from? ;)


Title: Re: How to cash out anonymously?
Post by: favdesu on July 10, 2013, 06:43:14 AM
with localbitcoins.com


Title: Re: How to cash out anonymously?
Post by: scarsbergholden on July 10, 2013, 07:08:10 AM
Craigslist, localbitcoins, OTC trades on the forum. Cash in hand.  ;D


Title: Re: How to cash out anonymously?
Post by: DannyHamilton on July 10, 2013, 02:32:05 PM
Truly 100% anonymous where nobody, not even the buyer, can identify anything about you?

You'll need to communicate via an anonymous channel (such as TORchat), and then you'll have to arrange exchange of a cash (or other bearer instrument) payment via dead drop.

There is huge risk of fraud in this scenario, since the person who "sends first" has no guarantee that the other party will honor their end of the bargain.  This risk is the cost of true anonymity.


Title: Re: How to cash out anonymously?
Post by: Fedrico on July 10, 2013, 03:19:13 PM
Drop ship item on craigslist by buying item via Amazon GCs paid for in bitcoin?


Title: Re: How to cash out anonymously?
Post by: notlist3d on July 10, 2013, 03:28:57 PM
To be 100 percent anonymous i dont think u can cash out.  You could spend on virtual things.  But any physical item, or physical currency will have traces in my opinion.


Title: Re: How to cash out anonymously?
Post by: Scott J on July 10, 2013, 03:34:31 PM
To be 100 percent anonymous i dont think u can cash out.  You could spend on virtual things.  But any physical item, or physical currency will have traces in my opinion.
You can using encryption to communicate and drop-shipping to collect cash. That would be 100% anonymous.

However, I can never imagine going to such lengths. Better to pay the relevant taxes.


Title: Re: How to cash out anonymously?
Post by: BookLover on July 10, 2013, 04:24:56 PM
This is completely anonymous but you can buy gold/silver and sell that to a local store for cash.  GoldSilverBitcoin is a good place to do this.


Title: Re: How to cash out anonymously?
Post by: cowanjeffrey93 on July 10, 2013, 04:25:40 PM
Best way is do localbitcoins and show up with a mask and try not to be shot


Title: Re: How to cash out anonymously?
Post by: meekstav876 on July 10, 2013, 04:49:00 PM
Any ideas?

Id say try BTC-E.com


Title: Re: How to cash out anonymously?
Post by: b1tc01n on July 11, 2013, 11:03:27 AM
The TORchat is the idea and also you can find screw in TOR forums


Title: Re: How to cash out anonymously?
Post by: cosmicblue on July 11, 2013, 11:23:00 AM
Just use an exchanger like crypto-trade.com or fbtcexchange.com and withdraw to a anon. prepaid VISA.


Title: Re: How to cash out anonymously?
Post by: DannyHamilton on July 18, 2013, 11:42:56 PM
To be 100 percent anonymous i dont think u can cash out.  You could spend on virtual things.  But any physical item, or physical currency will have traces in my opinion.
You can using encryption to communicate and drop-shipping to collect cash. That would be 100% anonymous.

However, I can never imagine going to such lengths. Better to pay the relevant taxes.

I'm not sure I understand the "drop shipping" process. How can you receive the cash with anonymity?


Title: Re: How to cash out anonymously?
Post by: pkrbeats on July 19, 2013, 12:01:36 AM
I just saw someone in the marketplace offering no name CC cards they will be send to your home and you can load them to withdrawl your bitcoin for money through the reputable sites.


Title: Re: How to cash out anonymously?
Post by: cosmicblue on July 19, 2013, 09:00:21 AM
I just saw someone in the marketplace offering no name CC cards they will be send to your home and you can load them to withdrawl your bitcoin for money through the reputable sites.
That was most certainly me. Thx.
You can load this card through an exchanger like crypto-trade.com or fbtcexchange.com


Title: Re: How to cash out anonymously?
Post by: CoinEntropy on July 19, 2013, 09:10:43 AM
I just saw someone in the marketplace offering no name CC cards they will be send to your home and you can load them to withdrawl your bitcoin for money through the reputable sites.

That is something I would not advise.


Title: Re: How to cash out anonymously?
Post by: cosmicblue on July 19, 2013, 09:13:23 AM
That is something I would not advise.
 I would!

you can load the card through any exchange and with any name.
Not any exchange! (z.B. nicht MtGox da polnisches Konto eingefroren)


Title: Re: How to cash out anonymously?
Post by: bernard75 on July 19, 2013, 09:22:05 AM
That is something I would not advise.
Could you please elaborate?
Not any exchange!
Indeed i wouldnt advise to load thru Gox because it takes toooooo long, but basically its possible.


Title: Re: How to cash out anonymously?
Post by: CoinEntropy on July 19, 2013, 09:29:17 AM
That is something I would not advise.
Could you please elaborate?
Not any exchange!
Indeed i wouldnt advise to load thru Gox because it takes toooooo long, but basically its possible.

