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Title: BC's gone for good?
Post by: hjeemuli on December 03, 2017, 03:30:12 AM
Hello,

Bitcoin Client Software and Version Number: Bitcoin Core v0.14.1

Operating System: Windows 10 Pro, 64-bit Operating system

System Hardware Specs: Intel i7-2620M with 8 GB RAM and 128 GB SSD
 
Description of Problem: Made a transfer 8th of June 2017 named kaki from Electrum 2.8.2 (not sure what version it was then) to Bitcoin Core and the noticed that I don’t have enough disk space for the blockchain. Transaction showed, if I remember right in BC Core transactions. According to instructions I transferred the data directory to external HDD. Let the blockchain take its course, but I guess at this point the transaction disappeared from BC Core transactions waiting list, and so the Bitcoins never showed either, of course.  I synced the whole blockchain, so not an issue there.
 
Any Related Addresses: (From Electrum)

Inputs (1):

8a2ef97c...adf18643:0   1Daut6w9xrZKj3HtTXvE8qwXL2CkrmBLN6,

Outputs (1):

3DVKD2HVMFpU3c4cLxQonNyysZk8ZNyYm1

Any Related Transaction IDs:Any Related Transaction IDs: Same as above (all I know)

Screenshot(s) of the problem: https://imgur.com/a/D4l55 / https://imgur.com/a/q8j58

Log Files from the Bitcoin Client: https://pastebin.com/index.php?e=2


Any chance getting the coins back? Help would be truly appreciated, thank you.



Title: Re: BC's gone for good?
Post by: TryNinja on December 03, 2017, 04:16:01 AM
Did you make this transaction from your 3DVKD2HVMFpU3c4cLxQonNyysZk8ZNyYm1 address to 2 other addresses? I would suggest you to just dump your private key from Core and import in a different wallet, but looks like the address you send the coins to is now empty.

https://blockchain.info/tx/07a06e30f8e6f4867e49a74ffaebba485d7b6147f5e3bd249486f3d40e7401f9


Title: Re: BC's gone for good?
Post by: aleksej996 on December 03, 2017, 01:54:16 PM
That money, my friend, is long gone. If you sent BTC to 3DVKD2HVMFpU3c4cLxQonNyysZk8ZNyYm1 all I can tell you is that money was spent an hour later and has been going around in many transactions ever since. If you never used that address and you have a private key for it, then you might be infected with malwere.


Title: Re: BC's gone for good?
Post by: hjeemuli on December 05, 2017, 01:24:38 AM
Did you make this transaction from your 3DVKD2HVMFpU3c4cLxQonNyysZk8ZNyYm1 address to 2 other addresses? I would suggest you to just dump your private key from Core and import in a different wallet, but looks like the address you send the coins to is now empty.

https://blockchain.info/tx/07a06e30f8e6f4867e49a74ffaebba485d7b6147f5e3bd249486f3d40e7401f9
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Only one this kaki mTBC 1033. was made on that day. There are no private key in Core for the transaction, no id's whatsoever. Wonder what went wrong that this could have been avoided...not run out of disk space I guess at least...


Title: Re: BC's gone for good?
Post by: hjeemuli on December 05, 2017, 02:08:15 AM
Think there's no possibility that this trx could somehow be salvaged, not even Satoshi Nakamoto? (sry for sarcasm, not exactly Rockefeller here).


Title: Re: BC's gone for good?
Post by: HCP on December 05, 2017, 04:51:51 AM
In a word, NO.

The running out of disk space did not in any way affect or cause any issues with this transaction. The transaction was broadcast and was confirmed. It is final.

The curious thing is that you claim you sent this to a "Bitcoin Core" wallet... yet it was sent to a "3" address, which Bitcoin Core does not create by default... did you create a "SegWit" address (or a MultiSig address) within Bitcoin Core? ???

