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Economy => Scam Accusations => Topic started by: Killiz on July 03, 2013, 06:22:23 PM



Title: [WTB] PXC for LTC [scammed by Breen2543]
Post by: Killiz on July 03, 2013, 06:22:23 PM
Wanting to trade 40 Litecoin for 15000 Phenixcoin.

Please send Phenixcoin to PmijeJDFYfgKrk2o4bmygqAZboQnS5rMg1 and post your litecoin address

Thanks Killiz



Title: Re: [WTB] PXC for LTC
Post by: nawazish1 on July 03, 2013, 06:42:08 PM

I think you should better convert them to BTC and directly by them from cryptsy. It is really difficult to find someone here most of the people are keeping them. And I doubt that at such low rate you will get any PXC.


Title: Re: [WTB] PXC for LTC
Post by: nviere on July 03, 2013, 06:46:48 PM
wow that's indeed very low


Title: Re: [WTB] PXC for LTC
Post by: chondrite on July 03, 2013, 06:52:18 PM
.00008 btc/pxc


Title: Re: [WTB] PXC for LTC
Post by: richystran on July 03, 2013, 06:55:59 PM
Yeah increase your offer, you would need at least to offer 65ltc to buy that on cryptsy


Title: Re: [WTB] PXC for LTC
Post by: Killiz on July 03, 2013, 09:23:27 PM
Tried to make trade earlier with Breen2543, this is how it went, any thoughts?


I can sell you 15k for 40 ltc.

 My LTC adress is Lh9A1zCcQqWgvAe81XGYYs5o6AzJLaMq4C

Refer to my trust

I can sell you 15k for 40 ltc.

 My LTC adress is Lh9A1zCcQqWgvAe81XGYYs5o6AzJLaMq4C

Refer to my trust

Ok Breen will send when my litecoin wallet catches up with blockchain. few minutes.

Breen2543 goes offline for a while.....

Been waiting for you to come back online, reply to confirm for trade

Apologies, my internet is going on and off constantly, suppost to get a new hookup later today. Yes

Apologies, my internet is going on and off constantly, suppost to get a new hookup later today. Yes

ok sent

Ummm, yea I got it... I was just lookign at the post, and cryptsy and did the conversions, right now on cryptsy at minimum 15k PXC is 2.1 bTC   2.1 BTC = 62 LTC  BTCE- ,

 Can you offer more, I did not realize it was so low, 55 LTC maybe, 15 more?  Otherwise please reply with your LTC address so I can send you back your 40. Sorry didnt mean to do that but with my slow ass internet its making everything difficult to get to.

Ok will send another 15 to even things out  :)

sent


Got it, just waitin on confirms,  I got 35k more PXC if you want more? can do at rate of 50 LTC per 15k

Nice of you to offer for that price, market is too shallow for large trades at moment without swinging the price about too much, but  I think this will be all I will need for now, will PM you if I need any more, many thanks.

By these confirms are slow  :)

All confirmed you can send now  :)

Whats the problem? Still not received the PXC, my litecoin address is LZkuBurENgS5SK3DrDevDJLv19zqHDyyt7, to send my LTC back if you are having second thoughts

Sorry, fucked up internet, its takin me minutes to go from page to page, gimme your ltc address, if i dont have it to you within 15 ill send you back some ltc for this taking so long

Sorry, fucked up internet, its takin me minutes to go from page to page, gimme your ltc address, if i dont have it to you within 15 ill send you back some ltc for this taking so long

Just sent u a PM with it in, thanks

Sorry, fucked up internet, its takin me minutes to go from page to page, gimme your ltc address, if i dont have it to you within 15 ill send you back some ltc for this taking so long

Ok it has been 30 mins since your last PM, if you are having genuine problems my appologies for my repeated PM's, but you must understand my concern.
I dont see how it could take this long to click send on your PXC client.

My Phenixcoin address is   PmijeJDFYfgKrk2o4bmygqAZboQnS5rMg1

Litecoin address is  LZkuBurENgS5SK3DrDevDJLv19zqHDyyt7

Send either 15000 PXC or my 55 LTC back



I'm giving another 20 mins before I post our conversation on the board.








Title: Re: [WTB] PXC for LTC
Post by: Breen2543 on July 03, 2013, 09:25:16 PM
Anyone else want to get BUTT RAPED like this idiot just did, dont people learn anything on this forum, use escrow for crying out loud... or, maybe, no, keeping sending first as a matter of fact. lol


Title: Re: [WTB] PXC for LTC
Post by: thef on July 03, 2013, 09:28:39 PM
Are you serious? What did you think would happen when someone offers to sell you 15k PXC at below market rates and wants you to send first? Why would anyone make a private trade when they could just dump it all and still receive more?


