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Title: Finalising 4000kh/s+ Builds
Post by: gooseta on July 16, 2013, 02:40:39 PM
Hi, guys. I have about £2500 to invest in litecoin rigs. One of the rigs is a replacement for my Sandy bridge rig and will be a gamer/miner, I will use it to game maybe 4 hours per month. The other rig is a cheap AMD platform. The haswell rig will run with my 7970, a 7950, and a 6950 I will purchase. The AMD build will run 4 7950s and a 6670 or super-budget card for displaying the screen w/o compromising the stability of the cards that are mining. Is it possible in cg miner or guiminer to only mine with four of the five Gpus I will have connected?
 
Here are the two builds, can they be improved?

Gamer/miner
I5-2500K
Gigabyte G1.Sniper2 (owned)
XFX 7970 (owned)
HIS or Sapphire 6950
Corsair HX1050 (owned)
Lian li T60
Optical drive, win7 h

Edit : updated build

The 7970 gives around 600kh/s, and the 6950 will get 400-450
Total hash rate : ~1000kh/s

AMD
Pentium G2010
Msi z77g65
4gb ram
5x sapphire vapor-x 7950
6670 (to power display)
Thermaltake 1475w psu
Optical drive, win7 hp
7950s will give around 600 each so 3000kh/s should be achievable. 6670 will give around 50kh/s should I decide to mine with it too.
Total hash rate : ~3000kh/s

Combined hash rate: ~ 4000kh/s

Thanks for your time!

Edit :builds updated






Title: Re: Finalising 4000kh/s+ Builds
Post by: malevolent on July 16, 2013, 03:27:24 PM
Is it possible in cg miner or guiminer to only mine with four of the five Gpus I will have connected?

Yes.

As for the builds you can make it cheaper by running some live usb linux flavor (e.g. Debian) as the OS, so no need for the drive and win7.

You can also save by using a dual core and a cheaper mobo (different socket), if you're gaming for only 4h a month do you really need a good cpu?

No need to buy a case too, more money saved.


Title: Re: Finalising 4000kh/s+ Builds
Post by: gooseta on July 16, 2013, 03:38:25 PM
Is it possible in cg miner or guiminer to only mine with four of the five Gpus I will have connected?

Yes.

As for the builds you can make it cheaper by running some live usb linux flavor (e.g. Debian) as the OS, so no need for the drive and win7.

You can also save by using a dual core and a cheaper mobo (different socket), if you're gaming for only 4h a month do you really need a good cpu?

No need to buy a case too, more money saved.

I've never used Linux but maybe I'll try it. Maybe I will keep my 2500k, and get a gigabyte z68x ud5, I could add another 6950 with the money...


Title: Re: Finalising 4000kh/s+ Builds
Post by: crazyates on July 16, 2013, 04:29:56 PM
I have a hard time recommending 6xxx cards for anything. Those 7xxx cards use way less power for the same KH/s, and are even better when undervolted.


Title: Re: Finalising 4000kh/s+ Builds
Post by: jlsminingcorp on July 16, 2013, 04:52:34 PM
Agreed, 7950s offer good MH/s/$ and run fairly cool. Some manufacturers' cards seem to run better than others. Gigabyte HD7950 Windforce 3 OCs are running nicely for us.


Title: Re: Finalising 4000kh/s+ Builds
Post by: gooseta on July 17, 2013, 05:39:14 AM
Ok, Which brand of 7950s should I get

Builds updated


Title: Re: Finalising 4000kh/s+ Builds
Post by: PoolMinor on July 17, 2013, 06:25:35 AM
Hi, guys. I have about £2500 to invest in litecoin rigs. One of the rigs is a replacement for my Sandy bridge rig and will be a gamer/miner, I will use it to game maybe 4 hours per month. The other rig is a cheap AMD platform. The haswell rig will run with my 7970, a 7950, and a 6950 I will purchase. The AMD build will run 4 7950s and a 6670 or super-budget card for displaying the screen w/o compromising the stability of the cards that are mining. Is it possible in cg miner or guiminer to only mine with four of the five Gpus I will have connected?
 
Here are the two builds, can they be improved?

