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Post by: Vladimir on July 06, 2013, 10:53:13 PM
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Title: Re: When will Bitcoin hit 1000$ ?
Post by: zachcope on July 06, 2013, 11:13:06 PM
In for the bullish ride with Vlad on this one!


Title: Re: When will Bitcoin hit 1000$ ?
Post by: statdude on July 06, 2013, 11:15:23 PM
Reasonable argument.

Use HAS gone 10 fold over the last two 18 month periods.

Can it do it again?


Title: Re: When will Bitcoin hit 1000$ ?
Post by: chriswilmer on July 06, 2013, 11:16:39 PM
End of 2014 seems reasonable. Bitcoin is full of surprises though ;)


Title: Re: When will Bitcoin hit 1000$ ?
Post by: Akka on July 06, 2013, 11:23:33 PM
Is all this really so important?

What bitcoin really needs are some special use cases that provide real value.

Also some stability would be preferable to massive growth.

IMO a Bitcoin that is traded at $1 put provides a true alternative to existing payment providers and currency as well as a save heaven for value is "worth" more than an overinflated Bitcoin at $10,000 that could collapse any second.

Would someone really want to store his live savings in a currency that could loose half it's value in one day? This person would not sleep well a single night.

For this reason alone I don't think we will see some massive growth in the short to mid term. Bitcoin will need to proof first that it can actually hold some value before serious investors will risk to put their money into it or enough time needs to pass that the latest events can be forgotten.


Title: Re: When will Bitcoin hit 1000$ ?
Post by: tokeweed on July 06, 2013, 11:33:52 PM
on thursday.


Title: Re: When will Bitcoin hit 1000$ ?
Post by: evolve on July 07, 2013, 12:00:16 AM
Random Valdamir quote:

Before long 100$ will be a typical daily price increase. Yea you can call me a nut if you want to.


Yeah, that didn't exactly pan out now, did it?

I put exactly as much faith into your current prediction.



Title: Re: When will Bitcoin hit 1000$ ?
Post by: xristoskostouros on July 07, 2013, 12:25:16 AM
I predict 1 BTC = 1 US Dollar
And i put all my money on this bet :)


Title: Re: When will Bitcoin hit 1000$ ?
Post by: tinus42 on July 07, 2013, 12:31:34 AM
Never make wild predictions. Then you're never wrong. ;)


Title: Re: When will Bitcoin hit 1000$ ?
Post by: telemaco on July 07, 2013, 12:38:18 AM
today around 23 Moon Central Time


Title: Re: When will Bitcoin hit 1000$ ?
Post by: chufchuf on July 07, 2013, 03:18:08 AM


IMO a Bitcoin that is traded at $1 put provides a true alternative to existing payment providers and currency as well as a save heaven for value is "worth" more than an overinflated Bitcoin at $10,000 that could collapse any second.



Doesn't PPCoin inflate to adjust to normal outside world prices. It could be used as a hedge for those not looking for a strong gold like currency.


Title: Re: When will Bitcoin hit 1000$ ?
Post by: uhoh on July 07, 2013, 03:23:56 AM
Never make wild predictions. Then you're never wrong. ;)

Just make two, then you're always right  :)


Title: Re: When will Bitcoin hit 1000$ ?
Post by: Foxpup on July 07, 2013, 03:39:01 AM
Also some stability would be preferable to massive growth.

IMO a Bitcoin that is traded at $1 put provides a true alternative to existing payment providers and currency as well as a save heaven for value is "worth" more than an overinflated Bitcoin at $10,000 that could collapse any second.
Can't have one without the other. Bitcoin can't possibly be stable at $1, since that would imply a market cap of at most $21M. All it takes is for some eccentric millionaire to think "Hey, this Bitcoin thing seems like a good place to dump my millions!" and the price skyrockets overnight. But at $10,000, with a $210B market cap, the price will not affected so easily.

Random Valdamir quote:

Before long 100$ will be a typical daily price increase. Yea you can call me a nut if you want to.


Yeah, that didn't exactly pan out now, did it?

