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Title: So Many AltCoins,- How about creating Universal One?
Post by: biaka on July 15, 2013, 07:45:48 PM
Has it ever been proposed before?


Title: Re: So Many AltCoins,- How about creating Universal One?
Post by: Hydroponica on July 15, 2013, 07:48:11 PM
Has it ever been proposed before?

I think  this is what Anti-Matter is/was trying to do


Title: Re: So Many AltCoins,- How about creating Universal One?
Post by: mustyoshi on July 15, 2013, 07:49:47 PM
How can you make something both ASIC proof?


Title: Re: So Many AltCoins,- How about creating Universal One?
Post by: biaka on July 15, 2013, 07:54:20 PM
"I think  this is what Anti-Matter is/was trying to do"


Thanks,
"Was" meaning no progress down there?

P.S. I like Your Name 8)


Title: Re: So Many AltCoins,- How about creating Universal One?
Post by: webr3 on July 15, 2013, 08:06:32 PM
"So Many AltCoins, - let's make another one"


Title: Re: So Many AltCoins,- How about creating Universal One?
Post by: biaka on July 15, 2013, 08:31:28 PM
"So Many AltCoins, - let's make another one"

What's wrong with another one? Specifically self growing Open Source Project?

BTW they are All Awesome to me and this poll is posted by the inspiration
of reading pixel's "How do you create an altcoin? (http://How do you create an altcoin?)
I highly recommend everyone to read!  :)


Title: Re: So Many AltCoins,- How about creating Universal One?
Post by: jackjack on July 15, 2013, 08:58:49 PM
http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/standards.png


Title: Re: So Many AltCoins,- How about creating Universal One?
Post by: mufa23 on July 15, 2013, 09:04:57 PM
You mean, create something that doesn't use SHA256 or Scrypt? I'm pretty sure all coins are using either of the two. I guess you could invent something new that would be CPU based only. But on a given timeline, technology will be created to mine faster and/or use less electricity. And there would have to be a good reason to switch over. What benefits will this new coin have over something like Bitcoin.

Bitcoin is fairly solid.


Title: Re: So Many AltCoins,- How about creating Universal One?
Post by: Snail2 on July 15, 2013, 09:27:16 PM
You mean, create something that doesn't use SHA256 or Scrypt? I'm pretty sure all coins are using either of the two. I guess you could invent something new that would be CPU based only. But on a given timeline, technology will be created to mine faster and/or use less electricity. And there would have to be a good reason to switch over. What benefits will this new coin have over something like Bitcoin.

Bitcoin is fairly solid.


Both SIC and Primecoin are using different algo.


Title: Re: So Many AltCoins,- How about creating Universal One?
Post by: biaka on July 15, 2013, 09:49:05 PM
"More people familiar with varying the code and variants of the code is good, as it seems like there will regularly be need to update all the many altcoins so the more people capable of doing so maybe the more likely it is to happen.

Two that really need updating badly are Tenebrix and GeistGeld, they might even be old enough that they might crap out on file size of the blockchain on 32 bit Windows systems maybe or something silly like that.

They are interestingly different from each other too since Tenebrix is scrypt without merged mining whereas GeistGeld is SHA256 with merged mining. So bringing both of those up to date would be a really great learning-project for someone and meanwhile of course both are also so ridiculously low difficulty you could be mining them both all along with CPUs and rake in tons of both while you learn. Unlike starting a new coin you don't tend to get jumped on by all the big miners with these old coins, so you can go months on end peacefully mining them with CPUs.

Compare that with the way difficulty skyrockets on new coins lately and you'll see those new coins won't likely be useful for spreading the coins around newbies for maybe months or years, whereas these old coins have been serving newbies well for what, a year or more now and still nice low difficulty...

-MarkM-




Title: Re: So Many AltCoins,- How about creating Universal One?
Post by: AgentME on July 15, 2013, 10:05:04 PM
I'd make a joke we should call it "CloneCoin" or something obvious, but the name "Yet Another Coin" is already used, so making a new coin ironically isn't even original.


Title: Re: So Many AltCoins,- How about creating Universal One?
Post by: Online24o0n on July 15, 2013, 10:55:30 PM
Has it ever been proposed before?
We have a universal coin, Its called BitCoin


Title: Re: So Many AltCoins,- How about creating Universal One?
Post by: thekidcoin on July 15, 2013, 10:58:53 PM
Has it ever been proposed before?
let me guess, your going to create it?


Title: Re: So Many AltCoins,- How about creating Universal One?
Post by: kelsey on July 15, 2013, 11:41:48 PM
Has it ever been proposed before?
We have a universal coin, Its called BitCoin


but that attempt failed

but yeah the last place you should start a new bitcoin or bitcoin clone is forum.