Gamer/miner
I5-2500K
Gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD5
XFX 7970 (owned)
Sapphire vapor-x 7950
HIS or Sapphire 6950
Corsair HX1050 (owned)
Lian li T60
Optical drive, win7 h

Edit : updated build

The 7970 gives around 600kh/s, the 7950 should give around 600 too and the 6950 will get 400-450
Total hash rate : ~1600kh/s

AMD
Athlon ii x2 270
Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3
4gb ram
4x sapphire vapor-x 7950
6670 (to power display)
OCZ 1250W psu (might get a 1475w to be safe)
Optical drive, win7 hp
7950s will give around 600 each so 2500kh/s should be achievable. 6670 will give around 50kh/s should I decide to mine with it too.
Total hash rate : ~2500kh/s

Combined hash rate: ~ 4100kh/s

Thanks for your time!







You may want to rethink the Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3. I have one and it is difficult to mine with unless you are planning on using extenders, also the passive cooling on the board leaves virtually no space between the heat-sink on the board and one of the GPUs.


Title: Re: Finalising 4000kh/s+ Builds
Post by: gooseta on July 17, 2013, 07:19:44 AM
Hi, guys. I have about £2500 to invest in litecoin rigs. One of the rigs is a replacement for my Sandy bridge rig and will be a gamer/miner, I will use it to game maybe 4 hours per month. The other rig is a cheap AMD platform. The haswell rig will run with my 7970, a 7950, and a 6950 I will purchase. The AMD build will run 4 7950s and a 6670 or super-budget card for displaying the screen w/o compromising the stability of the cards that are mining. Is it possible in cg miner or guiminer to only mine with four of the five Gpus I will have connected?
 
Here are the two builds, can they be improved?

Gamer/miner
I5-2500K
Gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD5
XFX 7970 (owned)
Sapphire vapor-x 7950
HIS or Sapphire 6950
Corsair HX1050 (owned)
Lian li T60
Optical drive, win7 h

Edit : updated build

The 7970 gives around 600kh/s, the 7950 should give around 600 too and the 6950 will get 400-450
Total hash rate : ~1600kh/s

AMD
Athlon ii x2 270
Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3
4gb ram
4x sapphire vapor-x 7950
6670 (to power display)
OCZ 1250W psu (might get a 1475w to be safe)
Optical drive, win7 hp
7950s will give around 600 each so 2500kh/s should be achievable. 6670 will give around 50kh/s should I decide to mine with it too.
Total hash rate : ~2500kh/s

Combined hash rate: ~ 4100kh/s

Thanks for your time!







You may want to rethink the Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3. I have one and it is difficult to mine with unless you are planning on using extenders, also the passive cooling on the board leaves virtually no space between the heat-sink on the board and one of the GPUs.

Why is it difficult to mine with? Also what am3/ am3+ board would you recommend for use with risers?


Title: Re: Finalising 4000kh/s+ Builds
Post by: mercSuey on July 17, 2013, 08:22:11 AM
Hi, guys. I have about £2500 to invest in litecoin rigs. One of the rigs is a replacement for my Sandy bridge rig and will be a gamer/miner, I will use it to game maybe 4 hours per month. The other rig is a cheap AMD platform. The haswell rig will run with my 7970, a 7950, and a 6950 I will purchase. The AMD build will run 4 7950s and a 6670 or super-budget card for displaying the screen w/o compromising the stability of the cards that are mining. Is it possible in cg miner or guiminer to only mine with four of the five Gpus I will have connected?
 
Here are the two builds, can they be improved?

Gamer/miner
I5-2500K
Gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD5
XFX 7970 (owned)
Sapphire vapor-x 7950
HIS or Sapphire 6950
Corsair HX1050 (owned)
Lian li T60
Optical drive, win7 h

Edit : updated build

The 7970 gives around 600kh/s, the 7950 should give around 600 too and the 6950 will get 400-450
Total hash rate : ~1600kh/s

AMD
Athlon ii x2 270
Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3
4gb ram
4x sapphire vapor-x 7950
6670 (to power display)
OCZ 1250W psu (might get a 1475w to be safe)
Optical drive, win7 hp
7950s will give around 600 each so 2500kh/s should be achievable. 6670 will give around 50kh/s should I decide to mine with it too.
Total hash rate : ~2500kh/s

Combined hash rate: ~ 4100kh/s

Thanks for your time!







