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Title: Which graphics card is best?
Post by: tengek37 on December 01, 2017, 04:35:13 PM
I want to build a mining tool (RIG) but I am confused when choosing the right graphics card to mine Etherium.
Nividia or RX ... I hope you guys can give me advice.
thanks.


Title: Re: Which graphics card is best?
Post by: alh on December 01, 2017, 04:38:01 PM
I would encourage you to read the Sticky note at the top of this Sub-Forum. There you'll note that Bitcoins can no longer be mined efficiently using ANY GPU, You will be best served by looking to an Alt-Coin forum.

It's also quite possible that this thread will get moved by a moderator (e.g. -ck).


Title: Re: Which graphics card is best?
Post by: QuintLeo on December 02, 2017, 12:03:58 AM
For ETH, the AMD RX 470/570/480/580 are the kings as far as current new cards go on hash/$ and they are very very close on efficiency to anything else on hash/watt.

The only reason folks started building NVidia-based ETH mining rigs was that those RX series cards hit crazy pricing for a while due to demand GREATLY exceeding supply to the point they cost MORE than NVidia 1070 cards - and started driving NVidia 1060 and 1070 card pricing up as well.

 At current "getting back towards MSRP" pricing on the AMD cards, no reason to waste time looking at anything else (possible exception for the GTX 1060).

 In used cards, if you can get R9 290/290x/390/390x cards for enough less than those RX cards AND if you have low cost power, they MIGHT be a better choice - they'll pull a hair higher hashrate but they eat a TON more power to do so.



Title: Re: Which graphics card is best?
Post by: GeePeeU on December 02, 2017, 12:59:54 AM
RX 470/570 23-30 h/s  also optimal hash/watt
1070 @ 28-30h/s
1060 @ 18-22 h/s


Title: Re: Which graphics card is best?
Post by: leonix007 on December 02, 2017, 01:49:07 AM
RX 470/570 23-30 h/s  also optimal hash/watt
1070 @ 28-30h/s
1060 @ 18-22 h/s

It should be mh/s not h/s in ETH

AMD RX cards requires modification in order to achieve higher hashrate upto 30mh/s, GPU price ranging 250-300USD

GTX 1070 cards can do also upto 30mh/s without modification and by tuning clocks only, GPU price range 310-500

there are online calculators out there to check your present profitability on each card

goodluck to your mining journey


Title: Re: Which graphics card is best?
Post by: bigjee on December 02, 2017, 05:36:29 AM
So between the 570 and 580 what is the difference?
Also does it matter if its 4 or 8GB? Is the Dag file increase still affecting these cards ?


Title: Re: Which graphics card is best?
Post by: QuintLeo on December 02, 2017, 07:41:38 AM
RX 470/570 23-30 h/s  also optimal hash/watt
1070 @ 28-30h/s
1060 @ 18-22 h/s

It should be mh/s not h/s in ETH

AMD RX cards requires modification in order to achieve higher hashrate upto 30mh/s, GPU price ranging 250-300USD

GTX 1070 cards can do also upto 30mh/s without modification and by tuning clocks only, GPU price range 310-500

there are online calculators out there to check your present profitability on each card

goodluck to your mining journey

 I've never seen a GTX 1070 in the 310 range, especially not recently, from ANY source.
 AMD cards HAVE been dropping noticeably under 250 the past couple weeks, as low as $209 on Newegg on Black Friday/Cyber Monday weekend though they bounced back up a little since then (the LOWEST 1070 on Newegg is $399 for comparison).
 
 RX series cards DO need a BIOS modification to achieve top hashrates, but 22-24 with a STOCK card is common with just overclocking/undervolting.



Title: Re: Which graphics card is best?
Post by: Marvell2 on December 02, 2017, 07:44:43 AM
RX 470/570 23-30 h/s  also optimal hash/watt
1070 @ 28-30h/s
1060 @ 18-22 h/s

It should be mh/s not h/s in ETH

AMD RX cards requires modification in order to achieve higher hashrate upto 30mh/s, GPU price ranging 250-300USD

GTX 1070 cards can do also upto 30mh/s without modification and by tuning clocks only, GPU price range 310-500

there are online calculators out there to check your present profitability on each card

goodluck to your mining journey

 I've never seen a GTX 1070 in the 310 range, especially not recently, from ANY source.
 AMD cards HAVE been dropping noticeably under 250 the past couple weeks, as low as $209 on Newegg on Black Friday/Cyber Monday weekend though they bounced back up a little since then (the LOWEST 1070 on Newegg is $399 for comparison).
 