I put exactly as much faith into your current prediction.
He said "before long", and it hasn't yet been long. Unless you consider 3 months to be a long time. ::)


Title: Re: When will Bitcoin hit 1000$ ?
Post by: evolve on July 07, 2013, 03:44:25 AM
If you think that $100 a day price increase is coming true anytime soon (or at all) you are very delusional.

Hell, I doubt Vladamir ever actually believed it...I personally think he is playing on people's naïveté.


Title: Re: When will Bitcoin hit 1000$ ?
Post by: chufchuf on July 07, 2013, 05:33:05 AM
If you think that $100 a day price increase is coming true anytime soon (or at all) you are very delusional.

Hell, I doubt Vladamir ever actually believed it...I personally think he is playing on people's naïveté.

Hey vulva, why all the rage, didnt you get any coinsies last year. You've had four years to do so!


Title: Re: When will Bitcoin hit 1000$ ?
Post by: Wagner2014 on July 07, 2013, 05:50:18 AM
To the OP:

Looking at the chart, which do you think we are most likely to get close to first?

$1000 or $10?

http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/chart.png?width=939.76666&m=mtgoxUSD&SubmitButton=Draw&r=360&i=&c=0&s=&e=&Prev=&Next=&t=S&b=&a1=&m1=10&a2=&m2=25&x=0&i1=&i2=&i3=&i4=&v=1&cv=0&ps=0&l=0&p=0&


Title: Re: When will Bitcoin hit 1000$ ?
Post by: b!z on July 07, 2013, 08:37:37 AM
1000 tomorrow!  ;D


Title: Re: When will Bitcoin hit 1000$ ?
Post by: bitleif on July 07, 2013, 10:31:03 AM
I think it's reasonable to expect there to be another bubble at some point in the future, history tends to repeat itself. It might be one or two years.

Bubbles coincide with euphoria, and for that to happen we obviously have to shoot higher than the current bubble did (nobody is going to get excited for $260 again - we need to go much higher.) Maybe passing $1000 will be the thing that TRIGGERS the next bubble, I don't know.


Title: Re: When will Bitcoin hit 1000$ ?
Post by: fr33d0miz3r on July 07, 2013, 10:35:29 AM
I think it's reasonable to expect there to be another bubble at some point in the future, history tends to repeat itself. It might be one or two years.

Bubbles coincide with euphoria, and for that to happen we obviously have to shoot higher than the current bubble did (nobody is going to get excited for $260 again - we need to go much higher.) Maybe passing $1000 will be the thing that TRIGGERS the next bubble, I don't know.

I expect the $3000 high for the next bubble


Title: Re: When will Bitcoin hit 1000$ ?
Post by: fleabag on July 07, 2013, 12:52:01 PM
how bout getting back to $100 first sheesh ;)


Title: Re: When will Bitcoin hit 1000$ ?
Post by: bitcoin44me on July 07, 2013, 12:53:21 PM
tonight prolly


Title: Re: When will Bitcoin hit 1000$ ?
Post by: DoomDumas on July 07, 2013, 01:52:12 PM
1000$ within 4 years


Title: Re: When will Bitcoin hit 1000$ ?
Post by: xristoskostouros on July 07, 2013, 08:42:04 PM
Guys get serious. It will never, ever hit $1000. Like Ever.


Title: Re: When will Bitcoin hit 1000$ ?
Post by: Spaceman_Spiff on July 07, 2013, 08:52:23 PM
Guys get serious. It will never, ever hit $1000. Like Ever.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=27348.0


Title: Re: When will Bitcoin hit 1000$ ?
Post by: Einewton on July 07, 2013, 09:00:09 PM
Guys get serious. It will never, ever hit $1000. Like Ever.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=27348.0

Great find! I like how the OP worded the title: "When will Bitcoin hit 1000$ ?" because it'll get there, it's just fun to speculate the when.


Title: Re: When will Bitcoin hit 1000$ ?
Post by: xristoskostouros on July 07, 2013, 09:00:41 PM
Guys get serious. It will never, ever hit $1000. Like Ever.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=27348.0

So.. whats your point?