You may want to rethink the Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3. I have one and it is difficult to mine with unless you are planning on using extenders, also the passive cooling on the board leaves virtually no space between the heat-sink on the board and one of the GPUs.

Why is it difficult to mine with? Also what am3/ am3+ board would you recommend for use with risers?

I'm glad someone mentioned mobo issue.  I hate that mobo.  I have about 10mh, about to be expanded to 15mh in a few weeks once I settle into my new home.  You can't go wrong with MSI Z77G60.  Except you'll have to change your processor to an Intel 1650, preferably an Ivy Bridge proc if you want that last PCIx16 to be active.


Title: Re: Finalising 4000kh/s+ Builds
Post by: gooseta on July 17, 2013, 08:28:05 AM
Hi, guys. I have about £2500 to invest in litecoin rigs. One of the rigs is a replacement for my Sandy bridge rig and will be a gamer/miner, I will use it to game maybe 4 hours per month. The other rig is a cheap AMD platform. The haswell rig will run with my 7970, a 7950, and a 6950 I will purchase. The AMD build will run 4 7950s and a 6670 or super-budget card for displaying the screen w/o compromising the stability of the cards that are mining. Is it possible in cg miner or guiminer to only mine with four of the five Gpus I will have connected?
 
Here are the two builds, can they be improved?

Gamer/miner
I5-2500K
Gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD5
XFX 7970 (owned)
Sapphire vapor-x 7950
HIS or Sapphire 6950
Corsair HX1050 (owned)
Lian li T60
Optical drive, win7 h

Edit : updated build

The 7970 gives around 600kh/s, the 7950 should give around 600 too and the 6950 will get 400-450
Total hash rate : ~1600kh/s

AMD
Athlon ii x2 270
Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3
4gb ram
4x sapphire vapor-x 7950
6670 (to power display)
OCZ 1250W psu (might get a 1475w to be safe)
Optical drive, win7 hp
7950s will give around 600 each so 2500kh/s should be achievable. 6670 will give around 50kh/s should I decide to mine with it too.
Total hash rate : ~2500kh/s

Combined hash rate: ~ 4100kh/s

Thanks for your time!







You may want to rethink the Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3. I have one and it is difficult to mine with unless you are planning on using extenders, also the passive cooling on the board leaves virtually no space between the heat-sink on the board and one of the GPUs.

Why is it difficult to mine with? Also what am3/ am3+ board would you recommend for use with risers?

I'm glad someone mentioned mobo issue.  I hate that mobo.  I have about 10mh, about to be expanded to 15mh in a few weeks once I settle into my new home.  You can't go wrong with MSI Z77G60.  Except you'll have to change your processor to an Intel 1650, preferably an Ivy Bridge proc if you want that last PCIx16 to be active.

Will any ivb CPU work? I will check out the msi board and G2010

Edit : Can I crossfire the 5 Gpus? Edit : build updated


Title: Re: Finalising 4000kh/s+ Builds
Post by: gooseta on July 17, 2013, 10:17:59 AM
The sapphire vapor cards seem to be the best for hashing... Agree/disagree?


Title: Re: Finalising 4000kh/s+ Builds
Post by: jlsminingcorp on July 17, 2013, 10:52:37 AM
I don't have too much experience with other GPUs, as the Gigabytes have worked well for us (if it aint broke don't fix it), but I think I've seen vapour-Xs in other people's builds.

Don't crossfire the cards. This can lead to problems and lower hashrates in Windoze and is not needed for mining. Crossfire doesn't seem to have an adverse effect on my linux box for some reason, but it isn't needed so there's no need to take the risk. If you want to use your rig for gaming as well as mining then just hook up the crossfire cables when you switch to gaming mode.


Title: Re: Finalising 4000kh/s+ Builds
Post by: gooseta on July 17, 2013, 11:05:57 AM
I don't have too much experience with other GPUs, as the Gigabytes have worked well for us (if it aint broke don't fix it), but I think I've seen vapour-Xs in other people's builds.

Don't crossfire the cards. This can lead to problems and lower hashrates in Windoze and is not needed for mining. Crossfire doesn't seem to have an adverse effect on my linux box for some reason, but it isn't needed so there's no need to take the risk. If you want to use your rig for gaming as well as mining then just hook up the crossfire cables when you switch to gaming mode.

