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Title: BCH view on BTC at the moment
Post by: jubalix on December 06, 2017, 11:15:06 PM
So I wonder what the BCH camp is thinking about the BTC rise at the moment?


Title: Re: BCH view on BTC at the moment
Post by: ladadadiweliketoparty on December 06, 2017, 11:37:03 PM
I too wonder because only last week there was a conspiracy theory floating around  saying that once BTC hit 10k there would be a massive flippening and BCH would over take BTC in a short while :D. Well look at how that played out BCH is nowhere to be seen and BTC keeps gaining dominance in the market. Safe to say that the conspiracy theory is probably unlikely to happen and good riddance to it.


Title: Re: BCH view on BTC at the moment
Post by: 2fresh on December 06, 2017, 11:41:41 PM
So I wonder what the BCH camp is thinking about the BTC rise at the moment?

They are trying to keep up with it, burning copious amounts of money to keep bcash relevant.
And the higher bitcoin goes the harder it will be on bcash.
They are lucky they can pump and keep it's liquidity with 0 fee's for the moment, but bitcoin is going to kill bcash in this pace  ;D


Title: Re: BCH view on BTC at the moment
Post by: equator on December 06, 2017, 11:55:27 PM
I too wonder because only last week there was a conspiracy theory floating around  saying that once BTC hit 10k there would be a massive flippening and BCH would over take BTC in a short while :D. Well look at how that played out BCH is nowhere to be seen and BTC keeps gaining dominance in the market. Safe to say that the conspiracy theory is probably unlikely to happen and good riddance to it.

This they were trying from when the hardfork started and got success, but always getting failed now even when BTC is passed above 14k do you think that BCH will get success to take over BTC. But it can be that BCH can be used as altcoin and big players can play with this coin.


Title: Re: BCH view on BTC at the moment
Post by: gon on December 06, 2017, 11:58:50 PM
So I wonder what the BCH camp is thinking about the BTC rise at the moment?

What to think? My guess is they are cursing. Cursing badly, for sure after the attack they did and failed a month ago.
BCH will die, nobody use it and nobody will use it.


Title: Re: BCH view on BTC at the moment
Post by: jubalix on December 07, 2017, 12:50:05 AM
So I wonder what the BCH camp is thinking about the BTC rise at the moment?

They are trying to keep up with it, burning copious amounts of money to keep bcash relevant.
And the higher bitcoin goes the harder it will be on bcash.
They are lucky they can pump and keep it's liquidity with 0 fee's for the moment, but bitcoin is going to kill bcash in this pace  ;D

I kinda felt there was some massive effort to do this....that said I do not disagree that bigger blocks are better and there must be some block size increase plus I feel segwit.

there must be a family of graphs that give  a good blocksize increase


Title: Re: BCH view on BTC at the moment
Post by: Murloc on December 07, 2017, 12:56:22 AM
Even before the recent attack on BTC network there  wasn't any kind of hype around it that could prove its worth. Imho that time it's  volume was slowly suppurted by the ones who performed the attack and now with BTC increase they may simply not have enough funds to keep this coin at the same spot.


Title: Re: BCH view on BTC at the moment
Post by: iconoclast on December 07, 2017, 12:57:35 AM
Hopefully BCH's poor performance will deter other people creating forks.


Title: Re: BCH view on BTC at the moment
Post by: Wickedwitch28 on December 07, 2017, 01:45:29 AM
So I wonder what the BCH camp is thinking about the BTC rise at the moment?

Bch has been manipulating their market and trying hard to overtake btc but thats very unlikely to happen. Looking at the rise of btc despite some speculations of being overtaken, btc is going to fly higher even more. The bch camp must be thinking of other ways to push through their plan but that aint gonna happen. Btc rules!!!


Title: Re: BCH view on BTC at the moment
Post by: v3liana on December 07, 2017, 02:17:39 AM
So I wonder what the BCH camp is thinking about the BTC rise at the moment?
its might be a opportunity for bch rise too. but considering so many hark fork of bitcoin i dont think that rise would happen like last month. there will be so many fork and i not sure which one is affected by bitcoin value.


