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and by you sponsoring it you are part of the immorality?

i am christian so i have to admit sometimes i have trouble sleeping at night.

Do you think dollars are not used for these puposes?

sleep well

So is all cash. Technology itself is never amoral, only its applications can be.

Your kidding right?...... you really can not be serious..... /sigh

Nope, no more than it bothers me that US dollars are used to finance drugs, child porn, and terrorism.  (It doesn't.)

Isn't there any sin in your christian world?

 8)

Yup, such an angry space daddy Christians believe in. Must be really hard to sleep at night.

Does it bother you that $ is used to enslave entire societies in engineered debt and artificial scarcity?

I'm okay with drugs. Child porn and terrorism, not so much. Did you just make this up or is it real? (especially terrorism. I could sadly imagine child porn on sale for bitcoins...)

The difference between $$/€/.. and bitcoins is that bitcoins make it easy to pay and be anonymous at the same time. If someone pays for child porn using €, there are usually ways to find him and do whatever the local laws say.

It bothers me, but that has nothing to do with bitcoin.

There still has to be an exchange, even if the money exchange is easy. Drugs must be transported somehow, terrorism is not done by a monetary transaction either.

And child porn? I don't believe that there actually is a market. I think there are only communities of child porn consumers sharing their files. How would you stop them from doing that by making payments harder?

its a simple thing: Money(btc, usd, eur, ...) will be used do buy/finance illegal stuff.
and btw. there is no terrorism, they are all just freedom fighters. :P
and drug related crimes, would not exist if drugs was legal.
how often do you see alcohol/coffee related crimes?
i think that drugs should be legal, and governments should stop having a war against it, and they should focus more on drug addicts.

Have you ever tried to snort coke with a bitcoin? Pretty easy with a dollar note though and near every bill in circulation has trace amounts on them and I think you can get a few grams out of a pile of a million if you were so inclined. What was your point?

surely this is a troll

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bMLrA_0O5I

Ban dollar, is used to finance drugs, child porn and terrorism.

Arrest everyone using dollar, they are clearly helping the criminals!

NO CP

Everything else is reasons why people should get behind Bitcoin, personal freedoms :)

http://trololololololololololo.com/

Yes it does bother me. But as many people said, it's the problem of money in general, not specific to any specific currency.

And no, using a certain currency doesn't mean I'm sponsoring whatever else is being done with that currency.

You're sponsoring drugs and/or child porn if you're giving money to that industry. (As for terrorism, that's a word I don't even want to hear, it's been made up by governments and hardly anybody uses it Yes it does bother me. But as many people said, it's the problem of money in general, not specific to any specific currency.

And no, using a certain currency doesn't mean I'm sponsoring whatever else is being done with that currency.

You're sponsoring drugs and/or child porn if you're giving money to that industry, not otherwise. (As for terrorism, that's a word I don't even want to hear, it's been made up by governments and nobody uses it in its rightful meaning, certainly not the governments. If it goes again the government's stability, it's said to be terrorism. Bitcoin is terrorism. But that's another debate anyway.)in its rightful meaning, certainly not the governments. If it goes again the government's stability, it's said to be terrorism. Bitcoin is terrorism. But that's another, non bitcoin-specific debate anyway.)

troll imo

I can't sleep knowing that Bitcoins could be used to buy mixed fabrics contrary to Deuteronomy 22:11 "Thou shalt not wear a garment of divers sorts, as of woollen and linen together."

Some people have some nerve.

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQHM2m0_zILNPvBBtELtJXR2cqsb2xDeTrLNVuh1VYoBojFkFT1

The following threads were started by the OP:


Chill out.

Nice. We should paste this reply as soon as this troll starts each new thread.

do you also have trouble sleeping at night when you use knives since knives are used to butcher people, or drive a car since cars are used to run over people, or hey use paper dollars since paper dollars are used  finance drugs, child porn and terrorism?

GTFO troll.

I am more bothered by adults force-feeding their children religion than I am by someone making a choice how to spend their own money.

And where the hell do you get the idea that bitcoin is financing terrorism?  Must be from the wackos at church, whose ignorant ideas you absorb like a sponge without applying even the smallest bit of critical thought to.

All technology can be used for good or evil.

Nuclear technology can be used to generate tons of clean energy or it can be used to blow up everything.

Troll is obvious.

The only thing that bothers me is the fact these threads exist so long here. This belongs in the 'newbies' section, honestly - if not outright locked. It is no better than the "CRASH CRASH CRASH" threads, or someone claiming they've "HACKED THE BLOCKCHAIN - FREE BITCOINS" kind of postings.

The only thing that keeps me up at night is knowing this world is full of idiots like you. ::)

Drugs? I like some of them! If my dealer will start to accept Bitcoins instead of cash it will be nice. If alcohol, nicotine and caffeine is legal, all other drugs should be legal too.

Child porn? Girls without tits is not my preference, but in internet everything should be allowed in my opinion. There is even more disturbing porn legally available, such as 18+ girls getting abused by some old and rich fart or gayfag porn. Why to care about CP if all participants have fun from making it? I remember myself as 12yo kid wanting to have sex with girl soo badly.

Terrorism? I like the so called "terrorists". But I have no idea how Bitcoins will be userful to guerilla fighters fighting asimetric warfare for now. In future yes, they might be some use as a means of cash transfer. But today TNT and AK-74 is still more usefull than Bitcoins.

Oh god, a mod needs to force this post into the OP's signature.  Let them continue to run wild across all the forums, but that must but in their signature forever.  Like those people that steal from a store and have to hold a sign out front of the store saying they stole from them.

So basically gay porn is more disturbing than child porn to you? (Also, child porn probably means 18- girls getting abused by someone, as most of them are probably not doing it voluntarily)

sigh.....

ok

Guns do not kill people. People do

Money does not fund the supply of drugs etc people do.


