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You have any method to share for win against the house?


What is the best way for bet and win against the house???

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There is none! If you gamble be prepared to lose since it is inevitable that you will experience losses on gambling. You can never always win in gambling, it's statistically impossible to win every game. You will soon realize this, even if you use the martin gale or whatever derivative of it or any elaborate gambling strategy the smartest gambler can devise, there is no way it would win against a casino or gambling game with a house edge.

When people say the saying the house always wins they are referring to The house edge. Some games have a little, one being European roulette and some games have alot like slots. The point is that all games have a house Edge and there’s just no way around it. I would recommend switching over to poker.

If there is any take home from what happen in the case of MoneyPot, is that the house does not always win. It further establish that the rhythm is just a myth that have gone on for far too long that we have now taken to be the standard and we have been proven wrong.

If a site is completely truthful(100%), winning against the House should not even be a problem because its going to be on the basis of probability and outcomes but the moment they tweak a little, we then start looking for strategies. In short there is no one blanket way to win because I have a feeling the sites around would have their own unique way of ensuring that they are on the winning side and what works in a particular site might prove to be futile in another.

There is no "best way" to win against the house and as long as there is house edge (obviously in favor of the house) you will eventually lose unless you are extremely lucky. Even a 1% house edge can still kill you, imagine you wagered 1,000BTC in a dice site with 1% house edge, you technically already lose 10BTC (1%) by betting alone assuming you have 100% luck

The best way is to avoid gambling then you win to save your money and house also will not make any profit.

As others already told you there is no way you can win money from these games. These games are designed to give you thrill and excitement, not money. If your looking for making money then gambling is not the place for you.


In poker game also you need to be lucky to win all your games another wise no.

The only way to win against the house apart from pure chance is to rig the odds in your favor somehow. That means finding a hole in their betting engine, or whatever it is called, and exploit it to your advantage. Otherwise you are going to lose eventually. That is why you should gamble only for enjoyment of it and with the money you can afford to lose, or give away if you don't quite like the word lose. On the flip side, though, you don't necessarily have to play against the house. You can play with the house by investing in its bankroll if the house offers such a possibility.

The house always win, because people who gamble will not stop gambling. They can win $1 000 000 and then just gamble

more on each bet and eventually they will lose it all again. Most gamblers will do it for the entertainment and some of them

might just be lucky enough to walk away with some profits. The rest will continue gambling and over time their losses will be

bigger than their winnings. This is why they say, "The House always Win"  :(

There is one trick but there is no proven method that will enable us to win every time we play gambling games.  The trick is quitting when you are winning.  Though the idea of house always winning is a flawed.  You can testify on it by playing the game.  You can win sometimes but house wins more :).  Unless you quit while you are winning, it is hard for you to win against the house in the long run.

for short term i think no! but for long term, yeah house always win lol

It can be mathematically proven, with a greater than zero house edge (even 0,1% or less), you'll lose more than you'll win in the long term, whatever the strategy.
Best is not to play at all, or play safe and small amounts, stop after a few wins.

That’s right! The House doesn’t always win because of what you said.


There is no method. Pelayos’ brothers found a way to beat the house because they realized there were some imperfections in physical roullettes, but that method is not available any more, as I explained here:



No poker players win all the games. If we talk about cash, what winner poker players do is to make more money from their opponents when they have winning hands and lose less money than their opponents when they have losing hands, apart form knowing when to bluff, at the right spots. If we talk about Sit and Goes or MTT tournaments, winner players are far from winning all the tournaments, they just get in prize positions more than the average.

Be a smart gambler. Don't use same strategy all night long. When you are playing autobet just play for about 10-20 minutes then change side or change your payouts. If you already won, stop and back again the next day. Don't be greedy.

The reason the house always wins is because people are always thinking of ways to outsmart the house like this thread and they will end up losing.

Basically the house wins in 2 ways. First one is the house edge which is always geared towards the casino. Some games like slots have a crazy high house edge.

Second is basically emotion. Someone lost $50, they will keep gambling until break-even and will lose another $50.

Nothing like out smart but these game results are based on luck or which we can't predict every time correctly that why the more you play these game the more losses people can get. Anything guessing can become correct only few times but not always so if players play every day the lose more than winning.

In actual many tricks and stretagy are available in Google to beat the Gambling game of casino sites but in actual fact the script of the casinos are made to give limit to earnings , like after particular amount of earnings the script plays and important role and turns every bet into loss that is a type of cheating with gamlers .
Here in my suggestion best option to keep himself from such types of stupid scripted things we should make Gambling for sports games i.e sports gambling  .
Always start with small bet and after every los double your bet and after win come to small bet amount , in this way you will be able to make better earnings but with slow speed .

I do not think there is a method or tricks can beat casino house, you can win but you can not take all the money of casino, all users gives a limitation of how much you can win but after you reach that amount i do not think you can make additional income. That is business no businessman wanting to be bankrupt that is why they script is unbeaten even there is tricks shown in youtube but in the long run system will detect it and it will no longer profitable.

i believe the house will always win although how many times do you attempt to beat them and in my view when you starting gamble then just play normal as usual and never have an ambition to beat the house because if your gambling purposse is to beat the house then i think it's useless because whatever the methods would you use to beat them then eventually you will losing your money too

There is no any strategy that will increase your chance of winning in gambling, it is purely based on luck. If you are not lucky enough than you can't win anything also you have to play in probably fair casino so that casino can't cheat you.

Playing on casino with very low house edge can also increase your chance of winning.

If a certain person do have that kind of method i doubt that he would easily share it on public for sure but well talking realistic and the truth on here which those things you do ask for is not really existing at all come to think off that house do always win in the end and beating it would really be impossible specially when you do play prolong on it.This is why its really important for us to treat gambling as an entertainment not a main source of income.

That's the reason why there's a lots of casino gambling as the chances of the house to win over the players is much bigger, as time goes by inside the house people start changing their attitude and start becoming so aggressive, and that's the perfect timing for the house to take advantage, losing streak will start to show up and not thinking much will let us suffer.

If there was some way that would have enabled us to win against the house then no gambling houses would have existed at all.
Even if you martingale with 1000BTC with 1satoshi as your base bet, chances are that you'll get busted sometime.

Gambling is all luck and almost no skills. The only skill involved is controlling your want for winning more. This skill will at least let you go away with some "profit" while gambling.

The number of casinos are also increasing because of the people interest. Although the house always have the edge and they mostly win, but still the number of gamblers are increasing from time to time. In fact bitcoin and internet made it more easy for the people to play gambling more easily and that is the reason that it is attracting the attention of the people and making people more willing to play gambling. To me i think the unemployment and low income can also be another reason for increasing the number of gambler and their interest in gambling. People consider gambling as the shortest way of making money but it is also a fact that gambling is too much risky as compare to trading and other means of earning money.

But isn't it the same with casinos? They have an advantage called house edge which lets them win more often than not and thus get the upper hand over gamblers in the end. But they don't have to win every spin or roll. In case of poker, some skilled and experienced players have this edge which lets them win more games and thus take money from their opponents. The same with trading, you don't have to make only profitable trades, it is a net result that ultimately counts.

No one can win over the house, great luck requires to defeat it.

I heard a lot of methods here how to defeat house but no method that actually can gives you a good result. If you test them expect that you will just lose your bitcoin for nothing.. So if you are planning to gamble just gamble that you can afford to lose and gamble only for fun..
That is why they choose gambling business because they know that house is always win..

I hate to say it my friend but there is a reason why there is that saying " the house always wins ". Now let us use Las Vegas casinos for example.  They want to keep people as returning customers.  So the house will have a edge of like 1 percent or something like that. Yes that means they pay out but they are still making a bit of profit. I personally try to avoid anything that gives the house more the 3 percent winning edge.

The house ALWAYS wins.
Maybe you'll have a chance short term.
But in the long, nah bro  ;D ;D

well i dont have alot experience in gambling, but i think yes...if u greed and cant stop playing...my advice, u just need set limit gambling, limit loss, and limit win :)

The house always wins... Except when it doesn't.... Most of the time the house will win because people don't know when to stop and keep playing until they have nothing left to okay with. Some people who win big stop playing and those are the times the house doesn't win. It's all about the house edge also inow as house advantage.

If you want to make profits rather invest in a casino like Yolodice.

If there is a way to always win against the house, someone may have posted it here already but unfortunately theres no such way to always win and beat the house. Even if you change the chances of winning to your advantage lets say 90% chance of winning, you still need to beat the house which is sometimes harder than we can imagine.

Gambling will not assure you of winnings regardless if the site has house edge or not it is because no matter what we do there is always an option of winning and losing in every game what will only matter is how good you play and how lucky you are to win it. Though it is really obvious that house always win because of the attitude the player has they don't get contented and always looking forward on the chance that they will get the highest price without even noticing they been wasting too much.

No method works when house has the edge or try your best finally casinos only will be making money. And it's very common as well as they are in business to make money and not to keep giving money by other winning the games . It's upto us to understand this and play logically and not to play for financially.

There is no particular way to win against the house or else you want to rig the game.
But know that, there are huge consequences when caught because no casinos wants to lose.
That is why, most times, I tell people, 'if you are not good at gambling don't waste your money on it. Cause you will always end up dashing many casinos your hard earned money.'
To gamble requires skills, tactics, logic and calculations.
One needs to put this in mind before playing or even before putting your money in it.
That is why gambling is considered the shortest and fastest  way to increase your money and also the fastest way to loss your money.

It is because these games to win you should be lucky and we can't be lucky every day to win and that's why if we play more then our chances of losing will be high and the house is going to win.

Yes, we should set a limit for both wins and losses if you want either to reduce your losses or to win some money only sometimes. If not, we may end gambling only after losing all our bankroll.

Gambling mean some time win and other loss not all time win !only cheaters win all time!

you must learn from loss . if you lucky will earn in most time 

I guess you are right for most of cases, but there definitely are those famous people who mostly win in gambling. Especially if we talk about poker, there are Antonio Esfandiari and Daniel Colman, for instance. Such people prove that actually it's possible to keep calm and earn money this way.
I don't think it's about luck. Luck is too random. Everyone has some ups and downs. I think the only chance to win is if you play a skill-based game and are not addictive to gambling in general.
I have been gambling on meckabit, which is a website with stock market simulation. So far I have 4x profit. Yet I haven't played a lot, so maybe I'll lose eventually, but I do my best not to play a lot and be very attentive about the moves and stakes I make.

My strategy is to place the lowest number of bets possible. Because if the number of bets increase, then the probability of winning will be close to (50% minus house advantage). On the other hand, if the number of bets are low, then there are still chances that you may emerge as the lucky guy and walk away with a significant jackpot.

The possibility of winning from gambling is kind of low but it is possible, always  gamble  in short term, in long term your chances will become lower, and set the limit of your  winning and losing and stop when you reach your limit , the most important is don't become greedy and when you lose never think of bet bigger to regain your lost

I may say that gambling site are develop in favors of the owner so even there are people who experience winning on it still majority of earnings goes to the house as much as we learn any technique in gambling I'm pretty sure in  the end the site will collect all our money. But we can still try and hope that our luck is good enough to defeat whatever house edge the gambling has.

Luck will served a big role when playing gambling, as we knew it that this type of activity always risk our money, without luck we can
all say that house always wins and no question on that, we already face those defeats from the time we played gambling.

Luck always really matter but I'm always preferring with the saying if it's yours it's yours if it's not then it's not, I gamble for how many times, it always keeps me alive when there is a moment that I'm gonna take all but in the long run I found myself, I have  many losses than winning, and then realization comes if you HODL all you have, then you will not regret everything.
the creepy/funny House.