Do you have a link to the company that will verify that they do in fact issue these cards, and that it is legal to do so without any name?


Title: Re: How to cash out anonymously?
Post by: bernard75 on July 19, 2013, 09:37:01 AM
Yes i have it.


Title: Re: How to cash out anonymously?
Post by: cosmicblue on July 19, 2013, 09:40:23 AM
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Do you have a link to the company that will verify that they do in fact issue these cards, and that it is legal to do so without any name?
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Title: Re: How to cash out anonymously?
Post by: Lethn on July 19, 2013, 11:09:28 AM
Buy gold and silver with Bitcoins and sell that rather than dealing with the stupid over-regulated exchanges the only thing with this method I can think of is the bank is going to be wondering how you're able to afford all the gold and silver as well as why you're suddenly getting thousands into your bank account out of nowhere :P though you could just avoid putting the notes into a bank and keep it in a safe or use something like paypal.


Title: Re: How to cash out anonymously?
Post by: p2pbucks on July 19, 2013, 11:27:00 AM
you need a third party to join  :)


Title: Re: How to cash out anonymously?
Post by: cosmicboy on July 19, 2013, 03:33:28 PM
I got a fake ID off silk road, opened up a PO box and buy gold which I can sell for cash locally. I can also order straight cash off Silk Road and localbitcoins though usually the fee is too high.


Title: Re: How to cash out anonymously?
Post by: elrapido80 on July 19, 2013, 04:10:02 PM
Meet in a coffeeshop, do the trade online there and then for cold hard cash.

Oh, and wear a mask.


Title: Re: How to cash out anonymously?
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Title: Re: How to cash out anonymously?
Post by: The Bitcoin Co-op on July 20, 2013, 02:27:57 AM
The best way to enter and exit the crypto market under the radar is in person, in cash. I (the guy operating Bitcoin Co-op's account) entered the market this way, so I assume my assets are invisible, but I haven't tried cashing back into fiat, yet--at least not in the sense that I pulled it out of the online exchange, to my bank account or mattress.


Title: Re: How to cash out anonymously?
Post by: coinlord1 on July 20, 2013, 05:32:10 AM
LocalBitcoins.com
Trade for cash in mail and use a PO Box or a trusted friend/relative's address with a fake name.

Or buy gold/silver with the btc and sell locally as someone else already suggested.


Title: Re: How to cash out anonymously?
Post by: ag346 on July 20, 2013, 08:01:58 AM
Open a swiss bank account and have the funds transferred there.


Title: Re: How to cash out anonymously?
Post by: bernard75 on July 21, 2013, 03:24:17 PM
Switzerland is not what it used to be.
Unfortunately thats true for most offshore heavens, too.


Title: Re: How to cash out anonymously?
Post by: Greymist on July 21, 2013, 05:10:34 PM
Before doing any of the end steps like buying gold/goods and selling them in a pawn shop, how well do services like bitcoin mixers work for muddying the waters? Not that I have any need to be anonymous...at the moment.

Or the other way to cash out is play satoshi, all in, until you lose it all ;)


Title: Re: How to cash out anonymously?
Post by: bitcoindigi on July 21, 2013, 05:28:47 PM
I'd buy anon credit cards or use localbitcoins.


Title: Re: How to cash out anonymously?
Post by: networkgeek24 on July 21, 2013, 06:08:50 PM
This is completely anonymous but you can buy gold/silver and sell that to a local store for cash.  GoldSilverBitcoin is a good place to do this.

How much value would you expect to lose in this type of conversion. IE, buy silver/gold bars from this website, have it shipped to you, sell it at a local store, etc. 5%? 10%?

Are the silver/gold bars that this site sells generally accepted at most local dealers?


Title: Re: How to cash out anonymously?
Post by: bernard75 on July 21, 2013, 06:21:39 PM
More like 20% since you are dealing with so many people in between, the worst are the local gold buyers.
They will though accept gold in any form, even teeth fillings.


Title: Re: How to cash out anonymously?
Post by: niko on July 21, 2013, 06:36:54 PM
Interesting thread.

If your desire for anonimity is driven by tax evasion, consider the overall cost of the two scenarios ("legal" - taxed, vs. paying a premium for a tax-avoiding option).

If it is about stolen coins, the only option is an "anonymous" cashout.

I'd say in-person cash trades are the least risky option, unless you already are under watch.


Title: Re: How to cash out anonymously?
Post by: Daggett993 on July 21, 2013, 06:39:15 PM
Either buy somewhat anonymous products with your coins or localbitcoins.com I would say.


Title: Re: How to cash out anonymously?
Post by: bernard75 on July 21, 2013, 06:43:43 PM
Local coin exchange is for sure the most anonymous, especially if you know the people(not by name :D ).


Title: Re: How to cash out anonymously?
Post by: bernard75 on September 08, 2013, 07:01:28 AM
You can have the card sent to a PO box, your neighbor, your cat or rob the mailman. ;)
And just BTW, i am not storing customer information.