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Title: Please give your input on this cloud mining platform I invested a lot into
Post by: Us3rm0d on December 03, 2017, 10:37:43 AM
2nd attempt to start a topic and not get moved to the trashcan.

Please <-- (nice pretty word) let me know what you think about the legitimacy of these guys I just paid 3 BTC to.

Check out SierraHash.com

Please respond with your comments to see if we can figure out if this is legit or not.....because the way my math works out we should stop buying miners for personal use....NO POINT!

The platform does have a referral program that gives more hash power but I can't find anything at all negative about these guys and their datacenter is in iceland on Geothermal.
if you would like to repay me for cluing you in to a game changer then ask me for my referral info.....if not then happy mining anyhow!

Thank you <---(another nice phrase) Please don't move this topic to spam! I'm genuinely trying to get a group topic going.

NOT SPAM! OR SOLICITATION! <--FYI


Title: Re: Please give your input on this cloud mining platform I invested a lot into
Post by: Emoclaw on December 03, 2017, 11:00:40 AM
First of all, 3 BTC ($33K) nets you 1289254 GH/s according to that website, which is 1289TH/s.
The best miner currently, which is the Antminer S9, offers 13.5TH/s for $1415. That would make 25 of the Antminers cost $35K for 337TH/s.

There's no way in hell that these guys are giving 5 times the hashrate of the best miner in the world for the same price. And there's also no way that 3BTC will give you a ROI in 10 days as the calculator says, ever.
Also, referral programs are not sustainable at all and are thus huge indicators that the website is a scam.
Sorry for your loss.


Title: Re: Please give your input on this cloud mining platform I invested a lot into
Post by: Spoetnik on December 03, 2017, 11:05:45 AM
Cloud mining shit is considered scammy crap.
They have such a bad reputation they are not listed as scams or not anymore.
They are considered one by default.

Avoid.

..read the scam section here.  ::)


Title: Re: Please give your input on this cloud mining platform I invested a lot into
Post by: master2080 on December 03, 2017, 11:32:57 AM
I never understood the point of cloud mining. If you have the equipment, why sell it for less profit? Where's the logic behind this action?


Title: Re: Please give your input on this cloud mining platform I invested a lot into
Post by: blue_id69 on December 03, 2017, 12:41:26 PM
ah mate, you better use that money to buy real antminer or build your own rig mining by bunch of VGA anyway i never trust acloud mining platform they always end up scam and just for your information there no fast ROI in mining ever thats just ponzi scheme they run, before to late if that website support to sell ghs, sell yours and take your money back


Title: Re: Please give your input on this cloud mining platform I invested a lot into
Post by: JTPhotography on December 03, 2017, 01:00:35 PM
Yikes! Why not use hash flare or genesis?


Title: Re: Please give your input on this cloud mining platform I invested a lot into
Post by: Xavofat on December 03, 2017, 01:08:21 PM
these guys I just paid 3 BTC to.
I don't believe you.  No one could be stupid enough to do this.  You're probably trying to subtly get us to "invest".
Please respond with your comments to see if we can figure out if this is legit or not
It's not a debatable topic.  There is a 100% chance that this group will eventually scam their users or leave. 

I'm pretty sure I've even seen this template on a different Ponzi site as well.


Title: Re: Please give your input on this cloud mining platform I invested a lot into
Post by: Us3rm0d on December 03, 2017, 02:49:34 PM
Well the reason I tossed in 3 btc is because I got an immediate return.....and since I've been mining Foeva I figured what the hell...Those BTC cost ME $20....umm so I'm out $20 big whoop. You guys take **** WAY too serious!

It's paying out so I'm going in with or without you guys and we'll see. Worst case scenario I loose my initial investment of $20

I asked for advice from researchers....not opinionaters or haters


Title: Re: Please give your input on this cloud mining platform I invested a lot into
Post by: Us3rm0d on December 03, 2017, 02:57:17 PM
I bet you didn't know that their webserver was a multi node clustered server behind a load balancer, The Datacenter is in reykjavik iceland on Geothermal Power, and they're running new generation VSLI/ASIC but treating it like top secret.
If it's a ponzi scam or anything why was I able to withdraw everything to my wallet and cash out at a btc ATM today?