It is known that the house all ways wins so this is a given when you start out gambling. Just know this ahead of time is all you need to keep in mind at all times. ;)
Well of course statistically the odds are in the owner of the site's favor.
Or else they wouldn't have started a site in the first place.
You think they want to create a site so they would be getting poorer by running it?
The site to manage and maintain takes quite a bit of money to start off in the first place.
So they have to have available funds to begin one and a bank roll to pay the winners out.

Yes that is true, in the ens house is always winning but there is a thing when you will win some from what you spent or at least it will really helpful when you are lucky enough. But mostly people are trying to get back all his loss which lead them to greediness and then they suffer more from what they loss. This is a business industry, so what do you expect from such industry?

I think all of the online casinos are designed for gamblers to lose. I don't you can win a house through gambling. Even if you win because of greediness you will still end up losing. Try other ways.

Thats the answer i think. You write it well.

House always wins if you play for a long session. The best method to win from Casino/gambling is hit and run. Make all in or big bets and then run with the winning money. Or martingale for 20 bet max.

The pro rules is don't play long for a long time always try to make huge bets and then run with winnings.Also it depends which games you're playing. Dice sites have 1% house edge and other casino sites have up to 5% house edge on games like roulette. I saw people who plays for a long time always ended up with losing so my method is make 5 bets on dice take a break with your winnings then come again late.

No rules works while gambling !

There is only a small chance to beat the house, players always lose in the long run of playing. I tried so many techniques, at first you will have profit but if greediness comes you will lose at the end :D This is how gambling works.

Yes this is true. Its also true for other games also, even the state lottery.

You don't believe how many people I know that play the lottery every week. Normally when they go grocery shopping they play the lottery. When they win like $50 or $100 instead of spending that money on groceries they basically buy like 50x more tickets and each of those tickets ends up being a loss.

And they repeat this process over and over again. Hence unless someone actually wins the powerball and gets like a million dollars, most of the lottery players are sitting at a negative profit.

Even some of the millionaires end up losing everything due to bad investment decisions.

House win in long term..
If you are lucky, you can win in short term ;D

This is right on the spot, an individual person may get lucky from time to time and get a winnings every now and then  but in the end of the day there are more losers than winners because the odds always favor the house.

If you play skill based games like sport betting or poker and you are good, you can win long term even though the house takes a small fee for its service and this scenario is a win - win situation. If you play luckgames, there is honestly no winning strategy against the house, even though some experts claim that they know how to beat the house edge.

Only luck can tell you, if you want to gamble but you don't want to lose don't bet just use a free money. Some website theres a free faucet that you can use to play.

There is no method to win against the house, just keep on mind that playing in a site for too long will make you lose everything, If you want to win in a site do what some whales do, deposit a big amount, yolo bet for a short duration of time and once you won a big amount, withdraw and have fun with your winnings and just go back to that site whenever you want to play again. I've seen a whale in one gambling site that was he do last time he won 15BTC and he just left the casino with those big winnings.

It's hard to always win againsts the house when gambling you just need to be really lucky. Martingale somehow can be a great tool but off course if your really want to win most of the time you need to have a really huge bankroll enough to endure a long losing streak then apply the martingale method maybe 1000btc for base bet of 1sats in 49% odds but off course that won't make sense.

I think yes house always win no one can beat them specially in the long run of playing in their site, i do not think if their site have a script to limit winning rate of one player but i feel like that is true. That is why i only do gambling in the way of betting in nba it is not base on the house edge it will pure base on luck of bettors.

I'm nit sure if that's already been proven but you are correct in a long term playing house will win and no question about that, house edge will start
killing our bankroll and each time we seen losing streak we will be more aggressive to win back, resulting to much worse decisions, we cant win with
house that's why there's a lots of new site open from time to time.

No strategy will win against the house on a numbers game. I mean, if you do win in number of times then you must stop yourself betting again. It is our thirst or greedy instinct that take us in losing because we always think about “what if?” unsatisfactory of one’s earning. This is just what I have done and learned from it thru experience itself.

I do believe the same thing which theres really a possibility that they would really limit winnings but still it havent been proved yet.House edge would really be the main thing why we do lose up on long term and if we are lucky enough we can somehow make winnings but it wont really be permanent. Sooner or later you would really be busted by the house and even lose more if we try to chase loses.

I don't think that there is one way to avoid gambling, especially for people who have been used to it and has made a part of their daily lives. Also, gambling has this addictive effect that may entice a person to keep on playing even if they win or lose. When a person keeps winning, he would want to play more to extend and make his winnings bigger. On the other hand, when a person loses, they would want to play more to get their loses back. In whichever case, the house wins because they have passively convinced people to play more which adds more profit in their books. Most people don't realize that even if some people may win, a handful more would lose day in and day out. I think the better way to win is to not gamble at all.

Having a house edge is one way of those casinos to maintain income to support the winnings of a lot of people who play gambling on their site and I don't think there is any way to win against house edge its only a matter of luck that a person has to win gambling do regardless of any technique when you do gambling there is always a chance that you either win or get loss.

You mean to say all casinos are cheating gamblers?

If you think like that then answer is NO because all reputed sites will provide you with an option to verify all your bets whether those bets are fair or not. Since these games results, we can't guess and it depends on luck so you can't win always but may win sometimes. That's you may feel that these casinos are cheating you.

This is not true that "the house always wins."  The house tends to beat out bad players, but not those who find value in bets. 

Knowing the game very well and having a strategy to adjust to the house moves will help you beat them in the most possible ocasions, there are professional gambles who make profit from playing and extracting the maximum value out of their moves, but this is not just gambling for fun of course

I think you will never win in gambling. Example you win 1 btc one time, not knowing you have lost more than that before you win.

It's gambling... All you need to win againts the house is luck  Any strategies wont work bcause the house always comes out the winner in the end. house or casino is a business not a charitable organization throwing free money away. it has a business model in place designed to ensure its profitability. If you want to win agints house, you should run away when you in and never come back. I have seen many people on some casino has green profit then leave and never cme back. You shuld try to "hit and run" to make profit, but if you don't hit or win at beggining, you shpuld stop playing or just play to enjoy their game.

There are games without house edge. For example ROULETTE WITH INCREASED PAYOUT 36:1. You can play 50:50 and not to lose for a long time.

Read the rules:

"Payout for the straight-up bet to number is increased to 36 : 1.

This type of roulette was intended as a game with decreased house edge. And really, when playing betting to the numbers only, the casino does not have an advantage before the player. You can easily check it but covering all numbers on the table. To place the bets on each number you will need 37 chips. One bet wins. Win for the straight-up bet to number will be 36 chips plus return of a winning chip. And after the spin you will have the same 37 chips. And though in practice a player bets only on some numbers on the table, this example can show that you can play roulette with increased payout no matter how long, theoretically without losing a cent.

Minimum bet on the table (inside and outside bets) - 0,1 xBTC.
Maximum bet is given in the table below.

After closing the table independent of the result of the game, all cash from roulette table go to the player’s account without charging additional percents."
https://profit-bitcoin.com/?roulette-casino.html

There is still a cut for the casino owners in every game they have. Don't believe on those rules.

There are some strategy or method that can work for a short time but is fatal in the long run. such strategy is using martingale and when you won afer series of loses.  This will get your lost fund plus extra for winning and you must quit and go home.  In this case you won against the house.  But if you push your luck and keep on playing, you will lose definitely.

The problem with gamblers is there's no such thing as enough win for them. That is why they all end up losing more money than winning.

The best and only way to beat the house is having an infinite balance. In this situation you can use a simple martingale strategy. Isn't it easy?  ::)

You can test this rules, read the promo:
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No, because every casino has a maximum bet/win amount. If you reach this limit without winning, you won't be able to increase your bet to cover previous losses.

Maybe this man didnt experience to reach out maximum bet/win thing or just didnt able to read out the common rules of a certain gambling site related on this matter. They do really have max bet and max winning amount which is a normal thing for them to implement because if they dont then it would really hurt them or make them bankrupt if theres a lucky person would able to win some huge amount.This is why limits would really be there.

Well, in long run hose  will always will win because of H.E. And you can do nothing with that because of Math probability.

nobody can win against the house of casino or gambling, because i think the bankers of the house are have set a limitation how much money give into the selected player for the winning bet, always i suggest play gambling for fun and set also a limitation for yourself to avoid loses.

Yet we all continue to pump our money in the house usually does win however if you know when to cash out and not get greedy you can make a good profit but it's easier said than done

The house always has an edge value which serves to be the profit. Some gamblers play with some techniques to overcome the edge value and get profited. In most of the events the house will be winning and the same is not because of the house edge, but that is how it happens with gambling.

Bang on! No, it's not.

If you had infinite money you would be risking it to earn just the initial amount you were trying to win.

If you play black or red and your initial bet is $1, and lose, you would need to double your bet infinite times to earn just $1 (a little bit less actually). I’ve explained this ad nauseam on this forum.

Too much risk for such a low reward.

He was just illustrating how a martin gale system would actually work and win against the house. Generally the house always wins due to the house edge, and the fact is that you have a slight better chance to losing, but that is something enormous statistically. An infinite amount of money will ensure that even if you lost 1,000,000 times and won on the 1,000,001st bet you will have money to bet with. Of course if you have infinite money then you don't really need to gamble, this is just all for illustration.

The concept is simple. If you play 100 times on a 50-50 chance game. Your chance of winning is 50/100 times. but with the house edge element involved, depending on the percentage, you are allowed to win 45-50 times out of 100 chances. It will happen, whatever be your strategy. The odds will always favor the house giving them the "edge". So, you can only win if you are lucky and you quit after winning. In a long run, the odds that you come out as victor is slim to none.

All strategies that you know can applied since after all, all bets will faced the provably fair. So what's the best? None. If you won, you are lucky. That's how house edge gambling games works. If you don't understand what house edge means then take some time learning it so that you will know why majority of your responses here saying that there is no way you can beat the house.

Better try your luck on strategy based games such as sports betting.

Do you think there is no house edge in sports betting? :)

You are correct however the problem with your example is that each bet is completely indepedent of the prior.

Assume a house edge of 0. So you are betting 50-50 and after 100 rolls you should win 50 times and lose 50 times.

Many people creature strategies such as, rolling 100 times and if they lose like 75 times out of 100, then they will bet more in the next 100 rolls.

However they don't realize that the bets are indepedant and what will happen is they will either lose again 75 times out of 100 or they will win/lose about 50/50.

I've created a similiar strategy before using Microsoft Excel and there was no full proof strategy.

If the house always win, nobody dare to gamble on that gambling site anymore. That's a logic !
Before you try to gamble , make sure that you've observer their reputation before it turn into scam !

Keep calm guys, yeah i didn't think about the max. bet but it was meant as a joke anyways. Or can you provide an infinite balance? 

Though one might be able to achieve this goal by double spending; that's probably the only chance to beat the house casino...  ::)

How can you describe this infinite balance? If only someone have that infinite balance like you said they wont keep on winning this too because on each site, they have a limit on max bet or max profit so there is no way you can keep on winning here just because you have huge bankroll. That is why big whale never do some martingale thing, I think this is the proof some big whale never do the martingale

And I was just illustrating that it wouldn’t actually work, unless you called “work” to risk an infinite balance to win just $1. That can’t be properly called “beat the house”, which he said was easy, and you seem to agree with, even for illustration purposes.

If you started betting with just $1 and kept on doubling your bet after losing, by the 50th bet you would need to put $ 562,949,953,421,312 on the table to have a net won of just $1 (if you succeeded and won that bet). Just by the 50th bet. By the 51th bet you would need to double that amount, and so on.

If you told the casino owner that you had beaten the house because you have risked an infinite amount of money and ended up having a net profit of $1 he would laugh at you. This, again, is for illustration purposes.

Martingale doesn't work, full stop.