Title: Re: So Many AltCoins,- How about creating Universal One?
Post by: biaka on July 15, 2013, 11:46:24 PM
Has it ever been proposed before?
We have a universal coin, Its called BitCoin


Sure, but topic is not about BTCCoin here.

Imagine people in undeveloped countries? They will never be able to mine BitCoin.
What they do have is some older machines still capable to mine, so they could get some taste of Freedom.
Also, I really like a few ideas of others to create coin where with older machine solo mining is promoted and new people get some incentive just as they start to mine.
 


Title: Re: So Many AltCoins,- How about creating Universal One?
Post by: mufa23 on July 15, 2013, 11:46:52 PM
We have a universal coin, Its called Bitcoin
but that attempt failed
Wait... Bitcoin "failed"?


Title: Re: So Many AltCoins,- How about creating Universal One?
Post by: markm on July 15, 2013, 11:48:28 PM
Oh yeah great idea, get people in undeveloped countries to use insecure money so script kiddies all over the developed world can take their money, brilliant.

-MarkM-


Title: Re: So Many AltCoins,- How about creating Universal One?
Post by: biaka on July 15, 2013, 11:52:49 PM
Has it ever been proposed before?
let me guess, your going to create it?

The topic of this poll is:

"Universal Community Coin (Open Source, no asics) everyone able to mine."

It also makes me sad that many users on this forum have no idea what open source is.



Title: Re: So Many AltCoins,- How about creating Universal One?
Post by: kelsey on July 15, 2013, 11:54:09 PM
We have a universal coin, Its called Bitcoin
but that attempt failed
Wait... Bitcoin "failed"?


yes., people here consider it a success merely based on its price vs USD.

however as an actual useable currency its a fail.

hell even look at its homepage the benefits listed simply are not true.



Title: Re: So Many AltCoins,- How about creating Universal One?
Post by: kelsey on July 15, 2013, 11:56:06 PM
Has it ever been proposed before?
let me guess, your going to create it?

The topic of this poll is:

"Universal Community Coin (Open Source, no asics) everyone able to mine."

It also makes me sad that many users on this forum have no idea what open source is.



makes me even sader that people develop a crypto in order to mine :(


Title: Re: So Many AltCoins,- How about creating Universal One?
Post by: biaka on July 16, 2013, 12:11:30 AM
Oh yeah great idea, get people in undeveloped countries to use insecure money so script kiddies all over the developed world can take their money, brilliant.

-MarkM-


Isn't it :)


Title: Re: So Many AltCoins,- How about creating Universal One?
Post by: whitedragon on July 16, 2013, 12:22:49 AM
So many fiat currencies out there....can't we just create a universal one to use globally?   ::)


Title: Re: So Many AltCoins,- How about creating Universal One?
Post by: kelsey on July 16, 2013, 12:25:39 AM
We have a universal coin, Its called Bitcoin
but that attempt failed
Wait... Bitcoin "failed"?


yes., people here consider it a success merely based on its price vs USD.

however as an actual useable currency its a fail.

hell even look at its homepage the benefits listed simply are not true.



As an actual useable currency it is in progress.


actually its getting worse

one of the focus' of satoshi's white paper was that the big banks fee's hinders micro transactions and btc was developed to overcome this :(


Title: Re: So Many AltCoins,- How about creating Universal One?
Post by: AgentME on July 16, 2013, 12:35:48 AM
Has it ever been proposed before?
We have a universal coin, Its called BitCoin


Sure, but topic is not about BTCCoin here.

Imagine people in undeveloped countries? They will never be able to mine BitCoin.
What they do have is some older machines still capable to mine, so they could get some taste of Freedom.
Also, I really like a few ideas of others to create coin where with older machine solo mining is promoted and new people get some incentive just as they start to mine.
 
Mining isn't the point of bitcoin. Most people who use the dollar will never get to print their own dollars either. That's not exactly a flaw.


Title: Re: So Many AltCoins,- How about creating Universal One?
Post by: BitcoinFX on July 16, 2013, 12:38:27 AM
So many fiat currencies out there....can't we just create a universal one to use globally?   ::)

Sure. Remember to let eveyone know when its ready for release, so someone can clone it.  :D   ;D


Title: Re: So Many AltCoins,- How about creating Universal One?
Post by: kelsey on July 16, 2013, 12:43:58 AM
Has it ever been proposed before?
We have a universal coin, Its called BitCoin


Sure, but topic is not about BTCCoin here.

Imagine people in undeveloped countries? They will never be able to mine BitCoin.
What they do have is some older machines still capable to mine, so they could get some taste of Freedom.
Also, I really like a few ideas of others to create coin where with older machine solo mining is promoted and new people get some incentive just as they start to mine.
 