Good to know. Yeah I might hook up the cables when I want to show off benchmark scores or a bit of gaming

Edit: how many kh/s do your gigabytes get?


Title: Re: Finalising 4000kh/s+ Builds
Post by: Joerii on July 17, 2013, 12:18:58 PM
Don't even try linux for a mining Scrypt unless you are either very competent with Linux already or have a 150+ IQ.


Title: Re: Finalising 4000kh/s+ Builds
Post by: mercSuey on July 17, 2013, 12:53:22 PM
The sapphire vapor cards seem to be the best for hashing... Agree/disagree?

I don't like 7950s for two reasons. 1) because you have to run them at intensity 20, they draw more electricity than 7970s. 2)because of high intensity, I found them to be less stable and not as efficient as popular consensus claims.  Moreover, I had the standard Sapphire 7950s (the ones advertised on coinchoose), and those fans are as loud as a industrial vacuum cleaner.  So, if you don't have a basement or garage, or just some separate space for your rig, then it can get really annoying.  I have twelve 7970s, both Gigabyte and Sapphire Vapor-X.  The Vapor-X are awesome and seem to be most stable.  That's not to say the Giga's are bad.  It's just that the Vapor-X gpus have worked pretty much flawlessly.  The Giga's have had a couple hiccups along the way, but nothing serious.  But the Giga's were $400 usd from Amazon and I'm a prime member and I get 764kh on them.  The Vapor-X were $450 and I also get 764kh on them.  A quad rig pulls 1300 watts, without touching voltage. 

-Merc


Title: Re: Finalising 4000kh/s+ Builds
Post by: jlsminingcorp on July 17, 2013, 12:57:34 PM
Good to know. Yeah I might hook up the cables when I want to show off benchmark scores or a bit of gaming

Edit: how many kh/s do your gigabytes get?

I don't push them too hard (1000MHz core and mem clocks) and get around 560-580 kH/s with temps of 65-70 oC. If you're willing to push the core clock higher than this then I believe that you can go higher. In my hands the mem clock has less of an impact (even for scrypt!) In terms of temperature control, there's a big difference between one card and multiple cards, so think hard about your cooling solution. You'll need to deliver lots of cool air to the GPU fans to avoid them being heated up by their neighbours. Good luck and enjoy!


Title: Re: Finalising 4000kh/s+ Builds
Post by: jlsminingcorp on July 17, 2013, 12:59:20 PM

I don't like 7950s for two reasons. 1) because you have to run them at intensity 20, they draw more electricity than 7970s. 2)because of high intensity, I found them to be less stable and not as efficient as popular consensus claims.  Moreover, I had the standard Sapphire 7950s (the ones advertised on coinchoose), and those fans are as loud as a industrial vacuum cleaner.  So, if you don't have a basement or garage, or just some separate space for your rig, then it can get really annoying.  I have twelve 7970s, both Gigabyte and Sapphire Vapor-X.  The Vapor-X are awesome and seem to be most stable.  That's not to say the Giga's are bad.  It's just that the Vapor-X gpus have worked pretty much flawlessly.  The Giga's have had a couple hiccups along the way, but nothing serious.  But the Giga's were $400 usd from Amazon and I'm a prime member and I get 764kh on them.  The Vapor-X were $450 and I also get 764kh on them.  A quad rig pulls 1300 watts, without touching voltage. 

-Merc

Yes, they're all fking noisy. If you have a significant other, kids, pets etc. do them a favour and put your rig in the garage ;)!


Title: Re: Finalising 4000kh/s+ Builds
Post by: jlsminingcorp on July 17, 2013, 01:08:39 PM
Don't even try linux for a mining Scrypt unless you are either very competent with Linux already or have a 150+ IQ.

I'm not sure I agree. I don't remember it being any more difficult to set up scrypt mining in linux than SHA-256, you just need to run the cgminer configure script with --enable-scrypt flags. There are lots of tutorials (e.g. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=95718.0). Mining in linux is worth the effort in the long run, as it's much easier to switch between differnet coins and to automate your mining using your favourite shell scripting language.

I'm happy to share cgminer config files if anybody needs them (no guaraantee that they are optimised, but they may help).