The concept is so simple that you haven’t expressed it properly, which makes me think you haven’t understood it completely. I mean, you get the idea, and most of what you say is correct but here is the flaw:

Even if you factor in the HE element, your chances are still 50/50. So, let’s suppose you bet $100 and HE is 5%. When you lose you lose 100$ but when you win, the House pays you just $95. After an infinite amount of times (just for illustration purposes), you will still have won 50% of the times (and lost the other 50%), but you will have lost money due to being paid less when you win.

Sorry mate but it is proven that there is nothing which can defeat the house. Gambling is made to make money we play it with the risk of winning some money by investing some money but always remember that a casino has invested more money than us so you can only beat the house if you have more money than the house itself (of course why you will Gamble if you have that much money). Do not gamble to make money always gamble just for fun take it as a game not a income source.

Where did you learn this brother?  :o

You're really stupid not to know it, he's just stating something quite obvious. Statistically if you use a 50% chances of winning that would mean in sample of 1,000,000 bets, that would mean you will likely win 500,000 times and you will also likely lose 500,000 times. However since there is a house edge that means you would win (based from the example of 5% and at a bet of $1 per bet) $475,000 and you would have lost $500,000. Which means you lost $25,000 in case you rolled 1,000,000 with a bet of $1 and 5% house edge.

Nah bro, it always win.
Don't forget about the house edge. They'll take something from you even if u win  ;)

Just never play off their hook you might get caught of how stupid player you are just want to waste some of your wealth, in contrast the money that get by any casino either online or not are not always get straight to their pocket they need to obey the law of having 30% or 20% something in between I not remember, to give to orphan and others. :D

Gambling is always a game of chance unless you control the games in the house of casino or create an artificial intelligence gadget to win in every game.

maybe an exception to sports betting but the odds of each match will certainly be more profitable to the house, example for soccer betting, when barcelona vs small team, of course odds to choose barcelona win, will be very small probably around 1.01-1.05 and although the house is losing it will not be too detrimental to them because odds are so small. you know what i mean right?

for me it depend on what are you gambling because for example, betting/gambling on eSports, normal sports (tennis, football and so on) are quite different than casino, roulettes and dice games.
The house always win because in long term, even if you play the double amount game you won't be able to continue forever (limited amount of money).. and thinking about Las Vegas, if the house wouldn't "always" win, there would be less and less casino around.

This one guy gets it. Yeah i'm illustrating; do we really have to discuss the neccesarity of gambling when one has an (obviously theoretically) infinite balance?

Oh and the other guy, let me bust you. I don't start with a bet of 1$, i start with 1,000,000$ and martingale from there. Is it now worth?  ;D
And please don't come along again with the max bet, we get it! It's all just fun and theory  ;D


... just to be clear. No, you can't beat the house no matter what you do. Yes you will always lose in the long term.

Quit when you're on profit ;p

There is a very slim chances to win against the house, the house edge always win and always make profit. You can beat the house but not in the long run you can beat it momentarily. If playing in the house has a loopholes then there's no doubt that many casino's will shut down if proven they can be beaten. there is no way you can win the house.just play what you can afford to lose, just play if for fun and for profit.

The house made their system to always takes advantage to its player. There is no way you can win from them. Even if you say you have win big, later on realized you have lost a lot.

IF there is no cheat inside house there is also possiblity to win may be 12,5 means 1 of 8 play.
So if it is 50% win 50% loose game, than you can bet  1 , 2 , 4 , 8 ,16 , 32 , 64 ,128 USD and at least in worst case of this probablity you won 1 USD

Have you pointed what base capital it is needed just to make a 1 usd profit? I still don't agree you can win against the house. With or without strategy it is impossible.

This is called martingale, a variety thereof.

And no, it doesn't work either. In fact, there is nothing extraordinary in hitting even 20 losses in a row at 50% probability. Sooner or later you will encounter this sequence of bad outcomes, and that would most definitely mean your account wiped away. In most cases, you won't have to make it that far simply because the majority of dice casinos won't let you start with just 1 satoshi.

Martingale will not work because every casino has there own max bet and max won limit so even if you have unlimited funds you will still have max bet and the chance of getting straight losing streak is a lot especially if you bet with pattern. House always wins if you play for too long but if you won and leave the site then you won against the house. But if you won and you stayed to win more then most likely you will end up nothing.

The golden rule of gambling is that 'there is no golden rule', but here are some tested and verified tips;

1. Use a Simple Bucket Budget to Manage Your Money.
2. Look for Smaller Jackpots.
3. Make Smaller Bets.
4. Play the Short Odds, Not the Long Odds.
6. Stay with Pass or Don’t Pass in Craps.
7. Only Play Outside Bets in Roulette.
8. Read the Fine Print.
9. Use Time Management and Money Management Systems.
10. In Blackjack, Be Prepared to Split.

What if you never get profit? Means you start losing from the beginning then would you like to gamble until you lose all your money?

I think you also should set a limit to your losses not only just for your profit because you can't expect every time you gamble will get a chance to make a profit to stop.

The best way to bet and win in any gambling site is for you to wish that lady luck is standing right before you, winning against the house is almost impossible but you still have a 50% chance to win, dont trust the martingale method it doesnt work as others claim.

When you start any gambling adventure you should always have the mindset of i have no bitcoin. If you do manage to get some wins then give lady luck a kiss and take some profits. Hopefully what you take out will be more than what you startrd out with. Never try to keep that mindset that you will break the bank. Casinos are businesses that have to win at times in order to cover the bankroll costs. Also think of vegas if you do start winning alot they can kick you out.

Depending on the game, or the house edge, but in long term yes... the house is who get the money among all the players.

So you are referring of what you say like doing martingale strategy, but instead of doing that, I would say not everyone have good balance to start martingale thing and anyway there is always limit on each site so in a long term if you past their limit then you will lose for sure. It is not really effective when you bet on huge amount. May be for small it will still be good because you still can manage it well with some balance

It's a must to always be very wise, casino houses will not allow any easy wins they are just giving you a glimpse where you will think that you can
win against you making you more engaged and get addicted.

In the long run it's the casino that wins, as much as the edge is multiplied per the amount of money that is bet. The only way to have a positive expected returns in a casino is by investing in it (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2635712.msg26817368#msg26817368).

Couldn't agree more!  Am a mathematician and on the basis of a truly provably fair site certainly not the knock-on-the-door-first, before you can see being paraded by most games sites, then Probability and Statistics becomes good enough to stand up to the house edge of a number of games. The myth that the house always win must have emanated from Albert Einstein's postulate that the only way to win a game of roulette would be to steal from it when the dealer isn't looking! 

Hard to fault that because of the persona of Einstein, but didn't Dalton's atomic theory also assert that, an atom was the smallest indivisible particle? Obviously Einstein though instrumental to the technologies that culminated  in the invention of computers, but he never envisaged its potentials and what powerful utilities it can afford a human. I must say, the greatest house edge any game site parades is not entirely in their odds, but their seeming unlimited bankroll as against the meagre most players are having to go to battle with.

What a terrible advice.
As already thousand times said, martingale is the worst strategy ever and it will lead you to loss.
Probably investors ;D

So, what's the point of your post? You sound like you know something which could help us beat the house, but you don't tell us any specifics about how we could really do that. The consensus has it there is no other way apart from pure luck, and that pretty much sums it up. Empty words aside, how can we beat the house edge after all and how can Probability and Statistics actually help us withstand the fatality and deadliness of it?

If some one could discover any method to beat the house edge then that theory will be one of the greatest invention till now. The artificial intelligence have already get too far but the fact is house edge has not been bitten by any theory or intelligence. One need luck and patient to win.

The thing is, how far will you go? What's your limit? I mean, if you quit on profit, you have beaten the house. Or am I wrong?
Of course in the long run you will end up broke eventually if you don't set limits and if you never withdraw your winnings. Why? That's just how it works, nothing lasts forever. Enjoy while it lasts. The moment you win, buy yourself something good with your profit, make sure you have fun and enjoy gambling.

The house edge on casino exists for a very important reason, it is to ensure gamblers who gamble on the casino stands a higher chance to lose against the casino in the long run, due to greed, a lot of gamblers usually do not stop wagering in time and thus most of their profits will be gone again.

I agree with you. I have tried the martingale method, and lost money in it (multiple times). I have tried a lot many methods, but none of them seems to be successful. Everything depends on your luck. After taking in to account the house edge, you may be having a 45% to 49% chance for a win. Just place your bets hoping for the best.

House edge would really vary on your winning rate but majorly luck would be the main reason for us to be profitable in the end of the day.Gamblers do always make their own strategies on doing gambling  on daily basis but the most common way being used is martingale but same as being said this wont work anytime if we arent luck enough.If you did put up money on a certain bet and ready to roll and cross fingers already.

Can't think of any way to win against, maybe even if you have luck. Just try this: bet low and win low. Still counts as win right?

Gambling is nothing but checking your luck so whether house edge is there are not if you play more and more still you can lose your money in gambling because you may not be lucky every time and every day. So we should gamble only to enjoy those games for some time, not every day because it may lead to addiction to these games.

The house will always win...that's we're it was design to be profitable in the first place. You can't see a casino was close due to bankruptcy.
If you will won against the house (i mean all night winner), you are the smartest human to crack the code.
People come to casino for pleasure and entertainment or to have a status symbol in the society that they are in the elite status.
You have a chance to win and you will win a few and lose more. In the end the house will always win.

That's why you should stop gambling and take out all your profits before its back to the house, the house is not always win if you know how to do it.

Martingale is a slow but certain killer and a player would be just lucky to get anywhere with it. Reasons abound why it is not a strategy for use in betting one's house ane is the fact that one shall be needing to have unlimited funds to be able have the strategy work effective and the guts to go the distance and I doubt how many players can fulfill all that. More over, Martingale is a very popular strategy and you can't give it pass some crook sites to anticipate a player's Achilles.

When working with binaries that randomly run any secret strategy or technique to win and fail, because the system never repeats the pattern, but many people still insist on finding alternatives to the vitoras and most of the time they fail grossly. Of course, if the house was to lose, there would be no bookmakers (the name is already suggestive "gambling") so rarely anyone can win anything by betting on games like that.

Im agree with this opinion!

There's no way you can beat the house.

You can only enjoy your current "luck" and leave, while you win and the house "gives".

Because then it will start to "take"  :)

Too true, there is really nothing that anyone can do with house edge. The amount may be small like 1% but really that is a big factor. 49.5% win rate to double your bet doesn't look too bad but that is a big disadvantage to the gamblers. It is something really big in the long run since statistically it means it would result to a negative expected value.

It would be impossible.
Give up  ;)

Yeah right, the house and the house alone is the sure winner in gambling. It wins all and takes all. Leaving a gambler empty handed. First bet you will be win then when feel the feeling of eagerness to win again thats the time your luck will turn upside down. You wont leave the house unless your pocket is empty. Gambling as recreation is sometimes considered good past time if you can handle it well and not be drowned with it.

Home always wins ... how to play and always win, is there any clue? Very interesting I guess I like this where I will win in some obstacles. . In a day I can generate many btc coins, of course I will get a lot coin btc.

Stay at home, I like what else I always win. This is the right way to increase the balance of our btc deposit because we believe we will always win, this is a nice house and very good for all of us who want to add btc money collection.

I will take this opportunity and I will not stay.

As many have already stated, it comes down to luck. It's up to you when you cash out.

i think there is no way, i loose every time and they win
and if i win i withdraw all of my money in 1 minute

True this will be the center of attention. Where to continue to get our chance to win and our future can be changed to be more beautiful ..

Playing at home without you realize you can add as little bitcoin currency balance as possible, and continue to add balance your savings every day, because you have definitely every play will be always win and never fail.

We will get a lot of BTC in a very fast time, the more enjoy the game the more unpresented how much digital currency we produce at home. Currency collection BTC multiply and you can use the digital money very well.