Title: Re: [WTB] PXC for LTC
Post by: Killiz on July 03, 2013, 09:38:01 PM
May this be a lesson to any genuine person trading on this forum!


Title: Re: [WTB] PXC for LTC
Post by: nawazish1 on July 03, 2013, 09:49:42 PM
May this be a lesson to any genuine person trading on this forum!

Sorry to here about this. Some people are really heartless in this world. I told you it is not easy to find PXC here. I am feeling really bad right now. :(

Now PLZ Don't wait to give him negative trust rating with this reference.


Title: Re: [WTB] PXC for LTC [scammed by Breen2543]
Post by: MaGNeT on July 03, 2013, 09:53:51 PM
Always use http://www.phenixst.com as escrow when you buy or sell PXC.

If not, expect to get scammed.  :'(


Title: Re: [WTB] PXC for LTC
Post by: SaltySpitoon on July 03, 2013, 09:57:20 PM
Anyone else want to get BUTT RAPED like this idiot just did, dont people learn anything on this forum, use escrow for crying out loud... or, maybe, no, keeping sending first as a matter of fact. lol

Why would you admit that you scammed the coins...? Or was it a sort of lesson to teach people to use escrow and a staged thing?


Title: Re: [WTB] PXC for LTC
Post by: Breen2543 on July 03, 2013, 09:59:16 PM
Anyone else want to get BUTT RAPED like this idiot just did, dont people learn anything on this forum, use escrow for crying out loud... or, maybe, no, keeping sending first as a matter of fact. lol

Why would you admit that you scammed the coins...? Or was it a sort of lesson to teach people to use escrow and a staged thing?
I didnt scam him, hes making it up, if I did scam him I surely wouldnt admit it.


Title: Re: [WTB] PXC for LTC
Post by: SaltySpitoon on July 03, 2013, 10:00:58 PM
I didnt scam him, hes making it up, if I did scam him I surely wouldnt admit it.

So this isn't all a joke/lesson for others, its an actual scam accusation case?


Title: Re: [WTB] PXC for LTC [scammed by Breen2543]
Post by: daytrader420 on July 03, 2013, 10:01:40 PM
Meanwhile, this is being allowed on the forums: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=245635.0

Always use PhenixST.com for Safe Trade ! That's why it was created in the first place !


Title: Re: [WTB] PXC for LTC
Post by: Breen2543 on July 03, 2013, 10:02:17 PM
I didnt scam him, hes making it up, if I did scam him I surely wouldnt admit it.

So this isn't all a joke/lesson for others, its an actual scam accusation case?
ask killz, have no idea


Title: Re: [WTB] PXC for LTC
Post by: Killiz on July 03, 2013, 10:02:20 PM
May this be a lesson to any genuine person trading on this forum!


Sorry to here about this. Some people are really heartless in this world. I told you it is not easy to find PXC here. I am feeling really bad right now. :(

Now PLZ Don't wait to give him negative trust rating with this reference.

I just hope people who read this are more careful because of this mistake.  ;)


Title: Re: [WTB] PXC for LTC
Post by: nawazish1 on July 03, 2013, 10:03:13 PM
Anyone else want to get BUTT RAPED like this idiot just did, dont people learn anything on this forum, use escrow for crying out loud... or, maybe, no, keeping sending first as a matter of fact. lol

Why would you admit that you scammed the coins...? Or was it a sort of lesson to teach people to use escrow and a staged thing?

Why don't you give him a scammer tag. what are you waiting for.


Title: Re: [WTB] PXC for LTC
Post by: groll on July 03, 2013, 10:03:39 PM
Tried to make trade earlier with Breen2543, this is how it went, any thoughts?


I can sell you 15k for 40 ltc.

 My LTC adress is Lh9A1zCcQqWgvAe81XGYYs5o6AzJLaMq4C

Refer to my trust

I can sell you 15k for 40 ltc.

 My LTC adress is Lh9A1zCcQqWgvAe81XGYYs5o6AzJLaMq4C

Refer to my trust

Ok Breen will send when my litecoin wallet catches up with blockchain. few minutes.

Breen2543 goes offline for a while.....

Been waiting for you to come back online, reply to confirm for trade

Apologies, my internet is going on and off constantly, suppost to get a new hookup later today. Yes

Apologies, my internet is going on and off constantly, suppost to get a new hookup later today. Yes

ok sent

Ummm, yea I got it... I was just lookign at the post, and cryptsy and did the conversions, right now on cryptsy at minimum 15k PXC is 2.1 bTC   2.1 BTC = 62 LTC  BTCE- ,

 Can you offer more, I did not realize it was so low, 55 LTC maybe, 15 more?  Otherwise please reply with your LTC address so I can send you back your 40. Sorry didnt mean to do that but with my slow ass internet its making everything difficult to get to.