Title: Re: When will Bitcoin hit 1000$ ?
Post by: Spaceman_Spiff on July 07, 2013, 09:02:43 PM
Guys get serious. It will never, ever hit $1000. Like Ever.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=27348.0

Great find! I like how the OP worded the title: "When will Bitcoin hit 1000$ ?" because it'll get there, it's just fun to speculate the when.

Yes, I believe this as well. But honestly from a contrarian point of view, it's a bit unsettling to see how many people believe that bitcoin will keep rising, and there will be a next bubble coming up.  90% of the "bears" on the forums are actually mid-term bears but long-term bulls.


Title: Re: When will Bitcoin hit 1000$ ?
Post by: Spaceman_Spiff on July 07, 2013, 09:04:26 PM
Guys get serious. It will never, ever hit $1000. Like Ever.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=27348.0

So.. whats your point?

People that claim that bitcoin will never do X, have been proven wrong quite some times before.  Can you give a good argument why bitcoin will never reach $1000?


Title: Re: When will Bitcoin hit 1000$ ?
Post by: xristoskostouros on July 07, 2013, 09:11:49 PM
I can give you this:
I bet all my money and btc in that. Thats all i have to say. Something that has no physical substance is limited. Thats the big truth. Noone understands. I do.
BTC may go as low as 1 BTC = 1 US Dollar and as high as 1 Gold Pound, but thats it.
At least for now.
If those ASIC companies were never created, the coin would reach $1000 for sure. Now it cant.


Title: Re: When will Bitcoin hit 1000$ ?
Post by: Spaceman_Spiff on July 07, 2013, 09:14:18 PM
Thats the big truth. Noone understands. I do.

Awesome, I didn't know I was talking to a super-genius, my apologies, I'll never question your opinions again !

These forums are great fun  ;D .


Title: Re: When will Bitcoin hit 1000$ ?
Post by: Einewton on July 07, 2013, 09:15:40 PM
If those ASIC companies were never created, the coin would reach $1000 for sure. Now it cant.

I disagree with you here... The miners certainly have an effect on the price of BTC, however they don't control it. If anything, it's caused BTC to drop, and it will continue to drop even more over time, then it will come back like a Phoenix Rising from the Ashes.


Title: Re: When will Bitcoin hit 1000$ ?
Post by: xristoskostouros on July 07, 2013, 09:16:17 PM
Thats the big truth. Noone understands. I do.

Awesome, I didn't know I was talking to a super-genius, my apologies, I'll never question your opinions again !

These forums are great fun  ;D .

Yes, when irony is the last resort, it trully is funny.


Title: Re: When will Bitcoin hit 1000$ ?
Post by: Spaceman_Spiff on July 07, 2013, 09:18:20 PM

Cool Heteroptera in your profile pic.  It's shield sorta looks like an upside-down Lego face  :) .


Title: Re: When will Bitcoin hit 1000$ ?
Post by: xristoskostouros on July 07, 2013, 09:18:57 PM
If those ASIC companies were never created, the coin would reach $1000 for sure. Now it cant.

I disagree with you here... The miners certainly have an effect on the price of BTC, however they don't control it. If anything, it's caused BTC to drop, and it will continue to drop even more over time, then it will come back like a Phoenix Rising from the Ashes.

I Totally agree with you in the part where the Phoenix will rise from the ashes but for this to happen, they must all stop mining, wait for the difficulty to drop, then re-start again but, will the demand rise again? Given in time, other coins may have more power e.x Litecoin, which seems pretty stable at the time.

On the other hand, if things go like it is, BTC will get centralized for sure, 100%. And yes, then its all over unless the community reacts (in teams).


Title: Re: When will Bitcoin hit 1000$ ?
Post by: Spaceman_Spiff on July 07, 2013, 09:19:26 PM
Thats the big truth. Noone understands. I do.

Awesome, I didn't know I was talking to a super-genius, my apologies, I'll never question your opinions again !

These forums are great fun  ;D .

Yes, when irony is the last resort, it trully is funny.

It's true, I couldn't deal with your superior argumentation or mastery of the english language, so I resorted to humor as an easy escape.


