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Title: AUCTION ended, 2014 Cryptonic pure silver Monero
Post by: Vigens on December 05, 2017, 01:18:02 PM
Auction ended, first ever pure silver Cryptonic Monero.[/size]

Coin ID: 1KingCK RP1hm14
First batch of pure silver Moneroj 2014
Release date: 2015-05-21

.999 Fine Silver Monero. Weight: 1.08 Oz. Diameter 34 mm. Thickness 3 mm. First batch of pure silver Moneroj ever created. It has the following words on the front side of the coin: VIVU LA FINANCA LIBERECO. 21 coins in batch. Very first coin in this batch is minted specially for the King of the Crypto Kingdom.

Images from https://imgur.com/a/ICsVJ (https://imgur.com/a/ICsVJ)

Starting price: 2BTC
Bid Increment: 0.1BTC
Buy it now price: 4BTC

Auction will end on 9th of December at 12pm Helsinki time!


Title: Re: AUCTION: 2014 Cryptonic pure silver Monero
Post by: dolphriends on December 05, 2017, 01:29:14 PM
Nice looking coin


Title: Re: AUCTION: 2014 Cryptonic pure silver Monero
Post by: krogothmanhattan on December 05, 2017, 01:47:46 PM
Nice coin but

 but starting price?: 2BTC BTC :o


Title: Re: AUCTION: 2014 Cryptonic pure silver Monero
Post by: dazedfool on December 05, 2017, 02:51:39 PM
Nice coin but

 but starting price?: 2BTC BTC :o

This is a bargain compared to what he was asking back in August  ;)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2059427.0


Title: Re: AUCTION: 2014 Cryptonic pure silver Monero
Post by: TMAN on December 05, 2017, 02:54:00 PM
Nice coin but

 but starting price?: 2BTC BTC :o

This is bargain compared to what he was asking back in August  ;)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2059427.0

he has reduced the crack usage since then bud.


Title: Re: AUCTION: 2014 Cryptonic pure silver Monero
Post by: Vigens on December 05, 2017, 03:12:30 PM
Nice coin but

 but starting price?: 2BTC BTC :o

This is bargain compared to what he was asking back in August  ;)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2059427.0

he has reduced the crack usage since then bud.

I missed you guys. Yes no crack for me unfortunately.


Title: Re: AUCTION: 2014 Cryptonic pure silver Monero
Post by: hybridsole on December 05, 2017, 06:00:44 PM
Still an insane valuation for what amounts to a hunk of silver with an "M" on it.   I'm a big fan of XMR but there's nothing about this coin that deserves more than a few hundred dollars.  $22k minimum?  Keep dreaming. 


Title: Re: AUCTION: 2014 Cryptonic pure silver Monero
Post by: greenplastic on December 05, 2017, 06:04:07 PM
I'll bid 0.066BTC, if things get desperate.  :D


Title: Re: AUCTION: 2014 Cryptonic pure silver Monero
Post by: owlcatz on December 05, 2017, 06:05:59 PM
For reference, I just paid 1100 USD for one of these, but it was from Run #2, with only 10 made. Good luck, Vigens! ;D


Title: Re: AUCTION: 2014 Cryptonic pure silver Monero
Post by: dolphriends on December 05, 2017, 06:09:34 PM
Wow, out of my price range.  Good luck


Title: Re: AUCTION: 2014 Cryptonic pure silver Monero
Post by: krogothmanhattan on December 05, 2017, 06:10:26 PM
Nice coin but

 but starting price?: 2BTC BTC :o

This is bargain compared to what he was asking back in August  ;)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2059427.0

LOL damn what a bargain Dazed! Your funny! :D


Title: Re: AUCTION: 2014 Cryptonic pure silver Monero
Post by: Vigens on December 05, 2017, 06:13:00 PM
Still an insane valuation for what amounts to a hunk of silver with an "M" on it.   I'm a big fan of XMR but there's nothing about this coin that deserves more than a few hundred dollars.  $22k minimum?  Keep dreaming. 

Few hundred dollars for first silver Cryptonic Monero? I have no clue why you are hating on this fine piece of collectible. Is it it jealousy or desire to own something like this and just troll and make it look like these coins are not worth anything. Crypto world is growing insanely and these collectibles will be worth millions. That is just my opinion.


Title: Re: AUCTION: 2014 Cryptonic pure silver Monero
Post by: hybridsole on December 05, 2017, 06:26:29 PM
Still an insane valuation for what amounts to a hunk of silver with an "M" on it.   I'm a big fan of XMR but there's nothing about this coin that deserves more than a few hundred dollars.  $22k minimum?  Keep dreaming. 

Few hundred dollars for first silver Cryptonic Monero? I have no clue why you are hating on this fine piece of collectible. Is it it jealousy or desire to own something like this and just troll and make it look like these coins are not worth anything. Crypto world is growing insanely and these collectibles will be worth millions. That is just my opinion.

