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Have you missed out on OgNasty's auction? Was the highest bid just too much for you? Not to worry, here is a simple solution!

Step 1 - the coin:
Don't own a fancy engraver, or know a mint willing to work with you? Do not worry, you can just buy the coin off Ebay (https://www.ebay.com/itm/2017-FROSTY-SNOWMAN-1-oz-Silver-Round-999-Fine-Sollid-Silver-Bullion-Art-Coin) for around $30.

Step 2 - the address:
Do you want that fancy 1Frosty address that looks so cool? Never fear, Vanitygen (https://github.com/samr7/vanitygen) is the application for you!
What's that? You don't have a good enough computer? Do not worry, you can just pay someone else (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1813624.0) to do it for you! This has the added bonus of no one knowing your private key.

Step 3 - the hologram:
"What about the Hologram?", you ask, "Surely that makes it worth the $500 pricetag?". Think again! You can purchase your very own personal holograms from Aliexpress (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/secure-genuine-custom-hologram-sticker-void-if-removed/1658118267.html) for as low as $1 per unit.

So what am I paying for?
You are bidding for the beautifully cut NastyFans OgNasty hologram. That still makes it a 1-of-1, right?

So this was a knock off ebay coin?????

wow!

Well now... Nice way to scam newbies and make a cool 500 bucks from 29 bucks and an engraver!? ;D

Pretty scammy indeed.... ::)


Look who's selling them... Now that makes it even worse - https://www.ebay.com/usr/bevyone?_trksid=p2047675.l2559


Scamming old ladies, and newbies on Bitcointalk, wow.... Just.... Wow.... ::)

You could go through all this trouble, or you could have saved yourself the trouble and bought the one I made using a $5,000 engraver and a securely generated vanity address with a hologram showing who secured it.  

"This wallet is an engraved Frosty the Snowman Merry Christmas 1oz .999 Silver Round."

Was it not clear that I engraved a vanity address on a Frosty the Showman Round?  Looks pretty obvious from the pictures that the entire thing wasn't engraved...  Perhaps I overestimated your intelligence?

Seriously? You are claiming to have engraved the same exact design as coins on ebay? What the actual fuck? ::)

And save all that money.

Or use a printed QR code/written private key to achieve the same effect. If you actually wanted to load the address - which I somewhat doubt.

That is less secure than split key.

And completely void of any mention of the original creator/mint of the coin (or any mention that there is an original creator/mint), on both the coin and the thread its self.

Then do it.  Nobody forced you to bid on my auction, and you didn't.  This witch hunt of yours is getting so old...  Was Kialara a scammer when he added to a $100 bill and sold it?  Get a life dude.  Enjoy the holidays.

The classic "You didn't transact with me and therefore can't criticize me" argument. Solid.

That aged quickly. I haven't said anything proper in a few months.

Did Kialara try to mislead the people buying it to believe that he made the $100 bill? You're comparing apples and oranges.

That's rather bold. Though, I suppose you can live a rather nice life making $500 each time selling '1-of-1' coins that you failed to disclose you didn't make.

You too, buy yourself something nice. :)

I thought it was clear I engraved a private key on a Frosty the Snowman round.  That's literally what I said.  If you misunderstood, perhaps it is because your lack of knowledge about coins couldn't recognize that the design wasn't engraved, or maybe you don't collect enough to have recognized this round.  In any event, it was not my intention to mislead, and if the winning bidder wasn't clear on what he was bidding on, I'm happy to offer it to another bidder who understood what they were bidding on.  I don't need $500 and certainly wouldn't scam for it.

You clearly lied by omission. Who the fuck knew a snowman round existed? You just admitted to lying to everyone btw, because you have previously claimed to have engraved the design. Your auction was left unclear on purpose, otherwise you should have said "I DID NOT DESIGN THIS", but now you are claiming you did (in Pm's to me) and now here, you are claiming you didn't. So which is it Trump? You can't lie both ways dude. This is literally cracking me up right now. " perhaps it is because your lack of knowledge about coins couldn't recognize that the design wasn't engraved" - so which is it, you engraved it or you didn't?

Edit - You also just abused the trust system (Again). Good one! :D  

Edit2 - https://i.imgur.com/VQuRtkh.png

Hello, I'm here to give some of my thoughts since I'm a bidder on that thread and I'm still newbie here in collectible section.