I'm curious to see how this plays out.


Title: Re: Please give your input on this cloud mining platform I invested a lot into
Post by: newfix on December 03, 2017, 03:47:56 PM
Don't trust in bitcoin mining, the most of them the are scam/ponzi projects, that only want to steal your money.
If you want to start mining, buy a good hardware and start mining by yourself


Title: Re: Please give your input on this cloud mining platform I invested a lot into
Post by: Xavofat on December 03, 2017, 04:42:15 PM
Worst case scenario I lose my initial investment of $20
You know perfectly well that it's irrelevant how much you bought the BTC for.  At current value, you're investing over $30,000 into a Ponzi scheme. 

For most people, that's over a year's wages.
I asked for advice from researchers....not opinionaters or haters
It's not a topic which warrants debate.  The service has:

-A very prominent, layered referral program
-A very specific return (10% per day)
-Such a high return that in a few years, they would be paying out more money than the amount that exists in the world.


Title: Re: Please give your input on this cloud mining platform I invested a lot into
Post by: btcpepa04 on December 03, 2017, 04:49:27 PM
all poeple think bitcoin cloud mining was ponzi scam


Title: Re: Please give your input on this cloud mining platform I invested a lot into
Post by: Phoenixpple on December 03, 2017, 05:13:52 PM
Don't believe the so-called cloud mining. It's a fraud. I had a friend who had been on a platform for more than a month, and later told him that he did not give him the coins he earned. In fact, he didn't do anything.


Title: Re: Please give your input on this cloud mining platform I invested a lot into
Post by: Us3rm0d on December 04, 2017, 02:45:36 AM
ok...I get the opinions and distrust....TRUST ME! lol

As I said....I paid pennies for my btc so I'm treating it like pennies.

I invested 1 btc in this platform and got it back...now invested 3 btc and just got home from pulling $ from the btc ATM at the head shop by my place which I made from the hash power on Sierra's platform. If I get the rest out over the next couple of months how am I getting scammed???
So at value I put "$30k" 3 btc that cost me a couple of bucks years ago.
I literally just pulled $3000 USD from the magic ether of nothingness Scam???
So you think they're just going to shut down the server before I get the rest?


Title: Re: Please give your input on this cloud mining platform I invested a lot into
Post by: Us3rm0d on December 04, 2017, 02:50:58 AM
I'll update you guys in a few days to let you know if I got my initial investment back....I the site goes down in the next few days you guys can neener neener neener and "I told you so" every day for the next 365 of them. :) I still only lost a few bucks  :P


Title: Re: Please give your input on this cloud mining platform I invested a lot into
Post by: odolvlobo on December 04, 2017, 03:05:15 AM
I'll update you guys in a few days to let you know if I got my initial investment back....I the site goes down in the next few days you guys can neener neener neener and "I told you so" every day for the next 365 of them. :) I still only lost a few bucks  :P

This smells like a scam to me.

You claim that you bought $30,000 of hashing power at a cloud mining site, but you also claim that you are building your own cloud mining facility.

Not only that, but you promote the site on your FB page.

To me, it looks like you are running a scam cloud mining site and trying to hook suckers by pretending that you are just a customer with a good experience.

I predict that in the next few days there will be several posts by you and other newbies (who are really just you) talking about how they are making a good profit at that site.


Title: Re: Please give your input on this cloud mining platform I invested a lot into
Post by: pikebu on December 04, 2017, 03:14:40 AM
all poeple think bitcoin cloud mining was ponzi scam
Yes almost all of people on here, they are thinking that the cloud mining was scam but i don't think that all of the cloud mining services are scam, because i have found trusting cloud mining services like https://www.hashnest.com/ they are really mining the bitcoin and be supported by bitmain for the hardware of miners, unfortunately cloud mining activity is not peofitable because the cost of electrical and the difficulty of bitcoin, so not all of the cloud mining services are scam but they are not peofitable.