If not, it would appear that you simply sent the BTC to the wrong address... perhaps you had already copied a Bitcoin address and pasted that by mistake into Electrum instead of the address from your Bitcoin Core wallet? ??? :-\

Transaction showed, if I remember right in BC Core transactions.
It would appear that you are NOT remembering right... as it looks likely that this "3" address (3DVKD2HVMFpU3c4cLxQonNyysZk8ZNyYm1) was NEVER in your Bitcoin Core wallet.


Title: Re: BC's gone for good?
Post by: hjeemuli on December 05, 2017, 05:20:43 AM
In a word, NO.

The running out of disk space did not in any way affect or cause any issues with this transaction. The transaction was broadcast and was confirmed. It is final.

The curious thing is that you claim you sent this to a "Bitcoin Core" wallet... yet it was sent to a "3" address, which Bitcoin Core does not create by default... did you create a "SegWit" address (or a MultiSig address) within Bitcoin Core? ???

If not, it would appear that you simply sent the BTC to the wrong address... perhaps you had already copied a Bitcoin address and pasted that by mistake into Electrum instead of the address from your Bitcoin Core wallet? ??? :-\

Transaction showed, if I remember right in BC Core transactions.
It would appear that you are NOT remembering right... as it looks likely that this "3" address (3DVKD2HVMFpU3c4cLxQonNyysZk8ZNyYm1) was NEVER in your Bitcoin Core wallet.

So wouldn't it be possible to track down to which wallet this address belongs to?



Title: Re: BC's gone for good?
Post by: HCP on December 05, 2017, 06:52:24 AM
Not really... walletexplorer.com seems to think it belongs to a wallet containing some 600+ BTC... so there is a good chance it belongs to either a Bitcoin Exchange (or possibly a bitcoin gambling site.)

The fact the coins were then sent on to another address would support this (exchanges and gambling sites tend to consolidate all the received BTC)

Are you likely to have used an Exchange (or a Gambling site) and possibly pasted that address instead of the address for your Bitcoin Core wallet?


Title: Re: BC's gone for good?
Post by: redsuncrypto on December 05, 2017, 06:54:27 AM
Hello,

Bitcoin Client Software and Version Number: Bitcoin Core v0.14.1

Operating System: Windows 10 Pro, 64-bit Operating system

System Hardware Specs: Intel i7-2620M with 8 GB RAM and 128 GB SSD
 
Description of Problem: Made a transfer 8th of June 2017 named kaki from Electrum 2.8.2 (not sure what version it was then) to Bitcoin Core and the noticed that I don’t have enough disk space for the blockchain. Transaction showed, if I remember right in BC Core transactions. According to instructions I transferred the data directory to external HDD. Let the blockchain take its course, but I guess at this point the transaction disappeared from BC Core transactions waiting list, and so the Bitcoins never showed either, of course.  I synced the whole blockchain, so not an issue there.
 
Any Related Addresses: (From Electrum)

Inputs (1):

8a2ef97c...adf18643:0   1Daut6w9xrZKj3HtTXvE8qwXL2CkrmBLN6,

Outputs (1):

3DVKD2HVMFpU3c4cLxQonNyysZk8ZNyYm1

Any Related Transaction IDs:Any Related Transaction IDs: Same as above (all I know)

Screenshot(s) of the problem: https://imgur.com/a/D4l55 / https://imgur.com/a/q8j58

Log Files from the Bitcoin Client: https://pastebin.com/index.php?e=2


Any chance getting the coins back? Help would be truly appreciated, thank you.


maybe you're infected by malware and the money gone. God bless you


Title: Re: BC's gone for good?
Post by: hjeemuli on December 06, 2017, 12:45:49 AM
Not really... walletexplorer.com seems to think it belongs to a wallet containing some 600+ BTC... so there is a good chance it belongs to either a Bitcoin Exchange (or possibly a bitcoin gambling site.)

The fact the coins were then sent on to another address would support this (exchanges and gambling sites tend to consolidate all the received BTC)

Are you likely to have used an Exchange (or a Gambling site) and possibly pasted that address instead of the address for your Bitcoin Core wallet?