I don't want to bother anybody here, IMHO, I'm not aware that the silver coin is available to e-bay with cheap price but I think OG didn't intend to sell that coin in high amount since he decided to sell it in an Auction way. The fault can be blamed to my side since I don't do research before I bid into something. ;D

Just my 2 cents.

-Block  8)

I would love to get 1FrostySM if anyone can generate it again, really sad that I missed that auction, wasn't available to bet on that gem. :(

No, no and no. You were misled. ALL of og's coins he claims to have produced so far have been unique until this one. Coin makers, especially need to be held accountable. Don't blame yourself, that's bs. He did intend to sell it at a ridiculous price and I hope the winner does not pay. You should not have had to google the coin to find it was a generic round, therefore, he lied by omission. That's scamming, IMO. 500 bucks for a 20 dollar round with a sticker on it? LMFAO...

Sorry, I missed that part but if BlockEye is not willing to pay that much for the coin then OgNasty please send me an offer I would like to grab that coin.
thanks

Mini I think you are a genius..  OG back to his old tricks again.. for DT1 he really is a scumbag. A $30 coin ha ha ha ha.

leaving a negative on owl?? Wtf is that about

Why don't you share the Xmas feeling and donation it to that elderly woman (who clearly needs it)? ;D.

I'm not the winner of the Auction. If ever I won that. I will not back out on my bid since I bid in free will. Woshib is the winner. PM him and no need to post here that you want to buy it. There's​ a drama here and peasant like us don't have any room for this situation. Gonna watch this.  :o

OG come on...

owl cats is more than trustworthy on the forum and you instantly resorted to leaving a neg... talk things over.

His points are quite valid and instead of leaving a neg you should have explained it.

Both of you are trustworthy and it would be a shame if that neg remained on owls.

Come on guys, this is collectibles, not a place where people just vent their rage and leave negs. Take it down a notch.

After taunting me through unsolicited PMs and leaving me negative feedback, he then blocked me. He didn’t want to understand anything, he just saw an opportunity and wanted to start trouble. Mission accomplished?

After pointing this thread out to the buyer, it was stated that they understood what they were bidding on and still want the coin, paying for it after being told they didn’t have to. Obviously they didn’t feel misled and I’ve received multiple messages from others that are still happy to buy also. Next time I auction a themed coin, I’ll make sure to include the link to purchase the coin from jmbullion without the hologram/engraving for those who don’t recognize popular themed rounds.

Merry Christmas!

I am happy with this outcome, thanks.

Same here.

Still think you should revisit the negative trust, but I guess you and owlcats should chat that out.

Not exactly, I was tired and didn't want to argue with you as you don't seem to get it - by doing things like this, you are hurting the community as a whole - whether we are makers, resellers, whatever - You were caught deleting valid bids by REAL people who are newbies. What kind of message does that send to new people? You certainly aren't doing yourself or others any favors dealing with people like that. Sure, I get it, you think people are all alts trying to fuck with you, but guess what, nobody I know has any alts to "fuck with you" as always claim. I didn't see an opportunity to "start trouble", I was honestly pissed off that you of all people would behave like this. I understand TMAN is apparently occupying a suite in your head someplace, but FFS, arguing with you is like dealing with a brick, THAT's why I blocked you.

Anyhow, I'll remove the trust rating if you will now that I am satisfied with your disclaimer above - My other point was that almost NOONE even knew it was a purchased round. You have made your own coins so long, who would just assume it wasn't made by you, and seriously, how many people would be familiar with that particular round? I sure wasn't, I think someone found it by accident to be honest.   Anyhow, again, let's move on. I have never held anything against you, but I have found it quite sad watching your emotional state seemingly unravel lately. Merry christmas as well.

Edit - Never mind, since you won't remove the neg, back it goes, too bad you are too thick headed to even deal with.... Idiot... :P

I don't understand how you don't understand. He did engrave the round, he engraved it with the public and private key.

 This wallet is an engraved Frosty the Snowman Merry Christmas 1oz .999 Silver Round. 

He literally gave the model/make of the round, why should he have to say I did not design this? Because you cannot recognize the name of mass produced coin? If he did it on a coin that you knew you would have no qualms correct?

