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Title: AMD New Drivers Adrenalin - mining Perf same, Claymore temp/fan monitoring broke
Post by: deadsix on December 12, 2017, 08:26:25 PM
AMD Released their next major driver overhaul after Relive, the Adrenalin driver set.
Introduce a lot of gaming centric features, better screen capture, overlays etc.
For miners, performance is unchanged and we still have the Graphics/Compute toggle which now seems to be a permanent fixture in AMD Drivers.

Here is a quick overview for those interested https://www.anandtech.com/show/12147/amd-releases-radeon-software-adrenalin-edition (https://www.anandtech.com/show/12147/amd-releases-radeon-software-adrenalin-edition)

I have installed them and am mining using them on a 4 GPU test rig, I see no improvement on Eth on Claymore 10.2, but they appear to me more stable mining XMR on Claymore 10.2 compared to previous version of drivers. However, Temperature and Fanspeed monitoring in Claymore's miners is not working.
I believe an update for the Claymore XMR miner is in the works, I hope that brings in rock solid stability like we see on the ETH miner.

Update : Cast XMR miner (even the latest version 0.8 ) does not detect these AMD drivers, so does not work with them.


Title: Re: AMD releases new drivers - Adrenalin - Mining performance unchanged
Post by: Za1n on December 12, 2017, 08:31:46 PM
Thanks for posting. I was just about to download fresh drivers for a rig that's been acting up lately and I seen these Adrenalin drivers published today. Before I did though I thought I would check to see if anyone tested them yet with mining. Here is hoping for a slight improvement, stability would be great.


Title: Re: AMD releases new drivers - Adrenalin - Mining performance unchanged
Post by: deadsix on December 12, 2017, 08:55:41 PM
Thanks for posting. I was just about to download fresh drivers for a rig that's been acting up lately and I seen these Adrenalin drivers published today. Before I did though I thought I would check to see if anyone tested them yet with mining. Here is hoping for a slight improvement, stability would be great.

WARNING : the drivers break temp/fan reporting for claymore. Use at own risk. For now I'd stay stick to what you already have. I dont know how this took me so long to notice lol.


Title: Re: AMD releases new drivers - Adrenalin - Mining performance unchanged
Post by: Za1n on December 12, 2017, 09:07:42 PM
Thanks for posting. I was just about to download fresh drivers for a rig that's been acting up lately and I seen these Adrenalin drivers published today. Before I did though I thought I would check to see if anyone tested them yet with mining. Here is hoping for a slight improvement, stability would be great.

WARNING : the drivers break temp/fan reporting for claymore. Use at own risk. For now I'd stay stick to what you already have. I dont know how this took me so long to notice lol.

Yep, I just got them installed and can confirm temperatures and fan settings break (at least with Claymore 10.2), was just coming back to post this as well.

I can control them in wattman though, so I may test them out for awhile until Claymore can get around to making a new patch.


Title: Re: AMD New Drivers Adrenalin - mining Perf same, Claymore temp/fan monitoring broke
Post by: Vann on December 12, 2017, 09:15:19 PM
Just looks like more bloatware for gamers and still shows a known issue with 12+ GPU's. AMD blockchain drivers on Windows v1703 are working fine for me with RX 570/580's and I don't see a reason to change.

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A random system hang may be experienced after extended periods of use on system configurations using 12 GPU's for compute workloads.

https://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/Radeon-Software-Adrenalin-Edition-17.12.1-Release-Notes.aspx


Title: Re: AMD New Drivers Adrenalin - mining Perf same, Claymore temp/fan monitoring broke
Post by: bouldou on December 12, 2017, 09:16:42 PM
What's the point to install those drivers, if it doesn't improve hashrate and breaks Claymore's compatibility ?