I think there is not always lose thing in gambling, it dependa on your luck as well, but mostly in the end you will lose it because there is some house edge, lets say it is 1% as usual dice site so you will get around 99% of your bankroll here. But when you are lucky enough, you might turn your bankroll into unlimited number here, dependa on how lucky you are. Mostly people will be greedy and turn them out to lose everything in just a split second

But most of the time that luck never showed up putting your money at risk and always making us thinks that the house always wins,
in reality there's some chances that we are able to earn from this activity only if we can really manage our self very well, learning how
to control emotions and letting your mind free of aggressiveness and greediness, that's the only way where we can win against the odds.

We can really assume that we are on winning side but to consider it is just good for one day profit but if you do sum up on all the money you do lost up on playing gambling then it wont really be an equal thing for sure. There are some people who are on positive side but i strongly believe that most people are on negative. House do always win thats why they do build up these kind of business because it is profitable most of the time but yet there are really instances that house can be beaten up but on rare cases thats why they do have set limitations.

There really is no "best" way to win against the house. You should not really think that way you should play for fun and try build up a winning streak and if it's life changing you can stop. The problem with most people is that they get to greedy and don't know when to stop. Learning when to stop is what gambling is all about. How much are you willing to lose and far are you willing to go to get the prize.

Back in 1994 a computer consultant named Daniel Corriveau here in Quebec found a way to crack the Keno game at the Montreal casino using the chaos theory.

I don't remember the exact principle but in the end it was a relatively simple twist where Corriveau noticed that the same series of "random numbers"/outputs were constantly repeated, thus predictable.

Good luck ;)

I took a look just for kicks and saw that there is a section in the Montreal Casino Wiki about it called "Keno Scandal".

There you go, it says :

"In April 1994, Daniel Corriveau won $600,000 CAD playing keno. He picked 19 of the 20 winning numbers three times in a row. Corriveau claims he used a computer to discern a pattern in the sequence of numbers, based on chaos theory. However, it was later found that the sequence was easy to predict because the casino was using an inadequate electronic pseudorandom number generator. In fact, the keno machine was reset every morning with the same seed number, resulting in the same sequence of numbers being generated. Corriveau received his winnings after investigators cleared him of any wrongdoing."

Source : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreal_Casino

It should be expected that such winners would claim any bullshit whenever they make impossible wins. That it was sheer luck, lunar phases, solar eclipses, some obscure chaos theory, whatever, while they just found a way to milk the casino due to some inadequacy in the whole thing. I remember stories about people winning at roulette tables due to a slight tilt of the wheel when you just bend somewhere in the room, so the roulette ball fell off the ball track into certain pockets on the wheel more frequently than others.

I don't think you lose everytime you roll or play any games because we all win few times but we are not satisfied with the small amount so continue gambling for more profits until we lose the bankroll again. That's why you should have reasonable targets for your wins then you may win sometimes not every time you gamble to withdraw profits.

It’s usually like that. Small winnings don’t satisfy enough, then people go for the jackpot or higher winnings, and they usually end up losing everything. Casinos’ advertising usually focusses on the biggest prices and jackpots, so when people win a bit keep trying without realizing that they have been lucky already, and that the more they play, the more likely it is that they are going to lose everything.

You won't able to fight banks of house since them have a big capital. But you can win to against the house, how it is be work?, you just need a goals what's your kind concept about win at casino. Like double your money or somemore? If you have reach you goal, just go to withdrawal then you'll be the winner.

Easy to say but very difficult to practice, if you will just read back those replied here and see how many gamblers around here then you will be enlightened, gambling house always have edge as they can easily manipulate gamblers mindset, thinking that since they already catch some winnings then they can do it again and again, but the idea is just to let the gamblers feel that way and then after the losing will start to showed up  little by little teasing gamblers to keep trying and chasing the loses back without noticing that they already engaged and the house will win after.

The shorter you play the more chance of  you to win. House always win as they offer limited profit per bet also you have much less money than the overall house bankroll.

Very difficult indeed to resist such temptation to play even more or decide to go further.If you arent too aware on your actions then you will end up on losing no matter what. Saying that gaining profit and then leave is just easy to say but would really be hard to do when you are in the middle of the situation. House will always win and theres no doubt on that but having a control would really not put you into trouble.

one way is to target a small number then stop and start gambling in a different casino with a small target number as well.
can be said is a gambling with a short term,
because usually long-term gambling always suffered defeat,
because the longer sitting at the gambling table, the more uncontrolled emotions

Yes, the house almost always wins.  I think the actual statistic is 98% of the time, the house takes home pie  :(

The casinos don't beat the players because they get lucky, they beat the players because the odds are stacked in their favor.  This built-in advantage is called the house edge.  In numbers, it's the the casino's average profit from a player's bet.  For example, in roulette house edge is about 5%.  That means for every dollar bet, the casino keeps 5¢ as profit, and returns the other 95¢ to the players as winnings, on average. The casino doesn't have to destroy you with terrible odds -- they give you an almost even game and make just a few percent on each bet on average.

They always win but it does not mean people can't win from their site as well. They need to have overall players to lose then they will get profit but if there is only small lose but there is only 1 big players winning, I do not think that it will make them happy. This why you need to control yourselves by having some small winning instead of big losing. Slowly win everytime will be good rather than losing one time for big amount

We are infact greedy and think that the house is cheating and make us loss every time. This is not the fact. Most of the time we lose is due to our mismanagement and greediness.

It is not about greed or even a chance to win sometimes. The fact is that house edge is about %1 in dice games and A LOT higher in casino games specially brick and mortar ones. Hence, if you play even an hour there is a good chance you will end up losing and nobody is going there playing 10 minutes and getting out ahead, that just doesn't worth the effort, you either go in and make one huge all in bet and leave with either profit or lost, or you just keep playing until you are bored or out of money. So, the house edge takes away any possible chance you can win money there.

Primedice has this graphic that shows how your profits look while gambling, just go there and autobet any strategy you want and you will see when you are winning you are winning a little but when you are losing couple times in a row its quite easy to lose it all.

Gambling is a luck game which give us equal amount of winning and losing chances. We will NOT AWLAYS WIN and NOT ALWAYS LOSS.
The Win and loss will come side by side, it is our technique and strategy due to which we make more in wining and less in losing.

I do not know the exact statistics but for sure house has to win majority of the times so that they can make money and give some to the participants  else they are not here for charity and this is why many people lose in gambling as not everyone can win in gambling .

Majority of users said that if the house percent is bigger , the chance of winning is less but if the house is less the chances of winning is high ( vice versa )    . well id say its not true because i believe that luck and skill are the ones that really matter   . if you are lucky and skillful , you can win but if if you only posses one of those traits then you can possibly loose  .


Yes . we humans are not contented and if something bad happen to us , we then blame anyone but its actually not their fault but ours  .   

If you don't believe that they win all the time then maybe you should try it yourself.

The house has an edge and even small edge can make us loss in the long run, that's how they run their business to be profitable, they are transparent but heir edge makes their profitable.You might be lucky or has the skills, but skills will not work in games like this, and your luck is never consistent, so it will never bring you consistent win.

The house will always win, no matter how many gamblers play in different games. We know that many gamblers have lost their money in the game, and this makes the house takes their money, and it means, the house winning the money. But we also know that some gamblers can win the money but compare with the winning of the house, it still a small percentage for them so the house will let some gamblers to win.

It is not true that the House always wins. For sure they need to make a profit so many people end up losing because the bigger the chances are with the house. However, people can still win. There is a theory that you can maximize your earnings by play just once all the money you have accumulated for gambling. The reason of this is that you have bigger possibilities of winning and also if you win your profit will be the most.

People don't want to risk all their money in the first hand. Thus, they place small bets that they end up making them lose all their funds. This is why the myth is created that House always wins.

Yeah! I believe in that too. You will notice that the house always win in a game. They are the ones who control the game and you cant do anything about it. Lets say for exmple, there are three rounds of the game, you are not sure if you win all the rounds but the house has all the percentage of winning.

You can also see my thread with this link about this one.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5088278.msg48816442#msg48816442

Lol thats why gambling is the most profitable business that existing in this world because of continuously winning of the house,theres only 20-30% of gamblers winning rate while the 70-80% becomes a loser everyday

Yes it is quite true. When someone opens up shop as a new casino they calculate the house edge and decide how much it will be. A casino that relies only on games of luck may result into failure because people may lose money and decide to not play anymore in these kind of games.

That is why it is best to offer a mixture of games, luck games which guarantees the long term profit for the casino but also games where skill is involved so players don't quit playing easily. The house always wins, remember that in order to play only what you can afford to lose and to not become addicted.

The method that seems to be easy to apply against home is experience, when you have experience then at least you have good emotional control while playing. Because the loss that usually occurs when going against the house is being unable to control yourself and constantly betting even though it's impossible to turn things around, if you have experience it's likely you have a good time to play, because not all day is the right time to bet against the house.

There seems to be no effective way to beat a house, because the house always wins. Gambling is a business so it won't let gamblers win every game, because if it happens it will definitely suffer losses. We can win several games but overall we will definitely experience defeat. Will go bankrupt if the gambler always wins in gambling. So there will be no way to defeat the house and we have to gamble with limits.

Even expert losses once in a while, most of us believes that house always have its advantage and there's no way that we can continue winning against owners who knows how to play well with gamblers emotions, as they can give attracting offers and let the gamblers keep visiting and playing and in the long process gamblers will ends up nothing but burned their money.

As you can see , gambling always make you loss eventually because of their house edge and other gambling owner's advantage.
But why people still interest or like gambling ?
Because it's human nature called greed, people always want to be like Dan Bilzerian !

I don't think it's green alone, because without love on what you are doing, you'll not be able to focus on it.
Being greedy should not be applied in gambling as we all know that our chance is absolutely lower compared to the house, so we should also make the right action in order to enjoy if we in or loss. Behaving the right thing is very important, you can also make money but you need to make it a long term goal.

There are games that we can used our skills but we are the only one who can prove also if we are really successful.

 I did tried alot of gambling sites with a higher house edge but i still manage to won from the majority of my bets  .  house arent an indication if a gambling site is difficult to beat or not  because like me , you can always win as long as you try and keep trying  .


Its because gambling isnt about profit or about loosing .  gambling can also provide you a happiness that you cant find anywhere .   in my case i continue to gamble because i know how to beat the house  .


Not all are greedy .  most humans are actually already contented and happy on what they got because they know that being greedy is bad  and can give you a bad luck or a karma  .   and who is dan bilzerian by the way ?  

This term "the house always wins" simply means that it is a business whose purpose is to profit to remain open. That is, they will only offer games and opportunities that prove statistically favorable in the long run. But of course, individuals can always make a profit and become very wealthy if they know when to stop.

There are several attractions so that every gambler doesn't move when they get a bet. Every gambler only focuses on the gamble/game he does, not to thinking about what will happens if he continues to win every game and then he leaves because he wants to make the house go bankrupt. However, this is only a way for everyone to get gambling, actually no one is harmed just depends on someone's attitude. They are free to choose gambling and misery because they cannot regulate their passions when they gamble.

probably in a group of player's there's only one can get win, but nothing can bet against the house that's is impossible group of player can get win against the house i think the casino or gambling house if this scenario always the house big possible to become bankrupt.
But since was playing gamble i can't heard news or even history can bet against the house we need to accept no ones can get win against the house of gamblng

There are no experts in gambling. Actually the only expert there is the house. That's why the house always wins in the long term.

If you want to stay alive, don't try to beat the house. It will fuck you up. If it was possible to beat it, the house wouldn't exist in the first place would it? There is a reason why there are certain limitations on the games. Like the max bet amount and the house edge. That's how the house keeps winning.

Playing every once in a while to see if you are lucky or not is OK. There is no harm doing it. Getting greedy is where the problems start at. The house only punishes the greedy people. If you stay cool, you won't get a kick in your face.