 RX series cards DO need a BIOS modification to achieve top hashrates, but 22-24 with a STOCK card is common with just overclocking/undervolting.


yeah best hash per $ is amd but 1070s run at way less powerand are
so much easier to get running.

its a tough call


Title: Re: Which graphics card is best?
Post by: gomeZLTC on December 02, 2017, 08:01:58 AM
If I choose AMDs Card. Although there are several algorithms more better use NVIDIA


Title: Re: Which graphics card is best?
Post by: bigjee on December 02, 2017, 08:32:46 AM
RX 470/570 23-30 h/s  also optimal hash/watt
1070 @ 28-30h/s
1060 @ 18-22 h/s

I dont think those figures are accurate as they dont take memory types into consideration.


Title: Re: Which graphics card is best?
Post by: Etherion on December 02, 2017, 09:36:51 AM
If your just looking at eth then rx 470 or 1060 6g.

But if you can open your mind a bit then I would strongly recommend 8 x 1060 3g on a Biostar TB 250 btc plus with a 1600w mining psu. Just install windows 10, OC the cards a bit and run nicehash.

You will get alot more sleep and it will mine away making your the most for the longest.

Don't worry about the fact the 3gb can't mine ethereum. As the moment that ethereum gets more profitable the difficulty of the other coins will drop.

Just my 2c


Title: Re: Which graphics card is best?
Post by: jillscarbrough on December 02, 2017, 10:58:01 AM
The AMD Cards better than NVIDIA for mining Etherium


Title: Re: Which graphics card is best?
Post by: emmybd on December 02, 2017, 11:57:39 AM
One of the best card for Ethereum mining is Radeon R9 295 X2 (8GB). You may not find new units of the card on the market, but you can find used ones. Otherwise, you can use Nvidia GeForce GTX 1060 and 1070, if you want to mine Ether.


Title: Re: Which graphics card is best?
Post by: Undefined31415 on December 02, 2017, 08:41:16 PM
Do keep in mind that, even if you have low power costs, purchasing older power-hungry cards (such as an HD 7990 or R9 295x2), will still up your PSU requirements more than if you were to achieve a similar hashrate with today's cards.

(The general trend is for GPUs to increase in mining efficiency with each generation, but there are exceptions. For example, the RX 570/580s are more power-hungry and provide only marginally greater performance than their 470/480 counterparts.)


Title: Re: Which graphics card is best?
Post by: QuintLeo on December 02, 2017, 08:46:06 PM
So between the 570 and 580 what is the difference?
Also does it matter if its 4 or 8GB? Is the Dag file increase still affecting these cards ?


 580 has a few more cores than the 570, so they usually run a HAIR faster on most stuff. It's not a big difference though, perhaps 1Mh on ETH at most.

 8GB cards normally have faster RAM - 8 Ghz equivilent - where 4GB cards are pretty much always 6.6 or 7 Ghz equivilent ram speed - this makes a NOTICEABLE difference on ETH mining, commonly 2 Mhash.

 Tradeoffs are that the 580 is normally a little more expen$ive than the 570, and 8GB cards cost more than 4GB cards.



 R9 295x2 is an awesome ETH mining card - if you can keep that monster COOL. 500 watt TDP as I recall, and pushing high ETH hashrates needs BIOS modification and is going to soak a TON of power generating a TON of heat.
 It's is that generation's version of the Fury Duo - 2 GPUs on one card (R9 290 or R9 290x, I forget which offhand) with 4GB RAM for each GPU.

 I don't think it's worth DOUBLE the cost of a R9 290, due to the cooling issues - but it does make for compact rigs.
 It also counts as 2 GPUs against driver limits - the only thing it really saves on is physical slots.



Title: Re: Which graphics card is best?
Post by: Basmic on December 02, 2017, 09:08:34 PM
I have RX 580 4GB have the same performance as the RX 580 8GB. I don't see any reason to spend the extra money. When I built my first rig I tried to buy all the most expensive. After I figured out the peculiarities of mining I built a second rig. It cost me 40% cheaper. However, she produces as many coins as expensive. Conclusion what shines is not always gold.