I'll stick with my old blockchain driver  ;D


Title: Re: AMD New Drivers Adrenalin - mining Perf same, Claymore temp/fan monitoring broke
Post by: Omg9500 on December 12, 2017, 09:27:01 PM
Just looks like more bloatware for gamers and still shows a known issue with 12+ GPU's. AMD blockchain drivers on Windows v1703 are working fine for me with RX 570/580's and I don't see a reason to change.

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A random system hang may be experienced after extended periods of use on system configurations using 12 GPU's for compute workloads.

https://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/Radeon-Software-Adrenalin-Edition-17.12.1-Release-Notes.aspx

Blockchain drivers support only upto 8 GPUs if I am not mistaken. I am running on 17.11.4 drivers which support upto 12 GPUs and my rig with 10 GPUs is running stable. Hence why change?


Title: Re: AMD New Drivers Adrenalin - mining Perf same, Claymore temp/fan monitoring broke
Post by: Branko on December 12, 2017, 09:30:38 PM
Also, crashes mkxminer for me


Title: Re: AMD New Drivers Adrenalin - mining Perf same, Claymore temp/fan monitoring broke
Post by: MickDaster on December 14, 2017, 01:51:38 AM
the only thing that it did to me was drop of 29mh sper card to 18mhs and some card even to 10mhs which is bizzare i am switching back to old ones


Title: Re: AMD New Drivers Adrenalin - mining Perf same, Claymore temp/fan monitoring broke
Post by: Grimbarian on December 14, 2017, 09:44:33 PM
SAPPHIRE NITRO+ Radeon 580 has no workload toggle with these drivers, anyone else experience this?


Title: Re: AMD New Drivers Adrenalin - mining Perf same, Claymore temp/fan monitoring broke
Post by: R0land on December 14, 2017, 09:55:24 PM
After a few minutes of mining ETH with Claymore, the miner hangs and restart automaticly, but consumes more power (+20%).
 :(


Title: Re: AMD New Drivers Adrenalin - mining Perf same, Claymore temp/fan monitoring broke
Post by: MickDaster on December 14, 2017, 10:53:50 PM
i had the same issue, cards are using more power and then after an hour they stop working, i went back to original blockchain


Title: Re: AMD New Drivers Adrenalin - mining Perf same, Claymore temp/fan monitoring broke
Post by: BCCrypto68 on December 15, 2017, 05:15:42 AM
Just wanted to throw my info into the ring. I'm doing some testing on building a mining rig, and I've been stable on my personal desktop with Win 10 x64 on Crimson 17.11.4 drivers on an MSI RX 580 8GB- because of conditions it's running under I'm getting ~23 MH/s ETH & 60 MH/s LBRY dual mining using Claymore 10.2. For me using the block-chain drivers -vs- the production drivers changed to compute it didn't make a hashrate difference.

Once I installed the new Adrenalin drivers my hash rates went to ~31+ MH/s & 80+ MH/s with the card running cooler and using less power, however ETH wasn't actually hashing - I kept getting an error and I wasn't getting any shares into the pool - however the LBRY hash rate was legit and I was successful in mining those.
 
I've also experienced the no fan/gpu/mem speed control issues, but I was able to use wattman or afterbuner to control those.


Title: Re: AMD New Drivers Adrenalin - mining Perf same, Claymore temp/fan monitoring broke
Post by: MickDaster on December 17, 2017, 12:08:45 AM
how much  did the hash rate increase? and which cards you got?


Title: Re: AMD New Drivers Adrenalin - mining Perf same, Claymore temp/fan monitoring broke
Post by: Grimbarian on December 17, 2017, 08:59:47 AM
Just wanted to throw my info into the ring. I'm doing some testing on building a mining rig, and I've been stable on my personal desktop with Win 10 x64 on Crimson 17.11.4 drivers on an MSI RX 580 8GB- because of conditions it's running under I'm getting ~23 MH/s ETH & 60 MH/s LBRY dual mining using Claymore 10.2. For me using the block-chain drivers -vs- the production drivers changed to compute it didn't make a hashrate difference.