Gambling is one of the most profitable businesses not because of the edge but because of the repeat trade occuring.   Think about it, most companies sell a product once or twice and if doing well maybe they retail once a week this product.   However a gambling firm with good customer base will continually see trade repeat, someone was detailing how they gambled for 8 hours.     Thats what makes it profitable for the company.

The actual edge can be very low, its not the giant margin you imagine.    The vast majority of anything a person loses on a bet, is just going to pay the other side to the bet or the winners.   Theres some amount a house collects for being organiser, but also companies take a risk with it

Recently saw in a group conversation one high roller lost at least USD 8,000 in one bet and doesn't even mind at all.

The only way to beat the house is to win once if you're a newcomer and never return, but how many have the will to do so?  ;D

You can't people in many bets but it can be possible with single huge bett to be won but still risky move just to win the house.

You can't win unless you have luck and even if you can win, I am not sure you can win much money. But I agree that newcomer will have their best luck in the gambling games, but it won't always work for every newcomer. So don't even think that we can win much money from the house if we don't know when the luck arrives. But in the end, the house will get that money from all gamblers without any permission because most of them already lose the money.

But of course, you still need to spend a lot of money before you able to get that profit. Yes, the house will always win because its their job to do so and their system is in favor to them on every games they have. If more gambler will play on your casinos, the more profit you can get.

Most gamblers will continue to gamble as long as they have the money to do it. It's very rare to see people who can come out well. Only bankruptcy will force gamblers to break the habit. That is why we often see or hear bad experiences from this business. The house for sure will benefit from such behaviour.

This is true, I mean if you are going to gamble you have to be ready on what the outcome would be, its going to be pure luck if you win several games consecutively, its hard to say that you will not lose, especially if you are playing in a casino, you should be ready for the stakes and be ready to lose or to win.

You are going to lose in the long if you play a game with a house, but most of the gambler, they do not think of the long term outcome, they just gamble and hope that they are lucky and enjoy their winnings. Any games with house edge are games that should only be based on luck, don't try to make a strategy as you will only be wasting your time, no strategy would work overtime here, so just hope that you will be so lucky to bag a big amount of winnings.

Who wants to do business, which you spend a lot of capital and yet not that profitable? Of course none and that is same thing with casinos, they always win because a lot of greedy people who continue to play even at a loss, and its their target to make money. Preparation is a must, you must be ready for everything because in gambling your greatest enemy is yourself, on how you control yourself and always think that when you gamble you don’t always make profit.

I think there is no way that the house will lose. The house will win because of your emotions. There is no way that you can win against the house because your emotions make you lose. How?? If you win, you feel greedy until you lose. House won against you. Now you will feel that you want revenge and will get some money again and get the money you lost a while ago until in the end you lose again. This is a cycle that will make the house win and this tends to happen in some gamblers around there.

Not sure why most of the gamblers are like this, they tend to try defeating the house with its own rules and regulations, knowing that whatever you do or try it will always ends up losing your motions and keep suffering with the same results, when you  lose your money it will force you to try recovering back and aggressively play harder and suffer the same mistakes all over, while when you win, you will not be contented and thinks that it was your lucky day, continuing instead of enjoying your earnings, then losses back everything which includes your entire bankroll.

You are right regarding poker and maybe sports betting, but one can't be "skillful" playing dice, roulette, plinko or slots, although some people think that some "winning strategies" can be applied to those games as well. There is no working strategy for lucky based games, except for maybe money management strategy, which is very simple and widely known one, don't risk more funds than you can easily afford to lose.

Also I agree that the importance of the house edge is overestimated. Yes, HE is a factor, but in most cases people lose because of bad luck much more than they would lose solely because of the HE, and, on the other hand, sometimes they win big in games where house edge is huge.

The only methods I think that works is controlling of your emotions and not over bet.  You should know that the betting and gambling system is built to favour the house and therefore no need to know why the house do win.

Not always but it's often to win.

How to beat the house ? Become lucky enough and having some guts and finally they meet at perfect time, you can win big !
It's difficult but it's not impossible !

We don't definitely say at anytime this will be the winner of this gambling because gambling will not give few more attraction for your mind it will all about tricks and time that's why gambling will play vital role in making money more easier and also difficult.

That probability to win big in gambling is too low, and maybe you already spend a lot of money before you achieve that because the house always win. If you got lucky and win the grand prize for sure someone is suffering because they also bet on that, so it means the house still make profit on that even if they give you big money.

That is only we can do to prevent from a big loss in gambling because we never know we can win. But it would not easy to control since, in the gambling, we always hear the sound that calling us to keep playing and spend more money. The house will ever win because the system is on their side and although there is a bug or hole in the system, it will not stay for a long because the admin will fix it so no other people can cheat them.

And unfortunately that is the worst sound anyone can hear. Even if you think you have taken control over yourself and are gambling responsibly , that sound is always there and saying, why don't you try this or that strategy, no one else has tried it yet and you say to yourself why not try and that is the point where you realize that the house always wins.

I can relate as well, that particular sounds who keeps rounding inside your ears is the worst sounds every gamblers always followed, they tend to have a safe plan but after hearing this sound the plan easily been forgotten, lots of same fate gamblers have after following this sounds and its totally out of gamblers control.

Yeah there is a chance that "the gamblers" can defeat the house. I'm not saying you alone because it will be a hard task to do. More gamblers = higher chance to defeat the house but what are the odds that you can defeat it? It will be a difficult task to do but it is not impossible I agree.

It's difficult to defeat them, though you can win sometimes but you cannot make them stop their operation because you win all their bankroll.
Man, they are smarter that we think, they control the rules and anytime they can amend it, they would not risk all their bankroll as they want you to gamble longer so their house edge will play on their favor.

If you are truly lucky you win else you would end up losing majority of the times as casinos owners have to make profits then only they will be able to sustain and run their business else they are not for charity who will distribute free money to people . So somebody loss means that money is used to pay other person winning in gambling .

That's all it matter, luck. If lady luck doesn't shine on you it's better to quit early and not risk anymore of your bankroll. Or sometimes, if you are lucky better to quit while you are still ahead of the game. And no matter what you do, somewhere in the casino, someone will loss and that makes it even, or that house takes the edge.

The best way to win against the house is certainly nothing. Yes you may win once but through and through, you will lose eventually. It is the nature of gambling that the house always wins.

What we will experience is just a temporary win, we win sometimes but we will loss more often so enjoy the reality by celebrating everytime you win. No one could really win all the time that's why when you are lucky and winning, you should have the discipline to stop, so you can enjoy what you win.
There's plenty of gambling sites, you can play them all and try your luck, but it will bring the same result as long as the house edge is there.

Were you playing Poker? I just want to clarify what game you are betting and playing because it was not emphasize. Well, there are always wins and lose in betting. The most important thing to do is to feel sometimes about it. If you're feeling lucky then you can bet anyone but if you think you are not then you need to lay low to any bet you will engaged. There are times like that when you are always winning and there are times also that you will always going to lose.

Its not about our emotion, its their business to make profit so I think whether we control our emotion or not they will still create money because you still gamble. If you don’t want the house to earn profit then don’t play on that. Its a sure profit for the house, and I wonder how the government monitor their earnings without issuing any receipt this only mean those are being run with a good system.

More balance, more chance to get wins and need more luck about that, that's gambling, everything needs luck. Often strategies not working and also other tips, in gambling., for me it's hard to get win which's planned, let alone try to against the house until always win.

It's about control. They have control over whateve happens in their games. You don't. It's as simple as that and they house will always want to win in the end and players should already be aware that that's just how things go in gambling.

It's not that they control everything, they control the rules but they don't control every result, otherwise games are rigged..
Like in dice, there is a provably fair games and it can be verified, however the house edge is here so you will lose, that's their advantage over us.

It may seem that what you are telling is obvious, but actually for most people it's not. Almost everyone I talk to in real life, thinks that a gambling site can "show you" any results they want, and even when you try to explain them the provably fair system, they just lough in response, saying that you can't trust the Internet overall. I think if gamblers could understand how the provably fair algorithm works they would abandon sites where it's not implemented, but the majority of them can't comprehend it, and they are still playing on sites where indeed games can be rigged.

New gambling sites often go out of business, they have to compete with many other casinos and spend money on maintenance and advertising. Don't assume it is some easy business that allows you to make easy money.  Since most bitcoin casinos are operating with a very small house edge they can be decimated by a few whales hitting it big.

of course we have to have strong self-confidence and be able to make us feel comfortable in playing even though the opponent we are facing is the host itself, because excessive nervousness can make us lose focus in gambling, although the expected victory is very small against the house at least we can try to overcome the pattern of the game carefully and calmly

The amount of balance you have will not affect the luck that will come. even if you gamble with the large amount. the system will see it and you will be easier to lose than win. I dont know this kind of suggestion or not. because I often experience that

Exactly, but to be fair, I see this practice in a traditional casino, when people hit a bonus, I don't know why they keep on putting their money and increasing their bankroll in a  bonus. Someone argue that the chance of hitting the random jackpot increases if you have huge amount in the current bankroll. But I don't believed that notion though, still based on our luck on that slot machine.

I think winning alone against the house is almost impossible. If you want to do it alone, you need a very huge amount of money and a very huge amount of guts to do it.

I think it will be better if you will win against the house in groups. In that case, more players = higher chance of winning against the house and of course a huge amount of luck to win :D.

But I don't think any of the winning methods will be there for gambling so we need to improve our knowledge for gambling will be the only idea that I have using in all type of gambling so keeping that strategy will be very important but only trusting and strategy will not be worth in most of the time so do yourself get yourself.

How come , more balance will lead to more chances of wining ? This can turn the other way around too as more balance also means more risk and more loss. Just come at gambling with calculated amount of money so that you are prepared for both win and loss.

That's what people who do martingale(and lose with it) always think. "Only if I had more balance I would win definitely!" They never think that they could lose much more either, and when they are given that opportunity(to play with a greater balance) they lose big in most cases. But you are right, a player should be ready to lose all his/her balance. That's the best approach to gambling.

Its going to take something smarter then martingale system to do it but the house doesnt always win, its usually down to random circumstances that the house would actually lose consistently (despite having odds in its favour) then any genius plan.   I guess there is some expert card players who could do it, I dont know these games well enough to ever do it myself.    Breaking the house is a phenomena thats occurred a few times in casino history I think if you include temporary situations where theres not enough float to cover bets because luck has been with the bets that night

It will take time for them to understand that the odds are simply lower and you can never change your fate if you do a martingale in gambling when there is a house edge. For me, it's more risky compared to just flat betting, it's like risking your big money for a little return, though you have a big chance and most of the time you win, but not considering that the chance to loss is a bad idea.

Therefore, I believe it's important to limit your bet, never go all as the result is very devastating if you loss.

I don't agree with this, and you need to add more chance to get lose for sure unless you have luck in any gambling games, you cannot win even with the easy way. We are difficult to win like other people because we don't have luck and we are only getting deeper if we add more balance in our account because the house will win in the end.

Of course they will let you win on small amounts. I only heard a few times where some person really took home the pot. But I doubt that they are the real winners because at the end of the day, those gamblers are addicted so even if they made much money on gambling they will go back again to gamble until they will lost everything.

The perception that house always win is wrong. If it was true, then why still many people are playing gambling. I think gambling is also profitable for the players as it is profitable for the house itself. The thing to note is that both gamblers and casino are increasing day by day. This is only due to the reason that gambling is beneficial for the both.

Making strategies most of the time are useless since the house is always win. This is really true, we admit it or not they always make good profit because its a business. There are some gamblers who are lucky enough to win big prizes and its not going to happen always because in gambling luck is not always present.