Title: Re: When will Bitcoin hit 1000$ ?
Post by: xristoskostouros on July 07, 2013, 09:23:14 PM
Thats the big truth. Noone understands. I do.

Awesome, I didn't know I was talking to a super-genius, my apologies, I'll never question your opinions again !

These forums are great fun  ;D .

Yes, when irony is the last resort, it trully is funny.

It's true, I couldn't deal with your superior argumentation or mastery of the english language, so I resorted to humor as an easy escape.

English language is just for people. Ancient Greek, is for us. I m sorry.


Title: Re: When will Bitcoin hit 1000$ ?
Post by: Spaceman_Spiff on July 07, 2013, 09:25:44 PM
Thats the big truth. Noone understands. I do.

Awesome, I didn't know I was talking to a super-genius, my apologies, I'll never question your opinions again !

These forums are great fun  ;D .

Yes, when irony is the last resort, it trully is funny.

It's true, I couldn't deal with your superior argumentation or mastery of the english language, so I resorted to humor as an easy escape.

English language is just for people. Ancient Greek, is for us. I m sorry.

So not only are you a super-genius, but you are Greek god now?  Do you happen to bunk with rpietila? 


Title: Re: When will Bitcoin hit 1000$ ?
Post by: xristoskostouros on July 07, 2013, 09:27:55 PM
Thats the big truth. Noone understands. I do.

Awesome, I didn't know I was talking to a super-genius, my apologies, I'll never question your opinions again !

These forums are great fun  ;D .

Yes, when irony is the last resort, it trully is funny.

It's true, I couldn't deal with your superior argumentation or mastery of the english language, so I resorted to humor as an easy escape.

English language is just for people. Ancient Greek, is for us. I m sorry.

So not only are you a super-genius, but you are Greek god now? 

I am so sorry that your brain is no better than Obama's. U couldnt understand about the Anciet Greek language, could you. U thought about Greek gods because you feel that you are currently talking to one i think, lol.
Wups, wheres my english? my bad.


Title: Re: When will Bitcoin hit 1000$ ?
Post by: Spaceman_Spiff on July 07, 2013, 09:31:45 PM
I am so sorry that your brain is no better than Obama's. U couldnt understand about the Anciet Greek language, could you. U thought about Greek gods because you feel that you are currently talking to one i think, lol.
Wups, wheres my english? my bad.

1) I am not an american.  English is not my native language.
2) You are not even funny anymore, goodbye!


Title: Re: When will Bitcoin hit 1000$ ?
Post by: freethink2013 on July 07, 2013, 09:32:57 PM
3086 Probably early may.


Title: Re: When will Bitcoin hit 1000$ ?
Post by: xristoskostouros on July 07, 2013, 09:34:13 PM
I am so sorry that your brain is no better than Obama's. U couldnt understand about the Anciet Greek language, could you. U thought about Greek gods because you feel that you are currently talking to one i think, lol.
Wups, wheres my english? my bad.

1) I am not an american.  English is not my native language.
2) You are not even funny anymore, goodbye!

Goodbye, maybe tomorrow we can talk as funny friends :D


Title: Re: When will Bitcoin hit 1000$ ?
Post by: monkeybars on July 08, 2013, 04:44:14 PM
I predict Bitcoin will hit 1000 during a spike in Spring 2014, but won't have a stable 1000 price until around October 2014.


Title: Re: When will Bitcoin hit 1000$ ?
Post by: painlord2k on July 08, 2013, 11:02:12 PM
I predict Bitcoin will hit 1000 during a spike in Spring 2014, but won't have a stable 1000 price until around October 2014.

Given the shitstorm (TM) preparing in the bank system somewhere (probably France, Germany or Italy) BTC could hit 1.000$ before years end.
There is nothing pushing bitcoin like some financial meltdown somewhere.



Title: Re: When will Bitcoin hit 1000$ ?
Post by: massivebitman on July 09, 2013, 08:53:03 AM
I think it's reasonable to expect there to be another bubble at some point in the future, history tends to repeat itself. It might be one or two years.