Ok will send another 15 to even things out  :)

sent


Got it, just waitin on confirms,  I got 35k more PXC if you want more? can do at rate of 50 LTC per 15k

Nice of you to offer for that price, market is too shallow for large trades at moment without swinging the price about too much, but  I think this will be all I will need for now, will PM you if I need any more, many thanks.

By these confirms are slow  :)

All confirmed you can send now  :)

Whats the problem? Still not received the PXC, my litecoin address is LZkuBurENgS5SK3DrDevDJLv19zqHDyyt7, to send my LTC back if you are having second thoughts

Sorry, fucked up internet, its takin me minutes to go from page to page, gimme your ltc address, if i dont have it to you within 15 ill send you back some ltc for this taking so long

Sorry, fucked up internet, its takin me minutes to go from page to page, gimme your ltc address, if i dont have it to you within 15 ill send you back some ltc for this taking so long

Just sent u a PM with it in, thanks

Sorry, fucked up internet, its takin me minutes to go from page to page, gimme your ltc address, if i dont have it to you within 15 ill send you back some ltc for this taking so long

Ok it has been 30 mins since your last PM, if you are having genuine problems my appologies for my repeated PM's, but you must understand my concern.
I dont see how it could take this long to click send on your PXC client.

My Phenixcoin address is   PmijeJDFYfgKrk2o4bmygqAZboQnS5rMg1

Litecoin address is  LZkuBurENgS5SK3DrDevDJLv19zqHDyyt7

Send either 15000 PXC or my 55 LTC back



I'm giving another 20 mins before I post our conversation on the board.









this LTC adress don't even exist in the chain so this is false

Lh9A1zCcQqWgvAe81XGYYs5o6AzJLaMq4C


Edit: block chain explorer i used was incomplete, transaction actually occur for 55LTC


Title: Re: [WTB] PXC for LTC
Post by: daytrader420 on July 03, 2013, 10:05:17 PM
this LTC adress don't even exist in the chain so this is false

Lh9A1zCcQqWgvAe81XGYYs5o6AzJLaMq4C

If I am not mistaken, that's his refund address?

If he did get scammed, wouldn't it make sense that maybe a fresh address hasn't been used (or refunded) yet?


Title: Re: [WTB] PXC for LTC
Post by: SaltySpitoon on July 03, 2013, 10:05:50 PM
I just hope people who read this are more careful because of this mistake.  ;)

I'm incredibly confused right now, it looks like a serious scam accusation until Breen posted this

Anyone else want to get BUTT RAPED like this idiot just did, dont people learn anything on this forum, use escrow for crying out loud... or, maybe, no, keeping sending first as a matter of fact. lol

followed by you posting this

May this be a lesson to any genuine person trading on this forum!

This is either the first time someone has been so calm and collected after being scammed, or a setup thing to demonstrate the necessity of escrow. Killiz, which is it?


Title: Re: [WTB] PXC for LTC
Post by: groll on July 03, 2013, 10:07:29 PM
this LTC adress don't even exist in the chain so this is false

Lh9A1zCcQqWgvAe81XGYYs5o6AzJLaMq4C

If I am not mistaken, that's his refund address?

If he did get scammed, wouldn't it make sense that maybe a fresh address hasn't been used (or refunded) yet?

nope it's the supposed destination address of the first post of the chain. so


Edit: block chain explorer i used was incomplete, transaction actually occur for 55LTC


Title: Re: [WTB] PXC for LTC
Post by: Killiz on July 03, 2013, 10:09:23 PM
Anyone else want to get BUTT RAPED like this idiot just did, dont people learn anything on this forum, use escrow for crying out loud... or, maybe, no, keeping sending first as a matter of fact. lol

Why would you admit that you scammed the coins...? Or was it a sort of lesson to teach people to use escrow and a staged thing?

It was not staged, I was just too easy to believe that he was genuine, the transactions are here:

Status: 69 confirmations
Date: 03/07/2013 19:58
To: Lh9A1zCcQqWgvAe81XGYYs5o6AzJLaMq4C
Debit: -40.00 LTC
Net amount: -40.00 LTC
Transaction ID: f54921c728ce2d9fa973151787b9a83bbf228598f5dc949d026c08bd91f5ff03

Status: 65 confirmations
Date: 03/07/2013 20:05
To: Lh9A1zCcQqWgvAe81XGYYs5o6AzJLaMq4C
Debit: -15.00 LTC
Net amount: -15.00 LTC
Transaction ID: 5cfd300201210d39d1c5c9df635c2c6f7736184de522ee2893e6446b92466454




Maybe if it was a lesson to me, and staged on his part then he can send the coins back.



Title: Re: [WTB] PXC for LTC [scammed by Breen2543]
Post by: Breen2543 on July 03, 2013, 10:12:39 PM
killz got upset when I wouldnt send first, and I lashed at him for wanting to buy so cheap, but I never scammed, ^ thats hardly proof, this is ridiculous, I cant believe im wasting my valuable time arguing with this idiot.