'Frosty the Snowman Merry Christmas' isn't a make or model, it's a description. When all of OgNasty's coins are sold with their descriptions (other than the NastyFans coins and Binary rounds) it is very easy to assume that this is another coin with a similar naming style.
If he said 'This is a Jmbullion round' or something like that - like he has agreed to do in the future - then your argument would be valid.

Incorrect. Don't make silly assumptions.

I think OgNasty should have written a full disclosure and should do so in the future. I agree with the reached solution (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2593986.msg26432824#msg26432824).

The best thing to do now is for both him and owlcatz to remove the feedback left on each other's profile.

I agree the negative OgNasty left on your profile (which represents "this user is a scammer", or at least "this user is shady/untrustworthy", not "I don't agree with him") is undeserved. I even added a counter feedback.

But to be completely fair it seems OgNasty hasn't been online since you removed your negative and re-added it.
So what about you remove it again and give him some time to come back online and realize that happened? When/if he removes it then of course I'll remove my counter too as it is only that.

Thank you - and yeah, fair enough, I did not check his online/profile status.   

OG - I will remove the neg if you agree to remove mine. Deal? No PM's, we talk right here, ok?

Thanks again.

This is the last communication I received from owlcatz.  I'm not going to play these games where people attack me in private and leave negative feedback, then when they realize they're in the wrong, they act like the victim in public while trying to paint me as unreasonable.  It's getting really old. 

owlcatz, I was hoping for at the very least a public apology.  While your negative feedback against me has been proven untrue by the actual auction participants, my negative feedback against you very much remains true without a doubt.  You are in the wrong here, not me.  I offered the bidder a refund out of good faith as a way to make up for any perceived misleading and they didn't want it.  In fact, other users messaged me saying they'd buy it if the winning bidder backed out, further solidifying my position.  Maybe if you can admit what you did wrong and apologize, we could move forward.  Your offer of removing your trust abuse is more for you than me and isn't any sort of resolution for your attempt at damaging my reputation.

You posting one snippet of a private PM here and playing the victim is pretty funny, you are always right, everyone else is always wrong, blah blah.

Listen, I'm really not going to post our private PM exchange here nor keep arguing.

Can we remove the trust and move on or not, it's really up to you.

thanks!

Just a reminder of how much trust abuse OG levels out.. sickening that he is even on DT any more.. especially after he had to restructure loans for his fan club a few years ago.. as OG likes to use USD people should be aware he stiffed lenders out of 50+ btc..  $750k due to his bad business decisions

I welcome you, aTriz and EcuaMobi to the list of the excluded people. :D

Hahaha, too funny, but not surprising. I guess it's "Fake News" to him... I don't even care to be honest. Anyone that shady who tries to 'Ruin" others accounts because he has extreme mental issues is not to be trusted or even dealt with, so ... Fuck that guy as the old saying goes. :P

It's a badge to be worn with pride... excluded from the trust list of someone who is a prized prick.. ah well

Agreed.  Just don't forget who tried to ruin what account.  You aren't the victim, you are the attacker, and are very clearly in the wrong here.  


EDIT:  Taking this a step further to show you obviously attacked with ulterior motives...  You left dArkjON positive trust and the community had nice things to say when he engraved one of a similar style round (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1638306.msg17454099#msg17454099) without naming his source.

Lol you two must be a married couple.

Fucking serious mate? I spent 20-30 mins on my post I made to make as less harsh as possible and give you some room to apologise and make amends.

Now I'm ~ ???. Great.

I'm the attacker also?


Does this look like an attacking comment? Look at the words - 'should'. Those are the least powerful words I could have used for that sentence.

I'm not going to go through the other comment cause it already pretty obvious that it's a pretty passive comment and slighty suggesting you to make a change.

Have a Merry Christmas.

As much as I appreciate you trying to insert yourself into this for some reason to create more drama...  Before this comment, I have said nothing directed at you in any way, ever.

You don't need to say anything, I think it's pretty obvious that anyone who makes any comment telling you to change anything will get an exclusion or a neg. Actions speak louder than words and the negs and exclusions you've made speak for themselves.

Please learn to be less agressive, it's said to see someone who I used to think was trusted do shit like this.

I think maybe you need to pay better attention, because what you see as obvious is factually untrue as demonstrated by this very thread.  That says a lot about your ability to clearly evaluate situations and act impartially.