Greedy is a trait that we often encounter in gambling. Most gamblers, especially the addicts, will always return to the gambling places regardless of the results they get. Of course there is limit that will stop them from gambling, namely bankruptcy. Whereas the upper limit is not there. People can win today, but they will play again at a later time and so on until they meet the lower limit. That is the other advantage of casinos besides the house edge. Indeed, there are gamblers who are able to benefit, but in general, most of them will fail and the house will always win. It will depend on us how to manage our gambling habits so it won't hurt us in the future.

In some point it is wrong but the players that are too greedy just proved it correct. The house dont win all the times and players win sometimes though some of them losses their profit because of greed they think they can win more

Not some, most of them loses it back to the house because of that greediness, we read and heard a lots of stories about certain incidents where gamblers almost win a lots but instead of quitting they tend to continue thinking that luck will always back them up, Yes there's chances to win if you know how to deal with contentment and if you can quit the moment you already gained decent.

Yes you are right most of them were doing like this to prevent them without loss but many people don't know the trick to back with the profit if this will be worked for most of the people then the amount invested money will be returned to them with good profit

And that is the only reason why a gambler would simply stop (at least in my case.) Of course the house will not always win. There are days that house will be in a negative, but in the long run it can be offset by majority of the days they are in the green.

That's why gamblers should be very smart as well. Once you got a hit then get out as soon as you can. No need to stay long and try to chase more wins. Chances are bad luck will strike on you and might end up losing all your bankroll.

Thats the habits that exist in gamblers, if they can control themselves, know when to go out and stop. of course they can benefit
from gambling right? and make the house lose. gambling is not only about luck but also strategy and control

In this case still the reason why people or gamblers always lose over house is greediness?as in your description its rhe continuously going against the table to win more than what they have already?Because million is not small amount to still bet .in my own experience as a gambler everytime i win I’ll make sure that half of it will come to my pocket meaning reducing the amount of capital every win so in the end atleast i will go home break even not unless i have no luck that moment and losses taking the whole playing time

I don't think there is any strategy that gamblers can use to win against the house because in gambling, its inevitable to lose. There is a high high chance that you can lose all your money into it. The house always win because gamblers tend to become greedy when they are winning consecutive times. They will only stop if they lose all their money. They don't know how to go out with the profit they have in their hands. Greediness kills the gamblers.

Other than becoming greedy house has to win irrespective of what accuse they run the business where they have to make profits, cover all the expenses which they incur and other stuff. It is not so easy for people to win money from the casinos or the gambling site unless luck is purely on your side which can help you win it.

With casino and other slot games house might have got increased winning. With sports betting we cannot say that house always wins. There its like equal chance, because the live betting allows user to make an betting till the end of the game. This will surely let users win if they've done a good study about the team and the players connected with it.

We cannot beat the house, the house is always making money from gamblers and that is the fact. If you wish to beat the house then there is no method for it. If you don't want to lose then better not to play gambling. House makes a house because they know that they can actually make money from it, and that is their business so don't expect to make you lose the house.

Maybe if you have somehow created your casino or make an online site for that, it would be useful, that would be unless you are willing to risk your BTC with that.

I guess the best way to make your chances higher to win in a casino is to apply specific strategies to your gambling methods. The best advise that I could think of is that don’t take it too seriously, the gambling part. You know that it’s going to make you restless and might gamble all the time.

You forgot to mention that the odds/multipliers are constantly changing. Betting on a winning team in the end of the game you have to risk $100 in order to win $1 in the case of positive outcome. And even that is possible only if there is a small chance of a different outcome. From my experience, no one would accept your bet at the point when the outcome is obvious.

That's how good the house play, they won't allow or close a live bets knowing that the game expecting to have a positive outcome, they have a lots
of past experiences knowing how to do business very well, if you got some chance to win against them inside live bets and that's good for you as
it will not as always as you think it can be.

That's true, that's the thing we're trying to overlook the house always wins. Even the house edge is only 1%, it really affects the percentage of our winning because it is no longer 50/50. The house is more favorable of winning because of having more than the half winning percentage. But if you may win sometimes if you are lucky and knows how to control your game.

In the end, the house is always winning because of the house edge no matter how much percentage it has. The longer you play the more you will lose some of your winnings. Gambling is a very complicated game when talking about the profit, everyone is on the profit. You really need a good skill and best of lucks in order to bring home your winnings.

It's not complicated at all, it becomes complicated when players can't control their greed and even they are on the green side already, they don't want to quit and still go. So in the end as you have mentioned, the house edge will take over based on the math and those gambler who should have stop when then are in green, ended up in red and then get mad at themselves.

I don't think so, yeah house could be win but that does not mean that the player cannot profit and win from the house?
if you know the strategy, like when to stop playing when you win, of course you can profit and the house might lose?

You can win and if all people will do the same ( i.e stop after a won )  then i think the house will loose and can go busted in the long run   but the reality is that gambling is purely based on luck and every person has a 1% luck that will strike once in a lifetime.  Thats the reason that most gamblers loss and thats also the reason that a house can win at all times .

I think if you only have a 1% chance to win in gambling, no one will play on that gambling site, every gambling site has a house edge and that has been verified, so is the chance for a player's to win, so I think the chance to win is certainly 50-50 or maybe 60-40 for houses. but you still have a big chance of profit dude

Even if the chance of winning is only one percent, I believe people still gamble at that casino or gambling site because people never think their chances of winning are so low, and they always believe that luck will appear to them, they will be the luckiest and win from gambling. In addition, the house will have a plan to lead them into a trap and think this is a fair game, or the winning rate is not too low, and with such simple and sophisticated things, the house will always win every player, there is no chance of profit here, everything is a trap and too careful calculations

And that's why it would seem that the house always win. It thrives on people's greed and it's easy business for them already right there. Try to play pvp games like poker or gambling games. They have less control over your bets here.

House is made to make the team behind the game win against you by having that fixed % as their edge towards all your bets. There's actually nothing you can set against the house to make them lose except you get that secret seed (or phrase) which would let you know everything about the upcoming rolls or casino bets' results, but that's completely illegal and sort of hacking. The more the house edge, the least your chances are to win over them at their place. There's just one strategy that if you win, keep the winnings and hold on for the next right time to bet and win again, but constant betting at a single place makes you lose more than wins during the long run.

Let's not talk about illegal things in gambling because that will not prosper, we might win but the consequences might be difficult to us.
How can you enjoy your wining if you are not free in spending it because you are afraid that one day you'll be in jail.
The thing is, no one wins against the house, that's why i's true that the house always wins as they have the edge, if we don't understand that, it will make us a big loses.

Definitely they could win as they survive for many years otherwise they'll just burn their business. We just understand that gambling never give us assurance that we can bring our money back nor we win more than of losses we experience. So, we don't think that we can make house into a horrible end but it could be possible to happen with us(gamblers).

Neither house can always win nor gambler can always win. Actually there is nothing which can always win. Sometimes gambler willwin and sometimes house will win that's why it is gambling. Always winning of one party cant be gambling.

If you will interpret that literally then the words " the house always win" is not true, we all know they don't win all the time, they also loss
but in the long run they still win because of the house edge. They actually win most of the time while most gamblers experience the opposite of winning most of the time.

It's the reality that everyone should understand, it's never wise to be unrealistic in gambling as the risk is high.

But in the end, the house will always win and take all the gambler's money. It's happening on everywhere and it still profitable to make a gambling site. And because of that, we see that new gambling sites were launch because they want to make a big profit from gambling business and many of them use the same games, but they give so many offerings. The gambling websites will provide a bonus for every new member, or they offer something else to attract new gamblers to come to their site.

They invest with promotions knowing that after gaining the attentions and peoples/gamblers trust they can take over and take the advantage, the house edge gives them steady profits by keeping more players they will have lots of incoming profits, this how well the gambling business operates, they will do their best to entice players and make sure to have best experienced ever.

Gamblers daily activities will make the business works so fine.

I agree with you but 99% of gamblers from this community is sharing like they do face only losses whereas they are supposed to be having both profits and losses mixed through out their gambling life. I mean at least 50% of gamblers should be into profits if not they do not be neither into profits nor into losses, like they do make profits and losses at same levels and same frequency.

But in reality we are having something different scenarios and this is the reason we are having this discussion of "houses always win". It might be meaning like this is not the actual gambling that we are all assuming so far.

Overall if considered house will always have the edge over the others that is why casinos and gambling sites are being setup so that owner also makes money and not just others . It is our money when we loose it goes to somebody else on their winning .

I don't agree on this one, because most of the casinos are always making profit at the end of the year so technically they always win and some of the gamblers lose their bet. Technically our goal is to make profit, also the house but at the end only the house succeed to achieve its goal. If you gamble your money expect to be lose and don't blame the house for that because its their business and you choose to play with them.

I guess the topic talking about in general means the totality of winnings always in favor the house,just like you can win once or twice a week,but the 5 days of tha week you are losing

But gambling has two side the winner and loser,you are right on that sometimes we beat the house but mostly we are beaten by this

Thats what i mean,in the whole system it is the house who always win and we as gambler will never have continuously winner streak,and thats the reality

House has more probability of win in the long run but they also can be in losses if a single bet made huge win for a player that is gambling.Most of the gambling sites are in profits but not all.

House wins in the long run. The more you play the chances of losing is very high. So there is no strategy to beat the house. But there are times when people are luckier than the house. House does not win all the time.

Here is what I do to reduce loses, I won't play for long on a same website.. and never let my emotions control me while I am betting.

Of course, that's why they are called house edge, so we all need to be responsible so that we won't lose in the end.

Yes, that is a good strategy as well, no need to spend a lot of time playing online. If you have taken a good win then no need to stay and play for so long. You can either move or just exit and play on the next day.

When the outcome is obvious, it's understandable that they close live bet right away. Would you continue accepting bets being in their place? No one would, right? Accepting such bets is a straight way to bankruptcy.

I personally think that it is better to place your bet in the beginning of the game or even before it starts. Thus you have a chance to win with some high multipliers, which becomes impossible when the game is closer to its end. For example, a very strong team can lose to a weak team because something bad happened to them shortly before the game and consequently their mood is bad. And if you place your bet before the game started you can win big, but during the course of the game it becomes obvious to everyone and thus the odds change so that it's impossible to win something big, if anything at all.

Yes, only one party will not win always as if the house always win then no one will come and play the gambling as they would already know that house will win in any case.
The key here is that house will win majority of the games due to the algo which is running behind the games. The players will win too but the wining percentage will be less as compare to the wining percentage of the house.

They do and that's the reason why they are so profitable.
Winning is hard when there is a house edge, when you win, you can only make it temporary but in the long run, you'll still lose.
What I did is just enjoy gambling as I know I have no future when I gambled without an edge, games are just entertaining but not profitable.

Even everyone knows this that house will win majority of the games, yet there is no shortage of gamblers. They keep on trying their luck and the casino take advantage of this. 
Wining is hard to come by, but if it comes then you can be a millionaire within no time.

That's true, let's don't take too serious about gambling because you will just going to get crazy thinking how to lose the house and how to beat it. We must know how to manage our emotions so we will not going to get addicted in gambling. Our emotions is one of the reasons why we can't stop from playing and why we are getting addicted. Just always put in mind that we will never lose the house and when we enter gambling, expect that we can lose in a game, gambling game is not always winning a jackpot, it is also losing your money/bitcoin

Yest, in fact casinos run on their house edge, if they will remain fair, I do not think that they will continue to run their casinos for a single week, therefore for running a casino in a good way and to fulfill and pay all the dues they must keep their house edge but in such a way that the gambler may not eve feel it and they do not lose their confident while playing gambling there.

There has to be a house edge or there would be no casinos left in business, lol.

Maybe someone could create some type of decentralized platform where you could duel another person and have 50/50 odds with no house cut.

I don't think so, some casino offer 0% house edge sometime and still it's hard to win simply because it's gambling and you are going to lose for most of the time even in 0% house edge. That's how gambling works.

You mean PvP, pd has that feature before but they have removed it already for how many years now.