Title: Re: BCH view on BTC at the moment
Post by: frankcai56 on December 07, 2017, 02:35:41 AM
I am a super fan of BTC however I am also a big fan of BCH. The truth is that BCH is now the third in Market Cap at about 24 Billions and we can not change it!!

I agree attacking or other filthy ways are unethical and should be condemned!

But other than that who dont want to make their group (or institution) better. And take a close look, there are actually many improvements of BCH over BTC. Anyways, that being said, "the market will follow where the hashrate goes", 13 B people is a natural advantage after all   8) >:( :P


Title: Re: BCH view on BTC at the moment
Post by: Hanablue on December 07, 2017, 02:46:51 AM
BCH is a wounded tiger at the moment, bitcoin crushed everybody tonight. ;D


Title: Re: BCH view on BTC at the moment
Post by: lsd400 on December 07, 2017, 02:56:50 AM
I just leave it here
https://steamcommunity.com/games/593110/announcements/detail/1464096684955433613


Title: Re: BCH view on BTC at the moment
Post by: crazylikeafox on December 07, 2017, 03:08:45 AM
BCH miners and pumpers regret for being naive to move out from BTC and now they decided to comeback to the other side..


Title: Re: BCH view on BTC at the moment
Post by: jubalix on December 07, 2017, 04:09:15 AM
BCH miners and pumpers regret for being naive to move out from BTC and now they decided to comeback to the other side..

yeah....would have lost a a lot of money right now...their pockets must be pretty empty....and honestly they were trying to do something good...! give us choice and options


Title: Re: BCH view on BTC at the moment
Post by: Catmony on December 07, 2017, 04:13:03 AM
Bitcoin cash is backed by few billionaires and they want to create hype over bch so that they can dump their huge bch holding on buy orders of newbie traders.

Their claims of bch replacing btc is just part of that huge hype/fud practice. I will never hold bch as long term investment.


Title: Re: BCH view on BTC at the moment
Post by: EastSound on December 07, 2017, 04:24:16 AM
Just checked their ann thread and my eyes got cancer from reading the last 10 pages of it..

The reddit sections isnt great also there hardly any relevent discussions


Title: Re: BCH view on BTC at the moment
Post by: bbc.reporter on December 07, 2017, 04:38:01 AM
BCH miners and pumpers regret for being naive to move out from BTC and now they decided to comeback to the other side..

yeah....would have lost a a lot of money right now...their pockets must be pretty empty....and honestly they were trying to do something good...! give us choice and options

Only in their minds. What they are really doing is trying to divide the community and trying to make all kinds of publicity stunts saying that bitcoin cash is the real bitcoin.

Is attacking bitcoin what you call good?

They also have the scammer Craig Wright on their side.


Title: Re: BCH view on BTC at the moment
Post by: jubalix on December 07, 2017, 12:06:39 PM
BCH miners and pumpers regret for being naive to move out from BTC and now they decided to comeback to the other side..

yeah....would have lost a a lot of money right now...their pockets must be pretty empty....and honestly they were trying to do something good...! give us choice and options

Only in their minds. What they are really doing is trying to divide the community and trying to make all kinds of publicity stunts saying that bitcoin cash is the real bitcoin.

Is attacking bitcoin what you call good?

They also have the scammer Craig Wright on their side.

ok yeah I see what you mean....but they are giving us big block options, the failure so scale at all on chain via blocksize for btc is an issue as well. even if its a fractional amount, to a proposed g(x). (ignoring SW)


Title: Re: BCH view on BTC at the moment
Post by: madentopere on December 07, 2017, 04:40:50 PM
it’s normal to see BCH price drop a lot with BTC brecause bitcoin growth fast last week.

BCH is stable coin now and will never be like BTC


Title: Re: BCH view on BTC at the moment
Post by: Rhaizan on December 07, 2017, 06:14:32 PM
it’s normal to see BCH price drop a lot with BTC brecause bitcoin growth fast last week.