This thread is no longer about the Christmas Wallet, but instead about how fast you've left owlcats a neg and excluded another 3 more people.

It's like you don't even evaluate the situation and just make a neg for the fun for it. As a dt member I would expect you to have a much clearer head and not neg anyone who says a word of bad about you.

Ironic saying I cant evaluate a situation when all of your exclusions are due to personal drama.

TMAN - No need to say anything
Lauda- ??? Probably excluded when she said something bad about you
isoneguy - Had some drama with you.
aTriz - The one post I made in this thread.
EcuaMobi - Counters your negs.
owlcatz - This thread.
Zepher - No idea
Lutpin - Drama with betcoin
Hhampuz- WTF? Why ~ ? Just because he's a buddy of tman?

Why are you excluding everyone who makes a bad comment about you? And why exclude hhampuz? Just because he's a friend of someone you hate?

Clear your head.

Then it should be moved to the appropriate section.  I have not excluded anyone as a result of this thread.



The only truth in your statement is that I'm a "dt member" and EVERYTHING else is a lie (EDIT: oops, the EcuaMobi one has some truth to it).  This is what I mean about being impartial.  You just make snap judgements about what you see with no background or factual evidence whatsoever.  

Nobody wants to see more drama here.  We are all very tired of it.  I did nothing wrong and the buyer is satisfied.  No harm was done.  No lies were told.  Other engravers that owlcatz has left positive feedback for have sold the same style of coin without giving their source and nobody had any issues (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1638306.msg17454099#msg17454099).  Move on.  

Agreed. Sorry for spamming this thread with off-topic responses.


Ok og, whatever you say.

Have a Merry Christmas.

Don't you speak up about anything, else you'll get insults and *implied threats*[1] like this one:

https://i.imgur.com/pcYoCol.png
Inferiority complexes here and there. :)

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I miss our Owl and Cat interactions though. It was quite fun, occasionally. Althought, I still wonder how you managed to combine Owl and Cat DNA. :D

Stop lying!! >:(

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[1] Waits for "everything is a lie". ;D

Maybe we should send OG some tampons for xmas to mop up all the vag blood he is bleeding recently

When people wonder why coin makers keep leaving this community, look no further than to users like TMAN and Lauda, who create nothing of value and are leeches to this community who can only profit from the work of others with actual skills and innovative talents.

Would like to say that in my interactions with og I have found him to be very professional towards me and I am very happy with the coins I purchased.  This is just my first year here but, I have found most on this board to be really great to interact with.

Thanks all and happy holidays :)

Owlcatz and Tranny Man have a Merry Christmas and hope you never trade here again with all the false accusations and constant sex noises at night when I told you both to keep the noise down. Owlcatz finally got his. It's about damn time and the community has voted you off this island.

Collectors are leeches now?? Why is that OG??

This is absolutely untrue and out of line and you know it. Stop being such a cunt.

Lets try keep the Christmas period a bit civil. After-all, it is Christmas.  :-\

Merry Christmas to everyone out there and lets look forward to a bright 2018.

Thanks for the neg OG

See the bold above. Talk about a fucking lie!  What an untrustworthy fool. Why can you never admit you are wrong? Malignant narcissm, eh? LIAR.... :D

Thanks for the kind words dolphriends. Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night!

Usually,not admitting a mistake is a Girl's thing*.. Btw,nice choice of words there,owlcatz.
*Sorry,Lauda. Deepest apologies.

Watch out, you might get excluded or neg. rated for agreeing with owl. Inferiority complexes tend to be common with the type. You should take a look at some past civil lawsuits *coughs*. ::)

This fucking thread needs to be locked ......  We don't need this here in the collectables section...

It sickens me to see this reappearing over and over again..

Take this childish bullshit to some other section. 

And grow the fuck up, all of you¡!!!!!!!

I think I'm more fortunate without the likes of it. Had just got a glimpse of TMAN's case,had a migraine after that. So,no thanks.
Inferiority complexes,ooh boy,you expect dumbasses to have that,since when did Og come to the picture?
I don't think OgN would want to agree with that.I have been on this forum only for like 2-3 days,and Im already sickened,have to agree with you though.

Yeah, I must say that this has strayed from it's original purpose. This is turned to something more suited for the Reputation section.

Merry Christmas.