Title: Re: Finalising 4000kh/s+ Builds
Post by: gooseta on July 17, 2013, 01:08:49 PM
The sapphire vapor cards seem to be the best for hashing... Agree/disagree?

I don't like 7950s for two reasons. 1) because you have to run them at intensity 20, they draw more electricity than 7970s. 2)because of high intensity, I found them to be less stable and not as efficient as popular consensus claims.  Moreover, I had the standard Sapphire 7950s (the ones advertised on coinchoose), and those fans are as loud as a industrial vacuum cleaner.  So, if you don't have a basement or garage, or just some separate space for your rig, then it can get really annoying.  I have twelve 7970s, both Gigabyte and Sapphire Vapor-X.  The Vapor-X are awesome and seem to be most stable.  That's not to say the Giga's are bad.  It's just that the Vapor-X gpus have worked pretty much flawlessly.  The Giga's have had a couple hiccups along the way, but nothing serious.  But the Giga's were $400 usd from Amazon and I'm a prime member and I get 764kh on them.  The Vapor-X were $450 and I also get 764kh on them.  A quad rig pulls 1300 watts, without touching voltage. 

-Merc

I was originally thinking of 7970s, but they draw more power : fact. A 5x7970 rig would require more than 1475w like my 5x 7950 build


Title: Re: Finalising 4000kh/s+ Builds
Post by: mercSuey on July 17, 2013, 01:32:06 PM
The sapphire vapor cards seem to be the best for hashing... Agree/disagree?

I don't like 7950s for two reasons. 1) because you have to run them at intensity 20, they draw more electricity than 7970s. 2)because of high intensity, I found them to be less stable and not as efficient as popular consensus claims.  Moreover, I had the standard Sapphire 7950s (the ones advertised on coinchoose), and those fans are as loud as a industrial vacuum cleaner.  So, if you don't have a basement or garage, or just some separate space for your rig, then it can get really annoying.  I have twelve 7970s, both Gigabyte and Sapphire Vapor-X.  The Vapor-X are awesome and seem to be most stable.  That's not to say the Giga's are bad.  It's just that the Vapor-X gpus have worked pretty much flawlessly.  The Giga's have had a couple hiccups along the way, but nothing serious.  But the Giga's were $400 usd from Amazon and I'm a prime member and I get 764kh on them.  The Vapor-X were $450 and I also get 764kh on them.  A quad rig pulls 1300 watts, without touching voltage. 

-Merc

I was originally thinking of 7970s, but they draw more power : fact. A 5x7970 rig would require more than 1475w like my 5x 7950 build

I forgot to mention resale value of 7970s are much better.  This is going to come into play when next gen models hit the market later this year (supposedly).


Title: Re: Finalising 4000kh/s+ Builds
Post by: gooseta on July 17, 2013, 01:35:11 PM
The sapphire vapor cards seem to be the best for hashing... Agree/disagree?

I don't like 7950s for two reasons. 1) because you have to run them at intensity 20, they draw more electricity than 7970s. 2)because of high intensity, I found them to be less stable and not as efficient as popular consensus claims.  Moreover, I had the standard Sapphire 7950s (the ones advertised on coinchoose), and those fans are as loud as a industrial vacuum cleaner.  So, if you don't have a basement or garage, or just some separate space for your rig, then it can get really annoying.  I have twelve 7970s, both Gigabyte and Sapphire Vapor-X.  The Vapor-X are awesome and seem to be most stable.  That's not to say the Giga's are bad.  It's just that the Vapor-X gpus have worked pretty much flawlessly.  The Giga's have had a couple hiccups along the way, but nothing serious.  But the Giga's were $400 usd from Amazon and I'm a prime member and I get 764kh on them.  The Vapor-X were $450 and I also get 764kh on them.  A quad rig pulls 1300 watts, without touching voltage. 

-Merc

I was originally thinking of 7970s, but they draw more power : fact. A 5x7970 rig would require more than 1475w like my 5x 7950 build

I forgot to mention resale value of 7970s are much better.  This is going to come into play when next gen models hit the market later this year (supposedly).

Yes but 5x 7950 is £1600 and makes 2800-3000kh/s. 4x 7970 is £1600 and makes 2600 kh/s and draws more power


Title: Re: Finalising 4000kh/s+ Builds
Post by: gooseta on July 17, 2013, 03:33:11 PM
The sapphire vapor cards seem to be the best for hashing... Agree/disagree?