Title: Re: [WTB] PXC for LTC
Post by: SaltySpitoon on July 03, 2013, 10:13:13 PM
Maybe if it was a lesson to me, and staged on his part then he can send the coins back.

Alright, well they kind of admitted to it here, so I don't think you will have a hard time proving your case, I will move your thread to the scam accusations section, and see if I can get a scammer tag applied.

Anyone else want to get BUTT RAPED like this idiot just did, dont people learn anything on this forum, use escrow for crying out loud... or, maybe, no, keeping sending first as a matter of fact. lol


Title: Re: [WTB] PXC for LTC
Post by: Killiz on July 03, 2013, 10:15:58 PM
Maybe if it was a lesson to me, and staged on his part then he can send the coins back.

Alright, well they kind of admitted to it here, so I don't think you will have a hard time proving your case, I will move your thread to the scam accusations section, and see if I can get a scammer tag applied.

Anyone else want to get BUTT RAPED like this idiot just did, dont people learn anything on this forum, use escrow for crying out loud... or, maybe, no, keeping sending first as a matter of fact. lol

Thanks SaltySpitoon, it is pointless getting irate over this on my part. Obviously I'm a little pissed off, but 55 LTC aint that much of a deal to me, it could of been much worse, its a cheap lesson learned.


Title: Re: [WTB] PXC for LTC [scammed by Breen2543]
Post by: groll on July 03, 2013, 10:16:44 PM
sorry killz true just has not realize that

http://ltc.block-explorer.com/ has stop updating this morning at 4AM... so don't have complete chain at this occur at 19H..

so both transaction actually occur in the block chain. only fact I can get


Title: Re: [WTB] PXC for LTC
Post by: Breen2543 on July 03, 2013, 10:18:41 PM
Maybe if it was a lesson to me, and staged on his part then he can send the coins back.

Alright, well they kind of admitted to it here, so I don't think you will have a hard time proving your case, I will move your thread to the scam accusations section, and see if I can get a scammer tag applied.

Anyone else want to get BUTT RAPED like this idiot just did, dont people learn anything on this forum, use escrow for crying out loud... or, maybe, no, keeping sending first as a matter of fact. lol
I never admitted anything, I didnt scam, why the fuck would you request a scammer tag. Fucking troll.  Better start doing your job right and investigate rather than jump to conclusions.


Title: Re: [WTB] PXC for LTC [scammed by Breen2543]
Post by: Killiz on July 03, 2013, 10:19:47 PM
sorry killz true just has not realize that

http://ltc.block-explorer.com/ has stop updating this morning at 4AM... so don't have complete chain at this occur at 19H..

so both transaction actually occur

 :) ohh they occurred alright.


Title: Re: [WTB] PXC for LTC
Post by: SaltySpitoon on July 03, 2013, 10:24:41 PM
I never admitted anything, I didnt scam, why the fuck would you request a scammer tag. Fucking troll.  Better start doing your job right and investigate rather than jump to conclusions.

You are free to defend your case. But your words are pretty damning.
Anyone else want to get BUTT RAPED like this idiot just did, dont people learn anything on this forum, use escrow for crying out loud... or, maybe, no, keeping sending first as a matter of fact. lol
Also, moderators have no official duty to play any role in scams or scam accusations, so all I did was bring the thread to attention and move it to the correct board. Normally how these things work, is the OP posts some evidence, and you post evidence proving they are wrong, I would get on that.



Title: Re: [WTB] PXC for LTC [scammed by Breen2543]
Post by: SaltySpitoon on July 03, 2013, 10:28:59 PM
Also, the address in the pm DID receive the coins:

http://explorer.litecoin.net/address/Lh9A1zCcQqWgvAe81XGYYs5o6AzJLaMq4C

again, whether or not that is really Breen's address is not confirmed, but before a tag would be applied, a global mod or theymos could confirm via pm.


Title: Re: [WTB] PXC for LTC
Post by: Killiz on July 03, 2013, 10:31:18 PM
I never admitted anything, I didnt scam, why the fuck would you request a scammer tag. Fucking troll.  Better start doing your job right and investigate rather than jump to conclusions.

You are free to defend your case. But your words are pretty damning.
Anyone else want to get BUTT RAPED like this idiot just did, dont people learn anything on this forum, use escrow for crying out loud... or, maybe, no, keeping sending first as a matter of fact. lol
Also, moderators have no official duty to play any role in scams or scam accusations, so all I did was bring the thread to attention and move it to the correct board. Normally how these things work, is the OP posts some evidence, and you post evidence proving they are wrong, I would get on that.



I've posted all the evidence I have, full conversation and transaction details, what else can I add that I'm not thinking of?