Title: Re: Which graphics card is best?
Post by: Cereberus on December 02, 2017, 09:17:33 PM
There is a new king in town if you are in for the long run then you should definitely get at least 2 Vega RX 56 cards and a motherboard that lets you expand up to 19 cards like the Asus Mining Expert Edition. This with only 2 cards will make you 0.001 btc daily and 0.03 btc monthly, a very good amount if you ask me. Then with the passing of time you can add more cards.

If you just want to start and test mining buy at least 2 RX 570/580 cards as they are dagger hashimoto algorithm friendly and you can build a board with 2 of these for as low as 800 USD/EUR .

I stand for the first choice in this moment as RX Vegas will be same as RX 570/580 after 6-10 months meanwhile we don't know for how much mining with RX 570/580 will continue to be profitable.


Title: Re: Which graphics card is best?
Post by: OLDARH on December 02, 2017, 09:18:20 PM
The best graphics card should be universal in relation to different algorithms and in demand on the secondary market among gamers.
So the choice is obvious ...
1070ti
1080ti


Title: Re: Which graphics card is best?
Post by: gomeZLTC on December 04, 2017, 08:04:15 AM
One of the best card for Ethereum mining is Radeon R9 295 X2 (8GB). You may not find new units of the card on the market, but you can find used ones. Otherwise, you can use Nvidia GeForce GTX 1060 and 1070, if you want to mine Ether.

Agree, 295x2 same as using 2 x 290x, U'll get around 60 MHs on Ethash using 295x2.


Title: Re: Which graphics card is best?
Post by: seasonw on December 04, 2017, 08:26:35 AM
One of the best card for Ethereum mining is Radeon R9 295 X2 (8GB). You may not find new units of the card on the market, but you can find used ones. Otherwise, you can use Nvidia GeForce GTX 1060 and 1070, if you want to mine Ether.

Agree, 295x2 same as using 2 x 290x, U'll get around 60 MHs on Ethash using 295x2.

Yes, obviously AMD GPU meet your requirements for mining ethereum. I have no idea why people suggest you Nvidia for ethereum  :-\

If you are looking for new cards, then you can get 470 or 570, these two are good in power consumption.


Title: Re: Which graphics card is best?
Post by: gomeZLTC on December 04, 2017, 09:23:33 AM

Yes, obviously AMD GPU meet your requirements for mining ethereum. I have no idea why people suggest you Nvidia for ethereum  :-\

If you are looking for new cards, then you can get 470 or 570, these two are good in power consumption.

That's the point. But yes, for newest NVIDIA cards (1070ti - 1080ti) also have a good performance on Ethash.


Title: Re: Which graphics card is best?
Post by: crocozino on December 04, 2017, 11:38:59 AM
forget about ETH, take vega 56 or 64 and start to mine xmr
this is the best choice now
rx vs gtx 1060 - take 1070 ti = the best choice for high variety of algorithms to mine and decent speed in them


Title: Re: Which graphics card is best?
Post by: liuqi on December 04, 2017, 11:50:00 AM
In the graphic card list some of the cards giving more hash and over clock performance to mine the altcoins and even mine bitcoin. I see that Nvidia 1070i, Rx 470 and Rx 580 cards. These cards are best among the other miners usable cards and it will give the hash power around 32 MH so if you have a rig with the multiple cards means you will find the more income. If you go with the less number of cards your profit also lesser.


Title: Re: Which graphics card is best?
Post by: henrynguyen on December 04, 2017, 11:51:13 AM
GTX 1070 is the best


Title: Re: Which graphics card is best?
Post by: edwardceng on December 04, 2017, 11:57:33 AM
AMD cards : RX 470,480,580, R9 290, R9 295x2
NVDIA : 1070,1080


Title: Re: Which graphics card is best?
Post by: gomeZLTC on December 04, 2017, 12:03:52 PM
AMD cards : RX 470,480,580, R9 290, R9 295x2
NVDIA : 1070,1080

Don't forget the others AMDs Monster : 390/390x , 7990, Furry/X


Title: Re: Which graphics card is best?
Post by: Dimedroll on December 04, 2017, 12:52:11 PM
GTX 1070 is the best
I think that 1070 is optimal for newbies and if you have more money - 1080 Ti the best choice)


Title: Re: Which graphics card is best?
Post by: peter2147 on December 04, 2017, 01:37:14 PM
I usually use Nividia or RX. These cards are very good at performance and consume less power. After a period of no longer use can use these cards to play the gamer and graphics processing is also very good.