Title: Re: Please give your input on this cloud mining platform I invested a lot into
Post by: SamReomo on December 04, 2017, 03:16:16 AM
Cloud mining is not worth your money, and if you really invested 3 BTC into that site then I must say that you made a big mistake. Cloud mining sites for most of the time have been scamming people into putting their money on those sites. It is literally impossible for those companies to provide such mining setups that they promise. These people spend money in advertising to make fools out of newbies. They know the psychology of attracting others attention toward their sites. It is not smart to invest in such kind of sites and if you really want to mine Bitcoin then you should go towards Bitmain s9 Antminer because it is legit and will work for you as long as possible.


Title: Re: Please give your input on this cloud mining platform I invested a lot into
Post by: Us3rm0d on December 04, 2017, 03:19:47 AM
Nope Ditched the facility after investors backed out and my recent Divorce finally stopped burning if you'd like complete honesty.
Damn dude....you and everyone else! SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM....Christ guys how the hell are you going to think outside the box or innovate anything in your life.

Break free and have some faith or trust.....OR both.

Yeah dude! Mr. scammy scam scam I put 3 bitcoin into something I think is going to skyrocket and I've been doing this for years.
I didn't put $30,000 into cloud mining! I put MAX $200! BECAUSE THATS WHAT I PAID FOR MY BITCOIN!!!!!! GOD GET IT???


Title: Re: Please give your input on this cloud mining platform I invested a lot into
Post by: Us3rm0d on December 04, 2017, 03:28:35 AM
Just to be honest...My previous background was Hacking and IT so I'm OK at research.
Do your research on these Sierrahash guys. a little google earth, sniffing for load balancers n such, clustered nodes.....etc. found google earth imagery of the tops of their buildings and traced purchase orders for hybrid VLSI ASICs. Oh and Geothermal power in Iceland using prechilled air from outside to cool =What children?

put your big boy pants on and do research!
I don't care about your Opinion honestly!
Show me facts and stop hating at the fact that I figured out what you didn't and your left with 20 breadracks full of S9s that you're sunk into like my old partner :)


Title: Re: Please give your input on this cloud mining platform I invested a lot into
Post by: Us3rm0d on December 04, 2017, 03:30:20 AM
MIC DROP!

THUD


Title: Re: Please give your input on this cloud mining platform I invested a lot into
Post by: Us3rm0d on December 04, 2017, 03:37:43 AM
I'll update you guys in a few days to let you know if I got my initial investment back....I the site goes down in the next few days you guys can neener neener neener and "I told you so" every day for the next 365 of them. :) I still only lost a few bucks  :P

This smells like a scam to me.

You claim that you bought $30,000 of hashing power at a cloud mining site, but you also claim that you are building your own cloud mining facility.

Not only that, but you promote the site on your FB page.

To me, it looks like you are running a scam cloud mining site and trying to hook suckers by pretending that you are just a customer with a good experience.

I predict that in the next few days there will be several posts by you and other newbies (who are really just you) talking about how they are making a good profit at that site.

I predict that you don't know what your talking about.....Place your feet on your shoulders and push really hard!


Title: Re: Please give your input on this cloud mining platform I invested a lot into
Post by: pooya87 on December 04, 2017, 03:44:21 AM
there is a golden rule my friend that is saying "when something is too good to be true, it is a scam". and in this case as @Emoclaw clearly broke it down for you, this cloudminer is a scam not only because of the fast ROI and the bullshit payments and all but also a cloud miner never has high amount of hashrate. even the legit ones have smaller amounts and if they go above that and sell more they are a Ponzi scheme.


Title: Re: Please give your input on this cloud mining platform I invested a lot into
Post by: wilhb81 on December 04, 2017, 03:49:48 AM
So far, when someone ask me about "Cloud mining", I can only think out of two reputable and reliable online companies - Ge**sis mining & H**hF**re

Other than these two - I won't even look or even consider to try them at all. It's because, majority of them will turn into scam sooner or later...


Title: Re: Please give your input on this cloud mining platform I invested a lot into
Post by: Spoetnik on December 04, 2017, 04:21:50 AM
ok...I get the opinions and distrust....TRUST ME! lol

As I said....I paid pennies for my btc so I'm treating it like pennies.