Maybe I should restate it.  There's nothing about this coin that warrants a starting price above a few hundred dollars.  The market for this coin is small.  They have to be 1. into XMR, 2. collectors of physical cryptos, and 3. willing to pay high premium for an unfunded / non-DIY coin.  Perhaps to the right buyer, this is worth $1000-2000.  But personally I would spend that $1-2k on a loaded Lealana 5 XMR (which is also in that range and contains spendable XMR that will appreciate over time). 


Title: Re: AUCTION: 2014 Cryptonic pure silver Monero
Post by: Vigens on December 05, 2017, 08:06:24 PM
Still an insane valuation for what amounts to a hunk of silver with an "M" on it.   I'm a big fan of XMR but there's nothing about this coin that deserves more than a few hundred dollars.  $22k minimum?  Keep dreaming. 

Few hundred dollars for first silver Cryptonic Monero? I have no clue why you are hating on this fine piece of collectible. Is it it jealousy or desire to own something like this and just troll and make it look like these coins are not worth anything. Crypto world is growing insanely and these collectibles will be worth millions. That is just my opinion.

Maybe I should restate it.  There's nothing about this coin that warrants a starting price above a few hundred dollars.  The market for this coin is small.  They have to be 1. into XMR, 2. collectors of physical cryptos, and 3. willing to pay high premium for an unfunded / non-DIY coin.  Perhaps to the right buyer, this is worth $1000-2000.  But personally I would spend that $1-2k on a loaded Lealana 5 XMR (which is also in that range and contains spendable XMR that will appreciate over time). 

I also got some of those if anyone is interested.


Title: Re: AUCTION: 2014 Cryptonic pure silver Monero
Post by: wheelz1200 on December 05, 2017, 08:18:47 PM
Still an insane valuation for what amounts to a hunk of silver with an "M" on it.   I'm a big fan of XMR but there's nothing about this coin that deserves more than a few hundred dollars.  $22k minimum?  Keep dreaming.  

Few hundred dollars for first silver Cryptonic Monero? I have no clue why you are hating on this fine piece of collectible. Is it it jealousy or desire to own something like this and just troll and make it look like these coins are not worth anything. Crypto world is growing insanely and these collectibles will be worth millions. That is just my opinion.

The beauty of collectables is that these are "worth" what someone else will pay for it.  I can think my 1986 super Mario lava lamp is worth $15 million but if "the market" says it's worth $15 bucks well guess what.....what you are selling the market here (not saying it's the only crypto physical market) put it more in the $1k range that is what it is worth.  It might have some more value to you personally but you can't determine what the market values something at.

Edit: this is unfunded and to put a perspective of things for you: Coblee as recently as this year was selling some of his unfunded 1000btc casascius coins (which also contain 1oz gold) for $14k.....


Title: Re: AUCTION: 2014 Cryptonic pure silver Monero
Post by: hybridsole on December 05, 2017, 08:30:39 PM
Still an insane valuation for what amounts to a hunk of silver with an "M" on it.   I'm a big fan of XMR but there's nothing about this coin that deserves more than a few hundred dollars.  $22k minimum?  Keep dreaming. 

Few hundred dollars for first silver Cryptonic Monero? I have no clue why you are hating on this fine piece of collectible. Is it it jealousy or desire to own something like this and just troll and make it look like these coins are not worth anything. Crypto world is growing insanely and these collectibles will be worth millions. That is just my opinion.

Maybe I should restate it.  There's nothing about this coin that warrants a starting price above a few hundred dollars.  The market for this coin is small.  They have to be 1. into XMR, 2. collectors of physical cryptos, and 3. willing to pay high premium for an unfunded / non-DIY coin.  Perhaps to the right buyer, this is worth $1000-2000.  But personally I would spend that $1-2k on a loaded Lealana 5 XMR (which is also in that range and contains spendable XMR that will appreciate over time). 

I also got some of those if anyone is interested.

How much are you asking? Please don't say $50k  :D


Title: Re: AUCTION: 2014 Cryptonic pure silver Monero
Post by: wheelz1200 on December 05, 2017, 08:31:55 PM
Still an insane valuation for what amounts to a hunk of silver with an "M" on it.   I'm a big fan of XMR but there's nothing about this coin that deserves more than a few hundred dollars.  $22k minimum?  Keep dreaming.  

Few hundred dollars for first silver Cryptonic Monero? I have no clue why you are hating on this fine piece of collectible. Is it it jealousy or desire to own something like this and just troll and make it look like these coins are not worth anything. Crypto world is growing insanely and these collectibles will be worth millions. That is just my opinion.

Maybe I should restate it.  There's nothing about this coin that warrants a starting price above a few hundred dollars.  The market for this coin is small.  They have to be 1. into XMR, 2. collectors of physical cryptos, and 3. willing to pay high premium for an unfunded / non-DIY coin.  Perhaps to the right buyer, this is worth $1000-2000.  But personally I would spend that $1-2k on a loaded Lealana 5 XMR (which is also in that range and contains spendable XMR that will appreciate over time).  

I also got some of those if anyone is interested.