Winning in gambling is always a dream for gamblers and hardly becomes reality. If you want to win do not bet at all, keep your money with you and use it for something more profitable where the chances of winning is greater than the chance to lose. In gambling, you will never have a chance to win against the house whether you literally win or lose. Overtime, the house wins without stress and struggle because that is how the game was designed, mathematically in favor of the house.

I think I agree with this. I don't see any gamblers who came out winning except for those who are already contented with their winnings. Most of the gamblers are getting more greedy as they win and even if they lose. This is why the house always win. They always win because of how the gambler is thinking when they gamble.

I think there is no such standard way on how can you win against the house it is all just by luck and a sense of strategy based on your guts once you are already playing in the game. Although strategies might not work to make you win against the house, at least you might last that long in the game and have that opportunity to play and enjoy yourself. But we must always keep in mind that no matter what happen, a game will always be a game. There is no assurance of winning so we must accept the fact that losing is one of the possibilities we might face. That is why I just keep enjoying playing the variety of games that I love into the  online casino (https://to.crwd.cr/smtm) I am currently into because if ever I might not win, at least I've enjoyed and have fun and that's what matters to me plus the great bonus they offer once you have done your first deposit on it.

House always wins with comparison to the players individual winning. This is common with every gambling house, there might be small difference on the profiting percentage. But every gambling house yields the bigger profit than players through the scripts that are with high house edge winning. Some provide increased winning probability, but not on house edge.

statistically speaking, the house always wins, but if you believe in luck, there's always a chance ...
Gambling regardless of the strategy will never guarantee you victory over the house, but until it is treated as fun it can provide you a lot of entertainment and this is its main advantage

We all believe in luck that's why we are going, with luck, we can increase our winning chance and that house edge is nothing if we are lucky.


That's the truth and everyone should be aware of that, when it comes to taking a journey for profit, we should be fully aware of our chances.
Luck alone would not give consistent win especially in games that has a house edge, we should choose other games that we can have an advantage.

Indeed. There is no such specific way that have been ever made to defeat the house because upon playing, you better know that the house is already set to play with advantage and for you to be able to defeat it, you needed to have enough luck as well as the presence if strategy to be done impromptu because such strategies appear based on observations while you are playing to make your game play last that long so if ever you've been defeated, at least you have enjoyed playing. I got interested into the bonus reward you were talking about for just doing my first deposit because I wanted to experience one.

Of course they always win, and gamblers knows about that. But the thing is, they kept on playing on the long run, in return losing that chance to win and exited with their bankroll intact and some wins here and there. If you treated it as fun then definitely considering your money lost already.

There is not much we can do to make the luck comes to us so we can beat the house. But the luck will come to us if we are in the right time and the right places. Meanwhile, we know the consequences if we are against the house and we could end by losing the money. So it is better for us always to follow the house if we want to make a profit from gambling.

Their is a chance but then it is again the game of probability that out of how many bets you will win it. So luck is major factor and yes at times when you win you still end up losing a big amount because people get so greedy that they play with everything and ends up with nothing in hand.

That's a different side of this arguments, if you will bet with the house or something that you will be allowed to invest with the house bankroll that's the best thing to lessen the risk but the time period is much longer, while when you try your luck taking the risk of playing against the house chances to earned is much lesser as HE always kills your stay.

You have to plan well and always find enjoyment, be careful chasing your luck as it take a long time before to show up.

What do you mean by 'House always wins with comparison to the players individual winning'?

House edge are normal with any kinds gambling and we already knew that playing for a long time to what any kind of gambling games would eventually result in losing. Gambling with fun and discipline is the best technique for me even though it's very hard to do for first timers and those people who already lose a big amount of money.

All I can say is, the house will always win if you never stop playing.

They need to understand their chance of winning, otherwise they will really loss.
No one can beat the house especially if we are playing in a longer period, the longer we play, our chance of winning will slowly decrease.
This is not a skilled base games where we can master and win in the long run, we need to know the difference between the two.

Even treating the game as fun, a gambler will loose when he or she plays on a long term on the game. House will always win which we gamblers know but the gamblers also stand the chance to win if self control attitude is implemented by not gamble for a longtime.

Not certainly. Gambling for longtime could give you a chance of winning over the house. It's all about luck and knowing to yourself when to exit to stop further loss.

That is only one thing that we should use if we don't want to beat the house and we only care about the money. Of course, the chances for us to win from the house is not much because the house will always win.

Nah, I don't have to try my luck because I know that I don't have much luck in the gambling games, so I don't play against the house. Even we need a long time, and it doesn't guarantee that the luck will come to us and I don't want to wait too long while I can lose all the money. So maybe I only use my time to play some game and then leave it before I lose all of the money.

That is a great truth!  Many people did not know when to exit in other to be able to stop further losses.  The house can only win when you are not luck enough as the house are also in business to make profits.

The house do not win in all cases, but in the biggest number of them, so if to look at the whole picture the house always stays in plus and there is nothing to do with that. That's how it should be, that's why gambling industry, especially casinos, is blossoming.

This will continue to happen this way only and also if we also start our own site or casinos we would be doing same as a owner we would like to make profits for ourself and give a little to the participant in the same way casinos and sites does now and in future as well.

There will always be the advantage for the house, they are into this business so odds of making is higher for them. They have to profit with their gamblers so they can continue to operate and next to it is to profit from us. Generous casino's are also there when they are offering some sort of giveaways, promo's, etc. and other stuffs. But if there's no one that's winning on that casino then they are simply cheating the system that's why we have probably fair.

It will as long as there is a house edge.
They will never eliminate that house edge as that makes their business profitable.
Most of the people who are playing are just doing it for fun as they understand without an edge it will never make them profitable.

There are plenty of games in the gambling world, most of them are entertaining but most of them does not give us a good chance to win also.

Based on my knowledge and experience, there's no way you can't beat the house. You should know that once you enter gambling and play it you should accept that you'll lose because it is inevitable. House won't let you win because once they did it they will no have profit because their profit comes only to our loses.

Yes, this is true that house will not lose in the long term but there are few chances when the house will lose too. There is where a gambler can take profit and quit. If you get profit and you still keep on playing with the house, then it is quite a chance that you will lose in the next turn. So its like playing sensibly in order to get some profit out of gambling.

Yes that is the only way to beat the house  . if every gamblers  play that way  ( ex. quit after playing ) i think all the casinos/gambling sites will become busted  and the time will come that all of them will close . while gamblers are enjoying their profits  .  

But in reality that seems impossible to happen because majority of gamblers are greedy  . they cannot control their self once they already start to play  gambling .

There's also some whales who can also take away big amounts if money out from the house, but that's a small percentage most of the time house really take away the bacon out from the gamblers pockets, different scenarios but most of the time it's house who always take advantage.

So basically the house indeed always wins with a system that has been made whether it is fair or not, but as long as there are still people who gamble there with a good level of the winning, then they are gamblers with good expertise and experience, of course, because when you continue playing longer the chance that luck will arrive at your table but with a greater risk.

Well, that's right. There is really no specific way or strategy on how you can totally defeat the house. You do really have to be that observant to think wise on your actions and of course the presence of luck is a must have always so that you can totally beat the house to win the game. That bonus reward in the  online casino (https://to.crwd.cr/smtm) I a currently into can be received once you have done doing your first deposit to enjoy the variety of games it have.

not always losing. sometimes there is time to win
if there has never been winning then no one will return to gambling

They are exaggerating gambling, yes there are times that you literally can't win and it's like luck isn't with you. But don't exaggerate the point that the house won't let anyone win.

If they keep on doing this, who are those gamblers that will come back? and who are those gamblers that will show their stats on how much they have won. There will be time to win and to lose but don't say that the house won't let us win. That's misleading.

Reality wise, those gambling house would not multiply when there's no chances for them to take every avantages, those house who already in the business for much longer stay have all those advantages that they already catered, they are willing to take each gamers satisfactions in order to
build trust and engagement for long term business.

They don't let, it's the system who's at play and it's the one who will dictate the winner.
I agree that not all the time they win because the proper description is the house wins most of the time, that's because of their edge.



There's no need to elaborate this, if the site is reputable and their system is transparent, it will surely give a win to gamblers because their edge is usually at 1% to 5% only depending on the game.

It is a common sentence that usually gamblers use it that House always win, but little bit it is right, And the one other common word you know about it that is Luck,, so in gambling usually we win by our luck. So just play and try to win and i don't thing that all the time house win. I am gambler and learn by my experience of gambling that play it for fun then you win and don't play it for earning wise.   

The house always wins because it is built for business, and so it's a must for a house to generate profits so as to stay alive and support their employees. The only way you can win with the house is to quit early when you're winning, otherwise, you'll lose everything including your capital if you continue to play.

It is fair but the chances is favorable to them. It's why they have provably fair to give the gamblers assurance that chances for them to win is still there.

Every Friday I receive an email from local gambling webpage, offering 10-20 free spins. The rules are simple: make a minimum 10 euro deposit, enter ref code and get 10-20 free spins with a maximum cost of 0.2eur.

It is possible to play just free spins and make an instance withdrawal. Its either you get your 10 euro back or get it with profit.

How does the rule "The house always win" applies here?
 

Like everyone, I will say that no one can win against the house in the long run but because you're expecting something from us, I'd say you should change your seed every now and then, check which one is favorable and do it with small bets and when you find a seed that gives you more rewards over losses, go ahead with it and play as seed is the only veto power a player has.


I don't know best way, but you should stop playing after winning a considerable percentage like 50%, 100% or 200% because then, house starts playing shady games and makes you lose more.

but that doesn't mean many people lose with the house right? You say that a house can win with comparison to an individual player, but we know that there are many players on one site, surely some other players must have different results, it is impossible for houses to win against all players, you still have the chance to win

To win against the house is hard and that means we can only succeed if we play our game well.  In gaming it is our skills that put us in advantage against the house and in betting and gambling it is the luck that put us in advantage and that means the house is much favour than us.

Never mind those buddy. We all know every business setting have it own time of losses and I have seen alot of gamblers on this forum which shared their winning testimony while some also shared their lost testimony but those that make loses are those that dont have the strategy of setting a limit and like saying "A man without strategy is dangerous to himself".

It's always the player who is paying for all the fun, regardless of win to loose ratio because one man's win, is another man's loss.
House have to be at a advantage, it was designed that way. Casino without an edge has no actual point.
This business is based on investments, if a casino has no shareholders and runs for it's own sake, almost all money lost by players have to reinvested, put in to games or machines created to lure people in. Of course the owner has a stomach, he needs to eat too, so reinvestments get gradually smaller and smaller, as appetite grows during the dinner. Same applies to house with investors. Business is business, house always have to balance out and end with profits.  

I don't know much about how the houses winning/profit thing works but I guess if gambler wins huge amounts money the house(owners) still pays him from much of his profits.
While the gamblers are scared of losing their games and  money, the house is also scared of paying huge sums of money to winners . Everything looks easy untill you run a gambling site

Gambling sites has to make sure he can pay the gamblers, it's the lifeblood of the business and not paying will damage their reputation and it's going to be the end of the world for them. They have the math with them and that is the house edge, sure there are lucky gamblers but the house can always put a limit than in case a gamblers win big, it's still under control and they can pay for it.

In the end since they are for long term, the odds still favors them and they will win.

Yes, gambling sites already have funds from different gamblers that they can easily pay few to ones who win. If 100 people play in gambling 80 will surely lose and the site will have enough money from those 80 people that they can pay to the remaining 20 people. That is why i always feel the owing a casino is the best business in the modern times.

Lets keep it simple,generally you have less than one chance to win in 10 bets which means 9 times the house wins so even they are paying huge amount at once they will collect you from 9 times so they can generate money from you.When gambling sites many players to bets they will get profit.