Once I installed the new Adrenalin drivers my hash rates went to ~31+ MH/s & 80+ MH/s with the card running cooler and using less power, however ETH wasn't actually hashing - I kept getting an error and I wasn't getting any shares into the pool - however the LBRY hash rate was legit and I was successful in mining those.
 
I've also experienced the no fan/gpu/mem speed control issues, but I was able to use wattman or afterbuner to control those.

I'm assuming you enable computing mode? Is it normal if you have two or more cards there's no workload option?


Title: Re: AMD New Drivers Adrenalin - mining Perf same, Claymore temp/fan monitoring broke
Post by: MickDaster on December 19, 2017, 07:14:02 PM
Any more news on usage of this new amd driver  or not?


Title: Re: AMD New Drivers Adrenalin - mining Perf same, Claymore temp/fan monitoring broke
Post by: oddity2505 on December 19, 2017, 07:46:05 PM
Is there improvement on any of the 17.1x drivers over blockchain ones? Especially for monero mining?


Title: Re: AMD New Drivers Adrenalin - mining Perf same, Claymore temp/fan monitoring broke
Post by: MickDaster on December 20, 2017, 10:30:24 PM
as far as i have seen the only thing that it does is crash cant stabilize it, so i moved back to the old ones


Title: Re: AMD New Drivers Adrenalin - mining Perf same, Claymore temp/fan monitoring broke
Post by: UnclWish on December 21, 2017, 05:42:12 PM
AMD released 17.12.2 driver. Who tried allready, is they repaired compatibility with Claymore temp/voltage/fans monitoring and control?


Title: Re: AMD New Drivers Adrenalin - mining Perf same, Claymore temp/fan monitoring broke
Post by: Skull_perm on December 21, 2017, 07:06:34 PM
AMD released 17.12.2 driver. Who tried allready, is they repaired compatibility with Claymore temp/voltage/fans monitoring and control?

No


Title: Re: AMD New Drivers Adrenalin - mining Perf same, Claymore temp/fan monitoring broke
Post by: UnclWish on December 21, 2017, 07:39:04 PM
AMD released 17.12.2 driver. Who tried allready, is they repaired compatibility with Claymore temp/voltage/fans monitoring and control?

No
Thanks. Will not install it then...


Title: Re: AMD New Drivers Adrenalin - mining Perf same, Claymore temp/fan monitoring broke
Post by: MickDaster on December 21, 2017, 11:42:15 PM
AMD released 17.12.2 driver. Who tried allready, is they repaired compatibility with Claymore temp/voltage/fans monitoring and control?

No
Thanks. Will not install it then...

Just wait a while and there will probably a new version of miners which will work with the new AMD drivers


Title: Re: AMD New Drivers Adrenalin - mining Perf same, Claymore temp/fan monitoring broke
Post by: Metroid on December 21, 2017, 11:56:34 PM
AMD released 17.12.2 driver. Who tried allready, is they repaired compatibility with Claymore temp/voltage/fans monitoring and control?

It is not amd that needs to do anything to fix it, its claymore that needs to do something to match amd's settings.

Just wait a while and there will probably a new version of miners which will work with the new AMD drivers

This.


Title: Re: AMD New Drivers Adrenalin - mining Perf same, Claymore temp/fan monitoring broke
Post by: dlezama on December 22, 2017, 02:57:01 AM
With 17.12.1 wattman became horribly slow, every time I click on a card I have to wait a couple of minutes for it to appear. Anyone else seeing this? I didn't find it as a known issue for the release.