How much are you asking? Please don't say $50k  :D

21 million bitcoin, you need to find satoshi before you can buy it.  Nab his keys then buy the coin


Title: Re: AUCTION: 2014 Cryptonic pure silver Monero
Post by: ChiBitCTy on December 05, 2017, 08:51:29 PM
You've also got to keep in mind technically this coin could be copied by a skilled mint, and a pretty good copy could be made.  Not being a funded coin with holo's/addresses and what not obviously makes that easier.  It also isn't going to be easily identifyable like a US Fiat coin would be to a trained eye, for ex. No one is trolling though, just a very highly priced item and explaining why it's perhaps overpriced.


Title: Re: AUCTION: 2014 Cryptonic pure silver Monero
Post by: owlcatz on December 05, 2017, 09:24:17 PM
You've also got to keep in mind technically this coin could be copied by a skilled mint, and a pretty good copy could be made.  Not being a funded coin with holo's/addresses and what not obviously makes that easier.  It also isn't going to be easily identifyable like a US Fiat coin would be to a trained eye, for ex. No one is trolling though, just a very highly priced item and explaining why it's perhaps overpriced.

Actually, I think it would quite easy to spot a fake. Every cryptonic coin has a unique code engraved on the rim that you can input into the site for verification & will tell you if it's authentic or not. That adds a level of complexity to counterfeiting them, as these codes are not public - afaik only cryptonic21 has full access to them all. I will actually ask him to chime in here on this, as we have discussed it briefly in the past, but yes, in general, of course someone could easily counterfeit anything with the right tools and skills, IMO.

 


Title: Re: AUCTION: 2014 Cryptonic pure silver Monero
Post by: ChiBitCTy on December 06, 2017, 12:16:42 AM
You've also got to keep in mind technically this coin could be copied by a skilled mint, and a pretty good copy could be made.  Not being a funded coin with holo's/addresses and what not obviously makes that easier.  It also isn't going to be easily identifyable like a US Fiat coin would be to a trained eye, for ex. No one is trolling though, just a very highly priced item and explaining why it's perhaps overpriced.

Actually, I think it would quite easy to spot a fake. Every cryptonic coin has a unique code engraved on the rim that you can input into the site for verification & will tell you if it's authentic or not. That adds a level of complexity to counterfeiting them, as these codes are not public - afaik only cryptonic21 has full access to them all. I will actually ask him to chime in here on this, as we have discussed it briefly in the past, but yes, in general, of course someone could easily counterfeit anything with the right tools and skills, IMO.

 

Oh no kidding!...well that’s a different story, and very cool. Sure anything can be faked you’re right but the holos certainly add a level of extra difficulty.  I love this coin and the other one made for it. No idea about the actual crypto currency itself..but  apparently I should look in to it.


Title: Re: AUCTION: 2014 Cryptonic pure silver Monero
Post by: digicoinuser on December 06, 2017, 12:45:10 AM
Watching in case the starting bid goes down a considerable amount.  ;)


Title: Re: AUCTION: 2014 Cryptonic pure silver Monero
Post by: Vigens on December 06, 2017, 07:00:38 AM
Watching in case the starting bid goes down a considerable amount.  ;)

Believe me it wont. :)


Title: Re: AUCTION: 2014 Cryptonic pure silver Monero
Post by: cryptonic21 on December 06, 2017, 02:43:32 PM
You've also got to keep in mind technically this coin could be copied by a skilled mint, and a pretty good copy could be made.  Not being a funded coin with holo's/addresses and what not obviously makes that easier.  It also isn't going to be easily identifyable like a US Fiat coin would be to a trained eye, for ex. No one is trolling though, just a very highly priced item and explaining why it's perhaps overpriced.

Actually, I think it would quite easy to spot a fake. Every cryptonic coin has a unique code engraved on the rim that you can input into the site for verification & will tell you if it's authentic or not. That adds a level of complexity to counterfeiting them, as these codes are not public - afaik only cryptonic21 has full access to them all. I will actually ask him to chime in here on this, as we have discussed it briefly in the past, but yes, in general, of course someone could easily counterfeit anything with the right tools and skills, IMO.

 

I guess this coin is original with 99,9% probability. It looks exactly as it should and the ID is correct.
As for the price it can be determined only by the seller and a buyer.

https://i.imgur.com/1apOHiN.jpg


Title: Re: AUCTION: 2014 Cryptonic pure silver Monero
Post by: Vigens on December 07, 2017, 09:51:31 AM

Thank you sir Cryptonic, yes it is the original coin received from the King himself.
In my mind crypto currencies will take over central banking in less than 5 years. By the year 2025, Bitcoin will be the main currency and all crypto related memorabilia and such will be worth millions. I will never sell this coin unless i get desired amount that i will put up here in the coming years. Someone who is good in hodling, will be a very rich man in the 2020,s. Thanks everyone  :) 8)


Title: Re: AUCTION: 2014 Cryptonic pure silver Monero
Post by: iCEBREAKER on December 08, 2017, 12:14:33 PM

I will never sell this coin



Quoted for truth.


Title: Re: AUCTION: 2014 Cryptonic pure silver Monero
Post by: Vigens on December 17, 2017, 04:43:31 PM

Auction ended, coin not sold. HODL.