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Title: Encrypted wallet was stolen 199.50BTC
Post by: junzone on July 12, 2013, 11:37:23 PM
状态: 2481 确认项
日期: 2013/6/29 01:40
到: 1KNwtXJMNCbAjnKHFyhz79R5cAJpUozSvV
支出: -199.50 BTC
净额: -199.50 BTC
交易ID: 02f15f6442685585efae771924a6a58fc520401ddfa92d83e2cb5b9c27be301e





Title: Re: Encrypted wallet was stolen 199.50BTC
Post by: escrow.ms on July 12, 2013, 11:40:38 PM
Holy hell, your pc got infected or what?

Money moved to 4 different address here
http://blockchain.info/address/1HHn8W3g8UFzEfNJcuMmvQNUM11aiLvmc7


Title: Re: Encrypted wallet was stolen 199.50BTC
Post by: notme on July 12, 2013, 11:43:49 PM
1. Look around you.  Who knew about the btc and might be able to guess your password (or install a keylogger).
2. Look for virus/malware.  Encrypting your wallet only helps until you type your password once.
3. If this isn't a local wallet on your computer, look closely at whoever was storing them for you.  If this is the case, there is likely nothing you can do other than to be more careful with your money next time.


Title: Re: Encrypted wallet was stolen 199.50BTC
Post by: starsoccer9 on July 12, 2013, 11:44:01 PM
Yea all the address tho are relayed by different address too


Title: Re: Encrypted wallet was stolen 199.50BTC
Post by: razorfishsl on July 13, 2013, 02:50:22 AM
状态: 2481 确认项
日期: 2013/6/29 01:40
到: 1KNwtXJMNCbAjnKHFyhz79R5cAJpUozSvV
支出: -199.50 BTC
净额: -199.50 BTC
交易ID: 02f15f6442685585efae771924a6a58fc520401ddfa92d83e2cb5b9c27be301e





If you are in Hong Kong there is a LOT you can do about it..... Contact the cyber crimes department... but be FAST......


Title: Re: Encrypted wallet was stolen 199.50BTC
Post by: Digigami on July 13, 2013, 02:57:18 AM
Other than being encrypted was the wallet secured any other way?  Was it the live wallet used by the client or possibly a backup you had made? Do you know which system it was stolen from and how it may have been compromised?

Large balances are best kept offline.. Further I only trust any backups to multiple copies of removable media stored in multiple secure locations, encrypted or not I wouldn't keep them on dropbox or the like.


Title: Re: Encrypted wallet was stolen 199.50BTC
Post by: justusranvier on July 13, 2013, 03:58:46 AM
Stop using wallets that are stored on computers with an Internet connection...


Title: Re: Encrypted wallet was stolen 199.50BTC
Post by: virtualmaster on July 13, 2013, 10:11:39 AM
Stop using wallets that are stored on computers with an Internet connection...
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
This advice doesn't seem to be very useful.
Bitcoin works only with internet.


Title: Re: Encrypted wallet was stolen 199.50BTC
Post by: Gabi on July 13, 2013, 10:17:48 AM
Stop using wallets that are stored on computers with an Internet connection...
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
This advice doesn't seem to be very useful.
Bitcoin works only with internet.
The advice actually is very useful!

You should not keep a wallet on a computer with an internet connection but you should keep your wallet in a hardware wallet like Trezor http://www.bitcointrezor.com/faq/ So you cannot lose your coins!


Title: Re: Encrypted wallet was stolen 199.50BTC
Post by: Lethn on July 13, 2013, 01:36:16 PM
Stop using wallets that are stored on computers with an Internet connection...
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
This advice doesn't seem to be very useful.
Bitcoin works only with internet.

If you use a program like Armoury then you can transfer Bitcoins you only want to spend rather than store everything on one wallet like the OP seems to have done, the best and really only viable long term solution to a hacker going after your PC is to unplug it from the internet, everything else is just a delaying tactic.


Title: Re: Encrypted wallet was stolen 199.50BTC
Post by: Kouye on July 13, 2013, 01:42:24 PM
Is there any home-made soft to get all the leafs from a given tx root, from parsing blockchain ?
Cause this one is just insanely deep, there has been A LOT of movements, coins are mostly dust spread all over.


Title: Re: Encrypted wallet was stolen 199.50BTC
Post by: CoinsForTech on July 13, 2013, 01:44:44 PM
Wow really sorry to hear. Any idea how it happened?


Title: Re: Encrypted wallet was stolen 199.50BTC
Post by: virtualmaster on July 13, 2013, 04:18:45 PM
Stop using wallets that are stored on computers with an Internet connection...
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
This advice doesn't seem to be very useful.
Bitcoin works only with internet.

If you use a program like Armoury then you can transfer Bitcoins you only want to spend rather than store everything on one wallet like the OP seems to have done, the best and really only viable long term solution to a hacker going after your PC is to unplug it from the internet, everything else is just a delaying tactic.
Yes I know it but it is an overkill for simple private use and it is very uncomfortable also. May be if you are moving thousands of bitcoins daily.
Just encrypt the wallet with a long password and use it on a clean cheap laptop with linux.
If you use on windows on your game-PC just encrypt your wallet and activate an anti-key-logger like Neo's Safekeys when you put your password to transfer.
Of course if you have higher amount the bigger part should not be directly available in the bitcoin directory but could remain on the same PC in another wallet encrypted a second time with 7z, rar or truecrypt in another directory.