Title: Re: Which graphics card is best?
Post by: edwardceng on December 04, 2017, 03:14:20 PM
I usually use Nividia or RX. These cards are very good at performance and consume less power. After a period of no longer use can use these cards to play the gamer and graphics processing is also very good.
it depend in our fashion, people like you may be comfortable with something that have a low risk, but other people choose to take higher risk.


Title: Re: Which graphics card is best?
Post by: mombay on December 04, 2017, 05:15:24 PM
For beginners I would suggest to go with Nvidia cards. Just play a bit with the OC settings and you're good to go.

1070 would be a very good choice, if you cannot afford 1080 Ti.


Title: Re: Which graphics card is best?
Post by: klavyemaus52 on December 04, 2017, 05:17:01 PM
Nvidia 1060 best graphic card i think for mining low energy good hashrate


Title: Re: Which graphics card is best?
Post by: minerlai on December 04, 2017, 06:22:19 PM
forget about ETH, take vega 56 or 64 and start to mine xmr
this is the best choice now
rx vs gtx 1060 - take 1070 ti = the best choice for high variety of algorithms to mine and decent speed in them
i agree on Vega but too bad they are out of stock mainly.


Title: Re: Which graphics card is best?
Post by: DJMorgan on December 04, 2017, 06:52:12 PM
Use RX 580 8G, all happy, the RX 480 is just hard to find.


Title: Re: Which graphics card is best?
Post by: Mister1k on December 04, 2017, 07:04:11 PM
Use RX 580 8G, all happy, the RX 480 is just hard to find.

Compare with these cards you can get more hash power in Nvidia GTX 1070i cards so you will be best to go with these cards to make more money as a newbie or proficient in GPU mining.  You check the mining thread which speaks with the 1070i cards in altcoin mining section bro.

Then you will be able to understand how much money you can make with these cards. I see you to mine the bitcoin or altcoins with these cards with the more profit. Best coin to mine with this card is monero or zcash. These will be profitable than btc and eth.


Title: Re: Which graphics card is best?
Post by: QuintLeo on December 04, 2017, 09:47:53 PM

Yes, obviously AMD GPU meet your requirements for mining ethereum. I have no idea why people suggest you Nvidia for ethereum  :-\

If you are looking for new cards, then you can get 470 or 570, these two are good in power consumption.

That's the point. But yes, for newest NVIDIA cards (1070ti - 1080ti) also have a good performance on Ethash.

 At current pricing, the 1070 ti and 1080 ti are VERY BAD CHOICES to mine ETH on.

 1070 ti has the SAME hashrate as the 1070 (which is ITSELF a overpriced choice), 1080 ti costs almost DOUBLE a 1070 but only returns about 20% more hashrate - and all 3 cards are BADLY blown away by any RX 470/480/570/580 on hash/$ at recent pricing on the RX cards.


 Vega 56 mining Monero right now is a very good choice - *IF* you can find one under $500 or so.
 Supply seems to have dried up for the time being though, and the 64 while it also does well costs a good bit more than the 56 for nearly identical performance - the Vega is VERY MUCH memory limited in Monero mining, so the extra cores on the 64 don't help noticeably.
 The current price gouging on Vega cards WHEN you can find them at all is making them not so good a choice though - and on anything but Monero they are NOT competative on hash/$ with other options even when the 56 was $449.




Title: Re: Which graphics card is best?
Post by: Vispilio on December 04, 2017, 10:16:12 PM
1080 ti is the most cost efficient both in terms of power consumption and overall mining rig expenses, but you have to find the coins where it can outperform AMD's, and there are a few that are decidedly more profitable than ZCASH to mine with it, but obviously with more price volatility and uncertainty...


Title: Re: Which graphics card is best?
Post by: gomeZLTC on December 05, 2017, 01:53:55 AM
Nvidia 1060 best graphic card i think for mining low energy good hashrate
good hashrate in what coin/algorithm? if only have good hashrate in a few coin (hmmm 1 or 2), i think this card only as alternative.