BCH is stable coin now and will never be like BTC

Many people says thats BCH is a bubble so i never surprise if that happen, and i know BCH is never will be like a bitcoin, they are different so i don't think we need be careful choosing the coin we want to hold.


Title: Re: BCH view on BTC at the moment
Post by: Michelle990 on December 07, 2017, 06:26:27 PM
Most altcoin can never pump with btc at same time


Title: Re: BCH view on BTC at the moment
Post by: styca on December 07, 2017, 06:55:45 PM
This BTC rise is immense, and all alts are suffering. There is a lot of new money coming into crypto now, total crypto cap is rapidly approaching $500 billion, with bitcoin alone nearly $300 billion.


Title: Re: BCH view on BTC at the moment
Post by: StayFly on December 07, 2017, 07:02:16 PM
So I wonder what the BCH camp is thinking about the BTC rise at the moment?
LMAO! they are thinking bitcoin will crash their bitcoin cash ecosystem... though, not all of them are selling their coins for bitcoin.


Title: Re: BCH view on BTC at the moment
Post by: abanansah on December 07, 2017, 07:38:01 PM
I guess those that believed in BCH hardfork are better off now. Is better I left coins in my wallet for the upcoming forks.


Title: Re: BCH view on BTC at the moment
Post by: william8829 on December 07, 2017, 08:12:09 PM
So I wonder what the BCH camp is thinking about the BTC rise at the moment?

I am not sure they can do much.  I believe this increase in the crypto market cap is from new investors.  Are they savy investors.  Investors who do not panic when volatility arises because they have studied this particular market?  Or are they soccer dads who have bought into the investment of a lifetime hook.  If its the former than I do not believe BCH has any chance to 'flip' market caps with Bitcoin.  


Title: Re: BCH view on BTC at the moment
Post by: bbc.reporter on December 08, 2017, 12:40:29 AM
BCH miners and pumpers regret for being naive to move out from BTC and now they decided to comeback to the other side..

yeah....would have lost a a lot of money right now...their pockets must be pretty empty....and honestly they were trying to do something good...! give us choice and options

Only in their minds. What they are really doing is trying to divide the community and trying to make all kinds of publicity stunts saying that bitcoin cash is the real bitcoin.

Is attacking bitcoin what you call good?

They also have the scammer Craig Wright on their side.

ok yeah I see what you mean....but they are giving us big block options, the failure so scale at all on chain via blocksize for btc is an issue as well. even if its a fractional amount, to a proposed g(x). (ignoring SW)

That is not what I am referring to. Bigger blocks is not an issue for me, it is confusing the general public what is bitcoin and what is not. But before we can go further, let me ask you these questions.

Is bitcoin cash an altcoin for you or not?

Also is Craig Wright the real Satoshi Nakamoto?


Title: Re: BCH view on BTC at the moment
Post by: ipanks on December 08, 2017, 02:17:26 AM
bitcoin cash is too expensive to buy and I don't want to risk my money to buy right now but if the price can drop then I will think to buy later. I see the price is down a little and not going to increase so far and I am waiting for the price to down more. but if bitcoin is too expensive to buy then maybe we can buy and sell with bitcoin cash and still make the profit.


Title: Re: BCH view on BTC at the moment
Post by: jubalix on December 08, 2017, 08:26:42 AM
BCH miners and pumpers regret for being naive to move out from BTC and now they decided to comeback to the other side..

yeah....would have lost a a lot of money right now...their pockets must be pretty empty....and honestly they were trying to do something good...! give us choice and options

Only in their minds. What they are really doing is trying to divide the community and trying to make all kinds of publicity stunts saying that bitcoin cash is the real bitcoin.

Is attacking bitcoin what you call good?

They also have the scammer Craig Wright on their side.

ok yeah I see what you mean....but they are giving us big block options, the failure so scale at all on chain via blocksize for btc is an issue as well. even if its a fractional amount, to a proposed g(x). (ignoring SW)

That is not what I am referring to. Bigger blocks is not an issue for me, it is confusing the general public what is bitcoin and what is not. But before we can go further, let me ask you these questions.