Title: Re: AMD New Drivers Adrenalin - mining Perf same, Claymore temp/fan monitoring broke
Post by: toptek on December 22, 2017, 03:29:39 AM
With 17.12.1 wattman became horribly slow, every time I click on a card I have to wait a couple of minutes for it to appear. Anyone else seeing this? I didn't find it as a known issue for the release.


why not us the new version of after burner 4.2.2 final  out today it works with that driver and one card, haven't tested it yet on a four card rig . which was or maybe was having issue with four cards or more and that driver,


Title: Re: AMD New Drivers Adrenalin - mining Perf same, Claymore temp/fan monitoring broke
Post by: dlezama on December 22, 2017, 03:53:23 AM
With 17.12.1 wattman became horribly slow, every time I click on a card I have to wait a couple of minutes for it to appear. Anyone else seeing this? I didn't find it as a known issue for the release.


why not us the new version of after burner 4.2.2 final  out today it works with that driver and one card, haven't tested it yet on a four card rig . which was or maybe was having issue with four cards or more and that driver,

Afterburner doesn't seem to recognize my cards correctly, even the name of the cards appears blank.
Edit: RX-580 cards


Title: Re: AMD New Drivers Adrenalin - mining Perf same, Claymore temp/fan monitoring broke
Post by: Lenorag on December 22, 2017, 03:57:16 AM
What's the point to install those drivers, if it doesn't improve hashrate and breaks Claymore's compatibility ?

I'll stick with my old blockchain driver  ;D

same here  ;D


Title: Re: AMD New Drivers Adrenalin - mining Perf same, Claymore temp/fan monitoring broke
Post by: tets on December 22, 2017, 04:33:54 AM
has anyone worked out a way to turn on compute mode on recent drivers without using AMD settings?


Title: Re: AMD New Drivers Adrenalin - mining Perf same, Claymore temp/fan monitoring broke
Post by: UnclWish on December 22, 2017, 07:27:25 PM
has anyone worked out a way to turn on compute mode on recent drivers without using AMD settings?

Yes, it's exists way through registry editing. Just search "Mining (Altcoins)" part of forum.


Title: Re: AMD New Drivers Adrenalin - mining Perf same, Claymore temp/fan monitoring broke
Post by: Souran on December 25, 2017, 11:30:28 PM
has anyone worked out a way to turn on compute mode on recent drivers without using AMD settings?

add this DWORD to the below registry path: KMD_EnableInternalLargePage, set value to 2 to enable compute mode

"HKLM\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\Class\{4d36e968-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}\XXXX"
where "XXXX" is the card number.


Title: Re: AMD New Drivers Adrenalin - mining Perf same, Claymore temp/fan monitoring broke
Post by: djentmining on January 05, 2018, 09:31:25 AM
Was planning to update to adrenalin read this topic gonna stick with beta blockchain one until they fix this.

Thanks for the info guys :)


Title: Re: AMD New Drivers Adrenalin - mining Perf same, Claymore temp/fan monitoring broke
Post by: Vann on January 05, 2018, 10:28:10 AM
Thanks to Claymore, the latest AMD Adrenaline 17.12.2 drivers in compute mode are working with Claymore v10.3. You can set temperature, fan control and also set the overclock, powerlimit and voltages directly in the miner command line or config file. Works great with my ASRock H110 Pro BTC+ 13 card build.

https://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/Radeon-Software-Adrenalin-Edition-17.12.2-Release-Notes.aspx

If you want to use Afterburner with more than 3 GPU's, you need to use the AMD Aug. 23rd blockchain drivers on Windows 10 v1703 and you are limited to a max of 8 AMD cards.

https://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/Radeon-Software-Crimson-ReLive-Edition-Beta-for-Blockchain-Compute-Release-Notes.aspx


Title: Re: AMD New Drivers Adrenalin - mining Perf same, Claymore temp/fan monitoring broke
Post by: djentmining on January 05, 2018, 10:36:00 AM
Thanks to Claymore, the latest AMD Adrenaline 17.12.2 drivers in compute mode are working with Claymore v10.3. You can set temperature, fan control and also set the overclock, powerlimit and voltages directly in the miner command line or config file. Works great with my ASRock H110 Pro BTC+ 13 card build.

https://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/Radeon-Software-Adrenalin-Edition-17.12.2-Release-Notes.aspx