SERIOUS people need to take more personal responsibly for there own actions and not blame money, guns, Bitcoins, whatever for whats done with them

/rant

Heh... but it is still useful mental exercise:
Lets make a comparative table:


If bitcoins doesn't allow you to sleep at night, if you thought about dollars you would be an insomniac.

A suitcase full of cash is much more anonymous than Bitcoin, though, isn't it?

bitsalame, why there is porn in your list? It's not an illegal or bad thing

>Does it bother you Bitcoins is used to finance drugs, child porn and terrorism?
Not one bit. I'm even happy about that. "Normal" moneys or bitcoin, there is no difference. The result is the same. So I might as well be happy about bigger money-flow.

The "artificial scarcity" bit reminds me of Bitcoin...

bitcoins just got trolled by god

Being christian is not very moral (http://www.freedomainradio.com/Traffic_Jams/questions_to_ask_the_religious.mp3), so I guess OP is either a hypocrite or not well informed.

And you know this is happening because of how or what?

Because some politician said so? You actually believe what any politician says? "That's not my Weiner", "I did not have sex with that woman", "I was just tapping my foot", "The Internet is a bunch of Tubes", "No new taxes", "I will close Gitmo within 6 months", "We expect action in Libya to take days, not weeks", shall I go on?

The shear thought that anyone would waste time transferring money to an Exchange, likely by electronic means since what fool would send thousands of dollars in cash, convert those to Bitcoins, transfer them to his wallet then another wallet, then another then back to an Exchange then back to cash by way of some third country transfer (money order?) since they wouldn't want to use a direct bank transfer as that defeats all of what they just did is ludicrous. But then again our Gov't wants you to think Mexican Drug Lords are coming across the river to TX to buy 5 guns that have to be modified to fire at full auto and have their full life documented vs. calling up China, N. Korea, any of the former USSR  satellites and saying "I need 1000 full auto AK's with 100k rounds of ammo" is also a fool since we are also told those drug lords have BILLIONS in cash.

Hah. That has the be the funniest thread this troll started. But it's nothing like the name suggests.
The OP apparently was so scared of losing their wallet.dat to a virus their hair was falling out.

Oh, I just missed that he wrote he was a christian. Nothing to argue then.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYaQpRZJl18
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkHuvErbpd0



Shorter, but with music:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gkv6zw4gnKU
(Tony Blair slapped right in the face there.)

Bothers me that bitcoins are used by Christians. Maybe these uses will help keep them away?

 The Internet is used for those things too.  Bank robbers use cars and highways to get away.  Terrorists rammed airplanes into buildings.  I guess we should ban them.

Water is used to quench the thirst of every terrorist. That's why I don't drink it.

It bothers me that people support anti drugs laws . You are free to not consume why does it need to be a law. If you believe a substance is doing you bad don't use it. Terrorism is just as war. You work in a country that might go to war some day . You are paying for those bullets , guns , tanks , secret agents . So you ain't different then those that support bin Laden. both bin Laden and the state funded armies kill .

I'm more bothered that bitcoin might support secret agents and "preventive attacks" or "democratisations" than terrorism.

Isn't this child prostitution? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oh9XgGGh4L4

The only problem i have is : Who is the one with the idea is it the child or some mother fucker ? Is the child pushed or forced in to doing something? Then anyway we have a problem be it porn or singing or just sitting. The problem ain't child porn or porn in general the problem is that many are forced to do it. This also applies to adults not just children. And that is where we have to work and not on stopping porn.

Oh and I don't care what the church heard from GOD what's "God" or "Bad"

What a stupid moronic post. This is why I am slowly getting tired of coming on here. Either it's an idiot troll or noob spouting garbage, or it's a paid troll bringing the community down, or it's a few people who get enjoyment off seeing other people fail.

The Federal Reserve prints money out of thin air to start wars, encourage terrorism and a drug war that perpetuates a black market drug trade.

Have you dumped your Federal Reserve Notes yet?

I'm bothered that my tax dollars are used to finance drugs, child porn and terrorism.

The fact that bitcoins will help allow people to choose wether or not to finance these things is just one more reason to use bitcoins instead of government issued currencies.

Your declaration of chritianity shows you are utterly devoid of intellegence and Bitcoin goes to finance none of those things. Go jump off of your bridge, troll.

Historically I think Gold has more blood on it's hands than anything.

According to many religions and cultures, pornography is immoral and sinful.
I added to the list as a formality ;)

PS: But there is a bad side of pornography, it doesn't depict real sexual relationships and it is one of the main sources of stress for men who have unrealistic expectations of their sexual performance.
Those guys who secretly believe that they know a lot about sex because they watched a lot of porn are as delusional as the girls who think they know all about relationships because they watch a lot of romantic movies.

Does it bother you, that you worship a made up entity?

I'm not Christian but if I was, I'd pray you get hit by a bus.  Maybe the OP can help me out.

If it really bothers you, I can trade a goat for all your guns porn and drugs.

ZZZzzzzz......

if you are using btc you have a choice whether or not you want to fund wars. if you use USD you do not have that choice, your money IS being used to fund wars. right now. as you sleep. you have paid for parts of a bomb being dropped somewhere.

which one makes you feel like you have more blood on your hands?

Case rested.  It's great that all you have to do to win this debate every time is to bring up the usd.

Well we could always bring up that the US is the likely source of most drug trafficking, most terrorism, most wars. The CIA's links to drug running goes back to at least the 70's, they have overthrown any number of Gov'ts many of which then lead to failed Gov't or guerrilla wars. They were certainly linked plans like Operation Northwoods, the School of the Americas, Flight 455, Rwanda training camps, Libya training camps, and probably most recently Afghan's opium trade.