Is bitcoin cash an altcoin for you or not?

Also is Craig Wright the real Satoshi Nakamoto?

Craig Wright has not signed SN addresses, so until he does he lacks proof. BTC allows people to prove how they say they are very easily.

He does not seem like SN is my view. He does not behave like SN. However the Federal Police kicked his door in, so that does make him look more legit, though we all know why that really happened, yes I am talking to you Mr. High enough up in the Federal police, officer, who conviently took say x thousand unsecured btc from hard drives that were handed to you....

I am agnostic as to "BCH alt" "BTC alt" it not a proper description, nor is it a binary question. Say one is original or not is irrelevant.

Rather, they are protocols with different attributes, and you end up on both if you had BTC b4 the fork.

I am not bothered by so called general publics confusion, again not really a valid descriptor popular but not valid. I rather believe each individual can apply themselves to the limit of their interest and ability.




Title: Re: BCH view on BTC at the moment
Post by: CryptoBuds on December 08, 2017, 08:39:03 AM
What can they feel except the regret. Especially miners. But I guess that the complexity at BCH network should be dropped drammaticaly and after the btc pump when everything returns to the normal it could turned out that the profit from BCH mining surpasses the profit from BTC mining. They need to be patient.


Title: Re: BCH view on BTC at the moment
Post by: FiiNALiZE on December 09, 2017, 09:02:35 PM
So I wonder what the BCH camp is thinking about the BTC rise at the moment?
They are probably not liking the whole Roger and the dissing the community situation. The coin won't last that long.


Title: Re: BCH view on BTC at the moment
Post by: legenduim on December 10, 2017, 11:55:15 AM
So I wonder what the BCH camp is thinking about the BTC rise at the moment?

Although some guys here suppose that Bitcoin Cash will die as Bitcoin is rising very fast, I do not think so. The capitalization of this coin is too great, and it is supported by many users, especially Asian guys.


Title: Re: BCH view on BTC at the moment
Post by: bitcoinisbest on December 10, 2017, 11:59:53 AM
So I wonder what the BCH camp is thinking about the BTC rise at the moment?

Although some guys here suppose that Bitcoin Cash will die as Bitcoin is rising very fast, I do not think so. The capitalization of this coin is too great, and it is supported by many users, especially Asian guys.

Even BCH has given a good rise and all those who had got free coins they cannot even complain because its a free money and on which they have made good money as well. Yes at present the btc price is rising though it has fallen a bit now but the same % rise not other coin has risen during the same time like btc did.

Holding BTC is a good idea as compared to BCH for long term.


Title: Re: BCH view on BTC at the moment
Post by: Opnsrc on December 10, 2017, 05:48:27 PM
So I wonder what the BCH camp is thinking about the BTC rise at the moment?

Comparing the rates of other altcoins with Bitcoin Cash these days, when Bitcoin is amazingly expensive (in comparison with even the rates of last 2 weeks), I see that BCH is floating — it is still going up when other coins are down. I think BTC high price will not affect it too much.


Title: Re: BCH view on BTC at the moment
Post by: usekevin on December 10, 2017, 06:00:08 PM
So I wonder what the BCH camp is thinking about the BTC rise at the moment?

Although some guys here suppose that Bitcoin Cash will die as Bitcoin is rising very fast, I do not think so. The capitalization of this coin is too great, and it is supported by many users, especially Asian guys.

Bitcoin will be top at the moment. The price of bitcoin is now move to upper end it crossed many high value now.The price of bitcoin is again come back to 15,400$.It's not a peak,the value will slowly get back it's own value. As you know it already reached 16,000$.By comparing bitcoin price bitcoin is best.