I invested 1 btc in this platform and got it back...now invested 3 btc and just got home from pulling $ from the btc ATM at the head shop by my place which I made from the hash power on Sierra's platform. If I get the rest out over the next couple of months how am I getting scammed???
So at value I put "$30k" 3 btc that cost me a couple of bucks years ago.
I literally just pulled $3000 USD from the magic ether of nothingness Scam???
So you think they're just going to shut down the server before I get the rest?

Pennies ?

Your shit is starting to REALLY stink now.
Got yourself BTC when it was worth pennies and you created an account here now NOOB ?

I think you are full of shit big time.

And yeah "Cloud Mining" is scammy bullshit.. that is a fact.
Go throw your money at Stakeminers maybe  :D


Title: Re: Please give your input on this cloud mining platform I invested a lot into
Post by: Reid on December 04, 2017, 04:28:54 AM
And when would be the ROI?
Just asking.
But I dont really think that there is one cloud mining that is legitimate. This is all done just for one purpose. Robbery, thievery or scam. All are the same. You wont get anything that is legitimate. Better get out as fast as you can.
Just let that 3btc stay on your wallet. Dont be too greedy to hasten your profit or you will lose it all.


Title: Re: Please give your input on this cloud mining platform I invested a lot into
Post by: Us3rm0d on December 04, 2017, 06:52:36 AM
Agreed....I'm pulling out in another 10 days and see what happens after the 1st.

and to the previous skeptic....Yes I've literally been doing FPU mining since day 1, just because I've kept my head down and put more effort into work rather than trolling forums full of skeptics and putting people down.
 Yes pennies at the beginning...maybe worst case I'm $200 into that 3btc from time, work, power...etc  Why do skeptomaniacs have to nitpick every word you say......Ohh yeah now that I'm blasting YOU with truth you're most likely HATING with a passion!
Now to YOU I'm definitely a "Scammer" especially if I figured out something that YOU didn't and you're going to be sitting on worthless hardware soon ;)
If you put this much effort into research and new ASIC/LVS technology as doing this ---> Activity: 1456 maybe you'd be further along on your journey

Again....be human....Use your mind or if you need to take your shoos off so you don't get dirt on your shirt... firmly plant you feet on the tops of both shoulders and pretend you're doing 200lb squats


Title: Re: Please give your input on this cloud mining platform I invested a lot into
Post by: Us3rm0d on December 04, 2017, 07:00:32 AM
ok...I get the opinions and distrust....TRUST ME! lol

As I said....I paid pennies for my btc so I'm treating it like pennies.

I invested 1 btc in this platform and got it back...now invested 3 btc and just got home from pulling $ from the btc ATM at the head shop by my place which I made from the hash power on Sierra's platform. If I get the rest out over the next couple of months how am I getting scammed???
So at value I put "$30k" 3 btc that cost me a couple of bucks years ago.
I literally just pulled $3000 USD from the magic ether of nothingness Scam???
So you think they're just going to shut down the server before I get the rest?

Pennies ?

Your shit is starting to REALLY stink now.
Got yourself BTC when it was worth pennies and you created an account here now NOOB ?

I think you are full of shit big time.

And yeah "Cloud Mining" is scammy bullshit.. that is a fact.
Go throw your money at Stakeminers maybe  :D

This guy


Title: Re: Please give your input on this cloud mining platform I invested a lot into
Post by: Spoetnik on December 05, 2017, 08:34:21 PM
ok...I get the opinions and distrust....TRUST ME! lol

As I said....I paid pennies for my btc so I'm treating it like pennies.

I invested 1 btc in this platform and got it back...now invested 3 btc and just got home from pulling $ from the btc ATM at the head shop by my place which I made from the hash power on Sierra's platform. If I get the rest out over the next couple of months how am I getting scammed???
So at value I put "$30k" 3 btc that cost me a couple of bucks years ago.
I literally just pulled $3000 USD from the magic ether of nothingness Scam???
So you think they're just going to shut down the server before I get the rest?

Pennies ?

Your shit is starting to REALLY stink now.
Got yourself BTC when it was worth pennies and you created an account here now NOOB ?

I think you are full of shit big time.

And yeah "Cloud Mining" is scammy bullshit.. that is a fact.
Go throw your money at Stakeminers maybe  :D

This guy

Blow me "pennies" Junior.
You are full of shit.
The garbage your spouting off does not add up and your agenda here is fishy.