Mining isn't the point of bitcoin. Most people who use the dollar will never get to print their own dollars either. That's not exactly a flaw.

yeah but if only an elite circle get to mine then its no better then the fiat elite who print the money? no?


Title: Re: So Many AltCoins,- How about creating Universal One?
Post by: markm on July 16, 2013, 12:45:09 AM
So parachute crates of ASICs into the third world...

-MarkM-


Title: Re: So Many AltCoins,- How about creating Universal One?
Post by: biaka on July 16, 2013, 12:52:47 AM
So many fiat currencies out there....can't we just create a universal one to use globally?   ::)

That's The Spirit!



Title: Re: So Many AltCoins,- How about creating Universal One?
Post by: kelsey on July 16, 2013, 12:54:44 AM
So many fiat currencies out there....can't we just create a universal one to use globally?   ::)

thought thats what the US was doing with the USD.....well they're certainly printing enough of them for everyone  ;)


Title: Re: So Many AltCoins,- How about creating Universal One?
Post by: biaka on July 16, 2013, 12:56:32 AM
So many fiat currencies out there....can't we just create a universal one to use globally?   ::)

Sure. Remember to let everyone know when its ready for release, so someone can clone it.  :D   ;D

Clone it, but to the better clone ;) that's how intellect develops....
(example) how bacteria develops to live in chemical reactor:
1: by learning
2: by adopting


Title: Re: So Many AltCoins,- How about creating Universal One?
Post by: whitedragon on July 16, 2013, 01:00:51 AM
So many fiat currencies out there....can't we just create a universal one to use globally?   ::)

thought thats what the US was doing with the USD.....well they're certainly printing enough of them for everyone  ;)

You got that right!   ;D


Title: Re: So Many AltCoins,- How about creating Universal One?
Post by: erk on July 16, 2013, 02:06:14 AM
Just what we need another coin!



Title: Re: So Many AltCoins,- How about creating Universal One?
Post by: AgentME on July 16, 2013, 02:13:41 AM
How about, instead of having a coin that has the block reward halve over time or go down when difficulty goes up, we had a coin where the block reward increased over time? Then everyone can mine profitably! /s


Title: Re: So Many AltCoins,- How about creating Universal One?
Post by: jackjack on July 16, 2013, 10:20:30 AM
Has it ever been proposed before?
let me guess, your going to create it?

The topic of this poll is:

"Universal Community Coin (Open Source, no asics) everyone able to mine."

It also makes me sad that many users on this forum have no idea what open source is.



makes me even sader that people develop a crypto in order to mine :(

Not only sad, but scary


Title: Re: So Many AltCoins,- How about creating Universal One?
Post by: Magic8Ball on July 16, 2013, 10:33:04 AM
So parachute crates of ASICs into the third world...

-MarkM-


Along with solar panels and DSL connections.


Title: Re: So Many AltCoins,- How about creating Universal One?
Post by: FreeTrade on July 16, 2013, 12:51:04 PM

Sure, but topic is not about BTCCoin here.

Imagine people in undeveloped countries? They will never be able to mine BitCoin.
What they do have is some older machines still capable to mine, so they could get some taste of Freedom.
Also, I really like a few ideas of others to create coin where with older machine solo mining is promoted and new people get some incentive just as they start to mine.
 

I like this idea too, and I think it was the original vision for Bitcoin. By the time it became clear that GPU mining would dominate, it was already too late to do anything about it. ASICs just make a bad situation worse.

Universal mining on CPU would have seen a much wider spread and adoption of Bitcoin during the press frenzy - the lack of GPU resistivity was a major flaw that has hindered Bitcoin. Tenebrix->Fairbrix->Litecoin sought to address this, but they have all failed in this objective where GPU miners dominate.

I'm currently creating an altcoin with universal CPU mining ability. Send me a private message if you'd like to be in the beta.


Title: Re: So Many AltCoins,- How about creating Universal One?
Post by: vinne81 on July 16, 2013, 12:58:23 PM

Imagine people in undeveloped countries? They will never be able to mine BitCoin.
What they do have is some older machines still capable to mine, so they could get some taste of Freedom.
 

That really sounds hilarious :) I bet these people in undeveloped countries aren't sad because they don't have the hardware to mine BTC, I think they are sad because their life is hard and their peers are savages  :D Aint no coin gonna to change that neither


Title: Re: So Many AltCoins,- How about creating Universal One?
Post by: i.Bitcoin on July 17, 2013, 09:11:19 PM
Yes, look at Alternate cryptocurrencies forum.
Everyday some new-coins have been made.
If all of these creators could get together would be great to have Universal One!

How about 'Global Miner's UNION'