Title: Re: BCH view on BTC at the moment
Post by: bbc.reporter on December 11, 2017, 12:25:32 AM
BCH miners and pumpers regret for being naive to move out from BTC and now they decided to comeback to the other side..

yeah....would have lost a a lot of money right now...their pockets must be pretty empty....and honestly they were trying to do something good...! give us choice and options

Only in their minds. What they are really doing is trying to divide the community and trying to make all kinds of publicity stunts saying that bitcoin cash is the real bitcoin.

Is attacking bitcoin what you call good?

They also have the scammer Craig Wright on their side.

ok yeah I see what you mean....but they are giving us big block options, the failure so scale at all on chain via blocksize for btc is an issue as well. even if its a fractional amount, to a proposed g(x). (ignoring SW)

That is not what I am referring to. Bigger blocks is not an issue for me, it is confusing the general public what is bitcoin and what is not. But before we can go further, let me ask you these questions.

Is bitcoin cash an altcoin for you or not?

Also is Craig Wright the real Satoshi Nakamoto?

Craig Wright has not signed SN addresses, so until he does he lacks proof. BTC allows people to prove how they say they are very easily.

He does not seem like SN is my view. He does not behave like SN. However the Federal Police kicked his door in, so that does make him look more legit, though we all know why that really happened, yes I am talking to you Mr. High enough up in the Federal police, officer, who conviently took say x thousand unsecured btc from hard drives that were handed to you....

I am agnostic as to "BCH alt" "BTC alt" it not a proper description, nor is it a binary question. Say one is original or not is irrelevant.

Rather, they are protocols with different attributes, and you end up on both if you had BTC b4 the fork.

I am not bothered by so called general publics confusion, again not really a valid descriptor popular but not valid. I rather believe each individual can apply themselves to the limit of their interest and ability.

I can see your reluctance in saying that bitcoin cash is the altcoin. If you are a supporter and a holder then I understand.

But let me put it this way. It was the bitcoin cash developers who changed the consensus rules and forked away from the main chain with the support of some miners controlled by Jihan Wu. Therefore BCH is the altcoin.


Title: Re: BCH view on BTC at the moment
Post by: ipanks on December 11, 2017, 09:15:58 AM
So I wonder what the BCH camp is thinking about the BTC rise at the moment?

I think the bch camp is waiting until bitcoin price makes a stable at one range price then the bitcoin cash can start to increase back. this is also happening with another coin too. if bitcoin price increases, then people will sell the altcoin to have bitcoin because if they sell bitcoin, they can make a big profit. but the other people will prefer to hold their altcoin including to hold bitcoin cash.


Title: Re: BCH view on BTC at the moment
Post by: SearchingforS on December 26, 2017, 05:43:59 AM
I don't trust BCH at all...it seems to be a pumped thing so much


Title: Re: BCH view on BTC at the moment
Post by: jubalix on January 06, 2018, 11:27:12 AM
one thing I will say + about BCH....I can actually send BCH at a reasonable price, and you know send it because they, room in their blocks.


I have argued this again and again, larger blocksize makes it much more expensive to fill with spam while increasing fees for miners at the same time.

some marginal block size increase needs to happen. NO2X was madness.


Title: Re: BCH view on BTC at the moment
Post by: nakamote on January 06, 2018, 12:59:39 PM
BCash will never be like the BTC,its just another shit forked coin who doesnt have any use at all,roger ver is a shitty person thats why he wants to overthrow the king.


Title: Re: BCH view on BTC at the moment
Post by: cryptopusa on January 08, 2018, 04:10:52 PM
BCH is a trashy coin manipulated by its founders,they want to overthrone BTC to manipulate the whole market.


Title: Re: BCH view on BTC at the moment
Post by: taxmanmt5 on January 20, 2018, 05:07:07 PM
BCH is a wounded tiger at the moment, bitcoin crushed everybody tonight. ;D

Yes, bitcoin is making destory every alt today. It is making new heights today and i think almost all the alts are more than 20% down. This is really good for bitcoin lover Plus good for those who can buy alt cheap now. Bch is also cheap and avaible only for 0.14 BTC at Poloniex.