Title: Re: Encrypted wallet was stolen 199.50BTC
Post by: justusranvier on July 13, 2013, 04:25:46 PM
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
This advice doesn't seem to be very useful.
Bitcoin works only with internet.
https://bitcoinarmory.com/using-offline-wallets-in-armory/


Title: Re: Encrypted wallet was stolen 199.50BTC
Post by: coinprize on July 13, 2013, 04:27:08 PM
I'm pretty sure you are using stupid Windows, switch to Ubuntu and run your bitcoin wallet there. Sorry for you lost buddy...


Title: Re: Encrypted wallet was stolen 199.50BTC
Post by: Realpra on July 13, 2013, 06:57:27 PM
Step 1: Buy USB key.
Step 2: Install Ubuntu Live USB thingie.
Step 3: Copy the HTML file for BitAddress.org onto the USB.
Step 4: Use the USB and the HTML file offline.
Step 5: Under the "Wallet Details"-tab write your OWN private keys.
Step 6: Print the key/address pairs onto 3-4 pieces of paper (possibly on an offline/old printer etc.).

This takes care of every cyber attack possible and is doable cheaply for most people.

This also makes wallet.dat corruption impossible.


Title: Re: Encrypted wallet was stolen 199.50BTC
Post by: drwho88888 on July 13, 2013, 07:27:31 PM
Step 1: Buy USB key.
Step 2: Install Ubuntu Live USB thingie.
Step 3: Copy the HTML file for BitAddress.org onto the USB.
Step 4: Use the USB and the HTML file offline.
Step 5: Under the "Wallet Details"-tab write your OWN private keys.
Step 6: Print the key/address pairs onto 3-4 pieces of paper (possibly on an offline/old printer etc.).

This takes care of every cyber attack possible and is doable cheaply for most people.

This also makes wallet.dat corruption impossible.

Or buy a CoinLockr which has done all for you. Works well. coinlockr.com


Title: Re: Encrypted wallet was stolen 199.50BTC
Post by: virtualmaster on July 13, 2013, 07:30:06 PM
Armory has a very good concept. I compiled it on Linux and was running until the next system update.
I really don't like to compile it after every update and it is not so comfortable to use it.
It would be more practical an implemented virtual keyboard in the Satoshi client with customizable size, transparency, drag and drop support and delayed hover entry(instead of key-pressed) to fool keyloggers.


Title: Re: Encrypted wallet was stolen 199.50BTC
Post by: Mike Hearn on July 13, 2013, 09:00:54 PM
junzone, more information (in English) would be really helpful.

In particular can you take your computer to a PC repair shop and get its drive imaged for forensic analysis? If you could find a virus sample that did this, it would be tremendously helpful.


Title: Re: Encrypted wallet was stolen 199.50BTC
Post by: BittBurger on July 14, 2013, 12:08:17 AM
Hello?

Original poster?  Still out there?

Bunch of questions above.  Im sure everyone here wants to know the details so this can be avoided.

Any anomalies?

-B-


Title: Re: Encrypted wallet was stolen 199.50BTC
Post by: MagicBit15 on July 14, 2013, 12:22:20 AM
状态: 2481 确认项
日期: 2013/6/29 01:40
到: 1KNwtXJMNCbAjnKHFyhz79R5cAJpUozSvV
支出: -199.50 BTC
净额: -199.50 BTC
交易ID: 02f15f6442685585efae771924a6a58fc520401ddfa92d83e2cb5b9c27be301e





The guys just hops on with 4 posts and puts this up? Veery odd...


Title: Re: Encrypted wallet was stolen 199.50BTC
Post by: Moogle on July 14, 2013, 02:06:12 AM
Maybe he signed up because of this....

Either way I'd like to know what he was using!


Title: Re: Encrypted wallet was stolen 199.50BTC
Post by: junzone on July 14, 2013, 06:14:21 AM
Yes, I still keep this wallet. I can provide any information as to help for internet security.


Title: Re: Encrypted wallet was stolen 199.50BTC
Post by: ArticMine on July 15, 2013, 04:37:41 AM
I'm pretty sure you are using stupid Windows, switch to Ubuntu and run your bitcoin wallet there. Sorry for you lost buddy...

+1  Ubuntu or any other GNU/Linux. I have been using Ubuntu since 2006. As for Microsoft Windows entering any Bitcoin (or for that matter fiat banking) related password into a Microsoft Windows computer is a financial risk I simply cannot afford.


Title: Re: Encrypted wallet was stolen 199.50BTC
Post by: junzone on September 04, 2013, 03:17:05 AM
I request your attention to my stolen BTC again:

状态: 7783 确认项
日期: 2013/6/29 01:40
到: 1KNwtXJMNCbAjnKHFyhz79R5cAJpUozSvV
支出: -199.50 BTC
净额: -199.50 BTC
交易ID: 02f15f6442685585efae771924a6a58fc520401ddfa92d83e2cb5b9c27be301e


http://blockchain.info/zh-cn/address/1KNwtXJMNCbAjnKHFyhz79R5cAJpUozSvV



Title: Re: Encrypted wallet was stolen 199.50BTC
Post by: saif313 on September 04, 2013, 10:33:48 AM
its happening commonly now stolen of btc from wallests its need some stick security for these wallets to protect users hard working income  :(


Title: Re: Encrypted wallet was stolen 199.50BTC
Post by: b!z on September 04, 2013, 10:40:14 AM
Stop using wallets that are stored on computers with an Internet connection...
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
This advice doesn't seem to be very useful.
Bitcoin works only with internet.

Sign tx on offline computer and broadcast on online computer. Does this not work?