I don't like 7950s for two reasons. 1) because you have to run them at intensity 20, they draw more electricity than 7970s. 2)because of high intensity, I found them to be less stable and not as efficient as popular consensus claims.  Moreover, I had the standard Sapphire 7950s (the ones advertised on coinchoose), and those fans are as loud as a industrial vacuum cleaner.  So, if you don't have a basement or garage, or just some separate space for your rig, then it can get really annoying.  I have twelve 7970s, both Gigabyte and Sapphire Vapor-X.  The Vapor-X are awesome and seem to be most stable.  That's not to say the Giga's are bad.  It's just that the Vapor-X gpus have worked pretty much flawlessly.  The Giga's have had a couple hiccups along the way, but nothing serious.  But the Giga's were $400 usd from Amazon and I'm a prime member and I get 764kh on them.  The Vapor-X were $450 and I also get 764kh on them.  A quad rig pulls 1300 watts, without touching voltage. 

-Merc

I was originally thinking of 7970s, but they draw more power : fact. A 5x7970 rig would require more than 1475w like my 5x 7950 build

I forgot to mention resale value of 7970s are much better.  This is going to come into play when next gen models hit the market later this year (supposedly).

Yes but I won't be selling the cards for many years...


Title: Re: Finalising 4000kh/s+ Builds
Post by: PoolMinor on July 17, 2013, 08:46:45 PM

Why is it difficult to mine with? Also what am3/ am3+ board would you recommend for use with risers?


Sorry, I don't have a recommendation other than to NOT use the Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3, I am only a hobbyist miner with 2 7870XT's on an ASUS M4A78T-E.

Good Luck!

-PoolMinor


Title: Re: Finalising 4000kh/s+ Builds
Post by: zackclark70 on July 17, 2013, 08:55:19 PM
4 7950 vapour x cards draw under 900w from the wall  use 1050mhz core 1250mhz ram 1.050v and you will get 630kh-640kh per card


Title: Re: Finalising 4000kh/s+ Builds
Post by: broken_pixel on July 17, 2013, 08:58:15 PM
990FXA-UD5 board you might find for 100.00 USD and supports 5 gpus without having to short out the pcie slots.

As for the GPUs I would suggest either MSI R7950s REV 1.0 8pin 6pin (not hardware locked) or Gigalock cards flashed to F43 BIOS or you will be stuck with a hardware locked voltage of 1.250v.  :o

4,000KH/s is not going to get you many LTC these days, you would be better off mining DGC and other ALT coins.

This site is helpful for determining what coins to mine.
http://www.coinwarz.com/


Title: Re: Finalising 4000kh/s+ Builds
Post by: gooseta on July 17, 2013, 11:15:18 PM
990FXA-UD5 board you might find for 100.00 USD and supports 5 gpus without having to short out the pcie slots.

As for the GPUs I would suggest either MSI R7950s REV 1.0 8pin 6pin (not hardware locked) or Gigalock cards flashed to F43 BIOS or you will be stuck with a hardware locked voltage of 1.250v.  :o

4,000KH/s is not going to get you many LTC these days, you would be better off mining DGC and other ALT coins.

This site is helpful for determining what coins to mine.
http://www.coinwarz.com/

How many kh ash/s do your msi cards get and how much do they draw from the wall


Title: Re: Finalising 4000kh/s+ Builds
Post by: Duffer1 on July 18, 2013, 12:53:26 AM
I'd invest a bit in the CPUs as well (the more cores the better).  If you're building a mining ring you might as well get the best CPUs you can as well so you can swap over to any new coin that catches your eye and not worry about if it's better to mine said coin with cpu or gpu.

You could also cpu mine primecoin VERY efficiently while mining your LTCs.


Title: Re: Finalising 4000kh/s+ Builds
Post by: gooseta on July 18, 2013, 08:13:34 AM
I'd invest a bit in the CPUs as well (the more cores the better).  If you're building a mining ring you might as well get the best CPUs you can as well so you can swap over to any new coin that catches your eye and not worry about if it's better to mine said coin with cpu or gpu.

You could also cpu mine primecoin VERY efficiently while mining your LTCs.