If you want to use Afterburner with more than 3 GPU's, you need to use the AMD Aug. 23rd blockchain drivers on Windows 10 v1703 and you are limited to a max of 8 AMD cards.

https://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/Radeon-Software-Crimson-ReLive-Edition-Beta-for-Blockchain-Compute-Release-Notes.aspx

Awesome thanks man!! I got 7x Sapphire RX580's running on claymore 10.2 win 1703 using AMD Aug. 23rd blockchain drivers
Msi AB 4.4.2 latest when i try to undervolt it's not doing anything can't figure the problem. It's drawing a lot of power ~135w per card, that's why i came here to check if the new adrenalin software would help me -_-


Title: Re: AMD New Drivers Adrenalin - mining Perf same, Claymore temp/fan monitoring broke
Post by: john1010 on January 06, 2018, 12:50:41 AM
Hi guys I've been using windows 10 1709 x64 ang using the latest adrenalin drive with claymore 10.3 but seems that this combination is a problem to me, by the way my mobo is asus b250 mining expert, I can't control the fan, core voltage, mem clock and core clock... do you have the 3rd party app working on this like afterburner? Need your help. Thanks


Title: Re: AMD New Drivers Adrenalin - mining Perf same, Claymore temp/fan monitoring broke
Post by: nshrd on January 08, 2018, 12:11:38 PM
droblesa hi

can you please share your claymore 10.3 config?


Title: Re: AMD New Drivers Adrenalin - mining Perf same, Claymore temp/fan monitoring broke
Post by: hozerdev on January 09, 2018, 11:35:47 PM
Upgraded RX580 rigs to the new driver and Claymore 10.3. All works fine getting the same hash rate. Cast XMR 0.8 works fine too, same hashrate, had to add --forcecompute and --opencl=1 options to make it work.

However the Vega 64 rig doesn't work with new driver, apparently the issue is in Cast XMR miner. First of all it doesn't work with "--forcecompute and --opencl=1" and the vega cards, don't know why. But haven't had much time to play with it though. I think there should be the way to make it work. The miner just hangs or complains on --opencl=1
And also devcon doesn't disable/enable the drivers programmatically(actually it hangs when trying to enable them), which is probably not needed with new driver.


Title: Re: AMD New Drivers Adrenalin - mining Perf same, Claymore temp/fan monitoring broke
Post by: ol92 on January 10, 2018, 12:07:30 PM
Upgraded RX580 rigs to the new driver and Claymore 10.3. All works fine getting the same hash rate. Cast XMR 0.8 works fine too, same hashrate, had to add --forcecompute and --opencl=1 options to make it work.

However the Vega 64 rig doesn't work with new driver, apparently the issue is in Cast XMR miner. First of all it doesn't work with "--forcecompute and --opencl=1" and the vega cards, don't know why. But haven't had much time to play with it though. I think there should be the way to make it work. The miner just hangs or complains on --opencl=1
And also devcon doesn't disable/enable the drivers programmatically(actually it hangs when trying to enable them), which is probably not needed with new driver.
--opencl is to choose the right platform : which depends on the presence of an intel or nvidia gpu ...
Try without this option or with other values than 1 (0/2).



Title: Re: AMD New Drivers Adrenalin - mining Perf same, Claymore temp/fan monitoring broke
Post by: percy_tc on January 10, 2018, 12:25:38 PM
Hi guys I've been using windows 10 1709 x64 ang using the latest adrenalin drive with claymore 10.3 but seems that this combination is a problem to me, by the way my mobo is asus b250 mining expert, I can't control the fan, core voltage, mem clock and core clock... do you have the 3rd party app working on this like afterburner? Need your help. Thanks

OverdriveNTool works perfectly for me.


Title: Re: AMD New Drivers Adrenalin - mining Perf same, Claymore temp/fan monitoring broke
Post by: POM on January 10, 2018, 12:53:16 PM
the Vega 64 reference models don't seem to be liking this driver too much. one of the 64s hangs after about an hour on Claymore v10.1
the 56s seem to be happy/stable.