Your quote is good reminder for those gamblers that doesn't limit themselves. But those that make losses, it doesn't mean that they don't have strategy at all. Even the best people that has their very own working strategy, don't win at all times.

Losing is very essential in gambling and all the blame goes to the casino whenever their money is at loss. But realizing these kind of statements that the house won't allow you to win is very misleading.

Gambling sites will always win because of the house edge, but they need to have volume of gamblers to maintain their profitability.
I am seeing that gambling sites are already profitable but they still continue to spend money in advertising to attract more gamblers, they believe that more players will result to business stability as whales in gambling even though they are spending big, they can easily leave for another gambling sites.

But still, if you compare how much profit that the house can get with the winners, it still bigger the profit of the house because they take all profit from all gamblers. And that is why the house always wins because the house can get a bigger profit than the gambler itself. The gamblers scared of losing the money because they feel that it's too hard to get their money back. I don't think that the house is scared to pay the winners because they still get big profit from the other games and not all gamblers can win big money on the site.

and I'm surprised those who say that.
but they participate in promoting gambling sites. this is very funny :D

I think they don't know what they are saying and they don't review what they are posting here. It's very misleading and not informative when you say that the house won't let gamblers win, what will these people think after read those words, they would believe that casino's don't really allow people to win.

Yes, they are promoting a casino too and they say that. I usually read some of those people say the same thing that are against to casino's and what they really do. They probably don't noticed those words that they are making out of these topics.

No, the house not win always, sometimes is just about luck and sometimes the gambler need to know when to stop and when to come back and start play again, but is wrong to say that the house always win.

Gambler need to control their emotion because this is important not only in playing online casino but also in doing trading, the mindset need tobe a positive if want to win like what you said not all the time the house win sometimes the gambler win maybe its luck or some kind of strategy.

The mindset is very important and you need to be realistic.
Thinking you can win or being positive will not bring you anywhere if you have no strategy that would work consistently.

Two things, if you are not consistent in winning then don't pursue your goal.
Next, instead of gambling for profit just do it for fun knowing you don't have the skills to be successful.

Every gambler deserves to be entertainment and our life is precious, we should avoid gambling addiction.

In theory the house always wins 100% as it gets some % of your bet if the Casino is using a specific percentage return.

Anyway i would suggest you to go with small and steady bets, profit will be low but you have a higher chance on getting some profit instead getting yourself into a red streak situation more often.

But because so many gamblers cannot stop, it makes the house will win, and it happen in many gambling places. Only a few gamblers who can stop and although they don't win, they know the time to quit gambling. But so far, I only know that the house will always win because like I said before, the gamblers cannot stop to play especially for addicting people in gambling.

But then aside from winning, controling emotion is also one of the hardest thing to do in gambling. Only few can do it and most are always carried away wether they win or lose. But I agree with you, although it's a game of luck, being positive sometimes helps a little. It's just don't be too much positive if you won, you'll end up continuing to play.

I don't think house always can win, I can say that maximum time house can win and minimum time gambler can win. Ratio is too much but not all.

There is no foolproof method to beat the house.

Remember that casinos are in for profit, so all the games are designed to give the house the advantage; otherwise, no casino would last long.

In terms of betting what you said is true, but here when we calculate the entire winning of the house it'll be high than that of the users winning. This is what mentioned as house always wins, as there is specific winning edge for the house it is assured to get back certain amount as profit.

I think there is no such method, the house always wins, that is always true, however there are many tips that some experts in the game give in their books, such as playing when there are many players playing, playing on weekends or nights, always make sure that there are many users. Some bets can be made based on taking advantage in the game as in roulette betting by colors, or zones, increase the odds of winning.

Yes, they are for the profit and that's what you need to consider if you are trying to beat the house.

There's no need to beat the house, you just have to bet and win with every single amount that you do. Don't aim for something crazy like beating the house, gamble and have fun, if you win - good and if not, decide to continue or not.

That tips would never work long term.
House edge already explain that we will never win, in case we win that's only because of pure luck, but you don't have luck all the time.
It's called luck because it only happen sometimes in your life, the house edge is fixed.

Not all house edge are the same .  some gambling sites have high while some are low .  you just need to know that before you place your bets on them and for sure you can now increase your chances of winning  .  the house does not win at all times because if thats true then there will be no called winners  . no one would play gambling and the gambling industry will collapse  if that happens  .

All of those  shared tips can be used as basis but never be an assurance that you can keep winning from the house, gambling still a luck bases activity where only house can always have the advantage, house edge is there for them to take the edge that's why in the long time of playing you will eventually suffer as they will keep collecting this from your bankroll each time you will place your bets.

But it seems that is speculation winning a game, actually the same as many stories here that are base on luck game. Gambling is purely made by luck, not by pure strategies. But probably yes it will contribute but a small percentage maybe.
I didn't say the reply that I quoted above was not right, each of us has a different perception of gambling strategies so much better practice your own move.

The house in the end has to win else how will they make profits and spend so much on the interiors, space cost, employees cost,free beverages etc. If they do not make profits they will have to shut their casinos and wind up and go back home.

Too greedy if you want to beat the house, they themselves build the system, you won't be able to beat it. you're right don't think about the strategy to beat the house, just play with fun. stop when you feel enough. You can just profit by playing fun, trust me!

That's accurate, no one can beat their system because they have the house edge.
No matter how hard we try, we will never beat them, the only way to beat them is we have a huge bankroll and we do it in limited rolls, we will win provided we are lucky, but every roll they have the edge on that, no matter how small.




It's the correct thing to do, play for fun for games that has a house edge, and take it seriously on skilled based games.

I think so, but what is more detailed is that you cannot "always" win with a house, but you can occasionally win with houses,
and that opportunity is what you can use to gamble, just get out when profits are in your hands?

If you yourself own a casino, would you allow any player to beat you down considering that you control the place? I doubt you will. The house is always in control in any game it has so i agree, it'll be almost impossible to outwit the house. Try to just enjoy the game you're playing instead of looking for ways to beat it.

You can't win on the long term against the house as long as they have that edge. You can have short time winning sprees, but you should cashout as soon as possible if you are not playing for fun. heck.. I recommend ONLY playing for fun!

Unless there is a bug in the system, then you will be able to beat the house. But I bet that there is no need to wait for a long time to see the admin will fix the bug so they can run their website and take a profit again. Playing with fun is the only we can do in the gambling games because with having fun, we don't have to think to beat the house.

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There have been instances of certain games that allowed a win scenario in more then 50% of games, obviously that game was distribute for long in that condition but all the same it can exist sometimes.
Also famously a state lotto was setup in this way that gave a positive return for entrants

It's too much ambition to think if you want to beat the house, just give up that ambition and gamble the way you are.

Win some, lose some that's it!

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When you won you already beat the house  but if you really want to beat the house litterally then you need to prepare alot of capital because a gambling house is known to have alot of capital .  you can try to bet all what you got , if you win , the game is over . the casino is busted but if you loose , well better luck next time    .  to the question that house always win ?  No they dont ,  every gambler do sometimes win     .

Casino always find their games to be known profitable for a players, but the gameplay should be at their biased side. The gambling developer should determine how gambling spontaneously run towards those game experts, and eventually beat them in a long run as they played their favorite betting games with longer span of time. If a gambler never cared for his money, the house usually wins and grabbed every gamblers money during the game when they've lost their game. We can't beat the house, because they knew their games better than us and no matter what happens whether you played in expert strategy; still the house owned the throne.

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There is no fixed method, but always keep in mind that the house always wins, in some way this is something that we can not change, what we can apply is some probabilities and play techniques, in some books we recommend that you should play for short periods of time and do it when there are many people playing, this gives some guarantee that your chances of gain increase, of course they are only advice, but they are accurate, because people who play for a long time, begin to have losses in a row.

Winning for few times doesn't mean that you have beaten the house.

That's different from telling that you have beaten the house. You have won but you haven't beat them.

Can't believe people are still wondering if they can beat the house. No you can't. Games are setup in a way that house wins in the long run. You can try but if they find out that you found some method (card counters for example), you get banned.

Newbies would think that way, I cannot deny that when I was a newbie I always thought of many ways on how to win in dice.
I just realize it later on that even how small the house edge, still it's impossible to beat it.

Luck is the only key to win, some wins big money and they don't return, that explains a real victory.

If you have this feeling that the house always win and the players cannot win it, then you will not be able to enjoy the gambling.

Even though the house has more chances to win but players also win in gambling, so forget about this thought and play gambling with positive and winning mindset.

People just love to use the words that the house always wins, but it's the real thing.
We should understand that they don't they can win but it's only most of the time, gambling is bad if we gamblers has no chance of winning.

Well there was a time when I also thought it was possible to find a way to do it with math. That's how I found the story about those blackjack cardcounters. It was a team effort though and they eventually got kicked out of every casino.

I've accepted that gambling is just for fun and I'm unlikely to get anything huge.

I think it also depends on the method, house is not always the one that tries to win in every game. If we are talking about something like dice for example which has an house edge literally told you before you even gamble than you should know you will be losing money playing that game long enough, it literally tells you that they have a edge over you and its not even a secret.

However, if we are talking about something like poker for example than its you vs another player and house just takes a rake, which means if a great poker player plays vs a bad poker player the most likely possibility is great poker player winning the game and making money, house has no edge over any of them, they just take their rake. So the "house always wins" only applies if you gamble against the house.

You are talking the truth, but don't forget the "luck" it plays a significant part (and obviously how wise you play)

I think that the luck factor is what makes us play even knowing that the house is over us  8)

They think that it's fine and a normal thing to hear someone says that they can beat the house. It's a business that's made for the house to make money not for all the gamblers, some can win and have his own strategy that doesn't violate the casino's house rules. However, such strategies doesn't work for a long time.

But I guess not all casinos are house always won, there's a fair game between gamblers and the house. But I guess some strategies will work against to defeat the house and gain profit on it and I'm sure that was base on your luck. If gamblers did not win against the house perhaps no gamblers will gamble on gambling site now. I think that there is a fair play game in the casino house edge.

It's been an attitude alone but in reality house will keep its business and win against its participants, if someone wins surely more will lose as well, so from that point this statement will continue to prosper the gambling owners, there's some people who claimed that they've got winning methods but the numbers will be just a small percentage from those who doesn't have and willing to lose more inside the house.

Yes, there's provably fair, you can gain some profit but as I've said there's no way for them to beat.
A reality that can't be accepted by some.

On betting numbers house might have won less time than human, but the house could've earned big than the humans earned. This happens, as gambling house have an assured house edge which will be earned on specific time interval. This makes the access for earning of gambling houses higher than human earnings.

Well the simple logic here is that if the house do not get more percentage of winnings, then the casino sites and business cannot survive. The gambling owners will not pay to you from their pocket. They have to get earning from the people money lost in gambling to be able to pay few other people who wins.

The house makes over 95% of all the funds that flow into gambling industry and that is why we should always trade with funds we can afford to lose.  Your chance of winning as a gambler is quite limited and going into it with money you can not afford to lose will put your life in jeopardy.

You are right, all time house cant be a winner if house can be winner all time then no one will take part on any game. And if so how house will run their business. So, gambler will win too.

As it possibly be like that but we can't deny also that mostly in all times the house win over the gamblers. If could go for a percentage rate,  might only be 40%winning than of 60% losing which is much higher chances that we could loss.  But its not all about that,  if we are enjoying in gambling it's gonna be considered also that we are winning by then.

That's very huge knowing their house edge is only less than 10%.
Can you show an information that will become a proof of your claim regarding the 95% ? , I just can't agree with it without proof.

I cannot imagine if the house was losing their money many times and I guess that they cannot run their business for a long time. They are building the gambling website, and they use the script in the games so they can win the game from many gamblers. But that doesn't mean they cannot lose because I believe that sometimes, the house will lose too. But if we compare between the loss and the win percentage, the win percentage still bigger than their losses.