Title: Re: Please give your input on this cloud mining platform I invested a lot into
Post by: Us3rm0d on December 06, 2017, 02:24:46 AM
Well my last response to the page troll is I MADE $$!
I guess you didn't? and you're butthurt????


Title: Re: Please give your input on this cloud mining platform I invested a lot into
Post by: Nawaytes on December 06, 2017, 03:35:16 AM
I don't believe in cloud mining, they are thieves. And there is a referral comission, is like money game. You don't need referral for being miner, should be like this: people put some money in there and they run the machine. But you don't know about their machine/hardware right? There is no hardware. So, 3 BTC that you sent to them? forget it, you lost them. Sorry.


Title: Re: Please give your input on this cloud mining platform I invested a lot into
Post by: Spoetnik on December 06, 2017, 05:35:29 AM
Well my last response to the page troll is I MADE $$!
I guess you didn't? and you're butthurt????

WOW.
Noob you have no idea how many times some nublet here has fired off that retort at me.
For starters i unlike you have integrity so no, i am not in fact jealous of your cloud mining shenanigans.

Further more little shit i can guarantee i have made more than you and.. i didn't have *SPEND* a single cent of real money doing it.
Can you say that same Mr. "Investment" ?
Kid you are no where near in my league.

I came here and used a dumpster PC to mine a few cents in BTC/LTC then took that and traded my way up to 12 grand then dumped it all for cash money and spent it.

..and i did it with fucking integrity and class little shit.

I never had to create dummy accounts to come here and pour on the schemes lying my ass off with croooked bullshit.

Here i will show you a picture of me lighting money on fire.
You know.. cause i'm jealous & all.  :D

http://i67.tinypic.com/34488w0.jpg

What i think is going on here is you are trying to scam others with cloud mining crap.
What you have been saying on this topic is nothing but lies & bullshit and games.



EDIT:

By the way.. i dumped when it did because i seen the scene changing and i did not like where it was heading.

SCAMMY.

I dumped because people like YOU were showing up.
Thanks for that.  ::)


Title: Re: Please give your input on this cloud mining platform I invested a lot into
Post by: Us3rm0d on December 06, 2017, 06:17:33 AM
Absolutely NO, NADA, ZERO Scamming from me buddy....No bad feelings! Please.
I just saw something that looked like a big wave and grabbed my board.
You're 1000% right!!
I may just head face first for a rock! But I'm all in now so Capitol F it!

Sorry again bro!


Title: Re: Please give your input on this cloud mining platform I invested a lot into
Post by: Slow death on December 06, 2017, 11:15:51 AM
I bet you didn't know that their webserver was a multi node clustered server behind a load balancer, The Datacenter is in reykjavik iceland on Geothermal Power, and they're running new generation VSLI/ASIC but treating it like top secret.

How do you know that? on the site has: " Datacenter Location - Iceland, Reaykjvik "
Can you show proof of these things you said?

If it's a ponzi scam or anything why was I able to withdraw everything to my wallet and cash out at a btc ATM today?
I'm curious to see how this plays out.

They pay in the first days to encourage first investors to recruit more investors and these new investors when they see some payments convince that the site is paying



It's paying out so I'm going in with or without you guys and we'll see. Worst case scenario I loose my initial investment of $20

You are the owner of this ponzi site


I asked for advice from researchers....not opinionaters or haters

You're advertising this ponzi site.


Title: Re: Please give your input on this cloud mining platform I invested a lot into
Post by: Spoetnik on December 07, 2017, 07:55:51 AM
Re-Read your topic title.
Then the replies you got *in order*.
You received a fair response.. then you went on to defend it and not too well i might add.
Your later replies seem a little fishy combined with your context (a noob account here)

You asked.. and you got what you asked for.
You got your "input" as instructed.


Title: Re: Please give your input on this cloud mining platform I invested a lot into
Post by: zikabra on December 07, 2017, 08:01:55 PM
Lets see if I got this:
You invested 3 bitcoins to ponzi and you want our opinion?
My opinion:
You invested 3 bitcoins in scam.