Shortly put: no. Haven't been gambling, at least in BC. Is there a way to contact these instances?


Title: Re: BC's gone for good?
Post by: kahc on December 06, 2017, 01:00:56 AM
Not really... walletexplorer.com seems to think it belongs to a wallet containing some 600+ BTC... so there is a good chance it belongs to either a Bitcoin Exchange (or possibly a bitcoin gambling site.)

The fact the coins were then sent on to another address would support this (exchanges and gambling sites tend to consolidate all the received BTC)

Are you likely to have used an Exchange (or a Gambling site) and possibly pasted that address instead of the address for your Bitcoin Core wallet?

Shortly put: no. Haven't been gambling, at least in BC. Is there a way to contact these instances?


If the info on this site is correct http://bitcoinwhoswho.com/address/1NkeHDjoiPyZp3RLZ2vC5XRKuDZwWoKojg
Then the perpetrator probably used bitbay.net and cashed out to a bitcay card with fake info.


Title: Re: BC's gone for good?
Post by: hjeemuli on December 06, 2017, 08:35:56 AM
Not really... walletexplorer.com seems to think it belongs to a wallet containing some 600+ BTC... so there is a good chance it belongs to either a Bitcoin Exchange (or possibly a bitcoin gambling site.)

The fact the coins were then sent on to another address would support this (exchanges and gambling sites tend to consolidate all the received BTC)

Are you likely to have used an Exchange (or a Gambling site) and possibly pasted that address instead of the address for your Bitcoin Core wallet?

Shortly put: no. Haven't been gambling, at least in BC. Is there a way to contact these instances?


If the info on this site is correct http://bitcoinwhoswho.com/address/1NkeHDjoiPyZp3RLZ2vC5XRKuDZwWoKojg
Then the perpetrator probably used bitbay.net and cashed out to a bitcay card with fake info.

Damn, how could have this been avoided, scanning computer first? Didn't even cross my mind that this would be possible, but much I know...



Title: Re: BC's gone for good?
Post by: HCP on December 06, 2017, 09:05:25 AM
Without knowing exactly how you ended up sending to the "wrong" address... you'll never really know how you could have avoided it.

You seem to think you copy/pasted an address from your Bitcoin Core, but you ended up somehow sending to 3DVKD2HVMFpU3c4cLxQonNyysZk8ZNyYm1... so either you're confused and this transaction is not what you think it is, or you pasted the wrong address.

Pasting the wrong address could have been a "clipboard virus" that detects bitcoin addresses and pastes the thief's address instead of the one you wanted... or it could simply be that you already had a bitcoin address on the clipboard, didn't "copy" the one you wanted... and pasted an old address (probably unlikely as that address has only ever had the 1 deposit).

Are you 100% sure that you remember the who/what/why of this "kaki" transaction? ???


Title: Re: BC's gone for good?
Post by: hjeemuli on December 06, 2017, 08:05:15 PM
Without knowing exactly how you ended up sending to the "wrong" address... you'll never really know how you could have avoided it.

You seem to think you copy/pasted an address from your Bitcoin Core, but you ended up somehow sending to 3DVKD2HVMFpU3c4cLxQonNyysZk8ZNyYm1... so either you're confused and this transaction is not what you think it is, or you pasted the wrong address.

Pasting the wrong address could have been a "clipboard virus" that detects bitcoin addresses and pastes the thief's address instead of the one you wanted... or it could simply be that you already had a bitcoin address on the clipboard, didn't "copy" the one you wanted... and pasted an old address (probably unlikely as that address has only ever had the 1 deposit).

Are you 100% sure that you remember the who/what/why of this "kaki" transaction? ???

To be honest, I'm not very sure at all about anything at this point. Only thing I can think is what dumbass I am. Could have liked the 10 G's though...thnx all for the answers. I'm gonna go and cry my self to sleep now and lay off the bottle if there be a next time...