Bubbles coincide with euphoria, and for that to happen we obviously have to shoot higher than the current bubble did (nobody is going to get excited for $260 again - we need to go much higher.) Maybe passing $1000 will be the thing that TRIGGERS the next bubble, I don't know.

Haha... I'd get excited for $260 again... Very excited!!!


Title: Re: When will Bitcoin hit 1000$ ?
Post by: Akka on July 09, 2013, 09:02:33 AM
People here still sound like that want a new bubble to happen.

Guys, bubbles are a bad think expect for a hand full of speculators. A bubble means there will be a crash afterwards, that hurts the legitimacy of Bitcoin.

How about a steady and real growth instead?


Title: Re: When will Bitcoin hit 1000$ ?
Post by: candoo on July 09, 2013, 09:05:28 AM
People here still sound like that want a new bubble to happen.

Guys, bubbles are a bad think expect for a hand full of speculators. A bubble means there will be a crash afterwards, that hurts the legitimacy of Bitcoin.

How about a steady and real growth instead?

Bitcoin worth less then 1$

First Bubble -> Bitcoin hit 30$

Bitcoin steady worh 5-7~ USD after that bubble.

Second bubble -> Bitcoin 250$

Bitcoin steady worth 80-100 $

Third Bubble -> Bitcoin 750 $

bitcoin steady worth 200 $

every bubble leaves us a bit more worth coins


Title: Re: When will Bitcoin hit 1000$ ?
Post by: paraipan on July 09, 2013, 09:07:47 AM
People here still sound like that want a new bubble to happen.

Guys, bubbles are a bad think expect for a hand full of speculators. A bubble means there will be a crash afterwards, that hurts the legitimacy of Bitcoin.

How about a steady and real growth instead?

Bitcoin worth less then 1$

First Bubble -> Bitcoin hit 30$

Bitcoin steady worh 5-7~ USD after that bubble.

Second bubble -> Bitcoin 250$

Bitcoin steady worth 80-100 $

Third Bubble -> Bitcoin 750 $

bitcoin steady worth 200 $

every bubble leaves us a bit more worth coins

^this seems more like it


Title: Re: When will Bitcoin hit 1000$ ?
Post by: monkeybars on July 09, 2013, 05:58:06 PM
Bitcoin worth less then 1$

First Bubble -> Bitcoin hit 30$

Bitcoin steady worh 5-7~ USD after that bubble.

Second bubble -> Bitcoin 250$

Bitcoin steady worth 80-100 $

Third Bubble -> Bitcoin 750 $

bitcoin steady worth 200 $

Why not keep the ratios steady?

<1 / 30 / 6
6 / 266 / 75
75 / 3325 / $780


Title: Re: When will Bitcoin hit 1000$ ?
Post by: derpinheimer on July 09, 2013, 06:02:26 PM
Bitcoin worth less then 1$

First Bubble -> Bitcoin hit 30$

Bitcoin steady worh 5-7~ USD after that bubble.

Second bubble -> Bitcoin 250$

Bitcoin steady worth 80-100 $

Third Bubble -> Bitcoin 750 $

bitcoin steady worth 200 $

Why not keep the ratios steady?

<1 / 30 / 6
6 / 266 / 75
75 / 3325 / $780

https://i.imgur.com/VS5i3Qt.png?1


Title: Re: When will Bitcoin hit 1000$ ?
Post by: Adrian-x on July 09, 2013, 08:19:25 PM
People here still sound like that want a new bubble to happen.

Guys, bubbles are a bad think expect for a hand full of speculators. A bubble means there will be a crash afterwards, that hurts the legitimacy of Bitcoin.

How about a steady and real growth instead?

How about long dry spells with a few unpredicted and random bubbles instead?

Steady growth on a log chart looks somewhat exponential, and not everyone views Bitcoin the same way, so bubbles will happen, it is part of the distribution mechanism, and so is the random time between them (or lack of a guaranteed bubble), even a steady decline helps distribute the coins, this is what allows Bitcoin to grow, embrace volatility it will add value to the few coins you manage save.

The love for tulips was propagated by a bubble, they can't be all bad, see tulips are everywhere now.