Title: Re: AMD New Drivers Adrenalin - mining Perf same, Claymore temp/fan monitoring broke
Post by: dlezama on January 10, 2018, 05:32:40 PM
Wattman is now with this driver horribly slow, every time I switch to a different card it takes like 20 seconds. Other than that I see no difference. I'm using the integrated intel for video, anyone else having this issue?


Title: Re: AMD New Drivers Adrenalin - mining Perf same, Claymore temp/fan monitoring broke
Post by: MarkSinn on January 10, 2018, 05:40:32 PM
AMD august blockchain driver for now with vega 56 is the best option.


Title: Re: AMD New Drivers Adrenalin - mining Perf same, Claymore temp/fan monitoring broke
Post by: MickDaster on February 09, 2018, 02:32:53 AM
AMD august blockchain driver for now with vega 56 is the best option.

i agree with that, other new drivers are really bad at least for me


Title: Re: AMD New Drivers Adrenalin - mining Perf same, Claymore temp/fan monitoring broke
Post by: faanigee on March 08, 2018, 04:53:18 PM
is there any body using after burner 4.4.2 with 18.2.1 with rx 570 4gb...???
i think Adrenalin is not supported buy after burner...!!!


Title: Re: AMD New Drivers Adrenalin - mining Perf same, Claymore temp/fan monitoring broke
Post by: kgminer on March 18, 2018, 09:27:03 AM
facing the same problem where temperatures, fan and OC settings break and can't use claymore to control these settings.

these settings work fine with these drivers until rig crashes for some reason (like the power outage), a notification appears that wattman settings have been restored to default and then I lose all the control.

Trying to find a workaround, once I get somewhere will update everyone here.


Title: Re: AMD New Drivers Adrenalin - mining Perf same, Claymore temp/fan monitoring broke
Post by: MickDaster on March 22, 2018, 09:29:11 PM
is there any body using after burner 4.4.2 with 18.2.1 with rx 570 4gb...???
i think Adrenalin is not supported buy after burner...!!!

i was using it and  gave me a headache i switched to ndrivetool, far better


Title: Re: AMD New Drivers Adrenalin - mining Perf same, Claymore temp/fan monitoring broke
Post by: ermis1975 on May 05, 2018, 06:15:02 AM
What about 18.4.1 version ? Have you try to mine with it?


Title: Re: AMD New Drivers Adrenalin - mining Perf same, Claymore temp/fan monitoring broke
Post by: UnclWish on May 05, 2018, 06:29:35 AM
I encountered bug with 18.4.1 - periodically speed on GPU on wich display connected to drops to 0.


Title: Re: AMD New Drivers Adrenalin - mining Perf same, Claymore temp/fan monitoring broke
Post by: CryptoAllDay on July 13, 2018, 02:17:45 AM
Since we're on the topic, which AMD driver is working the best for you guys?  I'm having the best performance on 18.6.1 and 18.5.1 on Compute mode compared to other driver versions (including the latest 18.7).


Title: Re: AMD New Drivers Adrenalin - mining Perf same, Claymore temp/fan monitoring broke
Post by: peteris-apse on July 13, 2018, 04:30:31 AM
I am using different version on every rig and dont feel any difference. Maybe vega rig needs some specific driver, but other cards will work fine with latest version usually.


Title: Re: AMD New Drivers Adrenalin - mining Perf same, Claymore temp/fan monitoring broke
Post by: 4ward on July 13, 2018, 12:33:45 PM
18.4.1 were buggy, so just stay away

Best would be 18.3.4 and 18.6.1
Different CN algos act differently on those, but the difference is very slight, so only if you are min/maxing a rig for specific algo - it's worth testing, otherwise just pick any of them

Blockchain are outdated and pointless, unless you use a specific miner that has kernel compiled for it, like MkxMiner for lyra2v2, but even then, lyclMiner is significantly better.