I'd rather invest in Gpus than CPUs, how profitable is prime coin


Title: Re: Finalising 4000kh/s+ Builds
Post by: Duffer1 on July 18, 2013, 12:09:42 PM
I'd invest a bit in the CPUs as well (the more cores the better).  If you're building a mining ring you might as well get the best CPUs you can as well so you can swap over to any new coin that catches your eye and not worry about if it's better to mine said coin with cpu or gpu.

You could also cpu mine primecoin VERY efficiently while mining your LTCs.

I'd rather invest in Gpus than CPUs, how profitable is prime coin

It's not profitable (unless price/demand goes up), but LTC is in that same boat right now too.  Right now an alt coin mining rig would really just be a way to crank out some hashes on promising new alt coins.  It likely won't be profitable as a pure LTC rig unless their value goes up.  

If LTC is all you want then buying $4k worth of LTC might be the better way to go.  (look at it this way:  for $4k you could buy 1,333 coins, or you can spend 300 days mining 1,333 coins (don't forget cost of electricity)).  It would take 10 months or so at current $ values (+ difficulty) to break even on your proposed rig (not including electricity, it adds up FAST for GPU rigs).



Title: Re: Finalising 4000kh/s+ Builds
Post by: gooseta on July 18, 2013, 01:33:39 PM
I'd invest a bit in the CPUs as well (the more cores the better).  If you're building a mining ring you might as well get the best CPUs you can as well so you can swap over to any new coin that catches your eye and not worry about if it's better to mine said coin with cpu or gpu.

You could also cpu mine primecoin VERY efficiently while mining your LTCs.

I'd rather invest in Gpus than CPUs, how profitable is prime coin

It's not profitable (unless price/demand goes up), but LTC is in that same boat right now too.  Right now an alt coin mining rig would really just be a way to crank out some hashes on promising new alt coins.  It likely won't be profitable as a pure LTC rig unless their value goes up.  

If LTC is all you want then buying $4k worth of LTC might be the better way to go.  (look at it this way:  for $4k you could buy 1,333 coins, or you can spend 300 days mining 1,333 coins (don't forget cost of electricity)).  It would take 10 months or so at current $ values (+ difficulty) to break even on your proposed rig (not including electricity, it adds up FAST for GPU rigs).



Yeah, I didn't mention it but I am not attached to ltc. I'm looking into fastcoin and other alts. Even some small ones which I can exchange for ltc btc. It is for fun and my goal is to make £750, I don't need to break even, and I can use the 7950s in many builds to come.

Edit : the twin frozr and vaporx cards are around £260 and the gigabyte cards are £240, so I can save £100 w/ gigabyte cards, is it worth it?


Title: Re: Finalising 4000kh/s+ Builds
Post by: gooseta on July 19, 2013, 02:36:55 PM
Also I'm buying a custom case from http://richchomiczewski.wordpress.com/ here on bitcointalk.


Title: Re: Finalising 4000kh/s+ Builds
Post by: Lauda on July 19, 2013, 02:43:06 PM
I'd invest a bit in the CPUs as well (the more cores the better).  If you're building a mining ring you might as well get the best CPUs you can as well so you can swap over to any new coin that catches your eye and not worry about if it's better to mine said coin with cpu or gpu.

You could also cpu mine primecoin VERY efficiently while mining your LTCs.

I'd rather invest in Gpus than CPUs, how profitable is prime coin
If you had jumped early on with a few i5 or i7, would have earned triple-quad digits in the first few days :)
Builds are okay imo  ;)


Title: Re: Finalising 4000kh/s+ Builds
Post by: gooseta on July 19, 2013, 03:59:58 PM
I'd invest a bit in the CPUs as well (the more cores the better).  If you're building a mining ring you might as well get the best CPUs you can as well so you can swap over to any new coin that catches your eye and not worry about if it's better to mine said coin with cpu or gpu.

You could also cpu mine primecoin VERY efficiently while mining your LTCs.

I'd rather invest in Gpus than CPUs, how profitable is prime coin
If you had jumped early on with a few i5 or i7, would have earned triple-quad digits in the first few days :)
Builds are okay imo  ;)

Thanks. Can anyone offer input regarding Gigabyte WF vs Sapphire VX 7950s